Egypt’s Islamists to Grant ‘Sex After Death’ Right for Husbands

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It wasn’t just women’s groups who are outraged at the proposals. The idea that a man can have sex with his dead wife made one popular TV anchor nearly speechless. Jaber al-Qarmouty of ON TV told his audience:

This is very serious. Could the panel that will draft the Egyptian constitution possibly discuss such issues? Did Abdul Samea see by his own eyes the text of the message sent by Talawi to Katatni? This is unbelievable. It is a catastrophe to give the husband such a right! Has the Islamic trend reached that far? Is there really a draft law in this regard? Are there people thinking in this manner?

Dubbed the “Farewell Intercourse” law, the concept originated with a Moroccan cleric, Zamzami Abdelbari, who issued a fatwa last year that said necrophilia was “halal” or, religiously acceptable. He took as evidence a Koranic verse that says husbands will go to paradise with their wives. The fatwa also gave wives permission to have sex with their dead husbands, but as the Moroccan news service report said at the time, the imam “failed to explain how a woman can manage to perform sex with the corps (sic) of her dead husband.” The cleric is no stranger to controversy, having also said two years ago that it was permissible for a pregnant woman to drink alcohol.

The Farewell Intercourse law is getting all the attention, but it is the other planks in the Islamist platform that will do the most damage to Egyptian women. In anticipation of changes coming down the road, many universities are already segregating men and women in the classroom and outside activities. Threats from Islamists have caused some pop concerts on campus to be canceled. And the Atlanta Journal-Constitution reports that at some middle and high schools, students start the day by “shouting religious chants.” Clearly, a new wind is blowing through Egypt — and Islamist wind — and society is already making its peace with the new regime.

All of this makes the Obama administration’s outreach to the Muslim Brotherhood incomprehensible. Recall that two weeks ago, members of the FJP — some of whom will be voting on the sex after death and other anti-women legislation — visited the White House. At the time, White House press secretary Jay Carney said:

Because of the fact that Egypt’s political landscape has changed, the actors have become more diverse and our engagement reflects that. The point is that we will judge Egypt’s political actors by how they act — not by their religious affiliation.

As if to underscore the surreal nature of the administration’s policy, National Journal’s Michael Hirsch relates a startling conversation he had with a “high level official” of the State Department:

“The war on terror is over,” one senior State Department official who works on Mideast issues told me. “Now that we have killed most of al Qaida, now that people have come to see legitimate means of expression, people who once might have gone into al Qaida see an opportunity for a legitimate Islamism.”

“Legitimate Islamism” is a made-up concept with no connection to the real world. The question isn’t can we live with the Muslim Brotherhood and other Islamist parties. The question is how can we, as a western democracy dedicated to equal rights and equality of opportunity, legitimize a movement whose utter barbarity is out in the open for all to see. Lowering the legal age for marriage to 14 is Medieval. Mandating female circumcision is beyond belief in a 21st century society. Forcing a wife to stay with an abusive husband by denying her the right to a divorce is beyond cruel.

The dictator Mubarak was a cruel and oppressive tyrant. But under his rule, Egypt was gradually being brought into the modern world. Women had just begun to organize to fight for rights that many Arab countries deny exist. It was a long way from perfect, but the promise of a better life for women and girls was on the horizon.

Now, those hopes will be dashed and women will return to their status as property. Will American women’s rights group criticize this president for his naive and shortsighted policies? Will they stand in solidarity with their sisters in Egypt whose lives are to be ruined by fanatics? Will they seek a boycott of Egypt, or agitate against aid to Cairo, or call on the UN to sanction the Islamists for their nauseating policies?

Don’t hold your breath.

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  • Jethro Tall

    Instead of ACT UP, now we can have PROP UP!

    Necrophilia now! Change LGBT to LGBTN!!!

    • StephenD

      He thought she was unaffectionate after the FGM….

  • RobertPinkerton

    "Female 'circumcision'" is only and nothing other than an abomination.

    • Eric G

      Now, now …. mandated female circumcision just isn't misogynistic. Haven't you heard? Failing to provide birth control to students at prestigious law schools is the real abomination.

    • ObamaYoMoma

      "Female 'circumcision'" is only and nothing other than an abomination.

      Yet when you point that out to delusional Leftists and other unhinged apologists of Islam, like mind numbed zombies they all will respond that FGM is not a product of Islam, but a product of the pre-Islamic people that predated Islam. They also make that same exact excuse regarding honor killings by Muslims.

      However, if FGM and honor killings weren’t sanctioned by Sharia, then they would be deemed un-Islamic and blasphemous, and blasphemy in Islam is a capital offense. Hence, to state it isn't a product of Islam is both ludicrous and absurd.

  • DogWithoutSlippers

    We cannot live in their world – it must be destroyed!

  • guest

    Why don't we see ANY kind of protest from the muslim brotherhood supporter in the white house? He is sure quick to criticize Christians! Look at the stuff on youtube where he runs the bible down.

    • Mary

      you are an idiot

    • Alex

      You are NOT an idiot.

  • Chezwick

    Just by its shear shock-value, this story is absolutely newsworthy. Yet, I can't help wonder how many MSM outlets have actually reported it? My guess – cynic that I am – is very few, if any.

  • Steff

    Forget the Arab Spring- we could be about to see something comparable with the First World War among the Arab nations. I am very worried. And – Is Europe and the UK going to have to allow any Egyptian woman to seek political sanctuary? – because, the way I see it, they would be entitled to it.

  • ObamaYoMoma

    Since Egypt's new Islamist legislature is dominated today by Islamists according to most writers that don't have the first clue about Islam other than it is sometimes violent, then that must mean that those Islamists in Egypt's legislature were elected by the Islamists that comprise Egypt's population. Which would further mean that most of Egypt's Muslim population that voted for those Islamist legislators are also Islamists, and if that is the case, then it means that Egypt is a country comprised of Islamists, i.e., radical Muslims.

    Actually, what it means is those Egyptian Islamist legislators are actually mainstream orthodox Muslims that were in turn elected by the votes of mainstream orthodox Muslims. It also means that PC multicultural inventions like the word Islamists, which is just a more political correct way of saying radical Muslims, are myths that were created out of whole cloth to further the larger myth that Islam is a so-called Religion of Peace™ being hijacked by a tiny minority of extremists, and the vast overwhelming majority of Muslims in the world, according to that same absurd myth, are so-called moderate Muslims. Which demonstrably, per the outcome of Egypt's election results, is obviously absolutely false.

    The real reality instead is that all mainstream orthodox Muslims on earth are jihadists. A tiny minority of them are violent jihadists, while the vast overwhelming majority of Muslims are covert and deceptive non-violent jihadists, and the few that are not jihadists are not Muslim at all, but instead blasphemous apostates that per the dictates of mainstream orthodox Islam must be executed.

    Thus, this also means that mass Muslim immigration to the West including here in the USA is really covert and deceptive non-violent jihad for the purpose of mass infiltration and stealth demographic conquest to eventually make Islam supreme. As again all Muslims are jihadists or otherwise blasphemous apostates like Nonie Darwish that per the dictates of mainstream orthodox Islam must be executed. Indeed, Nonie Darwish lives today with a Fatwa on her head calling for her death.

    In fact, in America today because of mass Muslim infiltration of all our major institutions, i.e., our colleges and universities, news medias, political parties, etc., including also our federal government, all our political elites today have effectively been rendered blind and incompetent, and the ones that won't strictly adhere to the false PC multicultural myth whereby the vast overwhelming majority of Muslims in the world are assumed falsely to be moderates. will be hounded and ostracized out of office by their fellow political elites and the news media.

    Indeed, pay close attention to our political elites whenever they talk about the threats emanating from Islam, as they all sound like mind numbed zombies since they all use the same exact political correct terminology. In addition, all of them like clockwork will also deny that any threats emanate from Islam as well, as they will all insist instead that the threats emanate from violent extremists only such as AQ.

    In other words, the world's greatest threat emanating from Islam doesn't stem from violent jihad as is predominately assumed today thanks to PC multicultural myths and the indoctrination and manipulation of our political elites, but instead from covert and deceptive non-violent jihad via mass Muslim immigration and mass Muslim infiltration. Indeed, this further means that the massive expansion in the size, scope, and power of our federal government that occurred under GWB in order to allegedly protect the homeland from terrorist attacks, even though Muslims never ever fight terrorism but always fight violent and non-violent jihad in the cause of Allah instead, was totally unnecessary. It also means that it is also totally ineffectual and useless as well, because as long as we continue to allow mass Muslim immigration, which in reality is covert and deceptive non-violent jihad for the purpose of mass Muslim infiltration and stealth demographic conquest, we are in essence pissing in the wind while throwing our tax dollars down the proverbial drain and going bankrupt at the same time, which is one of the main objectives of the covert and deceptive non-violent jihad.

    • truebearing

      Political correctness is the key to enabling the Muslims to infiltrate our society at will, just like it opened doors for the far Left.

      BTW, how did you manage a comment that long? I can only write a few paragraphs before I get the "too long" notice.

      • ObamaYoMoma

        Register with Intense debate. There should be a link somewhere on this page, and then gradually over time increase the size of your posts.

        • truebearing

          Thanks

    • It was a gated property: what was trayvon doing there?

      Excellent. Thus country is so busy screaming about Mexican illegals but the truth is that there are now millions if mislems here, millions of women parading around in burkas with only eyes showing. Who let them in? Why are they here? How many are in welfare, food stamps, free health care, free public schools????? The steets are full if them pushing baby strollers!!!!
      Who let them in??????

  • davarino

    Backwoods retards. They need to be corraled in the middle east and let em duke it out with each other.

    We need another McCarthy. "Are you, or have you ever been associated with a muslim"

    • lily Darcey

      We should have nuked the hell out of these people long ago!!

  • davarino

    These are backwoods Ret@rds. How can anyone follow them as legitimate spiritual leaders

  • StephenD

    Shhhh. Listen. Hillary is about to say something about our aid to Egypt supporting regime change and Egypt's new "democracy" Hahahahahahahahahaha

    • kafir4life

      Actually, in her case, having sex with a live Hillary is identical to having sex with a dead muslima, only the smell is a bit better (with the muslima). Take a look at that thing, and tell me Bill didn't do what any normal man would do confronted with sex with a living corpse.

  • StephenD

    I just want to know how the conversation went for the first guy that raised the subject with his Imam. Can you picture this??
    "Ass = Salami – Bacon" “Bacon – Salami to you"
    “I am troubled as I do not see an example of our great and powerful Oz, I mean Prophet as it relates to my problem. I mean sure, he did little girls and had ‘Revelations’ that were always convenient to whatever he wanted but did he ever want to ‘do’ his dead wife like I do?”
    Oh Mine Imam, I just want a chance to, how do you say, stick it to her one more time…but alas she has died. What shall I do?”
    It is decided that she is your wife even unto death. So, if you can get it up for your goat I’m sure you can for your, by now, cold and clammy dead wife. Have at her! So let it be written. So let it be done.”
    “The great and powerful Oz would have done it too .”
    “Go my brother, before the worms get to her. You have the blessing of Islam to do your dead wife.”

  • joy52

    Since we are giving them money, does this mean we are indirectly promoting this? Somebody ask O and Hil…

  • H&R_ Barack

    "Egypt’s Islamists also Grant ‘Sex After Death’ Right for Wives"
    .

    Muslim women response:- "GEE, there'z a difference?"

  • missandrist

    I wouldn't be too quick to point fingers at Islam as being the cause of this, but rather a convenient sanction for yet another facet of humanity's utter depravity. We Christians proof-text the Bible to suit our needs and, were there any question in the Bible about whether or not necrophilia were sinful, there would be a church in favor of it, just as we now find churches which condone homosexuality and just as different forms of misogyny are rampant in Christian society, and our own country is plagued with human trafficking. It's the scum-sucking human race that does this, our own fellow human beings, our neighbors who may be just as willing to have sex with their dead wife as the Egyptian Muslim man thousands of miles away. It's sickening.

    • StephenD

      At least we have the common decency not to codify it into law!! But Islam would and has.

      Just another reason to cuddle up to Islam!

      • missandrist

        Not yet, anyway. What's to stop our liberal government from doing so, especially since it is currently demonstrating complaisance toward the Egyptian government and it's nauseating policies? They certainly don't have the Bible to hold them back.

      • A.David

        Yeh us AMERICANS have no right to whine about another countries divorce laws. We have states in this country that make it almost impossible for an abused woman to get a divorce without her husband's "permission"! We have states that wont allow a married woman to sell her own property (real estate) without her husband's permission though he isn't an owner of that property! We have states in this country that deny women the right of legal protection from assault equal to any other citizen solely because she is married to the person assaulting her — thus he OWNS her body! So quit blaming my faith for your backward uncivilized treatment of women! Socialism, not ISLAM ran Egypt before Democracy tried to root itself there. Socialism was there because "Civilized Americans" as they like to perceive themselves were too busy trying to kiss up to Israel so they could be "LIFTED UP" in a giant plume of smoke while the world was ethnically cleansed by their demi-god half-human/half-diety. Yeh, lets talk about violent religious teachings… huh? I think Jesus would be shocked at what his so called followers now promote as self-interested "charity" and "faith".

    • truebearing

      Why not? It was started by a Muslim cleric and is being pushed by radical Muslims. Making some blanket equivalency is ridiculous, and it provides cover for the sickos who are on the verge of making this the law of their land. Are you saying that there is another religion that stones women to death simply because her husband accused her of adultery? Or another religion that practices FGM? Or a religion that wants to destroy all other religions? Or a religion that encourages women, children, and mentally ill people to commit suicide while blowing up innocent people?

      Some humans are depraved, but institutional depravity is an entirely different matter, and that is what Islam is about.

      • A. David

        I guess that means ALL Christians are accountable for the actions and beliefs of the radicals in Christian history, especially if any Preacher or Priest said something and a few followed him or her. Right?

        A "Cleric" means nothing in Islamic theological structure. That is the problem. You all want to give them more authority then Islam gives the idiots, because it suits your hatred and bigotry.

    • WilliamJamesWard

      What ever happened to common sense, one would think there would be no need to look into
      the Scriptures for guidance in dealing with the dead, bury them and do it in a timely manner.
      Depravity defines itself and is obvious to all but the severely mentally disturbed and disgustingly
      vulgar and bizzare individual that while appearing to be in human form, is not human.
      William

      • A.David

        That is exactly what Islam demands. In fact the body has to be immediately bathed by a fellow woman, NOT a male at all. It must be cleaned, wrapped and prayed over & put in the ground within three days of death. NO ONE is allowed to mutilate or have intercourse with a corpse! That is punishable by religious law, within Islam. So this "cleric' was an idiot and the true scholars will likely have a field day on this issue! Her family would also! The husband would be seen in a horrible manner, as he should be! Respecting the deceased is a major issue in Islam. Its not taken lightly and this whole issue of sex with the dead suggests the husband & the cleric need to be removed from society.

  • Ghostwriter

    Again,having sex with your dead wife? That's just creepy on ALL levels.

    • Hanna

      Indeed. Which man would even be able to have sex with his wife who has just died, you would think that grief would be all he could manage. Just revolting.
      Just goes to show what perverted narcissists many of them must be.

  • Amused

    just when you thought you heard it all , another plunge deep into the utterly bizarre forms of human behavior .Add necrophilia to that long long list of aberations that islam embraces .

  • Amused

    did I say bizarre , I meant bizarre AND DEPRAVED .

  • Linda Rivera

    Obama made a special point of inviting his favorites, the Muslim Brotherhood, to his speech in Cairo.

    Behind the scenes, America worked to oust U.S. ally, moderate Mubarak, in order to bring to power U.S. leaders top favorites, the Muslim Brotherhood, whose stated goal is the DESTRUCTION of civilization and global Islamic conquest.

    • Asher

      The Arab Spring was enabled and put into place to form the Caliphates in the Middle East and now everywhere else. Muslim Brotherhood at top levels of U.S. Government.

  • WilliamJamesWard

    Is this some sick twist on the phrase of "Dead man walking"?, What will the islamist fiends think up
    next. I can only think that the Islamists women can not escape abuse living or dead. These sick
    rat bastids are still coming to America, we need legislation banning them from graveyards…….
    Banning them from America and getting rid of what is here is eminently better………..William

  • E. Beck

    Sandra Fluke, if you would really like to do something for womens issues, pack your bags and head to Egypt babe. P.S. Buy your own ticket there too.

    • Amused

      That ain't too bright you dimbulb , what for ? to get raped ? Schmuck !

  • Bartimaeus

    "The Freedom and Justice Party”, what an absolutely amazing inversion of the truth. And the left wants to protect this kind of ideology. Will the people of America please wake up!

  • kafir4life

    The Joy of islam.

    Considering the lack of any sexual skills possessed by male members of the supreme RoP, they wouldn't notice the difference. The only muslim women who have enjoyed orgasim are the ones who've strayed from the ummah.

  • Ed Frias

    So do the Egyptian women get to do it with their dead husbands? If not, this is aparthied against Egyptian woman.
    Seriously, can you imagine if Israel had a law like this? Then it would be front page news on every newspaper and tv stations.

    • Asher

      This is totally sick and perverted.

  • dougjmiller

    Islamists approve of necrophilia in Egypt. Check the small print, I think they also gave men permission to kill their women. I guess this is considered foreplay by Islamists. But you'd think that Egyptian divorce attorneys would be raising a ruckus.

  • Amused

    Muslim women ,abused and mutilated in life …..and now defiled in death .

    • Kinggeorge

      YES AMUSED !! MUSLIMS ARE SOME SICK MO–ER FU–ERS, THIS IS NOT A RELIGION, THIS IS DEMONISM AT BEST AND OVOMIT IS ONE TOO !! AMERICA NEEDS TO WAKE , BUT MOST WON'T, JUST LIKE NAZI GERMANY, THEY WOKE UP TOO LATE !!!!!!!!!!

  • Hanna

    Even the UK is tiptoeing on it's way to complete Sharia law too : http://www.radicalislam.org/analysis/update-brita
    God help us, the politicans wont.

  • Asher

    This proves the hatred and diregard for women as equals…They are treated less humanely than a horse or cow!

  • WilliamJamesWard

    So now we may be in discovery of Mullah O's intent for America and motive………………….William

  • alphakilosingh

    What is encouraging here is, that the Mullah has not shown any gender bias in his fatwa; he has given the equal right to the woman too, to have sex with her dead husband if she desires!
    Can anyone throw some light on how this could be put in action?

  • David

    What sort of people are these? They certainly don't belong to the human race. No wonder Islam has such a bad name. These clerics are just perverts using sharia law to justify their sordid dirty acts of peodophilia and necrophilia.

  • Dispozadaburka

    Islam. Pure Luciferian Doctrine.

    Hope Hillary Clinton and Michelle's daughters enjoy breast feeding muslim men at work
    and enjoying sex after death with their partners!

    AHHHHH…………………………………………………. Liberation at Last!

  • Shocked

    A line needs to be drawn, necrophilia and Hebephilia, how could this ever be aceptable by law. Two words
    moral compass, probably some old men who want to have sex with 14yr old girls so there trying to make it legal, and a couple others who are into necrophilia, castration being the big motivator of all this maybe. In a religion where you can make your own rules via your own interpretations are you really following a god's rule, or your own. Being
    religious doesn't exclude a person from corruption or mental illness, religious people are after all still people like everyone else, and i'm curious that if this law gets passed what exactly would it take for a line to be drawn?

  • http://www.lawyer-burnaby.ca/ Burnaby Lawyers

    In ancient Athens, women had no legal personhood and were assumed to be part of the oikos headed by the male kyrios. Until marriage, women were under the guardianship of their father or other male relative, once married the husband became a woman’s kyrios. As women were barred from conducting legal proceedings, the kyrios would do so on their behalf

  • http://www.lawyer-burnaby.ca/ Burnaby Lawyers

    In the subsequent decades women's rights again became an important issue in the English speaking world. By the 1960s the movement was called "feminism" or "women's liberation." Reformers wanted the same pay as men, equal rights in law, and the freedom to plan their families or not have children at all. Their efforts were met with mixed results.

  • http://cybergatis.blogspot.com cybergatis

    This gives the word "HORNY" a new Sick and Disturbing Meaning. Having been to these countries I have seen how women are treated. So if they abuse them alive, why stop when they are dead. This whole world seems sick anymore.

  • John Christie

    Egypt is going from the frying pan into the fire.

  • mkd

    Isn't that also Romney's agenda? What he has planned for American women is 19th century health care.

  • YOUGOTABKIDING

    WELL, IF IT’S GOOD ENOUGH FOR MUSLIMS i SAY MICHELLE OBAMA SHOULD BE FIRST IN LINE. RIGHT? I MEAN REALLY, OBAMA’S MOTHER WAS MUSLIM AND HE WAS RAISED WITH DUAL RELIGIONSS. i SAY HE SHOULD EMBRACE HIS MUSLIM BACKGROUND AND REALLY GET BEHIND THESE LAWS. WHAT DO YOU THINK? HOW ABOUT HIS GIRLS?

  • anonymous

    It will outraged the Islamic world too!, It has nothing to do with Islam rule

  • OMOLADE

    THIS IS A STUPID THINKING FROM ANY ONE SO FAR ITS JUST AS IF THERE STILL GOING BACK TO THE JAHILIYA PERIOD AND FOR ANY MAN WHO ACCEPT THAT FACT SHOULD BEER IT IN MIND THAT HE IS A STUPID JAHIL

  • umakemesick

    so they now want to marry little girls, have sex with a corpse, and take away a womans/girls right to do anything about it. wow they are a great people. no i wont have an open mind and accept others. anyone who would support this is sick in the head.