Christopher Stevens: Devoured by a Monster He Helped Create


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Carter would not and did not understand that there was no winning over a man like Khomeini, for the Ayatollah’s core beliefs included a hatred and contempt for non-Muslims simply because they were non-Muslims. No adjustment of their public policies would mitigate that hatred and contempt, or the warfare and subjugation that followed from them.

Christopher Stevens, and those for whom he worked, have long made the same mistake, assuming that hearts and minds initiatives and gestures of good will toward the Islamic world will eventually pay off in reciprocal action. What happened to Stevens instead, however, is more indicative of how they actually pay off.

What happened to Stevens is a microcosm of what is happening to the country in general. Christopher Stevens, after aiding the Libyan jihadists, ended up being tortured and murdered by them. And with this murder the Obama administration’s folly in aiding the “Arab Spring” uprisings is laid bare. Just as Stevens rushed to Libya to aid the forces that ended up murdering him, so also the U.S. rushed to aid rebels in Egypt and Syria, as well as Libya, thereby installing regimes that are proving to be much, much more anti-American than those they supplanted. The monster unleashed in the Arab Spring has already begun to devour its chief benefactor.

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said that Christopher Stevens “will be remembered as a hero by many nations. He risked his life to stop a tyrant then gave his life trying to help build a better Libya. The world needs more Chris Stevenses.”

And the world will get them. Lenin never feared there would be a shortage of capitalists ready to sell the communists the rope they would use to hang them. And now, even despite this brutal murder, there is no shortage of diplomats in Washington, ready to show their nation’s good will and bestow its largesse among those who will stab them in the back as soon as they turn in the other direction. If our nation continues indefinitely down this road, the entire country will eventually suffer the fate of Christopher Stevens, writ large.

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  • saltbeef_bagel

    WE have our own "Arab Spring" in Europe every summer.

    1. When our UK soldiers return home from duty in Afghanistan and are spat at and abused in their own streets.
    2. When the French Banlieus are set alight by disgruntled "youths"
    3. When the last of the 16,000 Jews were driven out of Malmo (Sweden) last year.
    4. The London Underground Bombings
    5 The Madrid Train bombings
    etc
    etc

    • LibertyMan

      you forgot Dearborn, Michigan

      • SCREW SOCIALISM

        He was talking about Europe.

        Eurabia is already lost, thanks to socialism..

        • Drakken

          Europe is not lost my friend, it is going to go through one hell of a tranformation in the shape of nationalism.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            That makes it easier to impose a religion over the entire region, instead of one country at a time.

          • Indioviejo

            Get your act together before it is too late. Social Justice, multiculturalism, and socialism are destroying your countries.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Drakken, If by "nationalism", you mean "national socialism", then europe is doomed. You don't trade one form of fascism for another and expect to come out in one piece.

            Personally I could not care less for Europe. It is a depraved, dying civilization, once again under attack by barbarians. Instead of the Visgoths, you have the Islamists.

            Except for the Czech Republic and possibly Italy, SCREW EURABIA.

          • deprogrammer

            Way to back peddle in your own post moron. Clearly you know nothing of the world and it's history.

    • LindaRivera

      I appeal to all my non-Muslim brothers and sisters, PLEASE join one of Europe's Freedom Parties! If in Britain or a British citizen abroad, PLEASE join British Freedom. If not citizens, please SUPPORT Europe's Freedom Parties and British Freedom!

      We dare not lose this battle waged against us or the darkest period the world has ever known will descend upon us!

      Politics: the Way to Defeat Islamisation of Britain http://britishfreedom.org/politics-the-way-to-def

      Double Standards of YouTube, the Media and Politicians http://britishfreedom.org/double-standards-of-you

      My deepest gratitude to the brave heroes who fight for our freedom!

  • Stephan

    The diplomat should have listened to George Washington:

    The great rule of conduct for us, in regard to foreign nations, is in extending our commercial relations to have with them as little political connection as possible. So far as we have already formed engagements, let them be fulfilled with perfect good faith. Here let us stop.

    Europe has a set of primary interests which to us have none, or a very remote relation. Hence she must be engaged in frequent controversies, the causes of which are essentially foreign to our concerns. Hence, therefore, it must be unwise in us to implicate ourselves, by artificial ties, in the ordinary vicissitudes of her politics, or the ordinary combinations and collisions of her friendships or enmities.

    Our detached and distant situation invites and enables us to pursue a different course. If we remain one people, under an efficient government, the period is not far off when we may defy material injury from external annoyance; when we may take such an attitude as will cause the neutrality we may at any time resolve upon to be scrupulously respected; when belligerent nations, under the impossibility of making acquisitions upon us, will not lightly hazard the giving us provocation; when we may choose peace or war, as our interest guided by our justice shall counsel.

    Why forego the advantages of so peculiar a situation?Why quit our own to stand upon foreign ground?Why, by interweaving our destiny with that of any part of Europe, entangle our peace and prosperity in the toils of European ambition, rivalship, interest, humor, or caprice?

    It is our true policy to steer clear of permanent alliances with any portion of the foreign world. So far, I mean, as we are now at liberty to do it, for let me not be understood as capable of patronizing infidelity to existing engagements (I hold the maxim no less applicable to public than to private affairs that honesty is always the best policy). I repeat it, therefore: let those engagements be observed in their genuine sense. But, in my opinion, it is unnecessary and would be unwise to extend them.

    • mlcblog

      Wise words indeed!! This goes to the very heart of the matter, our fundamental differences. Where do you ever find these words? I am glad they are still available to us.

    • NoIslam

      Just to remind you! Multiculturalism and globalism is an invention of the U.S. not of europe!

  • SHmuel HaLevi

    A few years ago I coined the word WORDMANSHIP.
    And I say that it represents the West's mainstay on the war that Islam declared on Civilization.
    Islam is a monstrous cult of death and mayhem for their own sake. The deranged beasts that become active part of that cult are at all times in a state of murderous rage.
    I have witnessed that rage many times flowing from Islamic villages nearby. Triggers are erratic and many.
    We must understand the true nature of that deadly enemy before it will be too late. There is absolutely nothing rational in that cult and its members.
    Iran and anyone that for whatever reasons favor that cesspools to be nuclear armed shall be dealt with w/o any flexibility.

    • Drakken

      Then we must push those triggers as much as we can, let them rage, just have lots of bullets and use liberally.

      • SCREW SOCIALISM

        Drakken, Now that I can agree with.

  • http://twitter.com/ygalg @ygalg

    The Golem raised against its maker …

    • saltbeef_bagel

      Very symbolic

  • PaulRevereNow

    If Christoper Stevens' murder is irrational, what would a nuclear-armed Iran be like?

    • SCREW SOCIALISM

      Suicidal.

  • Anthony

    I feel zero sympathy for the useful Dhimmis who lost his usefulness. I hear zero meaningful response from team Osama, I mean President Obama. The media is covering up the meaning of this event like soviet spin masters, they lack brains to equate Obama’s apology tour to Egypt in the beginning with the collapse of the ME status quo.

    It is blood on Obama’s hands, on Seniorita Clinton’s hands that they are washing. Can you imaging a crisis like this garnering a fund rading response in Las Vegas under any sane, competent , intelligent, person? No. That is the act of an evil, selfish, petty reckless clown who deserves to be called out by someone on his extreme stupidity. But of course Obama’s chip on his shoulder regarding his own ethnicity call into question his motives for apparently rearranging the geopolitical map of the Islamic world empowering what is starting to look a lot like a reconstituted caliphate.

    Treason? Betrayal….Stevens was just Obama’s sock puppet who believed his own lies. I feel nothing for such a fool. Neither does Barack Obama who is an expert user.

    • Jim_C

      Stevens was a hero, serving our country and bravely trying to turn a bad situation into a good one. It's too bad you have neither the class or even simple human decency to recognize that.

      • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

        Stevens was a fool.
        And he died a fool.

        He went from trying to work with al qaida type muslims to being murdered by al qaida type muslims.

        I don't consider that a work of genius.

        • Jim_C

          Yeah, I think they call it "diplomacy," Rog. And despite what you may have heard I think it's been a feature of our foreign policy for a few hundred years, now. It's a pretty sweet game when you do it in places like England and Switzerland. Not so much when you do it in destabilized countries, which is sort of where the "bravery" part comes in.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Wasn't Neville Chamberlain a diplomat?

      • Tom S

        The problem with this is the premise that the Muslims have any intention of becoming tolerant even of sects within their religion. To continue to operate under the illusion that they will is getting people killed.

        • Jim_C

          Yet diplomatic work must still be done, and it will be done under Republicans as well as democrats, and it will be done whether your opinion states that Muslims are a huge united group of terrorists or whether your opinion states that there may actually be a few human beings amongst them.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Why? What evil person was ever convinced to tone it down due to diplomacy?

            It was cruise missiles that toned Qadaffi down, and look where he is today.

          • Jim_C

            Good point: thank you, President Obama!

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            For empowering the people that murder?

            That leaves blood on his hands.

      • reader

        Stevens has served his master in the WH, who went to bed even before Stevens' body would be found. I bet he slept like a baby.

        • pghpuma

          in a nutshell

      • Anthony

        Hey Jim, he was a hero who died serving the cause of spreading evil around the world. He was a hero in service of the army of Obama,

        His cause equated to the spread of the evil he himself was offed by.

        That evil is now within our borders, it is throughout Europe because of dopes like him.

        Yes, to you he was a hero by virtue of his service to Obama and planet America, to me he was a fool by aiding Moslems pretending to be "democratic", to Moslems he was a Dhimmi, to Stalin, he would have been identified as a useful idiot who sadly, out-cocktail partied his stay in a country ruled by the strictures of the teachings of the prophet of Islam.

      • gray man

        stevens was a fool, also from what I understand, he had a policy of no ammo for the guards – useless empty weapons – he deserves what he got.

        • Jim_C

          He "deserves it?"

          What an A&&hole you are.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You don't want our ambassadors serving in hostile situations armed with live ammo?

            What an a hole you are.

            The Neville Chamberlain approach never works. Especially for a President that doesn't seek victory.

          • Jim_C

            Who said they didn't have ammo? A blog? Please.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Who said they did? A political hack? Please….

          • Jim_C

            Just the Pentagon.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Full of Obama loyalists.

            And that's going to be my term. Anyone appointed by, or associated with liberalism is an obama loyalist above all else and they need to be labeled as such.

          • Jim_C

            Well, bully for you, Rog! "Obama loyalists," oooo, that has a sting, doesn't it?

            I'll elect to listen to the people actually in charge of the military. You can elect to listen to a dweeb with a blogger account.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            To those with a sense of history, "Obama loyalists" does fall into line with other dictators yes.

            And you pretend that the pentagon isn't full of politics. How cute.
            And journalists used to be the watchdog for the citizenry. Of course now that most have the morals of Chris Matthews that isn't true, but today's bloggers take up some of that slack. And it wasn't just one blogger, so how many do you think you can silence?

  • Rifleman

    I don't suppose the msm will ever get around to asking obama or hillary what they were thinking by having Libyans guard our embassy instead of US Marines.

    • mlcblog

      Thinking?

    • PaulRevereNow

      Well, the Washington Post is beginning to get it(I think); the headline of one of their articles reads,
      "Was the attack planned?" Trouble is, they never get beyond the beginning.

    • Kufar Dawg

      The Marine detachment in Iran in '79' didn't put any resistance.

      • Rifleman

        Yep, and look at what they got for it. I guess I can be faulted for expecting anything to be learned from the experience.

      • White Hunter

        They were ordered not to–by the ambassador. Somebody coulda got hurt, you know. The chain of command should be reversed: an ambassador should under the command of an embassy's Marines, instead of the other way around. That way there'd be a lot more dead terrorists, and a lot fewer dead Americans.

        • Rifleman

          That's a GREAT post on many levels White Hunter. Reversing the chain of command in such situations makes perfect sense, not just because it's basically the same as the Secret Service taking charge to perform their mission and protect and defend the President against imminent danger. A physical attack on an embassy is an act of war, and falls under martial law, even if (maybe even "especially if") the highest ranking military authority on hand comes down to a Marine Corporal. That's extreme, but the survival of US delegations has come down to the training, determination, and ability of US Marine Jr. Officers several times that I know of.

        • Rifleman

          During the Boxer Rebellion, the defense of the entire foreign legation to China came down to German immigrant Capt. John T. Myers, and an understrength Company of US Marines and their rifles. They held their western position on the Tartar Wall against what should have been overwhelming force, and defended against the loss of the eastern barricade when the German contingent was overrun. He also lead a typical US Marine assault took Boxer barricade advancing against their position and ended up securing the whole western side of the wall.

          Either way, like you said, the result is more dead terrorists, and fewer dead Americans. Nobody has ever been left in peace because they wouldn't defend themselves.

    • John_Kelly

      GREAT Comment Rifleman !!!

  • tagalog

    In the past, Americans practiced diplomacy with a fairly simple set of tools. We were considered fools and idiots, but our mistakes generally didn't result in our making deals with people who then turned around and murdered our people.

    Then we got "nuanced." Vietman showed us how crazy we can be when we decide to get creative with our foreign policy. It seemed at the time as if Americans just went crazy when it came to dealing with Asia, but now we have the Mediterranean area and we're just as crazy.

    Maybe we should just go back to being simple-minded. Then we'll just occasionally be fools, but we won't be getting our people killed. One of those simple-minded tactics we used to engage in was immediately rattling our swords at nations that allowed their people to kill our people. Remember "I want Perdicaris alive or Raisuli dead!" That one didn't work like a well-oiled clock, but it shut the Arabs and Berbers up for half a century. Maybe we should have a U.S. naval fleet on station in the Med for a while. A few overflights by carrier aircraft might help sober them up.

    • dmw

      This is what we get when we turn too much of government over to "professionals" and are careless when we elect our leaders who oversee foreign policy (who should have a sense of the American people). Instead of electing and re-electing and re-electing lawyers, perhaps we need more historians who remember the foreign policy advice and IN-TENT of our Founders (as posted above by Stephan). Since the fall of the Soviet Union, we've been essentially leaderless and running OUT-OF-THE-TENT — uncovered — in nakedness and a persistently reactive rather than proactive stance that "covers" rather than continually exposes us (what Condi Rice referred to at the RNC Convention: "Where does America stand?" — although I might disagree with her about an interventionist stance).

      • Drakken

        We need to elect more from the military, they get it and understand the speak sofly and carry a big stick and use it when needed. Too many wishful thinking leftist thinking that you can reason with savages when it is clear you cannot.

        • pghpuma

          what would make you imagine that the left, themselves IMPOSSIBLE to reason with, have any comprehension of reasoning. They, like Demi Moore, had no idea of the opposition they'd encounter once In Country and confronted with the strength of those whose choices you expect to easily cop

  • burt

    our ambassador was first RAPED (by a friendly muslim, of course), then murdered and paraded in the streets, then, according to Hitlary, they carried him to a hospital (to save his life, naturally).
    even 1 year old child knows she's lying – or just practicing for 2016 presidential campaign?

  • burt

    our ambassador was first RAPED (by a friendly muslim, of course), then murdered and paraded in the streets, then, according to Hitlary, they carried him to a hospital (to save his life, naturally).

    • ROSINE GHAWJI

      TRUE THE FRENCH AND CANADIAN PRESS ARE REPORTING THE RAPE . WHEN I SAW THE VIDEO ABOUT THE AMBASSADOR , I HAD THE SAME THOUGHT. HE REAPED WHAT HE SOWED . HOW COM THE ISLAMISTS ARE NOT ATTACKING THE JAPANESE OR THE RUSSIAN EMBASSY….. AMERICA IS WEAK VERY WEAK PEOPLE ARE BRAINWASHED WITH THE IDEA OF TOLERANCE AND THE FACT THAT THEY ARE THE MOST POWERFUL IN THE WORLD.. IT IS NOT TRUE THEY WILL LEARN THE HARD WAY

      • SCREW SOCIALISM

        I trust the Canadians. The French (and the British) press not so.

        If the torture of Stevens is true. This needs to be publicized because this will discredit the sham "outrage" over the movie and show the attack for what it was. The Religion of Peace at work.

  • Tanstaafl jw

    It is duty of every Muslim to wage jihad against the infidel. It is halal for all Muslims to lie to infidels.

  • rbla

    The first practical step to take is to keep these characters out of our own country with an immediate freeze on all Muslim immigration.

  • BLJ

    The author hit the nail on the head. What really disturbs me is the efforts of Islam (yes just Islam) to take over America. They have been at this for years and because of our assinine adherence to politcal correctness might just succeed.

    The enemy has breached the gate. I for one am ready and willing to fight to the death. Are you?

    • Tom S

      No, it iis not just the Muslims. There is a wholsale invasion coming from the south. Political correctness is partially to blame for that as well.

  • Kenny

    That's the problem. this guy was there trying to ''build a better Lybia" when his mission should have been to represent the U.S.

  • JakeTobias

    Apparently, Mr. Stevens spent virtually his entire career in the Middle East as a Middle Eastern expert. Then was raped, strangled, beaten, suffocated, and smoked to death. Sounds about right.

    • Bartimaeus

      Yes, this is a little like the expert on bears trying to befriend the wild bears in Alaska. Just as he felt he was making real progress a bear mauled him to death. A common native Alaskan could have told him he was being foolish, but of course he would not have listened.

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

      He did die an expert.
      How sad.

    • gray man

      not much of an expert, unless you mean that he used to be a pert and now he is an ex-pert.

  • Andy

    Stevens may have given his life to save America. The comments in most online media indicate a clear understanding by the commenters of who needs to be blamed – Obama – who aided and abetted the Arab Spring and the Islamists. Watch for the next poll and you will find entirely different numbers. If Romney starts to exploit Obama's romance with Islam instead of sticking to only the economy, he'll get American emotions stirred and will win, thus save America.

    • curmudgeon

      that is the problem. i see no evidence that romney has any comprehension of the islamic threat. expect continued muslim pandering with romney. he may not be as bad as obama, but only because obama is very, very bad.

  • Anonymous

    After the ambassador's murder, Obama gave a speech about the Ambassador's death. It was completely flat, insipid, vapid — no emotion whatsoever. Boilerplate. Yet, even with all the empty clichés he repeats, mindlessly, the press laps it up! What a disgrace!

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

      It was a murder, and an act or war.

      And he didn't seem to feel the outrage any patriotic American would have. He almost seemed to accept it as something we deserved as a failing superpower that doesn't deserve what we have.

      • Kufar Dawg

        Or maybe just another act of social justice against whitey by "people of color"

      • LindaRivera

        He was not upset, because Obama is a Muslim.

  • jemaasjr

    We may very well be better off for these events. The Islamic world has always been the enemy of not Muslims, and maybe empowering them is the only way we will come to figure it out. If so, the sooner the better.

  • Anonymous

    Personally, I don't give a damn what Ambassador Steven's politics were — lunatic left or lunatic right — it is, at this juncture, irrelevant. Especially so, when his friends, family, and children are in mourning. (please bear in mind that it is the enemies of America who crow — after Americans are murdered — that they "got what they deserved!" Such an obscenity! Please let us not become like our enemies!)

    • Kufar Dawg

      He chose to lay down w/dogs. He got what he f'ing deserved.

    • gray man

      nonsense, of course we mourn for his family, but he and the policies he supported led to his death. He deserves no more respect than the drunken fool who insists on driving the wrong way down the freeway and get killed because of it. HE deserves nothing but contempt. Darwinism in action.
      Tell me did he mourn for the people killed because he supported the policies he supported?

    • gray man

      we can only hope that more of these idiots reep what they sow, then finally the US politicians will maybe get their heads out of their forth point of contact (arse), concerning the filth that is islam.

  • Aksil

    They ( the arabians) killed him beacuse he was advocating for the Amazighs' rights in North Africa. He is a marthys for a just cause. RIP Chris!

  • Kufar Dawg

    The zero regime couldn't care less that their tool was killed, except it reflects negatively on the 2012 election campaign.

    Stevens lay down w/dogs and got up dead.

  • drbukk

    Our Pollyanna defunded every democracy movement in the ME upon taking office, to appease Khomeini. The result was his regime lost contact and trust with those who had previously been groomed. Then, to make matters worse he took a "I ain't no imperialist" approach to the Arab spring and did nothing to establish human rights or a political system with checks and balances. He blew the greatest opportunity in hundreds of years to improve the planet.

  • John_Kelly

    The latest outburst of Muslim insanity (a.k.a. violence) is supposedly triggered by a video that offended their gentle peace loving nature !!!!

    Muslims claim they are offended by a video about Mohammad yet they are not offended when they placed the video of the beheading of American journalist Daniel Pearl on the internet.

    Muslims claim they are offended by a video about Mohammad yet they are not offended when hundreds of young school children are raped, sodomized and murdered by Muslim men in the Beslan School Massacre.

    Muslims claim they are offended by a video about Mohammad yet they are not offended when teenage girls in Texas are murdered under the guise "Honor Killing".

    Islam has the world divided into two camps: Dar Al Islam (the House of Islam) and Dar Al Harb (the House of War) or the non believer.

    Muslims claim they are offended by a video about Mohammad yet they are not offended by 13 Muslim men who raped a non Muslim girl in Sydney Australia as under Islamic law she is from Dar Al Harb and as such is considered the spoils of war.

    Wake up America. Every act perpetrated by Muslims can be found in the Quran, The Hadith or The Sira as Mohammad the founder of Islam was also a murderer, a rapist and a pedophile as his youngest wife Aisha was 6 years old when he married her and 9 years old when he consummated the wedding.

    Just to top it all off President Obama said regarding Muslims "If the political winds should shift in an ugly direction, I will side with them." (Page 261, "The Audacity of Hope")

  • YetWave

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    What we in the west fail to understand is that islam is the religion of total submission. It pervades every aspect of their lives. There is no free will. In the most effective manifestation of secular government in the arab world, power is concentrated among one or a smal group of men whose power is irrefuatable and incontestable. To question or deny mohahammed as the prophet of allah is as inviting to a death sentence as the act of questioning the autocratic regime that rules the nation.

  • YetWave

    2 of 2
    Muslims function optimally beneath a heavy hand in the secular world as they do in the religious. There can be no questions, no exercise of personal initiative, no choice in any matter of importance.
    Then we westeners, conditioned to concepts that have no parallel in islam, like free will and independent thought, construe their agitations as pleas for democracy. What they desire and what it looks as if they will call upon themselves, is more of the same old same old, which is just fine with them.
    My sons served in Iraq and Afghanistan. Their observations were that once the US leaves-and this could be directed everywhere in the region except Israel- the poeple who we are spending blood and treasure in the futile hope of introducing democracy to, will revert to their customs.
    I agree with the multi-culturalists. By believeuing that institutions that are effective in the west and are instruments of pluralism, justice and other high-falutin' qualities are suitable for adaptation by arabs is being ethnocentric. They are no more capable of establishing democracy than my dog is to drive.

  • anon

    When I was in the Navy, back in the early '90s, we were shown pics of a U.S. pilot who'd been captured alive and held hostage. Our intel officer, a LCDR who spoke Farsi, assured us that it has long been Arab practice (not uniquely Muslim, but that, too) to rape male captives, whether civilian or military. Everything I've seen since then bears that out.

    We may still be the most powerful nation on earth, but if we lose the will to use that power, we're ripe for the final fall into history.

  • Ghostwriter

    Here's the problem most of us don't get. The Muslim world has always hated America and apparently always will. That's as unchanging as the tides.

  • LindaRivera

    I appeal to all my non-Muslim brothers and sisters, PLEASE join one of Europe's Freedom Parties! If in Britain or a British citizen abroad, PLEASE join British Freedom. If not citizens, please SUPPORT Europe's Freedom Parties and British Freedom!

    We dare not lose this battle waged against us or the darkest period the world has ever known will descend upon us!

    Politics: the Way to Defeat Islamisation of Britain http://britishfreedom.org/politics-the-way-to-def

    Double Standards of YouTube, the Media and Politicians http://britishfreedom.org/double-standards-of-you

    My deepest gratitude to the brave heroes who fight for our freedom!

  • Indioviejo

    Sory to see you guys censoring free speech again. It only works if it is open to all.

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

      You realize you're free to open your own site, if you don't like this one.

      That's freedom of speech.

  • RUI

    Nelson said it better: Ha ha!

  • Jossi

    It is decades that we Israelis are telling the Europeans and the Americans how the mohammedans are functioning. In the last years (decades) you are feeling it painfully on your own soil and skin. Still the governments of Europe and America are regularly slapping us in the face, and hampering us or cutting us short. We have rebuilt partially our ancient land, defended it, and built a vibrant society. We won't give up, and we perfectly know who our enemy is. The West and Israel are like brothers which distrust each other due to a long and nasty family history. The mohammedans fear us, and that is good so, they know we Israelis have the will to fight, and up to now we haven't shown all our capacities, and they know it. Unfortunately, the West has a broken pride and isn't any more used to defend itself. Willy-nilly the West has the mohammedans' knife nearly at the throat, now you must act. Will you? I observe both sides, the West and the mohammedans and for the time being the West is weak, corrupt and follows illusions; while the mohammedans are brutal, wild and resolute to kill you and me. The endgame has begun. Not nice to contemplate, but deeds are speaking louder than PC statements.

    • Drakken

      We westerners will be bringing back our old ancient custom of conquer and kill. The muslims take our kindness and tollerance for weakness, it is their mistake, for they forget what we are capable of doing.

      • anon

        One problem with that, which the Muslims are counting on: we now have gov'ts which will do ANYTHING THEY MUST to prevent us doing what we've always done.

  • gman213

    I've got some chickens being guarded by a wolf..is that bad? DUH

  • lifehaven

    There is an exact parallel to what our nation faced early on and what it faces today. Said Abe Lincoln of the danger of papal tyranny and its application today with Islam: "Is it not an act of folly to give absolute liberty of conscience to a set of men who are publicly sworn to cut our throats the very day they have the opportunity? Is it right to give the privilege of citizenship to men who are sworn and public enemies of our constitution, our laws, our liberties, and our lives?
    "The very moment that popery [or Islam] assumed the right of life and death on a citizen of France, Spain, Germany, England, or the United States, it assumed to be the power, the government of France, Spain, England, Germany, and the United States. Those States then committed a suicidal act by allowing popery [or Islam] to put a foot on their territory with the privilege of citizenship. The power of life and death is the supreme power, and two supreme powers cannot exist on the same territory without anarchy, riots, bloodshed, and civil wars without end. When popery [and Islam] will give up the power of life and death, which it proclaims as its own divine power in all its theological books and canon laws, then, and then alone, it can be tolerated and can receive the privileges of citizenship in a free country.
    "Is it not an absurdity to give to a man a thing which he has sworn to hate, curse, and destroy?" – Charles Chiniquy, Fifty Years in the Church of Rome, pages 300-303.

  • witnesstojihad

    David Littman warned us: "If you continue to behave like this, you'll perish."

  • jason

    As burt correctly said this man was not just "tortured and murdered" as stated in the article. He was sodomized by muslims, then tortured by muslims and murdered by muslims.

    muslims have been perpetrating this kind of brutality for centuries. The Catholic Church is often maligned for the Crusades, as if it were some sort of violent aggression. It was a RESPONSE to the barbarism of the followers of muhammed, in order to defend Christendom and the innocent.

    History repeats itself.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Wee, come now. You advocated a vigilante style death for a man accused of something horrible, but hadnt' faced trial yet. I compared that to your call for jihad in this situation.

    24 minutes ago @ Breitbart.tv – Soldier Found Guilty i… · 1 reply · +1 points
    "The whole town needs locked in the church and the church set on fire. IMO "

    And you never answered the question, which kind of sharia justice do you find more pretty?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Why don't you answer the question? Are you a coward?
    You advocated a vigilante style murder of a suspect, and of course declared jihad on a town full of Christians.

    Which would you find more entertaining to watch, the murder, or the burning death in a church?

    You have a preference, why not admit to it?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Sharia isn't just a religion, it's a life style. And why would wanting to weed out hostile life styles be unreasonable?

    They do want us dead. If they are true followers of islam, that surah 9 mandate drives them to all sorts of things like the underwear bomber, the ft hood shooter, the Atlanta recruiter attack, the 9/11 attack…

    Why wouldn't we want to screen them out? Do you think before you use propaganda from your work terminal where you sit and spew it all day long?

  • Drakken

    Anyone from the middle and far east will be banned from entry to the US, simples.

  • Kufar Dawg

    I think you would be happier living out your troglodyte lifestyle in any islamofascist state Habib, so move.

  • Ghostwriter

    No,I don't think Israelis. They're not the ones baying for our blood.

  • gray man

    actually, the first step is to declare islam what it is: a political system used to over through governments and create sharia law. declare that it is not a religion and therefor outlawed, much like Nazism in Germany. Shut down and destroy all mosques. It is easy enough to determine if immigrants are muslims or not. if muslims refuse entry.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    If they behave against the rule of law there is a justice system to deal with them.

    You 'wee' little man, you always seem to want to ignore the rule of law and the justice system.
    It's just not the 'sharia' way you advocate, is it?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Yet if a muslim follows the rule of law?

    Two problems with that. What rule of law do they follow? As a muslim it's not our rule of law it's sharia. So we have things like muslims stoning Christians in dearborn.

    Why do we want that?

    If they do follow our rule of law, then why consider them muslim? They would be apostate and then not muslim any more.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Then the rule of law steps in where the people reject the teachings of Christ and act in opposition to them.

    And you are still the small little 'wee' guy that thinks Christianity teaches violence and hate like islam. It's a flawed presumption.

  • WTE

    You're entire argument is flawed and I show that everyday. <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    But you couldn't offer a single piece of that here, how convenient.

    When you lie, you should at least make it plausible wee.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Offer them a beer and ham sandwich.

    And if they're eating Kosher ask them to let their daughter date a Christian minister.

  • WTE

    Even israelis? <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

  • WTE

    I don't think I will be going anywhere <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”RIGHT: auto” dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Wasn't it an Israeli Arab stopped and arrested in a bunch of stabbing incidents? http://www.jpost.com/International/Article.aspx?i

    And yes, he's listed as an arab Christian. But I don't see any teaching of Christ that advocated these crimes.

  • knowTheEnemy

    You mean Israeli Muslims? Yes!

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    What a shame. We would want to see you happy, and less stressed.

    That little flask isn't good for you. There are meetings that can help….

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    I don't have to prove anything to you. I'm not supposed to throw pearls to swine.

    And another killing by someone that wasn't following the teachings of Christ. If only he had been, then he would have made the world a better place.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Even if he hadn't violated any teaching of Christ, even if he had lived a life of peace…

    Would you still declare jihad on him and want to do this to him and his fellow Christians?

    24 minutes ago @ Breitbart.tv – Soldier Found Guilty i… · 1 reply · +1 points
    The whole town needs locked in the church and the church set on fire. IMO

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    If you had been beating me down that might make sense.

    Wee, you don't realize most people don't like a small minded hate filled bigot.

    So, who are you going to declare jihad against, who are you going to advocate violence against today?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Tell that to all the parents who run with their children to the bomb shelters.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Really? It's the sharia minded that tolerate no diversity and have no value for life.

    Another example of your muslim friendly propaganda. Sitting at your work terminal day after day trying to spew propaganda.

  • WTE

    ” If you had been beating me down that might make sense”…………………..I beat you down everyday. You can't even keep up “Wee, you don't realize most people don't like a small minded hate filled bigot.:………………..Then why do you continue to be small minded hate filled bigot? <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Why is defending the value of life rise to the level of bigotry you small little man?

  • WTE

    Hitler was a christian <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

  • WTE

    Which shows you are a not followerof christ. Thank you <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

  • WTE

    You only defend christians <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Which shows I'd be throwing pearls to swine if I gave you more.

    Thank you, elvis can now leave the building.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Be accurate you small little man.

    I attack only mindless violence and the bigotry that defends it.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    And why don't you go ahead and show how he followed the teachings of Chrsit then?

    He had a nominal Christian heritage but rejected all the values that went along with it.
    That doesn't make him a Christian.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Then why do you keep bringing up my question if it's irrelevant?

    Because you misrepresent it and hope I won't keep reminding you that you advocate violence at every chance.

    Now why don't you use some of your anger and man up. Which violence do you prefer? A lynching vigilante style or a jihad burning?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Of course it is.

    I don't care if you like my answers, they are still my answers.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    You schooled me on nothing.

    You failed to show Hitler followed the teachings of Christ or let those values influence his life or policies. I schooled you on it, but of course being the 'wee' little thing you are you won't admit it. And it's just as well, you refuse to learn a thing.

    You sit at your work terminal spewing propaganda in compliance with the trista parsi school of muslim ideology all day long. Facts and comments responding have nothing to do with your talking points.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    You keep bringing up the question, but you've casually removed the question mark at the end.

    If I don't matter, then why do I tie you up in little 'wee' circles all day long mr 'muslim friendly' kind of guy?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    And what facts show Hitler didn't reject the teachings of Christ and ignore them?

    Hitler was many things, but he was not a follower of Christ.
    You confuse facts with muslim friendly talking points from the iranian/trista parsi school of thought.

  • WTE

    Now you want to tie me up? You are a creep. Hitler was a christian <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Quote me.

    Wee, you small little man blinded by hate. Have you been sucking your little flask too much? There are meetings that can help with that.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Poor 'wee' little man.

    Have you finished your flask and don't feel up to the walk to refill it?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Wee, you small little man,

    You're going in failed circles. Just saying he was a Christian doesn't mean it's so. You can't show he followed the teachings of Christ or the values Christ lived. Christian means being a follower of Christ. Hitler doesn't make that test. Murdering over 11 million has something to do with it. As a muslim loyal and thinking kind of person, you can't see that violence is a bad thing. That Christ didn't go that way and his followers don't either if they successfully live the Chrsitian life. Think 'Mother Theresa' if your tiny little brain blinded by hate can manage it.

    Hitler? It's not a fit at all.

    Now, since you have nothing outside your approved talking points and your handler knows you can't handle new ones, what hate filled rant are you going to circle around to now?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Perhaps when he was living the values that Christ lived and the teachings Christ taught.

    It's the test for Christians you know… oh you don't. You cling to your muslim friendly standards, 8th century and all.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Too much 'mtn dew' to think clearly?

    There are meetings for that.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    But I did. And I do every time you throw that out.

    Your muslim friendly values may work with the trista parsi crowd, but they're failing here.

  • WTE

    Hitler was a chirstian <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

  • WTE

    Where? What documented evidence did you to show he was a christian? <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Where did I say he was a Christian?
    I simply laid out the test and figured readers would decide for themselves.

    Wee, the hate blinds you. It really does keep you a 'wee' little man. And you ought to cut back on the flask, this was another comment that didn't make any sense when matched with the one you were replying too.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Still floundering and struggling to keep shrieking the failed mantra?

    You can't show he was a follower of Christ by anything he actually did or valued.

    You once again are sounding like this.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfResyFrqlM

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    So, not only do you not say what you mean, I'm supposed to know and filter out your sloppy mistakes? That flask is bad news. You know, there are meetings that can help you with that.

    In the meantime this is how you sound. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfResyFrqlM

  • WTE

    Your own christian test showsyou are not a christian because you don't follow or try and be christ like, You don't love your neighbor or enemy i.e. myself or arabs, you admit to stealing, and you lie on a constant basis <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

  • WTE

    Typos and words getting left outhappen and you make them too. Hypocrite <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Yes, but you can't show I'm wrong on the issue.

    You're trapped in circular logic that you can't escape from, even when shown why you're wrong.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Wee, you don't know how I apply my own test to the life I lead.

    You know I follow the advice in the Bible for the modern Christian church and resist evil, (you).

    And how can you apply one test for being Christian to me, and another for Hitler?

    You're just a two faced hack.

  • WTE

    No you don't………………….see you just lied again. You don't know how hitler applied his own test to life to be a chirstian <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    You have claimed to show me as wrong. But you don't actually do so. You have that al taqiyya approach.

    You still haven't shown hitler was a follower of Christ's teachings of the values He lived.

    So, you lie and try to insult my religion once more with nothing to back it up.

    How does it feel to be an empty chair like your president of like muslim loyalties?

  • WTE

    I have shown you're wrong hundreds of times. <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”RIGHT: auto” dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Hitler either follows Christ's standards or he's not Christian. Setting his own standards would mean he was starting his own religion and not accepting the Christian one.

    Either way, he was not a follower of Christ.

    Your saying so only makes you show how little you understand about Hitler and my religion.

    Ask Bon Hoeffer. Ask Mother Theresa, they were both Christians.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    So, which teaching of Christ did Hitler follow then? That should be an easy question to answer.
    Unless you're just a muslim friendly hack that sits at his work terminal following the handlers talking points.

  • WTE

    And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works. -Jesus in Revelation 2:23 Hitler killed the children of other faiths (her children), especially of the Jewish religion during the 20th century holocaust. <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    That was Revelation, not Jesus speaking. It's not instruction for the modern church, so you still fail.

    Can't you do better? They may have to team you up with another troll so you can cover for each other if this is your best example of propaganda.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    What is your test for Christianity. I pass the same test you think is good enough for Hitler. So, you're going to need to make up your 'wee' mind about what a follower of Christ is supposed to be. Then realize it's none of your business since you reject it anyhow.

    You don't understand the workings of a religion you have no part of. And you won't even admit to the religion you have loyalties to, why won't you just say you're muslim and be man enough to not cower in the shadows?