More on the Slaughtered Convert to Christianity

Raymond Ibrahim is a Shillman Fellow at the David Horowitz Freedom Center, a Judith Friedman Rosen Writing Fellow at the Middle East Forum and a CBN News contributor. He is the author of Crucified Again: Exposing Islam’s New War on Christians (2013) and The Al Qaeda Reader (2007). 


I just received an email from the editor of a large website, who posted my story from yesterday about the slaughtered. He writes:

The story generated a huge number of commentaries from readers, some of them originating from Muslim Countries. They harshly dispute and deny the veracity of the facts you mention in your paper. Some argue that this abomination did not take place in Tunisia—and I do believe so—but somewhere in Iraq, that the young man is not a Christian but a Shiite, that he was not slaughtered for apostasy but for being a spy of the Americans, and so on… It’s true that the facts are not properly documented : we don’t know even the date of this event, the place, the name of this unfortunate young man… Do you have any additional details and data to help answering ? Many thanks for your kind and urgent attention.

I responded with a quick list of facts, which I repost here, enlarged and augmented, for anyone else interested:

• Fact 1: The Egyptian TV host, who recently aired this video—which went viral on the Arabic blogosphere on Sunday, when I wrote my report—said this occurred in Tunisia. Yes, others have subsequently said that this was in Iraq, others in Syria; but, from what people have sent me, the only “evidence” is the same video—but with a title that indicates Iraq or Syria. Personally, I am inclined to believe a formal Arabic current events program devoted to the topic than an anonymous Internet posting with no further details. Either way, the issue is less which country, and more why the man was slaughtered. Read on.

• Fact 2: The Muslim narrator who speaks while the man is being slaughtered specifically names and continually condemns “apostasy”—the crime of leaving Islam—and even calls the executed man an apostate, i.e., the man is being slaughtered for apostasy, a capital offence in Islam. If the world is not surprised that the actual “government” of a Muslim nation, Iran, is preparing to execute a man simply for converting to Christianity, are we supposed to be surprised when roaming bands of jihadis take it upon themselves to execute apostates to Christianity in their midst?

• Fact 3: The Muslim narrator specifically names and condemns al-mushrikin, and calls the executed man amushrik—i.e., a “polytheist”; in fact, he calls him a mushrik murtadd, an “apostate to polytheism”: this is the standard appellation for Christians, who are regularly called polytheists for “associating” Jesus with God. Yes, there are other religions deemed polytheistic in Islam, such as Hinduism, but one rarely if ever hears of Muslims in the Middle East converting to, and dying for, Hinduism, whereas conversion to Christianity—with all the attendant consequences—is a regular occurrence. Moreover, the overwhelming majority of apostasy cases, from one end of the Muslim world to the other, cases of attacks, imprisonments, etc., deal with Muslim converts to Christianity (see my monthly Muslim Persecution of Christians reports for an idea).

• Fact 4: My contacts in the Middle East, many well-connected with the doings of the region, regularly see and hear of such things, and are confident that he was beheaded for converting to Christianity. The reader is free to hold the opinions of these sources as biased or subjective; but if so, why hold the protests of Muslim apologists, equally biased and subjective, as more authoritative, especially in light of history, doctrine, and ongoing current events, which support the former opinion?

• Fact 5: Muslim apologists always deny anything and everything that makes Islam look bad and will, naturally, try to put the best spin on this video—turning the victim into the aggressor, portraying him as a “traitor,” a “spy,” etc.—just like the Iranian regime, after unequivocally stating that Pastor Nadarkhani is to be executed for converting to Christianity, began backtracking by saying he is to be executed for being a “Zionist spy,” an “extortionist,” etc.

At day’s end—and here is the most indisputable fact all apologists and detractors need contend with—we are left with a man having his head sliced off while his murderers scream Islamic slogans and accuse him of apostasy.

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  • Nadia

    Muslims are trained to cover up, lie and slander for the purpose of making Islam look good. They learned to fool the west by saying that they are really beheading apostates because they have committed treason etc. What a shame!!
    the sad part is the so called "moderate" Muslims are accepting the lie that he was beheaded for other fabricated reasons and look the other way. That is the reason they will never ever have freedom and democracy and will continue living in constant misery, conflict and confrontation.

    • SKIP

      "Muslims are trained to cover up, lie and slander for the purpose of making Islam look good"

      So is our own damned government lying to make islam look good, same way it does relative to the national conduct of blacks.

      • Diann

        apples and oranges, Skip – simply not comparable….

      • Pale Horse

        Er…..yup that would be the true and honest eval Go English Defense League……

      • RiverFred

        You are correct, our government is practicing "Al-Taqiyya," the act of deception and lying as permitted in Shari'a law.

        • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

          Here's a great source that explains it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfPbz9mQ5fw

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Too bad you haven't learned to do that.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Like what? That people who lived and listened to Jesus don't have a right to say what they saw and heard because you are a hate filled bigot?

      • RoguePatriot6

        Black isn't synomous with "thug".

    • Valo

      I'm having a hard time seeing how either one of the reasons would make a beheading "look good."

      What sane person would say – "Ohhhhh – it's for TREASON, not apostasy…. well, that's ok then." So, as far as "moderate" Muslims go, pfffffft –

  • Sage on the Stage

    ,,,,and to think that in American schools, our children are being taught the talking points of Al-Qaeda, in the multiculturalist quest to portray all cultures as equal. An example, jihad is defined as a "struggle against oppression,"…to achieve "human dignity and self-worth???" This video needs to be shown in American schools.

  • Gene W 1938

    Fact 6 for the article: A person murdered for becoming a Christian immediately is in heaven which is infinitely better for eternity than living under satanic doctrine to spend eternity with Allah. Unless authority exceeding God's is proven for any actions contrary to the Bible it would be wise to eliminate that action.

    To refute those who expound anti Biblical views, http://jc.does-it.net should be an icon on every electronic device [especially student's] to provide the one page proof that God authored the Bible.

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

      Maybe a link to Christian websites would educate you on what Christianity really is.

      • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

        Because you are a hate filled bigot?

        The truth changed Pilot's life and he worked to found the Coptic Egyptian church when he was appointed there as Governor. He's a patron saint of that church to this day.

        You are the liar here.

        • Ricky Michael

          But it has happened to them according to the true proverb: “A dog returns to his own vomit,” and, “a sow, having washed, to her wallowing in the mire.”
          2 Peter 2:21-22

          • Ricky Michael

            I wasn't there, I can only read God's word about it. I assume that it was done the same way that it was done in Egypt during the ten plauges.

            I don't have to have anyone else's say so that it happened. That's something an atheist requires.

            Here is something that applies to you situation in life. It is so very true.

            Therefore I speak to them in parables, because seeing they do not see, and hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand. Matthew 13:12-14

          • Jesusinator

            So he speaks in parables to purposely disillusion people so they will go to hell? <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

          • Ricky Michael

            Only to the ones who refuse to open their minds to see what is being taught. You can't even get or understand the reason for the parables, much less seeing the message being taught by them. I can see it as plain as the nose on my face.

            You could see it too, if you wished to, but alas.

          • Jesusinator

            How can you base your teachings on love and peace when your history is filled with blood of millions? You can't deny the fact that if christianity had not slaughtered it's way to the top eliminating millions of people that it would not even be around today. <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

          • Ricky Michael

            The "Real" christians slaughtered no one. The Apostates who do not practice the commands of Christ and his Apostles are responsible for the deaths of millions. Your vendetta should be against those people who practice lawlessness and will be rejected by Christ. Bible Truth practicing Christians harm no one and have never done so.

            You know what I am saying is the truth. Your game is to stir up the Babes in Christ who are not as seasoned as they should be. Actually, each time you post this type of thing, it makes you look so silly.

            You have so much potential to help others, yet you waste it on this foolish pursuit.

          • Jesusinator

            How can you say they were not real christians? You are not getting my point. Had they not went out and slaughtered their way to the top you would not be a chirstian today. Christians owe their relgion to the people who killed for christianity. You converted or were slaughtered. Without them you environment would have raised you in a different religion <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

          • Ricky Michael

            Jesus said…………..Matt 5:21-22
            21 “You have heard that it was said to those of old, ‘You shall not murder,[a] and whoever murders will be in danger of the judgment.’ 22 But I say to you that whoever is angry with his brother without a cause[b] shall be in danger of the judgment. And whoever says to his brother, ‘Raca!’ shall be in danger of the council. But whoever says, ‘You fool!’ shall be in danger of hell fire.

            Real Christians obey these words. We don't kill people.

          • Ricky Michael

            The spirit never dies, only the body. This world is for learning. We learn how to treat each other kindly. Your time here is relatively short, why not spend it to build people up instead of tearing them down.

            You are in a war (a war with God), that you cannot win. Time to assess your life. Have you done everything you can to help others, or are you all about yourself? You might get asked this same question later.

          • Ricky Michael

            Are you helping these people who call themselves "Christians" or just attacking their belief system? When you inspire wrath out of someone because you showed hypocracy has it been done to encourage them to do better? Or just make them mad?

            No one is perfect. We all have so much to learn, even atheists.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            I found your attacks are hate filled and outside the scope of facts or reality.

          • Ricky Michael

            Do you question the Hindu, buddists, etc? Apparently, there are some religions that you never question. Again, what purpose does it serve? Only to tear down and never to build up.

          • Ricky Michael

            You can find Muslins on Pakistantoday.

          • Ricky Michael

            Excuse me sir, but I have read your posts over there and you don't say the same type of things about their God, Prophet, books, etc that you do with the Christian Faith. It appears to be quite a double standard out of you in that regard.

          • Ricky Michael

            Yeah, I read that. There was no Koran comments or Mohomed ones either.

            I am waiting for that. Mr. Edwards, are you growing feathers now?

          • Jesusinator

            Maybe you should go back and read some of things I said <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You think you can train him to swallow your hate?

          • Ricky Michael

            It seems that your interest lies with the Christian faith, primarily. But an Atheist believe in no god, including Ahla. Additionally, Christians will not whack your head off like they will. That has to be a concern.

          • Ricky Michael

            "There are none so blind as those who will not see."
            John Heywood
            1546

          • Ricky Michael

            As for my conversion, it was the classic case of ask and you shall receive. I prayed to him that I learn the truth, which religion to follow. Three different times I was sent someone. The first two times, I refused to listen. The third time, it took.

            I married his third messenger to me. I was looking for the truth. Too bad you will not let yourself do it. I have peace. Do you? Tonight if you die, what will you do? My soul is prepared. I fear not. Answer to yourself, do you fear death? A truthful answer from you can only be, yes.

          • Mik

            Hey Chui

            You would question my continued belief, seeing all the death and violence in the world. I would question your continued belief in the goodness of men and women. Yup, three or four centuries ago there were some brutal people out in the world in the name of their god. Less than a century ago there were ten or twenty or a hundred times more people out in the world slaughter people in the name of their utopian fantasies. You want a Jesuit or a Maoist as your next door neighbor?

          • Jesusinator

            Niether <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            I thougth so. What cleric would you chose?

          • Ricky Michael

            Moving here because I can't read the skinny columns.

            I read your posts over there, they looked fairly "softball" to me. No way were they even close to what you say to Christians.

            You, being the High Priest of Atheism and all, should at least treat all religions equally. Let's see a little consistancy with those comments. Everyone needs to be abused equally you know.

        • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

          Yes, but he turned his back on it.
          And he has that choice unlike muslims that go apostate.

  • Endyr

    Muslims are commanded to lie to infidels. So goes a new twist on an old political faux riddle : How can you tell when a muslim is lying? His lips are moving……

  • StephenD

    I was going to post the You Tube video of this on Facebook but thought better of it last night. Instead, I spoke about it and challenged anyone to tell me of all the "Moderate Muslims" who have they heard condemning this atrocity. Naturally, the silence has been deafening. I'd now like to have this put to our President and State Department, who go out of their way to tell us how glorious and wonderful Islam is and the Pious Jihadists are in a personal struggle for inner growth, blah, blah, blah….What have they to say about this? Again, the silence is deafening.

  • Steve

    Unfortunately, it will take military might to eradicate the Muslim drive to achieve world dominance both outside the US and within. The Trojan Horse is well established within the halls of power of the US government and other institutions. And the remaining Powers That Be do not have the political will to do anything instructive. In short, we are screwed.

  • The Pale Horse

    Our official response from our government and from you and I; OH THAT'S HORRIBLE. And as long as that is the extent of our responses, they will keep cutting people's heads off. Here is the plain and simple truth. All the evil of this earth understand is brute force and kill or be killed. Until we start killing these people, they will continue to come for our heads inch by inch, election by election. Yes, I am for killing them. Any clarification needed?

  • Rodney

    The fellow that this mob murdered is, at this very moment, in the presence of the Living God and Jesus Christ His Son with myriads of Angels. Rejoicing at the fact that he has been rescued from the evil satanic religion called Islam. My prayer for the murderer of this innocent Christian is that he will experience hell in his life before he surrenders his life to the true God and can share his faith with the people who may well end up murdering him as well. Wake up Muslims you are servants of the devil. The Christian God is the God of love, not death and destruction.

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

      So, you want to rip on Christians for ancient Jewish history?
      Sounds like a hate filled bigot to me.

      • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

        No the folks here are to discuss how islam couldn't tolerate one single Christian convert who just wanted to live in peace.

        You of course, want to derail attention from the evil of islam.

        • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

          So, how many of your comments here actually discussed the evil of islam that had this guy beheaded?

          • reader

            Good question. He would not answer. The count is zero. He either fails to appreciate the fact that atheist regimes slaughtered many multiple times more people in just one century.

        • kasandra

          Yeah, I've noticed a lot of films on youtube of former Hindus, Christians, Jews, Bhuddists, Zoroastrians, and animists being beheaded by Hindus, Christians, Jews, Bhuddists, Zoroastrians, and animists for leaving their religions. What color is the sky in your world?

  • The Pale Horse

    Whether moderate, right wing, left wing, radical or friendly, ……. All Moose lims are brain washed by a false religion and, sick ideology, and I don't want even one of them near me.

  • Pale Horse

    Check out English Defense League

  • Demetrius M

    The accent in my opinion is of a North African whether it's Libyan, Tunisian or Egyptian, I am not sure.
    As for Christians being polytheist, my language instructor being an ex-muslim himself, told me that muslims regarded Jesus as a highly thought of Prophet of God, and equal to Mohammed. This was back in 1999.

    So the question is, why can this religion not be consistent? Perhaps because a high percentage of it's followers are illiterate and have not read it's contents for themselves. And of course there are the two versions of the quran, plus the two other components no one discusses, the sira and hadith.

    A large amount of the sira's contents are in relation to treatment toward the kafirs and even in the quran,
    8:12 – …I will send terror into the kafir's hearts, cut off their heads and even the tips of their fingers.
    There is so much there to learn that this is not a religion if people are willing to learn it.

  • kafirman

    This is exactly the sort of video that can enable Muslims to see the evil of Mohammad. We need political leaders to take up this case and rhetorically ask the Islamic world, "Is this Islam?" We need political leaders who are both knowledgeable enough and courageous enough to assert that indeed — despite the cries of the milquetoasty Islamic apologists — this IS Islam. Islam is defined by Mohammad, not by milquetoasty Islamic taqqiyya apologists. Keep up the good work Raymond!

    • Pale Horse

      No you're nuts. We don't need our inept "political leaders" to aske the Moose-lims anything.

      We don't need any further debate and discourse with the Moose-lims, whether they are so called moderate or radical. I want turf free of Moose-lims. ZERO Muslims. There is no debating and agreeing with them.

      • Tony

        I resent the slander to moose! Moose…..er…meese?……ah whateever, mooses…. are noble beasts who do not deserve to be insulted in this way. Where's PETA when you need them!? =p

      • kafirman

        Your bellicose approach is distasteful and ineffective. The way to defeat Islam is to defeat it morally. Victory lies in getting the median Muslim (all those whose hearts are not sold out on following in the terror path of Mohammad) to apostatize. Your bellicose tone is morally self-defeating and your use of a pejorative only makes it easier to dismiss you.

  • Marty

    muslims and apologists for islam have been going through remarkable if silly contortions for some time. They are cowards who have always lacked the courage to simply accept the fact that islam is brutal and violent in all of its manifestations and has been since its founding by a genocidal sociopath. Much if not most of the koran is about the violence to be visited on apostates, Jews, christians, and polytheists. sunni and shiite muslims are unable and unwilling to refrain from committing violence on one another since each is a heretical sect accoridng to the other. islam remains a death cult incapble of reform or moderation.

  • RiverFred

    The Life and Religion of Mohammed by J. L. Menezes should be required reading for all public school students, instead our schools totally whitewash Islam and Mohammed with a goody goody history book written by who else, Muslims practicing Al-Taqiyya.

  • Ricky Michael

    Make no mistake, any christian who will not recant their faith and take up Islam would be executed by these people. Moderation in Islam is a myth. The real definition is that the "moderate" just has not become ready to martyr him/herself yet for the faith. It takes that kind of devotion to brutally kill an innocent person. IMO, of course.

  • C..W.

    Before we get too incensed with Muslim atrocities, we have our own breed of executioners — they're called Abortion Doctors.

    • Galveston

      although it's off topic, both groups cheapen life

    • kafirman

      Exactly. Baby killing, wealth redistribution and homosexuality is poisoning the US's efforts to liberate Muslim's from Mohammad's grasp.

  • JAMIL

    FRIENDS I GREAT WITH PEACE YOU ALL. BUT NO BELIEVE NOT THE LIES BECAUSE YOU KNOW YOUR AMERICA MEDIA HAS THE JEWIST CONTROLING. BUT I KNOW ON FACT THAT THIS MAN NOT A CHRISTIAN. HE IS ZIONIST SPY FOR TROUBLE. I KNOW THIS YOU CAN TRUST. ISLAM IS THE PEACEFUL RELIGION AND THE GOD IS JUST ALWAYS. THESE IS FACT. PLEASE I ASK YOU NOT BELIEVE THE LIES. YOU MUST KNOW ISLAM.

    • Atikva

      Keep dreaming.

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

      And what part of Surah 9 don't you follow?

    • Mik

      so this is how the peaceful religion teaches its practitioners to deal with a spy? Interesting definition of peace

    • UCSPanther

      What part of "Keep your grubby hands off of my beliefs and lifestyle" do you not understand.?

    • Nakba1948

      Jamil, you're absolutely wrong. The Zionists can be blamed for they many awful things that they do, but it's quite clear in this case that this was a Christian Tunisian killed by Tunisian Muslims. This is not how true Muslims act, and you should condemn this cowardly act as I have. It is important to understand as well that the American media has Zionist, not Jewish (note: there is no such word as "Jewist" in English), leanings. In this case, however, it is your own media that has provided you with misinformation. Where are you from? You should know that most of the people who post on this are Zionist, neoconservative extremists who categorically hate Muslims and Arabs. Islam is indeed peaceful, but don't plan to get through to these racists.

      • KarshiKhanabad

        Snackbar, just why is it "racist" to criticize the Koran-based actions of Muslims? Arabs are the whitest white folks there are in the entire world and if you don't believe it, just ask one.

        Long live israel!

      • Afghandad

        When was being muslim a race!!! But hey, your friend Jamil did not say what they did was wrong. He is just making another excuse for killing this man.

    • Ricky Michael

      May be you should watch the video. Doesn't look that way to me.

  • Noone

    JESUS IS LORD!

  • RoguePatriot6

    I think that most of the SANE people in the world has realized that Islam is not a religion of peace. It's a religion that encourages conquest by the sword. Peace has nothing to with it. Well, it does as long as you submitt to it.

  • PushBack(not camel)

    the putrid followers of Muhammad's steamy camel dropping revelations, (parasitic brain delusions) wish to maintain the miserable conditions of the 7th Century. By no means is this beheading anything less….

    ….and in 2000 more years these Muhammedites will practice the same stone age practices immortalized in Satan's manual, the Quran.

  • Jim of Alabama

    Bring back the crusades.
    Flatten every Mosque where Jihad has been preached.
    Conquer every Muslim nation, kill their leaders and convert them.
    Let no Muslim Nation have an army, much less atomic bombs.

  • Leilani

    Everyone is so quick to condemn religion and jump on that bandwagon stop using this as a sounding board for your own religious phobia, did ANYONE watch that video? Did ANYONE notice that he didn't say anything and didn't even flinch when the cutting began? He didn't move a muscle when it started and unless his heart stopped instantly shouldn't cutting major arteries like that cause blood to jetson out of his neck? Tell you what if that is real its a tragedy and those idiots should burn now not wait for death and judgement, however there is something seriously sketchy about that whole video and it should be validated 100% before going off with half a freaking story, if your going to be a reporter do a better job!