Obama’s ‘Flexibility’ on Missile Defense

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President Barack Obama’s open mic comments to Russian President Dmitri Medvedev, asking for “space” on missile defense  until after the US presidential elections in November when he believes he will have more “flexibility” to negotiate have the White House in full damage control mode. Obama’s request that the Russians hang tight until after the election is not in itself all that surprising. This is an election year and something as vital to US security as missile defense should not be negotiated in a partisan atmosphere. But the key word in the president’s comments is “flexibility.” And the key question is: how much more “flexible” can the president possibly get and not give away the store on missile defense?

The president made his unguarded remarks in Seoul, South Korea where he is attending a summit meeting on nuclear security. Republicans immediately jumped on the president’s comments to Medvedev, with GOP presidential candidates criticizing Obama’s desire to wait until after the election as a sign that he may be willing to offer larger concessions to the Russians than would be safe for US national security. This is not an unreasonable fear given the president’s past unilateral actions to address Russian concerns about the missile shield. And given the president’s eagerness to negotiate another START treaty, there is a danger that Obama will sell out on missile defense in order to get the Russians to sign an arms limitation pact.

The White House deputy national security advisor Ben Rhodes sought to play down the president’s gaffe by passing it off as nothing extraordinary:

Since 2012 is an election year in both countries, with an election and leadership transition in Russia and an election in the United States, it is clearly not a year in which we are going to achieve a breakthrough. Therefore, President Obama and President Medvedev agreed that it was best to instruct our technical experts to do the work of better understanding our respective positions, providing space for continued discussions on missile-defense cooperation going forward.

This isn’t the first time Obama has been caught by a “hot mic” saying something revealing. During a meeting with French President Nicholas Sarkozy last November, there was this exchange about Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu between the two leaders that was heard by the assembled press: “I can’t stand him. He’s a liar,” Sarkozy said. Obama replied, “You’re tired of him; what about me? I have to deal with him every day.”

This time, rather than an arrogant dismissal of an ally, the president’s comments are far more revealing of what he plans for a second term if he is re-elected.  The entire exchange was short, but significant:

President Obama: On all these issues, but particularly missile defense, this, this can be solved but it’s important for him to give me space.

President Medvedev: Yeah, I understand. I understand your message about space. Space for you…

President Obama: This is my last election. After my election I have more flexibility.

President Medvedev: I understand. I will transmit this information to Vladimir.

GOP presidential candidates immediately tried to make political hay out of Obama’s remarks. Mitt Romney referred to them as “an alarming and troubling development.” Newt Gingrich went even further, hinting that the comments were indicative of how far left an Obama second term would be, adding that this was an “extraordinary moment caught on tape where the president basically said to a Russian leader, ‘Please wait until after the election so I can sell out.’” And the Republican National Committee rushed out a video of the president’s comments, asking, “What else is on Obama’s agenda after the election that he isn’t telling you?”

The remarks to Medvedev were meant to be passed on to newly elected President Vladimir Putin, who has been adamant in his position that the missile defense shield the US wants to put in Europe is aimed at Russia. “No one has explained to me why we should believe that the new missile defense system in Europe isn’t directed against us,” Medvedev said at the conference.

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  • PDK

    Barac Obama is a wrecking ball smashing into the good ediface America. His destructive policies in all fields will take a long time to repair. That he may be reelected is unbelievable. Another 4 years and his damage may well be irreparable.
    With his popularity constantly in the 40s% one must wonder what those Americans are thinking. Whatever their personal reasoning is ,they still have to be insane to support his anti American positions.
    Perhaps they just hate America.
    One and done. Nobama 2012, vote republican. Thank you.

    • Asher

      I cannot imagine how people who voted for him were so gullible! Hope its not too late to save this country. Stop and think about it., The president and representatives in washington can go to underground bunkers if we are attacked, Where do the Rest of us go?

      • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

        Where ever our torches and pitchforks demand. It's a shame it will come to that.

  • http://www.resonoelusono.com/NaturalBornCitizen.htm Alexander Gofen

    Wait, but how on Earth is the usurper Soetoro so sure that he is going to be reelected?! No "if" statement, mind you… Indeed, he is sure because the so called "opposition" is bought by the same owner… Repoooblicans are traitors, accomplices of Obama and Dems. The stinking repoobs only care that "the ineligibility issue" would alienate too many people from the Republican Party! (See Diane West):
    http://www.wnd.com/2012/03/why-the-silence-about-

    What a shame, what a disgrace for America!

    Since day one an unconstitutional usurper, islamic foreign agent, a crook, forger, identity thief, and a Manchurian candidate with a long track record is musing on his own reelection!
    http://www.resonoelusono.com/2008vs1917.htm

    The world does know everything, Russia does know everything, yet America seems still not noticing that its pants are soiled…

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

      They run the voting machines. Remember The Reid election in Nevada?

      • fiddler

        Oh yes!

  • Matt

    Gingrich is right he does himself no favors. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/02/24/missil
    My favorite program is Homeland.
    Vlad I will sell them out after the election.

    Allahu Akbar.

  • crackerjack

    The US have more than enough nukes to destroy the globe, Russia likewise. And nobody has of yet comprehensively explained why we need yet another multi tillion dollar star wars programm or does anyone really envisage Iran starting a nuclear war against the West. LOL.

    Scrap nukes, build schools.

    • Anthony

      Schools are incubators for the Left’s shock troops. Ever see a typical middle schooler today? Shameful.

    • Crossbow87

      CJ, you get why Russia no likee da missile shield, ja? It reduces their ability to intimidate and leverage European countries. Get it.

      • crackerjack

        European countries don't want the missile shield. The whole concept was pushed through by a handfull of US neocon arms lobby lunatics together with a few of their Polish and Czech crooneys. Germany wasn't asked, France and England neither.

        The population at the designated sites in Poland and Czechslovakia have been running storm against the so called "shield" since day one. The Cod War ended 2 decades ago. nobody want's it back just to to fill the pockets of the US arms industrie.

        • reader

          That's a bunch of crock, or should I say, crack. We also know that the First World War ended decades ago. By the way, Czechoslovakia has not been in existence for years now, genius, and yet you don't seem to have picked up on that. Begs a question about what population you are referring to and how exactly did you manage to poll this population.

        • Alvaro

          "European countries don't want the missile shield."

          You are clueless. *Leftists* in Europe don't want a missile shield, because they want Russia to intimidate Europe or even defeat Europe. Just as some of them provided military intelligence to the Soviet union as late as the 80s, waiting for their red "comrades", and denouncing democracy.

          Any true European will defend European core values against half-Asiatic Russian totalitarianism, A missile defense shield would be the best thing that has happened Europe in terms of defense for decades. The Russian saber-rattling shows they are scared out of their wits about it, and it means we are doing everything right.

        • fiddler

          I can just hear crack humming the strains of "Imagine":

          "Imagine there's no country
          it isn't hard to do
          nothing to kill or die for,
          and no religion too"

          Lennon is dead.

        • wsk

          What a mucking foron! There's no sense in trying to explain anything to you.

    • reader

      "And nobody has of yet comprehensively explained why we need yet another multi tillion dollar star wars programm or does anyone really envisage Iran starting a nuclear war against the West. LOL"

      The comprehension joke's on you. Unfortunately, less and less here comprehend anything. Speaking about comrehensively explained, nobody has of yet comprehensively explained why we need the Department of Education. Ever since it's been established the education in this country has gone downhill.

    • Paul of Alexandria

      * Missile defense works, it's past the research stage and ready for deployment.
      * As has been posted many times, the purpose of missile defense is to stop the small-scale launches from such places as Iran. BTW, the proposed ABM sites in Europe weren't so much to protect the Europeans, although they would, as to protect us from missiles coming Westward from Iran. The sites in Alaska protect us from missiles coming Eastwards and over the north pole.
      * Yes, we could destroy the launching country: IF we can verify the country of origin. If, however, the missile originates from a mobile launcher somewhere in the middle of a middle-east desert or in a third country that we know does not have missile technology, or from a ship in the middle of the Atlantic, we're kind of stuck.
      * Several important things to remember re this last point:
      1) the U.S. military will not respond even to a nuclear attack unless authorized by the National Command Authority – the president. If the person launching the missile has any doubt about the president's willingness to retaliate, they may consider the risk to be worthwhile.
      2) Retaliation is all well and good, but it doesn't stop the missile itself or the damage that it caused. If Chicago gets vaporized, it's small comfort to the victims that Tehran gets shredded shortly afterwards.
      3) There is a very large probability that the mullahs in Iran are, in fact, willing to risk their country's destruction (although they themselves would be in hardened bunkers) in order to destroy "the great Satan" and the "lesser Satan". Of course this gets balanced with point #1 above in their calculations.
      4) Despite the various movies and stories recently, U.S. intelligence and law-enforcement (not to mention the Special Forces) have done a pretty good job of stopping attacks on U.S. soil since 9/11. By must estimates, over 500 attacks of various descriptions have been stopped since that time. Yes, bombs can be smuggled in by ship or plane, but we have mechanisms in place to stop that sort of thing. An ICBM is the only method of attack that cannot be stopped in this fashion (at least unless the military attacks the launch site).

    • Stephen_Brady

      Destroy the globe. Not likely. The Russians have been designing and deploying new nuclear weapons systems, including ICBMs, for decades. We haven't deployed any new nukes for many years. We don't test our weapons. One of the first things Obama did, in office, was to kill a NASA heavy lifter which could have been used in our nuclear deterrent. He has given away nuclear deterrence to the Russians, without getting anything back from them.

      As we sit at our computers so amiably chatting, Obama is pursuing a unilateral plan which would bring America's nuke deterrence down to 300 weapons. Without getting anything from the USSR … excuse me … the Russians, in return, he will reduce the United States to a third-rate nuclear power and open this nation up to nuclear blackmail.

      The man is a traitor …

  • truebearing

    Obama is the universal trojan Horse to any enemy this nation ever had, and a friend and co-conspirator with every enemy. He is evil personified. He is also way too sure of a win in November. I guess he knows how many illegal votes his henchman plan on making. Who is going to stop them….Holder?

  • Saltire

    Seriously, either he realizes that his words have meaning or, to paraphrase the late Lawrence Eagleburger, it truly is amateur hour at the White House when it comes to foreign policy and protecting our own national security. Poland is worried now, that the United States word cannot be trusted.

    The President pals up with the Turkish Prime Minister, who also has started Turkey on an Islamist path. He unblocks military aid to Egypt soon after Egypt declares Israel their number one enemy. The President visits the truce line in South Korea and looks across the border to North Korea and is surprised by what he sees. He must not have access to any good satellite photos from the NSA or Google Earth.

    This is a really scary strategy that places our national security and interests in jeopardy.

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

      Either way, the country is screwed. With a president that feels what's good for the country is something he can 'flex' on. Or doesn't have a clue.

      Thank goodness the entire country isn't Chicago yet.

      • Saltire

        Unfortunately, Chicago-style of politics may be spreading based upon the role model of the country's leadership, and influence of the advisers.

  • Anthony

    Obama is a disgusting shame on our history. But which nation produced such a misfit? Which nation’s elite universities moulded his intellect, shaped his character? What ideology does he religiously follow and is fanatically cheered by almost half the population? What force today is driving our nation into the ditch and says differences are strengths, and everyone is equal, except some, who due to their race are given special consideration, like being elected president for the novelty and diversity it offers?

    Well, Barack Hussein is showing the ugly truth about his ilk. They are the totalitarians they appear to thinking people to be.

    But about the ugliness of America today, about the unhealthy emphasis on sex and violence and multiculturalism, and spreading these thing worldwide, WE ARE NO LONGER A FIT NATION.

    In fact, we deserve to fall faster and harder than we are. America is diseased and there is no cure as long as liberalism is the supreme law of the land.

    That is why I want Barack and his wife and the cackling power tripping Hilliary Clinton back in office next year. Only a second, full contact Obama term will shock the uneducated, mindless devotees of this man and what he represents into reality. Hopefully, his second term will usher in the time in America’s history when we once again shoot for the stars as a nation, individually seeking out our own destinies, finding our own talents and achievements , not sit fixated on racial, religious, sexual chaos that we peddle across the world as something to sign aboard on.

    China is taking notes. They are the exact opposite of us today. We need rediscover, to use a line from Rocky, “The eye of the tiger”.

    • MacDaddy31

      China has plenty of their own ills. I would never hold them up as an example.

    • davarino

      I dont know, can I give you a thumbs up and a thumbs down. What you say is scarry but I see your point in that a second term would really give the clueless democrats a clear vision of what their party has become and turn on them in droves. The only thing is, I wonder if we can recover from a second term.

      We would also need the republicans to pick up the ball and do the right thing. We would need them to become conservative. We would need them to stop playing the game in Washington that ingratiates themselves at our expense. We would need them to become bold in their repudiation of everything liberal and turn this country around

    • Asher

      The Left and Islam have been working together for quite some time to form a One World Caliphate..One World Religion! Our Constitution would disappear and Sharia would be the Law of the Land.

  • Rifleman

    “No one has explained to me why we should believe that the new missile defense system in Europe isn’t directed against us,”- Medvadev.

    Because it's a defensive shield, it isn't directed against anyone.

    • davarino

      Good point, it would only be directed at them if they become the aggressors.

    • Stephen_Brady

      Exactly. The "warheads" don't even have any explosive capability. If they land in Russia, they make a hole in the ground.

    • Guy from Europe

      If this "shield" is capable of stoping all Russian missiles the US will have an ability to nuke Russia without being nuked itself.

      • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

        And if we wanted to nuke them they'd be melted glass now.

        We actually value life around the world. Your world view is tilted away from reality.

      • Rifleman

        Russian missiles headed for the USA don't cross Europe, they cross the Artic. The proposed system would protect Europe.

        • Guy from Europe

          You have missile defence in the North as well.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            So you admit your entire argument is invalid. Nice!

          • Rifleman

            No we don't. We have an early warning system, the DEW line, like we've always had, but no targeting or battle management systems. We are entitled to two under the old ABM treaty, but we haven't had any since we retired the old Nike Zeus batteries around DC. We were building a base in Alaska that would intercept missiles from North Korea or Eastern China, but like the Eastern system, didn't have enough interceptors to significantly depreciate a Russian attack and wouldn't stop any missiles coming over their pole from Western Russia.

            If you want to be held hostage to the old KGB and the mad mullahs, that's your choice, but know what you're doing, and know you're condemning Eastern Europe, again, and endangering us as well, because we are committed to your defense. Oh, and understand that you won't be free to disagree with either of the alternatives, like you are with us.

  • StephenD

    I love the reassuring pat on the leg of Medvadev by Obama. Not a word of scorn as to their support for Iran, North Korea, etc., etc. Yet, WE offer reassurances to THEM. And to think, Obama actually has a chance of getting re-elected!!
    Reminds me of a skit from the Three Stooges short films that had water pouring out of a light fixture and the man saying “This house has sure gone crazy.” This is how I feel about America with Obama at the helm.

  • Steve Chavez

    "PUTIN'S REVENGE!" Who aided in the Soviet defeat in Afghanistan? Now Putin, our CPUSA and thousands of their fronts, are aiding in our defeat in Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, Syria, Egypt and the whole Middle East with the destruction of Israel as the icing on the cake!

    "When the Wall fell, we cheered, they cried. When the Twins fell, we cried, they cheered." "THEY" ARE OUR COMMUNISTS since they were the most bitter when the Soviet Union fell. REMEMBER THAT IN THE 1980'S OUR CPUSA AND KGB TEAMED UP TO RECRUIT AND INDOCTRINATE COLLEGE STUDENTS AND BARACK OBAMA WAS ONE OF THEM! He has also surrounded himself with those same '80's dupes which I call his "Circle of Communists." THEY LOVED THE SOVIET UNION MORE THAN THEIR OWN COUNTRY!

    WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO INSURE AN OBAMA DEFEAT? Preaching to the choir won't do any good. "IT'S THE PRICE OF GAS STUPID!" While filling up, you must blurt out and blame OBAMA! Tell your friends and family about how the price of gas is causing problems in many ways ans then come out with many of Obama's WAR ON OIL which is moratoriums on Gulf drilling/domestic/Alaska/Keystone, dreams of algae, Chevy Volt that is a failure, giving Brazil's Petroglas billion dollar loans "so we can buy oil from you." "IT'S THE ECONOMY STUPID!"

    • Choi

      As Obama told his supporters 4 yrs ago: "Get in their faces".
      Works BOTH WAYS.

  • Dispozadaburka

    Barack is the name of Mohammed's white horse.

    Hussein is the name of the third imam but also ties in with the name of the "hidden imam." 12th

    O – BA – MA in Persian means "He is with us."

    Welcome in the Mahdi !!!!

    • Asher

      Islam wants to hasten the Islamic Messiah, The Mahdi, by creating Nuclear War. We can see how all the nations in the MIddle East are lining up against Israel and America as foretold by the Prophet Ezekiel and Obama enabled the Arab Spring.

  • Johncdavidson

    Two Commies almost hugging.

  • Schlomotion

    A seated US President is caught red handed thinking he is guaranteed reelection while negotiating with Russia over missile defense! This has never happened before!!!

  • kasandra

    The transcription of the exchange in the article is incomplete. Although ABC edited from its posted transcript and did not include it in its captioning of the film, if you watch the original film, Medvedev says, after saying he will transmit the information to Putin, "and I stand with you." Isn't it nice, the President of the United States is asking for space until after the election to cut an agreement on nuclear weapons and/or anti-missile defence, with Russia. He isn't doing it before the election because he knows that what he wants to agree to would be wildly unpopular with the American people (i.e., the electorate). If it was going to be popular, he'd do it before the election. So he and the Russian president are standing together but against the American people. Nice guy we have in the White House.

  • Tanstaafl

    Two words. Manchurian Candidate.

  • BLJ

    Comrade Obama should be tried for treason. He is the eneny within. How in the hell this turncoat ever became President of the United States is a mystery to me.

    I am sure he has similar "understandings" with the rest of our enemies. Re-electing him will hasten the end of America.

  • Demetrius M

    "After "MY" election, "I" will have more flexibility…" Once again, it all ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME!

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

      Does he have a flower named after him like Narcissis yet?

  • kasandra

    Apparently so. DEBKAfile claims that in its next issue of DEBKA-Net-Weekly, out this Friday, it will reveal that almost the same message that Obama conveyed to Medvedev went out to Iranian leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, via Turkey’s Tayyip Erdogan. Maybe Obama could let the American people in on what he intends.

  • Choi

    "The White House deputy national security advisor Ben Rhodes sought to play down the president’s gaffe by passing it off as nothing extraordinary:"

    Considering it's O,it's NOT "extraordinary",but PAR .for the course.

  • Choi

    Also,when watching the video,O puts his hand on Medvedev's forearm ,followed by Medvedev putting his free hand on top of O's hand on his other forearm.in a gesture of affection and recognition,and understanding of WHAT message to convey to "Vladamir".
    EVERY American MUST UNDERSTAND what happened during that moment.

  • Rifleman

    Hussein will be even more flexible about selling us down the river if he's still in office after the election, and not just to the Russians. America lucked out that he's so incompetent, but he's still done a lot of damage, and will do more before next January. Watch all the regulations he imposes in the last months of his administration.

  • flyingtiger

    Obama sounds like me when I am explaining to my supervisior why some project will not be done on time. I need more flexibility. The only thing shocking about this staement is that he is Putin's puppet. I thought he was China and the Saudi's puppett. One man cannot serve so many masters.

    • reader

      He's essentially anti-American. He sides with traditionally hostile to the US governments and he undermines traditionally friendly to the US governments at every turn. It's in his blood. He, or should I say, Bill Ayers on his behalf, explained as much in the "Dreams From My Father."

  • Brujo Blanco

    It was asked how the communist Obama got ellected. Answers he was black, leftist, and democrat. The rems are basically in bed with the commies.

  • Guy from Europe

    USA killed millions of peple in the last 20 years all over the globe and now is trying to create a system they believe will make them invincible in face of other countries nukes. The largest military force the world ever saw, the largest natioonal debt in the world's history. The empire us duyng and in agony threats to burry the world with it.

    • reader

      The joke "from europe" makes the point by carefully avoiding even a word of disapproval toward Obama. Thanks for chipping in, scmuck.

    • Stephen_Brady

      Oh, goodie! Another troll from Europe. In what country can we find you hiding under your bridge?

    • Western Spirit

      Is this the same Europe that's been protected by America all these years and giving Europe a break in defending itself?

      Well this time people with a fascist mentality are invading your shores through immigration your on your own, idiot.

  • WilliamJamesWard

    As the station attendant approaches my car to put in gas and I comment on how nice his ski-mask
    looks I think of Obama and see him in a ski-mask making demands to weaken every aspect of
    American life and encouraging our enemies that he is their guy. Isn't it past time for Americans to
    understand that the anti-American troll needs to be sent packing and all demorats and leftist enemies
    be dealt with, the wait is not killing us, I hope, November or bust…………………………………..William

  • Guy from Europe

    US is already a 3rd world state. You produce nothing except military and food. You use cars made by us, iphones made by China and software made by Russia. American empire is in the same state as GB was 100 years ago. A fake colossus.

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

      And what position do you hold in this anti-American Obama administration?

      • Guy from Europe

        For me all american presidents are the same. I don't see much difference between Obama and Bush.

        • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

          And for me all muslim militants are all the same.

          9:5 Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

  • Guy from Europe

    US is already a 3rd world state. You produce nothing except military and food. You use cars made by us, iphones made by China and software made by Russia. American empire is in the same state as GB was 100 years ago. A fake colossus.

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

      Tell that to the doctors that operated on the leaders from around the world. Didn't the Saudi King come here for Back surgery?

      Our might has pulled the world back from the brink several times.

      • Guy from Europe

        You might is killing innocents in many countries right now while we talk.

        • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

          The tribal leaders plotting suicide attacks in pakistan?

          We consider protecting our enemies an act of war, like the taliban protecting Osama after 9/11. Bush negotiated as long as he could before the troops were sent it.

          Facts are not your friends.

          • Guy from Europe

            I am talking about Iraq and Libya whom you bombed into middleages.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Iraq leadership attempted to assassinate Bush 41 in Kuwait, that's Casus belli.

            Libya? That's squarely on the marxist president of muslim heritage. One of your own, really.

          • Guy from Europe

            Libya was a secular state with high life standarts and many benefeats for citizens. Now it is a sharia muslim state with civil war. You are producing muslim terrorists.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            In case of war, it won't be us starting it.

            So, you're entire scenario is off base.

          • Guy from Europe

            You invaded Libya for far-fetched pretext. People there today live worse than in Kadafi times. And Kadafi didn't theated you at all, he was guilty to have oil you wanted.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Hello, this may be hard but try to pay attention.
            Our dictator did that entirely on his own to reward Al Qaida who Bush denied funding and a safe haven too. Our marxist of muslim heritage isn't' working for the interests of the US, so don't blame us for what he's doing.

            And we're working to get him tossed from office as fast as our system allows.

          • Guy from Europe

            So you think Obama is responsible alone? Do you really think that if you had that alternative guy (Maccein) it would be different?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Does the word 'dictator' have any meaning in your little mind?

          • trickyblain

            If he was a dictator, your door would have been already knocked down and you would be in the midst of very bad happenings, Roger.

            But nice to see you selling out your country based on your silly political party.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Dictator means 'rules by fiat' that's what Obama did in Libya. By definition that means he's a dictator. He's just still consolidating power.

          • trickyblain

            Will he be a dictator when the USC strikes down his health care plan? By your own definition, no. A dictator "rules by fiat" on all his policy decisions.

            You sound like you're talking about Darth Sidious. It's really silly.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            If he rules by 'fiat' even once, then by definitions he's a dictator. This president has ignored the rule of law and the checks and balances since his election. Remember the contempt of court citation on the gulf drilling policies? Probably not, the media ignored that one. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-02-03/u-s-admi

            How many examples do you need?

          • trickyblain

            If that is your brightline, every American president since Washington can be considered a dictator. A dictator rules by fiat, period. Absolute power. A dictator overrules courts and congress by fiat, if he chooses not to execute them — which he can if he wishes. Obama, Bush not dictators. Lincoln? Debatable.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            No, its' not even alleged. Nixon in part was impeached because he didn't spend money budgeted by congress. Limited powers with checks and balances have never been ignored like this. Don't you recall Penetta testifying before congress last week saying that Obama needed the UN approval for war, not congresses?
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aecXpZPhrrM

            That is the act of an administration ruling by fiat and ignoring our constitution.

          • trickyblain

            The Alien and Sedition Act? The Louisiana Purchase? The war against succession? Line-item vetoes? Signing statements? The undeclared wars in Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan and dozens of others all over the the Caribbean and Asia?

            If the Constitution okays these, let me know where. Retiring for the night. Been fun, Roger — have a good one.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Go back a bit. Don't just throw things out and expect me to take them at face value, you don't understand any of them if you think it points towards dictatorship.

            Drive by trolls you are so similar.

            Just because you say something doesn't make it reality or reasonable. You're not just wrong in fact, but in approach.

          • trickyblain

            Who's driving by?

            "you don't understand any of them if you think it points towards dictatorship"

            Which, of course, is excatly the opposite of what I am saying. None of our presidents, Obama included, are or have been dictators.

            "Just because you say something doesn't make it reality or reasonable."

            Like you saying Obama is a dictator makes it true? even though the accepted definition rejects it?

            dic-tat-or (n) a person exercising absolute power, especially a ruler who has absolute, unrestricted control in a government without hereditary succession.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            And your point is wrong, Obama is ruling by decree, a dictator.

            Ask the Catholics fighting to avoid paying for birth control pills. Ask the oil drillers unable to drill in the gulf, as the Libyans who were bombed, ask the congress who panetta spoke to three weeks ago.

            Your point isn't factual.

    • trickyblain

      Modern Europe is modeled on the American mold, guy. You have constitutions that guarantee freedoms — of press, of religion — of the very basic ability to speak your mind without fear of reprisal by the gov't. You listen to rock. You listen to jazz. You listen to hip-hop. You imitate rock, jazz and hi-hop (horribly). You wear American-style clothes (if you can't afford Italian, that is). Your very existence as a free population is owed to the United States military.

      The internet you are reading this post on was made possible by Americans. The tomatoes that are a staple in your fine cuisine? Yep. Came from America.

      I love very much about European culture — but most of it was invented like 2-300 years ago. We are not perfect and we have done terrible things. But nothing that compares with the historical deeds of compliant Europeans.

      Learn some respect, or we will bomb the hell out of you ;)

      • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

        You aren't factual, yet again.
        America didn't' force any mold on anyone. And their governments aren't based on our system.

        Parliamentary systems have significant differences.

  • Ghostwriter

    Well,Guy from Europe,or should I say,Pinhead from Europe,I've got a question for you. Would you rather have a strong America that will help you out when you need it or would you rather us leave you at the tender mercies of Russia,China,and Iran? Or is your anti-Americanism overwhelming your diminished mental faculties?

    • reader

      Well, it's definitely a troll, and I doubt that it's actually from "europe" per se.

    • Guy from Europe

      American propaganda about "friendship". Your troops are still occupaing my country since WW2. United Europe is more wealthy has larger population and much more technologically advanced then USA. If we form Alliance with new Russia and gain access to their resourses and military capabilities A Big Europe will be a new superpower. So we prefer Russia.

      • Ghostwriter

        I doubt that many in Europe would want something like that. Especially those in Eastern Europe who have memories of what Russian or what was then Soviet rule was like. From what I've heard of Vladimir Putin,he's not a very nice guy. Why would you want a lunatic like Putin as an ally? Or are you so anti-American that you've forgotten what the Soviet Union was like?

        • Guy from Europe

          I often go to Crech republic and never noticed that citizens have anyting agains Russians who already bought all property there. Politicians grown by US – maybe, but their time is gone. If you still don't know Russia is a capitalist state for 20 years already and they don't have troops in our countries. You do. And they have money and it's a pleasure to make buisness with them. And Putin has no quarrels with Europe, only with US. And not he alone. Many countries are scared of you. You are a ruthless Empire of Evil in the eyes of many many people. I will tell yo more, Putin is pretty popular here. In this hard times he is a strong leader and many of us want someone the same.

          • Ghostwriter

            Well,Guy from Europe,I hope you like Putin,up until he arrests you on a phony charge and sends you to jail and get beaten up by his thugs then who'll you blame? Probably still America. Or are you a Putin fan,spreading his putrid doctrine everywhere you go?

          • Guy from Europe

            I've been to Russia and didn't notice any totalitarism. Cheap Internet, many TV channels on cabel including CNN and euronews people in the streets are well dressed and are not afraid to talk about Putin. They have several parties in parlament more than you in senate and debates on TV. So I didn;t notice much difference from my own country at all. Except awful car jams on the streets.

          • Guy from Europe

            Ghostwriter try yourself. Peterburg is a very beautifull city.

          • Ghostwriter

            There are Russians who live in America,many of them don't like Putin. They also wouldn't like you,since you're his biggest fan.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            I guess not all Russians are dummies.

            At least you have to give Putin this much credit. He's actually loyal to the country he's leading, you can't say that much for Obama.

          • trickyblain

            So, move to Russia where you are happy with leadership, commie.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            My my, what a straw man argument.
            Did you realize you weren't getting anyplace with a fair and legit debate on things?

            And Putin is more loyal to his country than Obama is to ours. Have you heard of Putin going on any apology tours? Obama has.

          • trickyblain

            If Putin is more loyal, and you value loyalty, and you feel that our current leader is not loyal, how is it a strawman? Leaders should not give apologies — even Russians. They have nothing to reflect on at all. They "deserve credit" for totally ignoring the past. National leaders should be like cheerleaders! Chanting bimbos are exactly what we need!

            (the "commie" part was a cheap shot — my bad.)

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You should have understood I was not so much valuing Putin's loyalty as insulting and pointing out Obama's lack of it.

          • trickyblain

            Indeed, it is.

          • trickyblain

            "In this hard times he is a strong leader and many of us want someone the same."

            Oh — you're German! We've heard that from Germans before….care to guess?

      • trickyblain

        Are American troops in your country ransacking towns and doing terrible things? For the sake of the US taxpayer, it's probably time for them to leave. But if your words predict a resurgence of your people's violent, genocidal history, perhaps there's a reason we are staying. Remember the reason they are there. Your country killed millions upon millions of innocent civilians and tried to spread the hate to all of Europe, Africa and Asia. And the German people loved Hitler for it.

        Are not Germans supposed to hate Russians — who did the same? To your country? Your grandfather is spinning in his grave, guy.

        • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

          Why do you think you can throw out those charges and have us pretend they're real?

          Our troops don't behave that way. We have the most careful rules of engagement. Why don't you talk about the muslim militants that constantly violate the geneva conventions?

          • trickyblain

            Re-read my posts to guy. I'm not throwing out charges, I'm illustrating that the troops stationed in Germany are not "ransacking towns and doing terrible things."

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            I reread them and you made a statement about our troops being in that country and ransacking towns. So, I stand behind my comments and don't even demand you ready the last 6 months of mine to understand where I'm coming from.

            If you want to use sarcasm, you could either compose it in a way that makes it clear, or perhaps label it in the pretense. But you didn't do either.

          • trickyblain

            "You made a statement about our troops being in that country and ransacking towns."

            Wrong. I made no statement. I asked a question (Are American troops in your country ransacking towns and doing terrible things?). A question is not a statement, it's a question. And the question was so obviously rhetorical that it really needs no explaination.

            Just can't admit when you are wrong.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Strange when you said this : "Are American troops in your country ransacking towns and doing terrible things? For the sake of the US taxpayer, it's probably time for them to leave." I didn't see any question mark after it.

            A sentence with a period is a statement. A sentence with a question mark is usually a question.

            You can't admit when you are wrong. (or stupid as the case may be)

          • trickyblain

            Yes."For the sake of the US taxpayer, it's probably time for them to leave" is a statement in support of sound fiscal policy and indicating that the mission is long accomplished with the demise of the USSR. It's clearly not a statement accusing troops of ransacking towns.

            Your inability to comprehend 6th grade level writing makes you an odd candidate to be hurling accusations of stupidity.

            I'm through with you.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            So, you admit you write in 6th grade level style.
            You think that they no longer want us dead or harbor other terrorists who do?

            That was what brought us to Afghanistan to begin with.

            Your Ron Paulian cowardice and weakness won't be appreciated by the muslim militants as anything other than a chance to pounce on the world wide caliphate bandwagon.

            Do you realize how it echo's the Byzantine death? Does history mean anything to you?

        • Guy from Europe

          Russians left our country 20 years ago when Cold War officially ended. Why are you still here?
          We faught with Russians in 2 world wars and we respect them. My grandfather survived Stalingrad but he never hated Russians. And you americans used to bomb us. Munich. Do you get it? My ancestors dyed from your bombs while they were common citizens, not soldiers.
          I admit Hitler's crimes, but I am surprised you want me to hate Russians. Were they cruel? Yes. But at least they had a good reason for this. And you bobmbed our cities without any reason, just to scary us.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            The USSR collapsed, we haven't yet.

            But Obama is working on it as fast as he can.

  • Boston

    Looks like the moron thinks if he types the same thing in 50 times, he'll be right. What a tool.

  • WilliamJamesWard

    This 'Guy from Europe' must have been reading "Dreams of Obama"………..we do get bad press
    because of him and trolls are not the brightest, probably Eric Holder at his computer……….William

    • Guy from Europe

      All your presidents are controlled by FED. No difference Obama, Bush or somebody else, all do the same things. Your election system is obsolete and not democratic. Bankers have billions bonuses while people loose jobs. No matter who wins new elections, this policy will be continued.

      • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

        Thank goodness we have leadership once in a while like Reagan then.

        • Guy from Europe

          Reagan is a man most responsible for current situation. Study his Reaganomic – the time when all this credit bacchanal began.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You really are a hate filled person, aren't you?

          • Guy from Europe

            No. I have friends in US and I think that your country did really good things for humanity in the past. But not now. It is a way of all Empires. At first they bring progress but at the end of lifecycle they are a burden for the world.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Our dictator isn't our shining moment.

            But there are people resisting and working to toss him from office.

          • Guy from Europe

            Toss FED? I doubt you can do it. Not now anyway. But ofcouse the hope is always alive.
            Like all Empires US will transform to normal state in time, but the danger is that no big wars happened during this process.
            In future your role will be in an Alliance of US and Big Europe (including former USSR) agains rising Asia. But only if you don't burry this world in the agony of dying empire.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You know nothing of which you speak.

            You're making up theory and have no examples in history. We're not an empire, the only foreign land we asked for in Europe after the last wars was for our dead. The rest is leased, we pay for it.

            And as world powers decline, it brings collapse and chaos, like when Rome fell.

            You may pretend to know things, but I don't think I agree with that assumption.

          • Guy from Europe

            We lived in Pax Americana last years, no? You are an empire, the most powerfull in History and the much of World is your colonies. 5 yeasr ago you started your trip to crush. This is a historical process it can't be stopped.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Just saying that doesn't make it true.

            We are not an empire in the classic sense. Saying it over and over only makes you sound like a turrets patient.

        • Stephen_Brady

          Thank goodness we don't have a democracy, but rather, a Constitutional Republic. Europe will catch up in about 200 years!

      • WilliamJamesWard

        You don't say, well I am betting on a different man in our White House changing what depredations
        Obama has caused and a different Congress to dig America out of the hole the Democrats have
        put us in. Our election system is obsolete? it has flaws due to Democrats cheating but where the law
        is honored it is a one man one vote system……….Europe is about to become the land of the
        new Seventh Century due to Islamist colonization, hopefully America will stop that from happening
        here before Obama types bend us all over a prayer rug and ride us like dogs…………..William

        • Guy from Europe

          Not Obama started your debt problems, remember? So it is strange you blame him. But I don't care actualy I think Obama, Bush, Maccein all are the same puppets.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            He said the whole that democrats put us in. You simply don't know our situation well enough to be an informed commenter here on it.

            Johnson a liberal democrat started the entire war on poverty. It was democrats that started medicare and medicaid, and food stamps and the other things breaking the bank.

            How is that for pointing out your intellectual gaps? Or can a puppet give an answer to that?

          • trickyblain

            And still, there was no deficit.

            The Reagan lowered the top tax rate by over half, then started the borrowing trend in US fiscal policy to make up the gap. Are you familiar with the concept that borrowing more than you take in leads to debt, Rodger?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            What do you mean there was no deficit?
            They took the trust fund for social security and filled it with IOU's. That's debt.

            Accounting tricks only go so far, and it's about time that the piper needs to be paid. Then where do your talking points make a difference?

          • trickyblain

            I mean that there was no deficit until Reagen started the practice of borrowing from foreign nations to finance tax cuts for the top bracket while dramatically increasing spending. Was I not clear?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You're either a liar or just ignorant.

            And Congress decides on the spending, you need to thank Tip O'Neal for that deficit.

          • trickyblain

            I'm not a liar — prove me wrong and I'll readily admit it and thank you for telling me something I didn't know. But you are a self-important gasbag who won't ever admit you are wrong.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Why would I admit I'm wrong. Do you know that The House originates all spending? Who was speaker of the house under Reagan?

            Tip O'Neal.

            Who took Social Security from a trust fund to a IOU for the general fund? http://www.conservapedia.com/Social_Security#Pres

            Speaking of self important gas bags that won't admit when they're wrong… what is the weather like on the liberal plantation?

    • reader

      It's a troll, and chances are that it is a russian troll. So, it's technically is not lying but it's lying nevertheless. Typical "nashist" tripe.

      • WilliamJamesWard

        Convoluted and misleading at best, some claims may be true but only to misdirect and misinform,
        I wonder if nashist is short for nastisheist……………………William

        • Guy from Europe

          I don't know what "nashist" means but if it means nazi then you are just an arrogant fool.

          • reader

            Not quite but close. But this post of yours is the proof that either you don't know anything about Russia and its relations with East Europeans in particular, or you're a liar. A troll in any case.

          • Guy from Europe

            You've invented some new only you understand word and now blaming me ignorant troll cause I don't know the meening. Ridiculous. Try something else lout.

          • reader

            Really?
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nashism_(disambiguat

            I guess, you are an ignorant troll after all, eh?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Yes, he is. But they are stuck on stupid and just keep repeating the talking points Goebbels style.

  • Guy from Europe

    Nice, admins delete comments about Ron Paul. Democratic state, LOL.

  • Guy from Europe

    Try again. Regan was just an actor and he didn't realized what he did. While his presidentship FED completely took control and now feeding you with stories about foreign enemies while your true enemies are you own elite.
    The only independent candidate is Ron Paul, but FED will never allow him to be a president or even a candidate.

    • Stephen_Brady

      That's Reagan, not "Regan". If you are going to make reference to one of our leaders, at least have the courtesy to spell his name correctly.

      Next, the word is "presidency". Not "presidentship" …

      It might be good to add an article before the acronymn "FED", as in "the Fed".

      Finally, Ron Paul will never be President, although his son might, some day (if he loses his father's zany ideas on foreign and military policy). But he is already a candidate, having won some 50 delegates to the GOP Convention.

      By the way, did you notice the article "the" before the acronymn "GOP"? Learn something useful, like English grammar, spelling, and punctuation, if you are going to regularly troll on an English-language forum!

  • Guy from Europe

    No I don't. The fact is that you surround Russia and China with military bases and missile defence. Why? And I care much that in case of war Russian nukes will first fall on Europe to destroy your bases.

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

      So, you won't admit you admitted your argument is failed, and then revert to earlier talking points on an entirely different area of discussion.

      Failed, and owned.

    • Rifleman

      What missile defense? And what leads you to believe we would initiate a nuclear attack on either Russia or China, short of a nuclear attack from either on the USA? The soviets were the ones that predicated their existence on our destruction, came up with the 60% and go doctrine (and we never had anything like it), and I doubt you'd care for the mad mullah's idea of acceptable losses to initiate a first strike any better than the soviets'.

      • Guy from Europe

        Becouse you will have a chance to nuke them without counteratack. And in history you already nuked Japan. Soviets never used nukes on people.

        • Rifleman

          As I've explained, no we won't have such a chance. To nuke them without fear of nuclear counterattack would require thousands of interceptors, and quadrupling our offensive weapons.

  • Ghostwriter

    Fool from Europe,why are you such a fan of an Israel-hating,isolationist anti-semite like Ron Paul? We've got enough problems without a mullah-loving twit like Paul in the White House. America needs leaders who live in the real world,not those who live in the Land of Oz like you,President Obama,and Ron Paul.

    • Ghostwriter

      I'm American,Pinhead from Europe,I just don't like dictators like Putin. So please,take your vile,America hating comments and depart. There are people in Europe who are probably less obnoxious than you are.

  • Guy from Europe

    A lout you are. Actually I don't know and don't care much what Paul says about Israel, why should I? Anyway it is your president not mine and all I know about Paul is that he fights against FED. But I don't understand why you do care about Israel? Are you a citizen of USA or Israel?
    Or maybe you are just in a team of FED guys?

  • Guy from Europe

    Was a pretty nice chat but time to go sleep.

    • Stephen_Brady

      Time to go TO sleep.

      Is your name Abdul, by any chance? Or are you just a garden-varieity Euro-socialist troll?

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

      Don't let the door hit your backside on the way out.

    • Guest

      How's that economic/financial cliff looking for Europe, Guy?

      • Anonymous

        If it wasn't for Obama and the FEDs giving you hundreds of $billions to bailout your own banks, you'd be begging right now for scraps. Better hope you're in Germany because the rest of the Euro nations are going to be bankrupt and looking for either Deutschemarks or US dollars to save them. Strange how 70 years can change a european's perspective regarding Germany, but when your own country is bankrupt due to thriftless spending…. I hear the Middle East countries are making plenty of money right now to loan you.

  • Saltire

    If he is normally talking in this manner about the U.S. policy when he thinks he is off mic, what other accommodations/manipulations is he attempting that will jeopardize our country when he is actually off mic.

  • http://www.maghrebchristians.com/ Youssef

    The most recent cyber-attack in Tunisia took down the website of the Ministry of Justice this morning, and a group claiming affiliation with the loose international collective Anonymous has taken credit for the action on its Facebook page.

    The attack was motivated by alleged aggression on the part of the Tunisian National Guard against protesters at the Minister of Transitional Justice and Human Rights, who were protesting against neglect of the martyrs and wounded of the Tunisian Revolution.

    Read more: http://www.maghrebchristians.com/2012/03/28/group

    Youssef

  • Western Spirit

    I don't know whether Obama is a Muslem or not, his fruits would indicate he is and his treatment of Israel, but I do know the change he had in mind is unfolding as a Leftist and destructive to America.

    Because why should a shield against Russia be a thorn in Russia's side if Russia didn't intend to attack us in the future and Obama is discussing its demise altogether.

  • Long Ben

    Is OBAMA! a quisling or what ? In addition there will be no nuke free world until Messiah returns to Reign on King Davids throne , and OBAMA! is not him . Besides , how are we to hold off Chinas' capability for a 200 million man army without a nuclear deterrent ?

  • reader

    "We already have thousands of muslim refugees becouse of your endless oil wars."

    Really? I thought europe has millions of muslim immigrants because of the suicidal doctrine of multiculturalism, demographic collapse and self-destructing immigration policy. Keep digging your head deeper into your rear end and see if it works any better.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Cut and paste for third rate comments is all you have?

    How sad. Public union school teachers taught you just enough to make you look stupid.

  • mlcblog

    You sound quite bitter and resentful. Blame us for all your troubles? not gonna work over here. You made your own bed.

  • Stephen_Brady

    "No, thanks. We already have thousands of muslim refugees becouse of your endless oil wars …"

    You didn't have to let the Muslims… did you say "refugees"? I thought they were "immigrants" to your wonderful multicultural societies … into your countries, did you? And if we went to war for their oil, we sure blew that one, didn't we? …

    I think that I could have done a better job of creating an empire than our Presidents, post WWII. When you go to war for oil, you take the oil, son. You don't let them sell it to you at a higher price. And when pirates attack your ships, you shoot them. Empires and pirates are not compatible. Only the empires get to be pirates.

    Actually, we haven't yet begun building our empire. When we do, you will know it …

  • flyingtiger

    we produce military and food. What more do you need to be a world power? He who controls food controls everything. China and Russia only make trinkets. We can make Iphones and we have lots of computer programmers. America's best days are ahead of her.