Robert Spencer’s Talk at the Wednesday Morning Club


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By the early 700s the Persian and Byzantine empires had exhausted themselves fighting each other and, as each was subsequently defeated by a united Arab army, a political structure was required as a unifying and stabilizing force to fill the vacuum. This was the genesis of the theo-political supremacist ideology with an unrelenting hostility towards non-believers known as Islam, which would help the Muslim empire expand and grow ever stronger. The religious aspect of it all, which appealed to the superstitious, the illiterate and those who pinned their hopes on paradise beyond the grave, was grafted on much later and to great effect.

Only 125 to 200 years after his supposed death, noted Spencer, did the first biography of Muhammed appear and then almost miraculously an abundance of records — about someone little known in the world — appear detailing his every thought, word and deed with excruciating minutia and with his behavior served up as a supreme example of conduct to be admired and imitated.

It has been said that while there may be moderate Muslims there is no such thing as moderate Islam. Spencer made the case that the so-called “extremist” voice of Islam is its true voice and that Islamic terrorists are merely executing the commands contained in the Quran, which is their ultimate justification for every move they make and every violent act they commit. No wonder then that they become apoplectic when Spencer’s research seriously questions the actual existence of the very person whose life and actions they seek to emulate. Not even Islamic terrorists like to think they’ve been wasting their time.

In life there are really only two ways to be fooled. Either you believe things that are not true or you refuse to believe things that are true. Robert Spencer’s new book gives the public some of the tools to avoid the former. With any luck, it will go far in preventing people from falling in the latter category as well.

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  • Schlomotion

    "[Robert Spencer] now finds it necessary to live in a secure and undisclosed location."

    Like Osama bin Laden? I'm sure the forces of good will find him eventually.

  • john in cheshire

    If all muslims converted to Christianity, there would be more love in the world.

    • Kufar Dawg

      If they converted to practically anything besides Islam there would be a lot less murder
      and persecution in the world.

  • marios

    G-d bless Robert Spencer, David Horovitz and other who sacrifice their life to inform us about horrible danger of Islam. Islam is incompatable with western civilization. "Schlomotion"s are fifth column in our country and they have to be deported to where they came from. All of those Muslims are part of stealth Jihad against us, against US. What Muslims brought to the world for 1400 years except death of hundred millions? Nothing. They are curse for all living human being. They are curse for themselves as well. All Muslims countries are still living in 7 century. Even enormous Oil money can not make them human being. Where is Islam, there is horrible poverty, illiteracy, murder, … Only to consider " Honor" killing,,,, Fathers or their cousins rape their own daughters and sisters, stone them down, behead them… Muslim immigration must be stopped. Let them do what they use to do in their own countries.

  • wctaqiyya

    I'm all for historical accuracy. However, I'm not convinced that proving whether Muhammad existed or wrote the Koran advances the ball much. True believers will never change their minds and critics of Islam already have plenty of ammunition. Then there's me, who thinks the authorship of the Koran is completely beside the point. I don't care who wrote it because the meaning of it's content is what matters. That is what attracts it's adherents and what justifies their behavior. If Mickey Mouse wrote the Koran, it would still be a vile collection of hateful intolerance and bloody minded perversions. The Koran, it seems to me, is the accurately recorded reflection of the nature of the people who carried it's wisdom with them for generations as memorized truths. Wandering the desert wastes for centuries isn't easy and a ruthless, kill or be killed, ethos was probably firmly embedded over time. Or something. Not that it has ever been difficult to conjure up wickedness in the hearts of men. So, whether one man or several hundred constructed the Koran, establishing those facts does not change it's contents and does nothing to mollify it's message.

    • Kufar Dawg

      The efforts of David Wood and Robert Spencer definitely undermine the dogma of islam. If no one does so, then the tenets and theology of islam go unopposed, which I imagine is what the islamofascist leaders of the world would much rather see and take steps to insure.

      • wctaqiyya

        They (Spencer and Wood, etc.) speak to the actions and expressed desires and motivations of Muslims. It is those actions and the expressed desires and motivations of living Muslims that undermines Islam. Spencer merely reports the facts. Which is nice. My point is simple and valid, the Koran speaks for itself and reveals Islam as the primitive, barbaric and nearly completely intolerant abomination it is. Who wrote the Koran is not pertinent. I like the idea that Micky Mouse wrote it. At the time, he was very angry because he wasn't cast as the leading man in Snow White. He remains bitter about women, pretty things like music and art and hostile to anyone else's ideas. Till this very day, he is one very angry mouse.

  • ahmadnb

    Nice try…but it won't work. So sad…

  • Sarah

    What makes you think it’s just Islamists who would never like to hear from Mr Spencer again? Being a Muslim I would say it’s all Muslims who would profoundly dislike him. And with good reason. He is the most bigoted person I have ever come across and fails to debate actual credible Muslim scholars. Only debate that has come close however is one with the Imam Moustafa Zayed. That is about it. The fact that Spencer dare not come to the UK is telling. I think he knows he will be banned immediately.

    • wctaqiyya

      Sarah my dear, Islamists and Muslims are one and the same. I like your idea that Spencer should debate 'credible' Muslim scholars. Who do you recommend for that? I know, how about the chief cleric in Saudi Arabia or the Mullah in charge of Iran? I'm sure their 'credibility' is unimpeachable. But I wonder, will they be as anxious as you to set up a debate with an unbeliever? You say you are a Muslim, yet you are ignorant of the fact that Islam forbids religious discussion or debate with infidels. Silly girl, you again destroy your entire premise when you make the point that Spencer's right to debate would be suppressed in the UK. Have you any idea how far Spencer's rights to free speech might be honored in Saudi Arabia or Iran? And you have the unmitigated gall to speak about bigotry, as if you had a clue.