A Lawsuit Only Jihadists Could Love

Robert Spencer is the director of Jihad Watch and author of the New York Times bestsellers The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam (and the Crusades) and The Truth About Muhammad. His latest book, Arab Winter Comes to America: The Truth About the War We're In, is now available.


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Recently the mainstream media made much of revelations that the New York City Police Department (NYPD) had been conducting surveillance of Muslims in New York and New Jersey, including members of the Muslim Brotherhood-linked Muslim Students Association. After an investigation cleared the NYPD of any wrongdoing and established the complete legality of the program, an Islamic supremacist group in New Jersey is trying a different tactic to shut this surveillance down: they’ve brought suit trying to ban surveillance based on religion – a lawsuit that only Islamic jihadists could love.

“They don’t have the right to spy and do surveillance on innocent people, on good citizens,” huffed an imam in Newark, Abdul Kareem Muhammad. He added: “This surveillance, this spying, without question, was unjustified. And it was definitely, without doubt, an invasion of our civil, human and our constitutional rights.”

Contrary to Muhammad’s assertions, an investigation actually uncovered no NYPD wrongdoing: New Jersey State Attorney Jeffrey Chiesa undertook a three-month-long investigation of the NYPD for its surveillance of Muslims in New Jersey and cleared the Department of any wrongdoing. New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, an energetic proponent of the Ground Zero Mosque, and Police Commissioner Ray Kelly maintain that the program is necessary and falls within legal bounds.

Likewise, when asked about the legality of the program, the NYPD’s Deputy Commissioner of Public Information, Paul Browne responded: “I refer you to the New Jersey AG’s report and to the fact that NYPD activities in New Jersey were lawful, appropriate and in keeping with efforts there, in New York, and around the world to prevent terrorists from returning here to kill more New Yorkers.”

But preventing terrorists from killing more New Yorkers, as well as New Jerseyites, is apparently not a high priority for Muslim Advocates, which describes itself as “a legal resource to promote the full and meaningful participation of Muslims in American public life.” Farhana Khera, the executive director of Muslim Advocates, appears aware of how the group’s suit looks as if Muslims are trying to impede legitimate counterterror efforts, and insists that “all Americans, including American Muslims, care deeply about our safety and security.”

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  • Malcolm

    “They don’t have the right to spy and do surveillance on innocent people, on good citizens.”
    Well, I'm an innocent person and a good citizen too, but I imagine if the police believed I was involved in criminal activities they would spy, and do surveillance, on me – at least until they discovered their suspicions were groundlesss. It would be a pain, and an inconvenience, of course, but the police often suspect the wrong people. It is only by investigating them all that their suspicions get narrowed down to the right person.

    • esatire

      I was thinking that this one single quote destroys their entire claim.
      If we were dealing with good citizens, there wouldn't be a need for surveillance (nor would there be a lawsuit by a seditious, foreign paid group backing them up).

  • crackerjack

    Sounds like the NYPD is mutating into some form of self declared political secret state police. Is every local police force now eligible to screen their population on grounds of religious belief of ideological stance? Welcome to the Soviet Union!

    This is a lawsuit that everyone who respects the First Ammendment's "Freedom of Religion", should welcome. If the surveillance of citizens is to be based solely on their religion, the First Ammendment's religious rights must be revised and ultimately abrogated to render this practice legal.

    Strange that a nation that goes viral to protect its freedom against a health reform bill is so oblivious and silent when the cornerstones of its constitution are pushed under the bus. Even stranger that it takes a handfull of Muslim lunatics to put the finger in the wound.

    • WildJew

      This matter of the First Amendment, to the effect that Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof. I must remind my Constitution-minded neighbors, America's (gifted) Founders were not prophets. Do you think they had any idea, one day America and the West would be under assault through a literal interpretation of a religious ideology? Maybe Jefferson gradually came to understand the threat from Islam but did he when the Bill of Rights was crafted?

      • Nat

        What about the First Amendment concept of "Compelling Interest" where the Supreme Court determines Islamic Supremacy and its resulting violence and terrorism is of "Compelling Interest" that this form of extremism is not covered by the First Amendment?
        Any Constitutional Scholars care to opine?

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      • scum

        No, but I'm sure they could prophecy submachine guns in the hand of gang members, protected by the NRA.

      • crackerjack

        Nonsense. At the time the US Constitution was penned, Islamic Osmania was a major world power, standing at the gates of Europe and dominating the Mediterranean. The founding fathers obviously saw no reason to treat Islam different than any other religion.

        • Sage on the Stage

          "At the time the US Constitution was penned, Islamic Osmania was a major world power, standing at the gates of Europe and dominating the Mediterrean." Exactly what was "Islamic Osmania?" and where was it? Your next sentence, "The founding fathers obviously saw no reason to treat Islam different than any other religion," is even more ridiculous.

    • curmudgeon

      right cracker. those police should go back to patrolling the donut shop, and leave those innocent muslims alone. perhaps they should be investigating the methodists, or the franciscans, or the lions club: known dens of terrorism, but surely they should not be investigating islam, the source of 99% or all terrorism. anyone that proposes that the jihadis are a "handful of muslim lunatics" is either lying, or willfully ignorant. which is it cracker? lying, or willfully ignorant? i say you are lying to cover up the goals and tactics of your evil "religion".

      • scum

        "Evil Religion." Careful, too close to bigotry.

        • curmudgeon

          sorry, scum. i usually protect the tender sensibilities of our dhimmis by writing "religion of peace" instead of "religion of pure evil". it means the same thing, but keeps the slaves quiet. if i slip up and write "religion of pure evil", just think "religion of peace". meanwhile, keep submitting to the superior religion, and they might continue to keep you in slave status while they are killing the patriots. your time will come.

        • Martin Koschuttnig

          the term "Evil Religion" may only be applied to scientology, the mormons, the moonies (feel free to add to the list) BUT NEVER to the religion which almost on a daily basis shows the inherited "evil" it produces.

          • curmudgeon

            no. scientology, mormon, and moonies is just pure comic relief. no harm there. actually, no different from methodism, catholicism, judaism, etc. all harmless, and founded on a basis of pure bullchit.

        • SCREW SOCIALISM

          "Evil Religion." Careful, too close to bigotry"?

          9/11

          Too close to the truth?

    • Ted G

      Bull cookies, religious freedom does not include any religious doctrine that calls for murder or any of the other of the myriad and insane things that islam calls for.

      You can't simply say this is a religious freedom issue while ignoring the teachings of islam.

      And you also cannot excuse islam for any of these things it does teach and espouse by throwing around the term religious freedom and expect us all to simply nod our heads in agreement, this is the problem and you are part of it!

      • crackerjack

        ………….read your Bible Ted. Its full of calls for murder, decapitation, rape and slaughter of all whom "The Lord" dislikes.

        • SCREW SOCIALISM

          crackerjerk, But how many people act to carry out those calls in the Bible?

          Compare that to the number of people who carry out calls to kill based on passages in the Koran.

        • Bob

          The bible calls for pre Christ Israelites to keep sin out of the Israeli camp, the Quran calls for the murder of every "infidel" you can find

        • Ted G

          When you find christian priests and ministers calling for the murder of anyone not christian and when you find people pouring out of sunday masses and then going on rampages thru the "Others" neighborhoods burning and murdering, when you find that I'll help you go after those priests and church members until then will you help me go after all these islamic clerics and their brain dead followers?

    • Jack

      Pretty simple. NYPD should also have surveillance on Churches, Temples and Synagogues. Nobody can then complain of religious profiling.

      • Ted G

        Hey Jack,

        See my answer to crackerjack above!

  • SCREW SOCIALISM

    The "Blind Sheik" Abdel Rahman, CONVICTED and serving a LIFE-SENTENCE for his role in the 1993 truck bombing of the World Trade Center.

    Authorities are looking for al qada and muslim brotherhood sleeper cells.

    This wouldn't be necessary if mosques would not be fronts for Wahabbi, Salfi terror cells.

    Londons 7/7/05 transport bombings were committed by BRITISH Muslims.

    The Fort Hood massacre was committed by an AMERICAN born Muslim.

    Islamofascists want to be able to plot and carry out attacks on the US, unfettered by the authorities but the US has not been and will NEVER be overrun by socialists.

  • WildJew

    I watched Laura Ingraham (sitting in for Bill O'Reilly) interview Ahmed Rehab, Executive Director of CAIR-Chicago
    http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/oreilly/index.html#

    Click on: "NYPD sued over Muslim spying program"

    Ingham made the statement early-on to the effect that American Muslims are "overwhelming law abiding." Rehab seized on Ingraham's assertion, repeating it at least twice.

    I do not assume American Muslims are overwhelmingly law-abiding or peaceful. I hear anecdotal evidence from friends that my Muslim neighbors (who publicly repudiated the 9/11 attacks) believe in a Jewish world conspiracy, hate Israel, etc. Are these peaceful Muslims? I remember the spontaneous Muslim demonstrations here in the U.S. during Israel's Operation Cast Lead which was a response to thousands of Hamas rockets fired from Gaza on Israel's cities (December 2008 – Jan. 2009). There is a video on Youtube where a Ft. Lauderdale Muslim woman is seen yelling, "Jews go back to the ovens."

    Is it possible folks like Laura Ingraham, Bill O'Reilly and other Fox News analysts assume American Muslims are overwhelmingly law-abiding and peaceful – unlike Muslims in some other countries – because American Muslims do not (yet) possess the political and numerical strength they have in England, France, etc. to appear otherwise?

    • StephenD

      WildJew, You are EXACTLY right my friend. Studies have been done and once they reach somewhere around the 15-20% mark (in population) they begin to assert themselves. i.e. In France, blocking off streets for prayer…like that is necessary! And getting away with it! I wonder how that would go over here; attempting to interrupt the flow of commerce and someone, who is Legally on the street, has their foot slip off the brake and another person, who is not in a cross walk, gets injured or killed.

      • richard handwerk

        did that here in nyc; madison ave.
        would be interesting to see if it was a catholic prayer vigil. how quickly they would have put a stop to it.

    • richard handwerk

      i believe they are given certain guidelines from the higher ups at fox. they dare not
      deviate from this propaganda. it is not as if they own the network. they are paid employees in the end.

      • WildJew

        Good point. Diana West and others report: "Prince Alwaleed bin Talal owns the second-largest block of stock (7 percent) in News Corp., Fox News' parent company…."

        "Did Saudi Prince Buy Fox's Silence?"
        http://townhall.com/columnists/dianawest/2012/02/

    • richard handwerk

      i believe they are given certain guidelines from the higher ups at fox. they dare not
      deviate from this propaganda. it is not as if they own the network. they are paid employees in the end.

    • Chezwick

      I had a Muslim neighbor about 10 years ago who was as seemingly Americanized as a Muslim could be. He'd been in the country for twenty-some tears, was hip to the musical scene, the culture in general, the language of our typical expressions, etc. He was obviously – so I thought – one of the good guys.

      One day, we were having a casual conversation in the front yard as neighbors do, when the Middle-East came up (probably by me). He made a comment that startled me. Now this was shortly after the invasion of Iraq, and he said that the USA was working on Israel's behalf, helping the Israelis to "take over the Middle-East from the Euphrates to the Nile." If anyone remembers, this was standard Islamo-Leftist boiler-plate back then.

      I protested vehemently, reminding him that Israel had withdrawn from both the Sinai and southern Lebanon (the Gaza withdrawal would not come for another couple of years)….hardly the actions of an expansionist power. He seemed taken aback both by my vehemence and by my unexpected understanding of the recent history of the region…and he quickly back-tracked, agreeing with me.

      He kept his distance from me from that point on until he eventually moved…and I had a new appreciation of appearances when it came to so-called "moderate" Muslims.

    • curmudgeon

      they are getting there, wild. according to TROP, under the heading ISLAMIC SATURATION INDEX, the trend is this:
      From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the popul
      When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions ( Paris –car-burnings). Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and threats ( Amsterdam – Mohammed cartoon.
      After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning:
      At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare:
      From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels.
      After 80% expect State run ethnic cleansing and genocide.
      the sad example you cite is why i dont watch fox. fox may be more fair and balanced than msnbc, but it still sucks. it is media. they just cant help promoting our enemies.

  • http://www.maghrebchristians.com Youssef

    On Egyptian television on a Liberal talk show called ‘Egypt today’, Tawfiq Okasha showing a video of a young Tunisian man who has converted to Christianity being slaughtered for his faith

    Read more: http://www.maghrebchristians.com/2012/06/08/musli

    Youssef

  • richard handwerk

    we need 'covert' operations where they are 'really' covert.

    need to know basis.

    black op.
    the hell w/bloomberg, & the rest…

    • scum

      Suddenly, the Constitution doesn't matter to the 'Constitutionalists.'

      • SCREW SOCIALISM

        Suddenly "anti-war" doesn't matter to "anti-war" activists when their man in Damascus murders 14,000+ people.

  • Schlomotion

    If the NYPD were surveilling Jews simply because "they are Jewish and might be engaged in terrorist activities" you had better believe that rabbis would be in the street rending their garments, and people would be writing letters and doing op eds demanding that Mayor Bloomberg put a stop to the "pogrom" by the "Gestapo" that is "singling out Jews alone" for the "canard" of terrorism. Any Jew on the police force who did the surveillance would be a "kapo" and any Jew who actually reported an act of terrorism would be a "moser." However, since this surveillance enfranchises Jews and disenfranchises Muslims, Frontpage is all in favor of it and cut Robert Spencer a check to vilify its detractors.

    • RoguePatriot6

      Your argument may have some truth to it however you seem to overlook the fact that their are no armed groups of Jews slaughtering and killing Muslims who pose no threat to them. There aren't any Jews kidnapping and raping Muslims in the name of God and Jewish Jihadist conquest.

      • Schlomotion

        Not in the United States, though, Irv Rubin and Earl Krugel still ring in recent memory for trying to murder Conservative Republican Senator Darrell Issa with pipe bombs. Shortly thereafter Benjamin Netanyahu indelibly marked history by threatening that if the US does not give a more favorable foreign policy to Israel, "the buses are going to start blowing up in the United States soon."

        • Zionista

          with any luck, your dhimmi ass will be on one

          • Schlomotion

            So, let me get this straight, you are a Jew who lives vicariously through the terrorist acts of Muslims?

          • Zionista

            You are an unabashed Jew hater, with a perverse and twisted compulsion to single out Jews and Israel for demonization. Everyone on this site with at least a few brain cells sees that. You expose and out yourself with each sick rant.

          • Schlomotion

            Do you know that you are generating the stereotype that Jews claim to be singled out when they get caught doing bad stuff? It's perfectly natural to single someone out when you see them doing something wrong. Like yourself for example. You were just cheerleading Islamic terrorism. Am I supposed to include a Mexican, a Black person and a Chinese grandmother in my criticism of you just so that you'll feel better camouflaged?

          • intrcptr2

            Considering that you are nearly apoplectic about the NYPD's irretrievably legal "surveilance" of Mohammadens in NJ, yes, you MUST include a random pick of utterly innocuous folks to camouflage your true racism. Unless you're just that pleased with your own hypocrisy.

            And you might include this Gentile Zionist while you're at it, too.

          • Schlomotion

            I'm going to need more lime.

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            Sour puss.

        • JoJoJams

          Schlomo, talk about taking things out of context to twist it to fit your warped sense of reality! Netanyahu wasn't making the threat, as you espouse it! He was stating that if the U.S. join Israel in allowing them to go after the terrorists, and those that sponsor them, who blow up Israeli busses, then eventually "the busses are going to start blowing up in the United States". In short, it would be the muslim terrorists doing the blowing up of busses here in the states. And you know what? Some day, soon, it will be. It's only a matter of time… But keep twisting reality to fit your b.s. ideologies! You make a great spokesman for the loony left!

          • Schlomotion

            I'll throw down a bet that Netanyahu will be in a medically induced coma for stroke hatred before buses start blowing up in the US. Any takers?

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            Schmucky, You better get back on your Prozac.

        • WildJew

          You wrote: "Shortly thereafter Benjamin Netanyahu indelibly marked history by threatening that if the US does not give a more favorable foreign policy to Israel, "the buses are going to start blowing up in the United States soon."

          Can you provide a some documentation? A link maybe. This is a new one to me.

          • Schlomotion

            I don't have the video. JoJoJams is right in saying that the exact phrasing of Netanyahu's warning was that "the busses are going to start blowing up in the United States" meaning that Netanyahu was not going to blow them up himself, but rather that "Muslims" will. It's still a threat though. Who is going to be able to tell the difference between some exploded bits of Muslim or "Urban Moving Systems" front companies run by Dominick Suter?

          • RoguePatriot6

            "It's still a threat though."

            A threat carried out by whom? It isn't the Jewish people that would do it.

          • Schlomotion

            I don't know that. Mossad trained the terror cell (People’s Mujahedin of Iran) that killed the Iranian nuclear scientists, including Majid Jamali Fashi. Plus there were these guys:
            http://www.erichufschmid.net/TFC/Bollyn-dancing-I

          • http://www.themadjewess.wordpress.com MAD JEWESS

            Iranian nuke scientists gone.. Well, boo hoo.
            I see this as being a lot more brilliant than bombing Iran.

            Either way, Schlomooooooooooo, its the damned JEWS and that is what you hate.
            If they dont go to war, they are cowards, if they DO go to war, they are war-mongers..Correct? Yes, it is correct.

            And, you, my friend are just a Jew hater. Sad. Unable to see anything else but just Jew hate is sickening.
            Sad.

            You just have no balance. ALL Jews are evil to you.
            So, read well- the thing you hate IS the thing you have become.

          • Schlomotion

            Like the black people that use "white racism" to hype themselves up that they are Gods, and like the feminists who use any action in the cosmos to say somebody just violated their Venusian shell bath, you like to say people hate Jews so that you can lather yourself up into something that is hated because it is misunderstood by jealous detractors. To what end? To misquote Marilyn Manson and Jewel to me?

          • http://www.themadjewess.wordpress.com MAD JEWESS

            It is immaterial to me if you love Jews or hate Jews. I dont care.

            But, your soul is a dark soul. You are unable to determine the 'wheat from the chaff.'
            You get up in the morning, you hate Jews.

            You go to sleep at night, you hate Jews. Good Jew, bad Jew, makes no difference to you.
            I see black people. Yes, there are a lot of black people that do wrong, but there are black people that do right and are good.
            Seems to me, the only Jew you like is a dead Jew. I dont feel that way about people at all.

            I find it sad that when people are swallowed up with something, they really have no life.
            I dont have to 'lather' myself up with anything.
            I just see that the thing you abhor, has become yourself. :( Sad.

          • Schlomotion

            I could deny your wrong perception, but why not roll with it. Let's suppose I have the darkest soul imaginable. What's the big deal? So what if I hate things and then I become them? It seems workable.

          • http://www.themadjewess.wordpress.com MAD JEWESS

            It is sad.
            The whole point of this life is that we would NOT want to become what we believed we hated.

            But, in essence, you have become that which you think you are warning everyone about, so, its futile.

            My perception is not wrong, it is truth. Having a dark soul will lead to much unhappiness.
            As much as I see you as being sad and unpleasant, I would not like to see you or other people unhappy.

            When one cannot separate bad from good, good from bad, then all is evil. And the person that suffers the most is the accuser, which is yourself.

            If you do not LOOK for good along WITH looking for the wrong, you are dim.
            Selah.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            I hear that Schlomotion is an Iranian nuclear scientist.

          • Schlomotion

            Tinnitus only gets worse.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Get out of the echo chamber and see the world.

        • SCREW SOCIALISM

          Schmucky,

          - 9/11
          - 1993 truck bombing of the WTC
          - Bombing of Pan Am 103
          - 7/7 2005 London transport bombings
          - Madrid train bombing
          - Bali bombing
          - Beslan school hijacking massacre
          - Mumbai India massacre
          - 2012 Toulouse France massacre
          - Saddam Husseins poison gas attack on the Kurds – 5,000 dead
          - assassination of US Senator Robert F. Kennedy
          - richard reid sneaker bomber
          - Nigerian underwear bomber
          - Times Square SUV bomber
          - Death fatwa on writer Salman Rushdie
          - Death threats on Danish cartoonists over pen and ink drawings
          - Near nuclear war between the Islamic Republic of Pakistan and India
          - Beheading of journalist Daniel Pearl
          - Various other kidnapping and video taped executions
          - $100 per barrel Oil – Thanks OPEC
          - $4 per gallon gasoline – Thanks OPEC
          - 8 year Iraq / Iran war
          - Genocidal death threats by the Islamic Republic of Iran
          - Death threats against Europe by Muslims living IN Europe – see British Muslism
          - Honor killings of Muslim girls over "family honor" in the US too
          - Murder of Dutch filmmaker Theo Van Gogh
          - Fort Hood massacre
          - Assad kkklan of Syria murder of over 9,000 Syrians AND the absence of "anti-imperialist", "anti-war" protests outside the Syrian consulate
          - attack on the 1972 Olympics and murder of atheletes
          - hijacking of the Achille Lauro and the murder of a wheelchair bound innocent
          - Current Day Slavery in Sudan (Darfur) and Mauritania
          - Empire State Building observation deck murders
          - Muslim-Only city of mecca in saudi arabia
          - wahabbi / salafi fascism
          - Luxor Egypt massacre of tourists
          - murder of Coptic Christians in Egypt
          - synagogue bombings in Turkey
          - church bombings in Nigeria
          - church bombings in Pakistan
          - mosque bombings in Iraq

          All the work of your "freedom fighters".

          Happy Eternal Nakba!

    • Ted G

      Yep…avoidance, misdirection and projection. Why don't we throw in a little obfuscation while we're at it, eh?
      Way to go there schlomo, didn't the muslim brotherhood put out a handbook on this crap?

      Your methods are quite transparent Schlomo.

    • Ghostwriter

      Once more,I have to set the record straight. It hasn't been Jews screaming for the deaths of Americans,it's been Muslims. Get it through your thick skull.

  • KKKK

    if the program is within legal grounds, as it apparently, is, then these islamic surpemists should not be doing naything baout it. they only want ot weaken our national security and bring sharia law to America.

    • RoguePatriot6

      Bingo!!!!

      I don't get it. What's so hard to understand?

      "We will destroy the U.S. and Western Civilization from within"

      They don't have freindly intentions nor do they want peace. Yet many are still arguing that it's "discrimination" and "it's not fair". It's mainly the lib/progs that do this because from what I can see both lib/progs and the Muslim Brotherhood have mutual interests. They both want to see this nation destroyed. What's kind of amusing, in a horrific way, is that once they achieve this, lib/progs will probably receive a residence in a mass grave as their reward for decades of eating and erroding this country's foundations and fundamental ideas. What's ironic is that the very things that they hate and try to discredit are the things that's protecting them from their destruction.

    • scum

      Wrong, Sharia is already here. It's called Waterboarding and 'Long Time Standing.'

      • SCREW SOCIALISM

        scummy,

        I'd waterboard you in the summer

        and snowboard you in the winter.

  • ealha3

    The settled law in America is that any organization openly advocating violence is illegal. This case should join the issue of American settled law with the mandates of the Koran advocating violence of its believers and followers to engage in violence to accomplish its objective of world domination by Islam. As with the Communist Party, those elements and individuals actively advocating violent overthrow of the government were legitmately investigated, prosecuted and convicted. If we had a competent legal system we would not be confusing religious exercise with advocating violent overthrow of our government – we would be prosecuting those believers and followers of this terrorist activity.

    • scum

      Actually, if you look at history, Communist Party rank and file were largely illegally detained and even deported. In the First Red Scare, the 'Red Special' train rounded up a number and took them to NYC. From there, after being unconstitutionally refused legal counsel, they were shipped overseas on the 'Soviet Ark.' That's just one example.

      • SCREW SOCIALISM

        Sounds good to me.

        Time for a 'Red/Green Alliance Ark' to set sail.

      • Drakken

        If your looking for sympath? I am fresh out. Please, if you are so in love with your jihadist friends in the sand box, go live with them and don't let the door hit you where the good lord split ya.

  • jonmc

    'Farhana Khera, the executive director of Muslim Advocates, appears aware of how the group’s suit looks as if Muslims are trying to impede legitimate counterterror efforts, and insists that “all Americans, including American Muslims, care deeply about our safety and security.”'
    I'm probably being very unkind here, but that statement of Khera's could be understood as referring to the safety of Muslims alone (our – us = Muslims), especially since 'she doesn’t care enough about our safety and security to refrain from bringing this suit.' But I'm probably being unfair, I'm sure that a bit of Kitman like that wasn't what she meant.

  • RiverFred

    Muslims make up around 2% of our population, the way they act and the problems they cause you would think they make up a majority in the U.S. as they are constantly in the news. Besides Obozo who in the hell let them in?

    • scum

      Fred, Get a life. "Muslims" doesn't mean they were "let in." It's a religion (fastest growing in the world), so many were …wait for it…born here. In addition, there's a little thing generally ignored by the Right, and it's called the Constitution. And amended to that document, one finds a few amendments. Check out the first one. . . . LOL

      • intrcptr2

        Nice try, punk.
        It was Jefferson who said that his neighbor's religion mattered nothing to him, SO LONG as he did nothing to harm him (My paraphrase). Each and every man who signed the Constitution would be standing in line to toss every last terrorist sympathizer off the long end of the short pier in the East River.

        There is, among those of us who can think straight, little doubt that Islam is not compatible with the Constitution, nor ought it be used to defend those who wish to destroy it.

      • SCREW SOCIALISM

        Yeah, "fastest growing" in prisons.

        There is nothing a "religion of peace" needs for street cred than gaining new followers convicted of rape, murder, theft.

      • YOLO40

        Another BS myth put out by muslims. More people leave islam every year than join it, This is from al azar. islam grows by birthrate only not by conversions. It also grows by the mass murder of non muslims EVERYDAY throughout the world. The growth of Christianity in China far out paces the growth of islam the world over.

        • Martin Koschuttnig

          On youtube one can find the lie that in Austria my native country in the last two years 500.000 Austrians converted to Islam and became Muslim. This is another example of how Muslims lie to their own brothers of faith. Yeah there are about that many Muslims here, but they moved here or were born here OVER well of 30 to 40 years!

      • Drakken

        To bad scummy our Constitution and our laws are not a suicide pact period, the day is coming where you are going to have to pick a side, your either with us? Or the muslims? There wil be no middle ground or understanding.

  • Beatrix

    Jews didn't bomb the World Trade Center. Twice.

    • Schlomotion

      No. They Bombed the King David Hotel.
      Orthodox Jews tried to bomb the Gay Parade in Jerusalem in 2007 and stabbed three people there in 2005.
      Eden Nathan Zaada shot up a busload of people in 2005.
      Then there was Yankel Rosenbaum, Irv Rubin, and Earl Krugel.

      All of these terrorists are Kahanists. Any Jews who are Kahanists are terrorist sympathizers.

      • SCREW SOCIALISM

        Schmucky,

        Perhaps you can tell us which group perpetrated the following:

        - 9/11
        - 1993 truck bombing of the WTC
        - Bombing of Pan Am 103
        - 7/7 2005 London transport bombings
        - Madrid train bombing
        - Bali bombing
        - Beslan school hijacking massacre
        - Mumbai India massacre
        - 2012 Toulouse France massacre
        - Saddam Husseins poison gas attack on the Kurds – 5,000 dead
        - assassination of US Senator Robert F. Kennedy
        - richard reid sneaker bomber
        - Nigerian underwear bomber
        - Times Square SUV bomber
        - Death fatwa on writer Salman Rushdie
        - Death threats on Danish cartoonists over pen and ink drawings
        - Near nuclear war between the Islamic Republic of Pakistan and India
        - Beheading of journalist Daniel Pearl
        - Various other kidnapping and video taped executions
        - $100 per barrel Oil – Thanks OPEC
        - $4 per gallon gasoline – Thanks OPEC
        - 8 year Iraq / Iran war
        - Genocidal death threats by the Islamic Republic of Iran
        - Death threats against Europe by Muslims living IN Europe – see British Muslism
        - Honor killings of Muslim girls over "family honor" in the US too
        - Murder of Dutch filmmaker Theo Van Gogh
        - Fort Hood massacre
        - Assad kkklan of Syria murder of over 9,000 Syrians AND the absence of "anti-imperialist", "anti-war" protests outside the Syrian consulate
        - attack on the 1972 Olympics and murder of atheletes
        - hijacking of the Achille Lauro and the murder of a wheelchair bound innocent
        - Current Day Slavery in Sudan (Darfur) and Mauritania
        - Empire State Building observation deck murders
        - Muslim-Only city of mecca in saudi arabia
        - wahabbi / salafi fascism
        - Luxor Egypt massacre of tourists
        - murder of Coptic Christians in Egypt
        - synagogue bombings in Turkey
        - church bombings in Nigeria
        - church bombings in Pakistan
        - mosque bombings in Iraq

        Happy Nakba Schmucky!

        • scum

          And imagine, with that impressive bullet list, Bush/Cheney never connected the dots. Amazing.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            scummy, I'll make it easy for you.

            Socialism + Islamofascism = World-Wide Terrorism

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            So the war against al qada and general islamofascism started with Obama?

      • Zionista

        and you are an islamonazi fearing dhimmi

      • http://www.themadjewess.wordpress.com MAD JEWESS

        'All of these terrorists are Kahanists.'

        I am a Kahanist. I am no terrorist. I certainly do not approve of acts of terrorism. You DO realize that Kahane was assassinated? In 1990 by El Sayid Nosair. KAHANE was MURDERED, not the vc versa. These acts happened in the 2000s', WAY AFTER Kahane is GONE.

        Kahane was right about almost everything. Unlike you ;)

        Rabbi Meir Kahane, my husbands Rabbi said:
        "Those who cannot debate, defame"

        You prove him.. Kahane is not here, and you are defaming him. Shame on you.

    • KarshiKhanabad

      Muslims either celebrate 9-11 as a great Islamic victory, or they believe the Jews did it to make Islam look bad.

      Yes, being a Muslim means you can have it both ways, and means never having to say you're sorry.

  • Linda Rivera

    It is only the followers of ONE religion-political system that regularly blow up people, high-rise buildings, restaurants, trains, night clubs, hotels, buses, extremely painful, pedophile assaults on terrified children and their murders at Beslan, etc, and those people are MUSLIMS.

    Instead of millions of horrified Muslims marching in the streets in protest of the never-ending MUSLIM attacks and MUSLIM terror attacks perpetrated by Muslims on innocents, these Muslims are determined to stop our wonderful NYPD doing surveillance on devout Muslims.

    New York's finest want to PREVENT Muslim terror attacks. These Muslims clearly want Muslim terror attacks to succeed. WHY else are these Muslims trying to stop our caring, patriotic NYPD?

    • Vermont Yid

      BRAVO!!!!!

  • marios

    Not all Muslims are terrorists but all terrorists are Muslims. Muslims use stealth Jihad coming in to Western civilization country to destroy it from within and seize it making part of world war Caliphate. They use taqiyya to fool gullible people. Though Muslims leaders repeatedly said "Israel is small Satan, USA is big Satan". They are goal to destroy Israel as western style only democracy in the ME and than US. They use violent Jihad here (mayor Maliki, Times square bomber and hundreds alike only for the last 4-6years) and stealth Jihad penetrating to all echelons of Power, even in WH and Pentagon. Muslims leaders proclaimed "Islam will dominate in the world". They are working on it using our democracy and First amendments in particular. Our country don't invited them. If they are not satisfied let them go back to their 7th century filthy countries. The effort to put at the same page Jews who contributed so much for this country blossom and prosperity as many US Presidents mentioned and Islamists who came to seize this great country is part of stealth Jihad.

  • Linda Rivera

    Since 9/11, Muslims have carried out more than 19,011 deadly terror attacks. http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

    You will read there articles that will break your heart. The suffering of non-Musims is horrifying. It NEVER stops.

    • Vermont Yid

      It will NOT break any muslim hearts. It will fill them with joy.

  • Linda Rivera

    We will never forget how Muslims responded to 9/11. Muslims celebrated in countries around the world, including America.

    Palestinian Authority Muslims celebrated the cruel slaughter of our cherished 3,000 by dancing with great joy and delight in the streets, passing out candies and firing in the air. INHUMAN MONSTERS, who Americans are immorally forced to finance with their taxes. We will NEVER forget.

    • scum

      Sorry Linda. The number is now around 4000-5000. After 9/11, independent testing of Ground Zero proved conclusively that the toxicity levels were catastrophrically high. At the time I set this as a litmus test for the Right. Sure enough, instead the EPA (Christine Todd Whitman!) claimed there was no threat to first responders. The result: Between 1000-2000 have died from 9/11 fallout. Christine Todd Whitman was later chastised in court for misleading the public, but was 'exonerated' in 2008 on the basis that government officials are under no obligation to tell the truth. Unbelievable, but true.

    • Ghostwriter

      I agree with a lot of what you said. The Palestinians behaved abominably on 9/11. They don't deserve one penny from us.

  • aspacia

    Egyptian and Palestinian Muslims yelled bullseye and cheered.

    • scum

      And your point is?

      • intrcptr2

        Actually shaper than the one at the tip of your head, zippy.

      • SCREW SOCIALISM

        scummy, the point is that the claim that islam is the religion of peace is a falsehood.

  • Swatty Jim

    Ditto for those in Newark. They threw candy in the air and ran down streets applauding.

    They are using our P.C. system to work against us, yet we are too blind to see this. Too naive. Too lame. Too cowardly to stand up for OUR rights!

    You never ever once hear any of these groups speak out agianst terrorism…NEVER. And why is that? Becasue the fundamental beliefs in islam is to kill the infadel. These folks are just a ploy, while the jihadists plan their next move.

    Wake up America it's nearly tooooooo late!

  • Drakken

    Do these muslim savages not understand that the more they push us the backlash they fear will come to pass? I see the day coming sooner rather than later and when it does there is no Govt agency that is going to be able to stop it. So the moral of that storry is muslims, push us infidels at your own peril for I forsee we infidels will be playing a whole new game called cowboys and muslims.

    • scum

      Stop using the word Muslim Savages. It belittles the discourse and sounds bigoted. Thanks.

      • curmudgeon

        you are right. "muslim savages" is redundant. muslim means one who worships a god of pure evil and reveres an archcriminal, while obeying the dictates of the arch criminal, which is to enslave and or kill everyone else. savage is way to soft a word for muslims. thanks.

        • intrcptr2

          Frankly I think calling Muslims savages demeans American Indians and Zulu soldiers…

          • Drakken

            Scum, you can take the race and bigot card and shove it where the bloody sun don't shine. That dog don't hunt anymore and my European roots and western civilization are worth defending over anything the 3rd world offers.

  • scum

    The important thing to realize here is that Robert Spencer is earning his paycheck. He makes $132,000 a year on Jihad Watch. Unbelievable, but true.

    • http://www.themadjewess.wordpress.com MAD JEWESS

      Good for him. A laborer is worthy of his wage.

      • Martin Koschuttnig

        I'd rather see people like Spencer earn such money than any Muslim, who stands for Islamic Sharia which at one time can take away my freedom and that of my children…

        • http://www.themadjewess.wordpress.com MAD JEWESS

          Absolutely.

    • SCREW SOCIALISM

      scummy, are you his accountant?

    • Obama Fodder

      Robert Spencer is a great hero, and is not being paid nearly enough for all that he does.

    • SCREW SOCIALISM

      $132K?

      He is underpaid.

  • mrbean

    We will never win the war on terror with the Ivy League mother's boys in charge wether they are Democrats or RINO, because they do not undestand that there is no substitute for victory. They embrace only the fallacy of containment as a policy no matter how many times it fails each and every time.

    • sedoanman

      Re: "They embrace only the fallacy of containment as a policy no matter how many times it fails each and every time."

      See "McNamara-ization" http://www.newtotalitarians.com/index_files/McNam

    • Drakken

      The total war concept is going to make a huge comeback whether the momas boys are in charge or not because it will be a neccessity.

  • sedoanman

    I am of Italian extraction and can remember growing up when Italians in America were "targeted" because of the Mafia. The police never bothered me, and this was at a time way before Miranda and warrants for wiretaps. The fact is that the authorities don't have the resources to spy on every member of a minority group. They have to place those resources where they will be the most effective.

  • fightwarnotwars

    Wait, I thought you conservatives were pretty adamant about defending the constitution? I guess it doesn't count when it also happens to protect people you don't like! Oh the irony.

    • intrcptr2

      Show me, from the Constitution or Supreme Court case law, where it is illegal for police to sit in a cruiser and watch someone on public streets?

    • SCREW SOCIALISM

      fightwar, Try your kumbaya crap with al qada.

      BTW, avoid Hellfire missile crossings in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan.

    • Martin Koschuttnig

      Show me ONE Christian Church, or any Buddhist /Hindu Temple in Saudi arabiata, then talk about the US Constitution.

      5:33 – The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement

      Now the call to strike off the heads and fingertips of the unbelievers in a setting of "internal" fighting DOES not make sense at all. Whose head are supposed to be cut off? Why are these "unbelievers" called to Islam first? No, those who use violence do so because of he best example that ever graced the earth or soo…

  • WilliamJamesWard

    Muslims destroyed the New York Twin Towers, thousands died, heroic firemen and policemen
    went up into those buildings and died doing their job which is to serve and protect. Only a true
    dunce or a truely pathologically demented individual would claim that the NYPD was being out
    of line watchng Muslims. Before 9/11 Muslims got somewhat the benefit of the doubt, after 9/ll
    only morons have a doubt of their joint complicity and in my never humble opinion every last
    one should be imprissoned until deported back to their hell holes in the Middle East………..William

  • Dennis Metz

    This reminds me of black leaders that instead of preaching to their own kind to stop being thugs and obey the law, stop killing in gangs , we all know that is not their message, they keep preaching to black youths and others that they are being targeted by police because of their skin color and not because they are hanging out in suspicious places doing crazy things and dressing like thugs
    sad how black criminals are taught to point fingers at whites every time one of them gets pulled over, I am not saying some blacks have not experienced racism from a cop, just saying it has given everyone of them an alibi to blame something other than themselves when they commit a crime

  • David

    Will someone ask these "… innocent people … [and] good citizens” where they stand on Israel's right to exist?

  • Asher

    It is so obvious that the police are being persecuted and inhibited from doing their jobs. Releasing National security secrets is also part of the plot to destroy America, giving our enemies vital information. We watched the Last Jihad by Zudhi Jasser and it said, don't ever discount the possibility of a mushroom cloud going of in the United States. I believe that there is a huge possibility that this administration has an evil purpose in mind to bring down America, also consider an EMP. They will be desperate to get the job done, more so if they are not elected in November, due to union decline and taxpayer disgust with this government, new healthcare laws, and the decline of jobs and high unemployment.

  • http://www.maghrebchristians.com Youssef

    A Turkish prosecutor has linked a shadowy group the government suspects of being coup plotters to the 2007 murders of three Christian missionaries, media reports said Saturday.

    Read more: http://www.maghrebchristians.com/2012/06/09/turki

    Youssef

  • curmudgeon

    this if in reference to TIME TO STOP CALLING THEM ASIANS. which does not allow comment from the great unwashed. thats us. the ignorant masses that somehow see something wront with being enslaved, then gtenocided by our muslim betters. asians———–code word meaning muslim criminals that the media, government, academia, and other traitors see fit to see as fellow anti-civilization monsters. asians—doesnt mean asians, it means criminal psychopathic murderous raping muslims, but the cowardly media and traitorous government somehow can say the words. asians. means that rape, genital mutilation, slavery, and genocide is ok, as long as it is practices by enemies of conservatism (the horror). there is no evil that cannot be justified if the perpetrators just agree with the liberals. asians—————people who commit horrid crimes against humanity, but our liberals just cannot stand to say that they are actually muslims. asians. liberal hypocracy at work.

    • Drakken

      I prefer and use the words muslim savages, it fits much better

    • WilliamJamesWard

      You have it right curmudgeon and the media will continue to mislead all they can but the truth
      comes out, slowly yes but it will be common knowledge the type of savages we are dealing
      with. One day in November if there are enough Patriotic Americans and people that will not
      bow to the Islamist thugs and vote out the criminal enterprise of Obamanism and vote in
      people with clear purpose to restore the Republic and flush out the trash, we may have a
      future……………………………………..William

  • Brujo Blanco

    When 9/11 hit Bush the left a accuses GWB of not connecting the dots. When he launched into connecting the dots big time he was accused of spying. Like it or not the Muslims are prominent in the terrorist world. The Muslims overwhelmingly support terror. There are many so called moderate Muslims that tolerate terrorism and will do nothing about it. The left in this country which includes Obama sees the constitution as an impediment to their cause. We now see thousands of non citizens registered to vote and a DOJ that protects illegal voters. We cannot collect intelligence on terrorists and ignore the existence of Islam participation in terror.

  • BS77

    Hate to see the USA follow the delusional PC path taken by France, Sweden, England etc….countries now regretting their perilous and idiotic policies.

  • angela

    I tried to post a comment using the analogy of being careful of non human furry friends who develop a neurological disease which makes them aggresive, and to be careful of these does not mean you dislike these non human furry friends, but you are worried of the consequences of their condition. The post was immediately blocked, apparently you cant use the word for non human furry companions in the same post as those of a desert religion persuasion…. tou know what I mean, ;et's see if this post makes it.