Grover Must Go

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Senator Saxby Chambliss (R-GA) has become the latest Republican politician to see the writing on the wall and break with anti-tax guru Grover Norquist. America has voted for socialism, and socialism is what it is going to get, and the statesmanlike Saxby is not going to be the one who stands athwart history and shouts, “Stop!” And yet, as craven as Chambliss’s capitulation to the forces of unrestrained government power is – and it is craven indeed – there is one thing the august Georgia solon has right: it’s time to break with Grover Norquist.

“I care more about this country than I do about a 20-year-old pledge,” Chambliss thundered piously. “If we do it his way, then we’ll continue in debt, and I just have a disagreement with him about that.” In other words, there is no chance whatsoever to rein in the ever-galloping growth of government spending, and so Americans are just going to have to pony up more to feed the socialist leviathan. After all, we can’t expect that people will perform key services like reading our emails or making sure we aren’t drinking sugary drinks for free. And Saxby Chambliss, part of the ever spineless, gutless, clueless, directionless, visionless Republican establishment, is going to make sure they are duly remunerated for their service to Big Brother.

Norquist’s response was an indication of how utterly the anti-tax idol has failed. “Senator Chambliss,” he huffed, “promised the people of Georgia he would go to Washington and reform government rather than raise taxes to pay for bigger government. He made that commitment in writing to the people of Georgia.” Yet while the good people of Georgia may really want to reform government rather than raise taxes to pay for bigger government, the majority of their countrymen do not. In 1984, Walter Mondale’s promise to raise taxes was the kiss of death for his presidential campaign; in 2012, after over twenty years of Grover Norquist’s anti-tax crusade, Barack Obama made raising taxes the linchpin of his campaign, and was decisively reelected.

Not only has Norquist spectacularly failed to convince the American people that an out-of-control megastate that confiscates the fruit of the labors of the industrious is to be rejected; he has also tied the Republican Party to a disastrously self-defeating posture toward Islamic supremacism. Rep. Frank Wolf (R-VA) called Norquist out for this on the House floor in October 2011, saying of the anti-tax hero: “Documentation shows that he has deep ties to supporters of Hamas and other terrorist organizations that are sworn enemies of the United States and our ally Israel.” He pointed out that “around the years 2000 and 2001, Mr. Norquist’s firm represented Abdurahman Alamoudi, who was convicted two years later for his role in a terrorist plot and who is presently serving a 23-year sentence in federal prison.”

Norquist, reported Wolf, “also associated with terror financier Sami Al-Arian, according to Mary Jacoby’s reporting in March 2003, in the St. Petersburg Times. Al-Arian pled guilty in 2006 ‘to a charge of conspiring to provide services to the Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ), a specially designated terrorist organization, in violation of U.S. law,’ and is under house arrest, according to a Department of Justice press release. The Palestinian Islamic Jihad’s ‘paramilitary wing—the al-Quds Brigades—has conducted numerous attacks, including large-scale suicide bombings,’ according to the National Counterterrorism Center.”

These are the kinds of people for whom Norquist opened doors. Norquist, said Wolf, “served as a key facilitator between Al-Arian, Alamoudi and the White House.…In June 2001, Al-Arian was among the members of the American Muslim Council invited to the White House complex.…The next month, the National Coalition to Protect Political Freedom — a civil liberties group headed by Al-Arian — gave Norquist an award for his work to abolish the use of secret intelligence evidence in terrorism cases.”

Wolf also pointed out that Norquist tied his anti-tax work to his agitation for Islamic supremacist causes: he “even used Americans for Tax Reform to circulate a petition in support of the ‘Ground Zero Mosque,’ ” which 70% of Americans opposed. “Why would Americans for Tax Reform,” Wolf asked, “circulate a petition in support of the ‘Ground Zero Mosque?’  For the families of those who lost loved ones on 9/11 or during operations in the War on Terror, concerns about the ‘Ground Zero Mosque’ were neither a ploy nor a distraction, as Norquist described it.”

Meanwhile, for fear of crossing Norquist and losing his favor, Republicans for years have been turning a blind eye to all his ties to shady Muslim individuals and groups. If they signed his tax pledge, they were effectively pledging also not to make trouble about the access and influence he was facilitating for people linked to the Muslim Brotherhood. Thus was removed the only possible effective counterweight to the Democrats’ active collaboration with Islamic supremacists.

But now Norquist has failed. Taxes are going up. Opposing new taxes is not a winning issue in elections. The Republican Party, after being unable or unwilling to offer a genuine choice, rather than an echo, to the Democrats’ socialist pandering, is in well-deserved ruins. But there may be a silver lining. What is left of the American opposition now has a chance to jettison not only Norquist’s failed tax pledge, as Chambliss has done, but also come out against his enabling of Muslim Brotherhood infiltration. Why should this failed tax crusader continue to hold the loyal opposition hostage?

Of course, there may be a few politicians out there who genuinely oppose Big Government, and want to come out publicly against further tax increases. More power to them, I say, and I hope they have solid job prospects in the private sector. But in the meantime, for their convenience I offer, as an alternative to Norquist’s toxic cocktail of No Taxes Plus Collaboration with Islamic Supremacists, a genuinely pro-freedom tax pledge. Call it the Robert Spencer Tax Pledge. Here it is: “I solemnly pledge to oppose new tax increases, to work to cut existing tax rates, and to oppose Muslim Brotherhood infiltration in our government and the concomitant dismantling of our resistance to the jihad and Islamic supremacism.”

There. I invite any and all politicians to take that pledge. So now Republicans (and Democrats) can’t say they have no alternative to Grover Norquist. It’s time for new approaches, and so here is one.

Meanwhile, a toast to Saxby Chambliss. He may be just another self-serving hack feeding at the public trough, but he has managed to do the right thing, even if by accident: he has thrown off the deleterious influence of the thoroughly compromised Norquist. For that alone, even though he did it for the wrong reasons, he may one day deserve to be called a statesman.

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  • AdinaK

    The fact that Grover was ever allowed, into any of Washington's power centers, is a blight upon those who courted his entry. And Karl Rove, in order to woo Muslim/Arab votes, sold a pig in a poke to the Repub party. To America too.

    Norquist has been a Muslim operative 'hiding in plain sight' and must be brought up on charges of subversion. Seek and you shall find –

    And the Repub party is dancing to Islamic tunes, except for Rep Bachmann and a few of her allies –

    But most know that the Dems have sold out long ago- <a href="http://-” target=”_blank”>- – and more evidence is found here too –

    Time to clean house, and don't miss major operative Huma Abedin (and many others too!) on the way to the clean up!

    Adina Kutnicki, Israel – <a href="” target=”_blank”>

    • Attila The Hun

      Agreed, Norquist is a closet Islamist who's sole purpose is to force The Republicans to turn a blind eye toward Islamization of America, just like the Democrats. And cleverly he founded the way with his anti tax charade to hide his real goal. It's time to expose him for who he is.

      • Lady_Dr

        EXACTLY RIGHT. NOrquest is okay on taxes. But he is not a loyal American. Incidently he is married to a Muslim woman.

        • Mary Sue

          What was that in the Old Testament? Don't marry women of other religions "For they will surely turn your hearts after Other gods". He failed that one hard.

    • JacksonPearson
  • cynthia crran

    I agree Grover should go its the tea party and grassroots Republicans that still admire Grover for being anti-tax but states like Texas have other factors in being successful than low taxes like energy projection which was not emphasized enough. If low taxes were everything to economic growth why is it that Texas has an unemployment of 6.8 percent and Nevada at11.0 percent. Nevada also does not have a state income tax Another question Grover also favoed high immirgation levels whetther people or high or low skilled how can you starved government if you import poor people with low skills.

  • Loyal Achates

    I hate to break it to you all, but if the US ever wants to pay the debts we've incurred fighting foreign wars and keeping taxes at historic lows, we have to raise revenue. You can't pay your debts by cutting your own income; you need to cut wasteful government spending, raise revenue, and whenever possible re-direct government resources towards useful investments.

    • Lady_Dr

      No, we just need to cut wasteful, and usually illegal spending. NO TAX INCREASES are necessary. In fact they are counter productive. Even JFK cut taxes. Cutting taxes increases government revenues you troll.
      "Direct government resoruces towards useful investments." The government's definition of investments is spending
      -There were NO Federal Income taxes before WOODROW WISON was POTUS, and then they were 'temporary.' This is a country founded on a tax revolt..
      What we need to do is follow the 10th Amendment. With that we could eliminate the Depts. of H&HS, Agriculture, Education (a gift from Jimmy Carter to the teachers's unions), Energy, and a WHOLE lot of other things which are best done by the individual states.

    • Mary Sue

      Except that if you raise taxes TOO high, you actually get cuts to revenue incoming.

    • richard

      The only problem with raising revenue is that, unfortunately, there will always be some reason to keep the taxes high and in-place.

    • Diogones

      I hate to break it to YOU but Obama spent more on Afghanistan in his first two years in office than Bush spent on both Afghanistan and Iraq in eight years.

  • Ar'nun

    Robert- I hate to disagree with you, but I must. What is this fascination with Grover Norquist? Why is his pledge important? Last time I checked, Saxby Chambliss was an elected official, Norquist isn't. If Grover Norquist has so many great ideas, and cares so much, then he should have come out and defeated Obama, and then his words would have been more than just some silly pledge. Actions speak louder than words.

    • Leebo

      The Pledge the "honorable" people took was to the People of the United States, not Grover. There are many people who will not and cannot run for an office. Most of the RINO's on this board must not have seen how the Republicans were raked over the coals by the even handed 5th Estate. Saxby Chambliss is a pathetic liar. He took a pledge. He will ot honor it because he wants to be loved by the NY and LA Times. Guess what Saxby, they will still hate you.
      I suggest you read the "offer" made by the Campaigner in Chief (actually by the Tax Cheat Geithner) He wants to take over the economy. He wants no Congressional oversite.
      What is a Robert Spencer?

  • κατεργάζομαι

    Kapitol Kabuki Theatre. –


    • Loyal Achates

      That would shrink the economy.

      • κατεργάζομαι

        Replying to Loyal Achates – "That would shrink the economy. "

        RE: HA! HA! HA! – My sweet Aeneas.

        While notable for a lack of character development, Achates, your ability as a sit-down comic is a real gemstone.

        • Loyal Achates

          Mitt and the GOP admitted as much back during the campaign…in an interview he was asked 'Would you balance the budget right away?' he replied 'No, that would shrink the economy by 5%". There was no outrage from the Republicans…why? Because they know it's true, and they're not yet crazy enough that they'll willfully destroy the US all at once.

          • Reason_For_Life

            That's because government spending is considered to be part of the GDP. Cut spending and you cut the GDP.

            Of course, that's absurd. There is no "product" in pure spending. Government expenditures merely redistribute goods and services from productive parts of the economy to politically favored and less productive parts of the economy. Government spending reduces productivity and in the long run is tremendously destructive.

            Both the Republicans and the Democrats adhere to Keynesian economics, a failed theory that has wrecked havoc in every country that attempted to live by its absurd principles. The only thing that increases GDP is increased goods and services and that can only be accomplished by increased productivity through free market action.

          • κατεργάζομαι

            Replying to Loyal Achates – "That would shrink the economy. "

            If you were registered, Loyal Achates, one could follow your comments for their context. Moreover, you would know that my comment on your character was a play on the Aeneid,

            Kindly examine a few of my 5000-plus registered comments for content. It is clearly evident that I give homage to Friedman's ideas, and am a Friedrich von Hayek-kind of Conservative with absolutely zero regard for Keynesian economics….

            I don't care whom is Standard Bearer for John Maynard Keynes.

      • Mary Sue

        on what PLANET is spending more than you take in, sound economic policy?

      • κατεργάζομαι

        If the Government does not severely cut its spending, dial back its out of control entitlements, and stop inflating the money supply by borrowing and printing money……

        …..America will have a Greece fire.

        …………Sorry to throw you a Laffer Curve, Loyal Achates, sir.


        • Mary Sue

          some semi-local moron said that it was "right wing policies" that did in Europe because they thought "austerity" caused the problem.

          The dude didn't realize that part of austerity is HUGE tax hikes, and that's left wing as anything.

  • BLJ

    Grover's closeness with some Muslims concerns me. The key to getting rid of the debt is:

    1) Cut and monitor spending
    2) Lower tax rates. This will cause wealthy people to stop hiding that money and put more it back into the economy which will generate more revenue. Even the Dems God JFK understood this.

  • Spencer Must Go

    Mr. Spencer, you are clearly nothing more than a professional character assassin on the Chernick dole.

    Thanks for the three day vacation. It gave me time to track down the real names of most of the DEBKA subscribers. I posted them here:

    It is a shame this website no longer engages accurate, free speech when it contradicts the goals of Hasbarism.

    • Ar'nun

      Hasbara – refers to public relations efforts to disseminate information about Israel.[1][2] The term is used by the Israeli government and its supporters to describe efforts to explain government policies and promote Israel in the face of negative press, and to counter what they see as delegitimisation of Israel around the world. Hasbara means "explanation", and is also a euphemism for propaganda.[3][4][5][6]

      So whats so wrong about that?

    • Mary Sue

      Zat you, Schlomotion? Happy eternal nakba, you idiot.

    • Mary Sue

      oh no wait, it's The Liar.

    • Drakken

      If you support and defend muslim savages over our western ally Israel, that makes you an enemy of us all. Good luck in the future, the lamposts of the west will be filled with collabrators and traitors like you soon enough.

    • Mary Sue

      ohnoes wait, Shlockmotion IS The Liar!

    • JacksonPearson

      “In Any War Between the Civilized Man and the Savage, Support the Civilized Man. Support Israel. Defeat Jihad.” —-Pamela Geller

  • doubleblack

    Why was the debka post just pulled down?

  • Reason_For_Life

    It's amazing that this site will sing the praises of Pat Cadell (whose extraordinary incompetence in running political campaigns has assumed almost legendary proportions) when he spends his time chastising Republicans for not being more like Democrats in wanting big government programs, Yet, Ron Paul and Grover Norquist who both favor smaller government get viciously attacked as anti-Semites.

    If you oppose big government you will be attacked by this site as an anti-Semite no matter what other positions you hold. It's pretty clear that the real enemy of isn't Islamic supremacism, it's individual liberty. If you think that someone has a right to build on his own property even if that someone hold despicable views, then you are an anti-Semite. If you oppose all foreign aid then you are anti-Israel. If you've ever suggested that 4th and 5th Amendments rights be respected then you are a supporter of terrorism.

    Unfortunately, Frontpagemag has become nothing more than a mouthpiece for big government. This was inevitable. When you're primary focus is in "fighting evil" you very quickly come to the conclusion that any means of doing so is valid, so long as it is "less evil" than the evil you're fighting. "By any means necessary" has always been the battle cry of tyrants.

    "Frontpagemag Must Go!"

    • Loyal Achates

      It's hard top be for small government AND an international empire that is constantly at war…apparently ol' DH never really stopped being a Commie after all.

      • Reason_For_Life

        I could understand an article that said something to the effect "It's a shame that Grover Norquist who's done yeoman work in keeping politicians feet to the fire on the subject of taxes, has failed to see the malevolence of Islamic totalitarianism. We truly regret having to hold his feet to the fire on this issue but we must condemn him for his horrible views on this subject".

        However, that's not what we see. We see the attempt to tie low taxes to terrorism and Islamic fascism. Is Norquist a bad guy for helping certain at least dubious causes? Or is he a bad guy for favoring smaller government? With Ron Paul it's even more absurd. RP was one of very few Republicans that refused to condemn Israel for attacking Saddam Hussein's Osirak nuclear reactor. He said that Israel had every right to act for what it saw as its own defense.

        • Ar'nun

          Just because we don't swallow the Ron Paul Isolationist mantra, doesn't mean we are for big Government. Seiously, when you start mentioning empires or warmongering, you just sound like an ignorant Obama troll. It's just sad that your understanding of International interests are so limited that any movement beyond the Conteinental US is labeled so ignorantly. The US is isolationist in nature, they were Isolationists until Pearl Harbor got bombed. Our Troops had practicly no presence in the Middle East on 9/11/01.

          • Reason_For_Life

            You are a good example of exactly what I mean. Nowhere did I mention warmongering or empires yet you "heard" that when I mentioned Ron Paul. The point that I made was pretty clear. Big government types get a pass on this site and limited government, constitutionalists and libertarians get attacked.

          • Reason_For_Life

            I do not subscribe to the theory that Muslims attacked us because of US troops in the Middle East. Islamic antipathy to individual liberty is well established. It is far more likely that the Muslims' perceived attack on them was actually more of an "attack" on their medieval values by American freedom than any troop presence.

            American's comparative freedom of expression is hated in more places than the Middle East. Even Canada attacks our First Amendment because they see it as encouraging "hate speech". It was particularly disgusting when Obama attacked an anti-Islamic film maker instead of defending our dedication to free speech.

    • Drakken

      Norquist is a muslim traitor and has to go, period. The economy no matter what these idiot pols do is like the Titanic and it is going to sink.

    • JacksonPearson

      You're a classic example of WHY dinosaurs survived with walnut sized brains.

      • Reason_For_Life

        Cockroaches have only a few hundred brain cells and they have survived much longer than dinosaurs so you can expect to live a long life eating dirt.

        • JacksonPearson

          Your comment is swimming in boredom. Grab an anchor….

    • Lucifer Dye

      Cadell may be incompetent, but next to Dick(head) Morris he's the oracle of Delphi.

      • Reason_For_Life

        Based on how wrong Dick Morris has been about everything I agree with you. I sometimes think that Morris is a weird kind of double agent.

  • Snakes Beware

    Whenever you hear the word Tax coming from the lips of people in Congress and in the Lap Dog Media, they are only referring to Federal Taxes. Americans pay a hell of a lot more in taxes to their towns, counties, cities, and states, much of which is disguised as FEES and TOLLS, etc. than they do to the Federal government. Given the combination of ALL these taxes our motto should be "Not Another Dime In Any Form of Taxes." We need to stand firm on that promise to ourselves. We need a tax revolt in this nation, most people are sick of our various government agencies. If we do not find a way to cut the snakes head off (Executive branch) and cripple the snakes body (Congress) in 2014 you can begin to count the days we have left before the collapse takes place. Time is running out.

    The snakes head can be taken off by just finding a way to show America the criminal evidence that has already been investigated and gathered and ready to be used against the head. The revolt that is necessary to crush the body (Congress) has to happen in the 2014 election as it did in the 2010 election. The machine is still in place to accomplish that mission.

  • flyingtiget

    amen, robert. Another good essay.

  • Questions

    Grover wrote a piece for the June 2001 issue of The American Spectator arguing that it was the Muslim vote that gave Bush his margin of victory over Gore the previous November. On this basis, he advocated drastically boosting Islamic immigration as a long-term Republican victory strategy. Three months later, we saw first-hand the consequences of such immigration.

  • RedBaker

    Grover is right on taxes and wrong on Islamists. His stance on Muslim influence is a distraction.

    In 2014 Democrats must defend 23 Senate seats, 21 of which are liable to a good Republican challenge. Republicans must defend only 10 Senate seats, 8 of which are probably safe. When Democrats in 2014 have no more excuses for the crummy economy, they will take another severe beating in the midterm elections. Grover's tax stance will be an important part of that campaign. Just say no to higher tax rates.

  • semus

    I had no idea of Norquist stand on the murdering muslims,

  • MotherGoose

    I'm, with you Robert. Where do I sign up?

  • J. Denney

    i don't think that condemning Norquist for his flirtation with Islamists is a justification for selling out the economy of America. Notrquist is right on the money regarding the tax issue, and wrong to play with terrorists. Spencer, I read you and admire you, but the future of this country is more important than stabbing Norquist in the back like this for his mistakes vis-a-vis Islamism, which is your obsession, and my concern. an economically strong, debt free America is the best defense against Islamism.

  • cynthia crran

    Both Norquist and Paul favor legalizing illegal immirgants which expands illegal immirgants because of their absurd view that you should be able to hire people even with falsed ID's.

  • Arlie

    From your report it shows how Grover Norquist used and tricked Republicans and George W Bush too. That is when the infiltrations and massive immigration began..under GWB. I agree with your pledge and that Grover (including the muppet Grover) must GO. Not only that but he must be outed for the snake that he obviously has been to the political system of the country.

  • cynthia crran

    Also, Grover agree with Bush on booasting hispanic owenership which helped triggered the housing bubble.

  • Horace

    Silent George(W Bush) has nothing to say to help his country, even though his grandkids have to grow up here. The last thing he said about Islam was "Islam is the religion of peace."He overthrew secular Sadam in support of his Saudi a. h. buddies. Lots of Repubs are silent on Jihad. The Obam gang is killing or humiliating the US armed forces in Afghanistan with its ridiculous rules of engagement and is downright submissive to the Muslims and helping the Muslim Brothers in Jihad, while staging a few undocumented drone attacks here and there (Where are the BinLaden pictures?) before surrendering to the Taliban. Looks like aiding the enemy to me. Israel has its Quislings too. Sadam was the least of their worries it turns out. Zippy Livni is up and running again to organize surrender to Hamas and Hizbollah.(The donations from the suicidal left must be good.) Netanyahu caved to Obama, Morsi & Hamas. Grover is just cashing in (and humoring his wife) and milking the Saudi oil money cow. You'll never get rid of a master manipulator like Grover.

  • cynthia crran

    Personality, Grover stupid views of having low taxes will milions and millions of immirgants leads to a lot of debt or the Democratic gaining power. Norquist will support the chamber of commerce need for immirgation to the point that the Democratics get a knew people for elections.

    • JINGOIST101

      Cynthia….WHAT?__I'm going on the assumption that English is your 2nd language. Please have someone else type your thoughts onto this screen. I'd love a genuine conversation. :-)

  • Guest

    Horace, looking at Grover's unshaven face, I think he is more than just humoring his Muslim wife; I think he is a Muslim, and not of the 'secular' variety.

    • Mary Sue

      either that or he just simply got suckered in by the hot wife and she slowly turned him like a fifth column marriage.

  • mah29001

    "Grover Norquist Must Go"

    Yes he should. :)

  • carrie

    Norquist likes to stay under the radar but if you keep looking you'll find he has been arse deep in islam since the 1990's. He is a middleman between extrermists and moneymen .He absolutely cannot be trusted.
    His wife isn't just a muslim, she is a hardcore Palestinian .

    • JINGOIST101

      This is possible, but God knows that I hope you're wrong.

      Norquist has been one of the MOST important figures in this dire struggle against a central government that views us as cattle, to be controlled; rather than citizens who MUST be consulted.

      There's NOTHING about islam that informs his political activism towards smaller, more Constitutional government. They are seperate issues.c


    Robert, I couldn't agree with you more about the ever-present, and growing threat of islam to America. I've purchased all of your books and refer to them regularly. But you've conflated two VITAL issues by stepping out of your comfort zone in your attempt to discredit Grover Norquist.

    To the extent that Grover cavorts with islamists and islamofascists, he NEEDS to be called out! I'm with you there 100%. No arguments.

    BUT, it's even more important that Grover's "No New Taxes" pledge to the American people be kept and honored. This has NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with his real or imagined ties to islamofascists and terrorists. This pledge is absolutely vital when it comes to constraining an absolutely out-of-control, tyrannical central government in Washington, DC. These pledges were made by these politicians to their constituents, period.

    Islamic fascism and terrorism is the second biggest threat faced by America: An absolutely out of control federal LEVIATHAN is our biggest danger. The No New Taxes pledge is one of the bulwarks of that struggle against the Leviathan.

    Robert, please don't conflate the two issues. Thanks. :-)

  • Brian

    Apparently no one here villifying Norquist over his tax stance, Mr. Spencer in particular, have ever heard of or understood the economic principles of the Laffer curve or Hauser's Law. The Laffer Curve states that there is a "sweet spot" of moderate taxation that promotes economic activity which in turn generates the most tax revenue. Tax too low and revenues drop. Tax too high and revenues drop as people engage in tax – avoidance strategies. Hauser's Law states that tax revenues will never exceed about 19% fo the GDP no matter how high the tax rate. Both have been proven by economic history since the advent of the 20th century. The call for higher taxation by Democrats and now, Republicans like Saxby Chambliss fly in the face of factual history and these economic principles.

    • JINGOIST101

      Thank you for that informative post, Brian! The simple laws of economics don't care what our political differences happen to be at any given moment: They just ARE!!

      The political left HATES Grover Norquist for the correct reasons; he's everything they despise–limited government incarnate.

      We need to remember not to throw our own overboard for their imperfections, real or imagined.

  • UraFecalLiberal

    People like Hillary Clinton, Obama, Holder and the entire Radical Left Wing do not encourage treasonous infiltration for free. They are well compensated or will be in the future. Same with Grover. Check out the large endowments for Harvard and other Ivy League training camps for America's future leaders, and other large contributions from the Saudis, Kuwait, Qatar, and other wahhabis.

    It's all about money.

  • cynthia curran

    Well, just because Grover is good on one issue and very bad on Islam and immirgation-Gorver stated he wanted to legalized all the illegal immirgants a vast increase in the welfare state and Grover supported Bush to increase minority ownership during the housing bubble. Grover is as the left state mainly intererested in the business class not the common man since he not only wants low taxes but lots and lots of guestworker programs. For exaple, Tom Tancredo doesn't support the legalization of every illegal hispanic and every guestworker program and he is against increasing taxes.

  • Cucumber Soup

    Here is a cool and refreshing menu idea; let's defeat the DNC, statists, marxists, before petty snipping.

  • Michael Harris

    Thanks for exposing him. I was aware of it and his Islamist wife but doubt many people are

  • Lucifer Dye

    Grover is over.

  • Asher

    Many have been suspicious of Norquist for a long time…never be fooled that there are no Republican progressives who support the Islamic movement!

  • cynthia curran

    Well, Grover immirgation views were involved in causing 9-11 and increase the votes for Obama, and caused the welfare state to go up since the Dems have a new group-Muslims to get votes.. Just because the left hates Grover on tax cuts doesn't mean we have to defend someone who is buddies with Islam to the point it could effective our nation's secuirty or bring in thousands of immirgants that hate the us or are very low skilled since Grover unlike even Rubio wants a pathway to Citzenship for all illegal hispanics.

  • cynthia curran

    Grover also supports cutting defense not as much as Paul but he has been moving in the Ron Paul direciotn. for Tax cuts are important but too many Republicans and Libertarians buy into that tax cuts can solved everything. For example take Texas Versus Nevada both don't have a State tax income but Texas is doing well since it didn't have a housing bubble, its harder to get a loan in Texas for ;your mortagage than in Nevada. Romeny could have won on being honest rise interest rates which would cause a lot of the housing market to go underwater but housing prices would have bottom out more instead Romeny was told to just down tax rates which turn off some of the blue collar class. Romeny could have done both deal with the housing bubble messed and tax rates.

  • Shery

    The only thing I ever agreed with Grover on was the issue of no tax hikes, and I still do that. Saxby Chambliss is my senator and I'm not real happy with his recent move toward hiking taxes. If we cannot get an real agreement on spending cuts then NO NEW TAXES. If we cannot get spending cuts, no amount of new revenue will EVER be enough.