Muslims in Saudi Arabia Call for Monitoring Mosques

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And in the summer of 2011 came another study showing that only 19% of mosques in U.S. don’t teach jihad violence and/or Islamic supremacism.

Specifically:

A random survey of 100 representative mosques in the U.S. was conducted to measure the correlation between Sharia adherence and dogma calling for violence against non-believers. Of the 100 mosques surveyed, 51% had texts on site rated as severely advocating violence; 30% had texts rated as moderately advocating violence; and 19% had no violent texts at all. Mosques that presented as Sharia adherent were more likely to feature violence-positive texts on site than were their non-Sharia-adherent counterparts. In 84.5% of the mosques, the imam recommended studying violence-positive texts. The leadership at Sharia-adherent mosques was more likely to recommend that a worshiper study violence-positive texts than leadership at non-Sharia-adherent mosques. Fifty-eight percent of the mosques invited guest imams known to promote violent jihad. The leadership of mosques that featured violence-positive literature was more likely to invite guest imams who were known to promote violent jihad than was the leadership of mosques that did not feature violence-positive literature on mosque premises.

That means that around 1,700 mosques in the U.S. are preaching hatred of infidels and justifying violence against them. As Pamela Geller asks: “You think there will never be any consequences of that?”

Yet U.S. officials continue to ignore this and to assume that all Muslims in the United States completely abhor the jihadist and Islamic supremacist imperative to bring Sharia to the West. They consider mosques to be simply houses of worship, full of civic-minded and proud American citizens and immigrants to the United States who are anxious to pursue the American dream and grateful for constitutional freedoms and protections.

The Saudis “religious scholars and academics” who called upon the Ministry of Islamic Affairs, Endowment, Call and Guidance to monitor mosques in the Kingdom are more realistic. They know that jihadist point to numerous texts and teachings of Islam to justify violence, and that warfare against unbelievers is not a twisting or hijacking of Islamic doctrine, but something that is taught by all the mainstream sects and schools of Islamic jurisprudence. Consequently they know that only careful monitoring can ensure that jihad plotting will not go on in the nation’s mosques – and of course, in calling for such monitoring, they are not hampered by politically correct dogma that would label any such call “Islamophobic.”

Indeed, Sheikh Abdullah Al-Manie, whom Arab News identified as “a member of the Council of Senior Religious Scholars and adviser at the Royal Court,” rooted his call for monitoring of the mosques in Islamic teaching, saying: “Those who seek to destabilize the country and fight against security forces come under the category of ‘those who rebel against Allah and His Messenger’ and a country’s legitimate government and hence should be punished severely.”

Sheikh Abdullah was referring to the Qur’an, which says that “the penalty for those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and strive upon earth [to cause] corruption is none but that they be killed or crucified or that their hands and feet be cut off from opposite sides or that they be exiled from the land” (5:33). He wasn’t objecting to the waging of jihad against unbelievers, but only to the directing of jihad activity against the Saudi royals.

Nonetheless, it is striking that for whatever reason it was issued, a call could go out in Saudi Arabia for the monitoring of mosques, when anyone who raises the issue in the United States is immediately branded as a racist paranoiac raising unjust suspicions against loyal citizens. Yet as the surveys of mosques in the U.S. have established, what is happening in mosques there could be happening in mosques here.  If only we had a Ministry of Islamic Affairs, Endowment, Call and Guidance to keep mosques in the U.S. on the straight and narrow – but then again, the way things are going, we will soon enough.

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  • SKIP

    And this revelation surprises WHOM????

  • Schlomotion

    Mr. Spencer would like you to think that the reason Muslims in Saudi Arabia call for monitoring mosques is because even they know Islamic extremism is a threat. That is not the whole truth. The whole truth is that really hardcore Muslims are saying things like "look at that corrupt House of Saud that tacks its name onto all of Arabia and places a trillion dollars into US banks so they can drink our oil and later shoot us with drones." And this week they are saying "look at the House of Saud who works with Israel and the USA to kill Qadhafi and Assad."

    That's why, especially in Riyadh, the interior ministers are taking their best paid bishops and monitoring mosques. It's because Muslims are openly talking in church about killing the royal family. I'm not a Muslim or an Arab and even I know that.

    • Icefront

      Its funny you "know" what they are saying, without being an Arab, muslim, and anywhere near the Saudi Arabia.
      Your hatred towards US and Israel is transparent ( work with Israel and USA to kill Assad ? conspiracy loon, Israel has nothing to gain from killing Assad, besides maybe saving the Syrians from genocide, but don't worry the UN is all over that).

      Oh, and Muslims usually don't tend to Churches.

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

      And if they hate the house of saud they hate the great satan even more.

      You are a hack.

    • Beagle

      Spencer knew before you in his next to last paragraph. Not reading before trolling just makes you look (even more) stupid. You're welcome.

      • Schlomotion

        He manages to get around to it. But that is not the main focus of the article, it is more of a quickly spat disclaimer so that he can get on with indulging his great fantasy without being heckled to death by factcheckers who also have access to the news.

        That is why the article begins with a dramatic bait and switch, followed by blowback, followed by a stupid argument that Muslims have joined the Islamophobic bandwagon, then "corroborates" the blowback with appeals to authority and arguments from silence, and most importantly….

        Claims as an "American authority" the anonymous website Mapping Sharia Project, which is a proxy domained front group run by one of his affiliated people, Jewish racist David Yerushalmi.

        Mr. Spencer knows that most of his readers are semi-literate, don't care about details, and can't figure things out for themselves. That is why he weighted all the dumb stuff at the beginning and smuggled a measly disclaimer fact in the penultimate paragraph.

        • Beagle

          Funny how we can't figure anything out and yet you obviously didn't read the article until I humiliated you.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            That's our Schlo.

          • Zionista

            shmo is a masochistic Jew hater – trolls on this site for his daily fix of humiliation

        • objectivefactsmatter

          "He manages to get around to it. But that is not the main focus of the article, it is more of a quickly spat disclaimer so that he can get on with indulging his great fantasy without being heckled to death by factcheckers who also have access to the news."

          You haven't made the case that your point is salient, and it's not. Why? Because the Saudi's are correct. They have a claim to legitimacy that they can't be as open about. They are taking a passive jihad role and any intelligent Saudi jihadi with patience would realize that the Saudi government has much better plans to destroy the West than Bin Laden or his idiot copycats are coming up with.

          The Saudis are the true Jihadis with the plan most likely to succeed in restoring the Caliphate. How about that?

          So what was your point after all? I don't speak for Spencer because he's not discerning enough about who he associates with professionally, but I respect his own views enough to consider his judgment might be superior to mine when he does things I disagree with. Having said that, I believe his point is that Islamic texts and core doctrines are fundamentally dangerous. The answer is preventing politicians from cutting short-term deals and allowing states to get away with planning our destruction, and preventing 5th columns and advocates of stealth civilization jihad to continue lying.

          Are you a dupe or a true believer?

          " followed by a stupid argument that Muslims have joined the Islamophobic bandwagon"

          No. He uses sarcasm when people like you don't get it. That is one thing I disagree with. I think that when he is speaking you can sense with his delivery when he's being sarcastic and he apparently thinks that is conveyed when he is publishing text. I say again that I think this is not wise. He should get counseling or a consultant to see if he can attenuate some of the attacks he has to bear if he'll adapt his communication style according to the medium.

          I can understand if this style question has led you to believe falsely about what he writes or his goals.

          I first heard about him when viewing a speech. It was excellent and was without question the first time I had heard that much blunt factual information about Islam in the quasi-mainstream media. I hadn't been looking though so…I spotted it after performing my own fairly serious research using only historical documents. He's really the first one I heard speak about it post-911.

          A long time passed before I stumbled across an article published written by him. I was shocked it was the same person. He had lost some credibility in my mind because it just had a totally different feel.

          Even more time passed and I ran in to more publications and eventually it dawned on me why he is attacked and misinterpreted so frequently. I knows CAIR and the like will attack him, so perhaps it doesn't occur to him that he really could optimize his deliver to win over some skeptics who I think would listen to reason. His positions are reasonable, most of the time if you account for frequent sarcasm.

          He is a brilliant, flawed and probably very stressed individual. I only know what I see in public about him.

          "Mr. Spencer knows that most of his readers are semi-literate, don't care about details, and can't figure things out for themselves. That is why he weighted all the dumb stuff at the beginning and smuggled a measly disclaimer fact in the penultimate paragraph."

          You don't know much about him and have to assume your liberal bias is based on solid intuition. You're just as bad as the unthinking hard right that you attack. Think critically AND look at both sides of the issues with equal allowances during your process of gathering evidence. Then you won't have to rely on flawed intuition that shows your bias.

          • Schlomotion

            Taken at face value, what I read you saying here is that the Saudi royal family has a legitimate claim to running Saudi Arabia and are smarter and better equipped to wage jihad against the West. That's a lot to mentally process, not because it's deep, but because you said that Kings have a right to rule kingdoms and we are not in the Middle Ages. The part about the royal family having a better long term game plan seems to me to be unrelated to Islam and more related to staying rich and staying in power while keeping the country poor and backward. Some long term goal!

            You also state that Mr. Spencer is more intelligible in person. I have seen many of his videos on YouTube or footage of him, and I think he comes across the same way verbally as he does in text, that is histrionic, smarmy, belligerent, tyrannical, Napoleonic, and with a stacked deck. I agree that he should tone down the sarcasm, but not because I don't get it, rather because generally sarcasm is not delivered well and Mr. Spencer uses it to renege on his statements at later dates, usually face to face confrontations or when someone takes his implicit advice and kills someone.

            He may possibly be brilliant, but at least in the case of Bruce Bawer, the brilliance comes out once in a while in between all the rhetoric and hatred. Periodically, Mr. Bawer can still pull it together to do a heartfelt disavowal of bad actors, a decent and warm eulogy, or a cogent expression of patriotism. Mr. Spencer seems to utterly lack this literary and forthright side by comparison, and it is a greater detriment to humanity than his sarcasm.

            I don't have liberal bias. It is not liberal bias to criticize someone who collects money mainly in the context of insulting his audience from behind a phalanx of hired guards. If that were the case, then criticizing Elijah Muhammad would be an example of liberal bias.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Would you be more comfortable if iranian clerics were running the Saudi Kingdom?

          • objectivefactsmatter

            I am giving the Islamic perspective, not agreeing with it at all. We are trying to understand the Saudi view. No?

            I want Islam destroyed by exposing the lies. The Saudis are consistent and correct. They have the right to direct Jihad activities and have chosen a centrally-planned stealth program. Just look at mosque construction since 9/11 2001.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            "Taken at face value, what I read you saying here is that the Saudi royal family has a legitimate claim to running Saudi Arabia"

            According to Shia law, yes they do.

            "and are smarter and better equipped to wage jihad against the West."

            Obviously they are.

            "That's a lot to mentally process, not because it's deep, but because"

            Because you have a superficial understanding of Islam, yet propagate your beliefs about it maniacally anyway.

            "you said that Kings have a right to rule kingdoms"

            Nope, Sharia says that.

            "and we are not in the Middle Ages"

            We aren't but they are retard. That is the point.

            "The part about the royal family having a better long term game plan seems to me to be unrelated to Islam and more related to staying rich and staying in power while keeping the country poor and backward. Some long term goal! "

            It's almost as if the Saudis totally reject Western values. How about that? BTW, the "getting rich" part is part of the plan. They've already used this wealth to plant mosques around the world, many of which are directly responsible for jihad murder crimes. And this is how they operate now on the "DL."

          • objectivefactsmatter

            "I don't have liberal bias"

            Few people are aware of their biases, troll.

            "It is not liberal bias to criticize someone who collects money mainly in the context of insulting his audience from behind a phalanx of hired guards."

            It sure can be, and in this case it certainly is. Facts matter in most suppositions. You posted a personal attack against someone for emotional reasons. Do you work for free?

            Unpack this for me please, Mr. troll:

            "collects money mainly in the context of insulting his audience"

            You are biased. Blind to be sure, and extreme.

            "If that were the case, then criticizing Elijah Muhammad would be an example of liberal bias"

            Do you even know what you've said?

  • joe get

    "in Riyadh, the interior ministers are taking their best paid bishops" and "Muslims are openly talking in church".

    And you're criticising Spencer? Jesus…you know a whole bunch about islam, don't you?

  • Alex Kovnat

    If it weren't for oil and our nation's (and the world's) appetite for same, Saudi Arabia would not be as rich a country as they are. Osama Bin Laden's father became a billionaire because of oil-related construction contracts. Ironically, the people of Arabia didn't have a thing in the world to worry about regarding the western world's threats to their value system, until oil was discovered in the middle east. Until oil was discovered, who in the USA or anywhere else outside the middle east, took an interest in how Arabian men treated their women?

    I think we should, if possible, disengage ourselves from the middle east and let the people of Saudi Arabia, Iran, etc., fight it out among themselves. Every time we get involved in their affairs, we get our hands bitten. The impression I have of the middle east, is they bite the hands that help them but lick the hands that hit them.

    • objectivefactsmatter

      The PBS video "Frontline: House of Saud," is of course biased by leaving out so much about Islam, but it is close enough to providing an excellent primer and enough clues that anyone who seriously wants to dig further can trace the problems you refer to. The only thing you might miss is that the Saudi regime is probably playing the stealth jihad long-game rather than being "forced to compromise between radicals at home and the desire to have some kind of modern state compatible with Western values." The clues come when you listen to what they say, and what they don't say about justifying Sharia, and all its messy results.

  • A. Keen Observer

    The Saudis created this monster and it will eat them alive.

    • objectivefactsmatter

      Yeah, they are crazy like foxes. See what Walid Shoebat found in the second king's book about his hoped-for legacy.

      This Frontpage article refers to it:
      "Huma Abedin and The Saudi King’s Manifesto"

      Or search for it on Shoebat's web site and other locations. It''s very edifying.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Still the 'wee' little man.

    You know you're lying about that just as much as about my goat quote. But you don't care about truth, not as a muslim.

    This is why you have no credibilty. You wanteda brutal vigilante death for a suspect and I asked if it was prettier for you than a church burning that you called for in a call to jihad againstChristians.

    And why don't you take this opportunity to say which kind of violence attractsyou the most? Fires of hangings….

    Well little man, can you man up enough to do that?

    You have no credibility. None.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    See, this is typical of a small little man, you pretend that a partial quote is all right to use. Why not leave the question mark at the end? Then go ahead and answer the question, was the vigilante death better for you than the church burning? What kind of violence do you enjoy the most?

    As an agenda driven liar you just don't care about facts, you only want to push your own kind of hate.

    So much muslim loyalty….

    • WTE

      Calm down roger. You need to quit letting your hate fuel you. You're too angry on the inside. I mean to think that a burning church is pretty is just as bad as what I said <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

      • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

        So, you project your hate like everything else.

        I don't advocate for violence, not for vigilante justice, not for a church burning, not for looking the other way during muslim violence.

        Yet you do. So, why not admit you cherish your hate and depend on it?

        You small little man you. So, "Wee"!

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Can you believe the open racism in the muslim church, they won't even allow Jews to remain in the Saudi kingdom, thanks to religion.

    Boy, I bet you can really start ripping on the muslims next, right?

  • fmobler

    Link is dead. Maybe the story did not fact check.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    So I admit you are a racist bigot blinded by your hate.
    And I admit that islam is more racist than any other religion yet you keep attacking Christianity when you ignore a worse religion doing the very things you say you are against.

    So sharia of you.

  • SCREW SOCIALISM

    The "religion" of atheism and its ally islamofascism promote racism, misogyny, fascism.

  • WTE

    Did you read the link on what your church is doing? Are you saying denying a couple a marriage in your church because they are black is NOT racist. sure musliumsdo that so that makes you as bad them <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”RIGHT: auto” dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    It's not my church.

    You are just so full of hate, aren't you?

    And what muslims do is worse, ask the folks in Sudan.

  • objectivefactsmatter

    "Did you read the link on what your church is doing? "

    "Did you read the link on what your church is doing? "

    How stupid are you?

    "Are you saying denying a couple a marriage in your church because they are black is NOT racist. "

    It is so obvious what is truly in dispute that it's hardly worth taking you seriously. Please show text or precedent where racism is fundamental to Christianity or to Judaism.

    Racism is defined as bias exclusively based on perceptions about racial distinctions. The case you cite appears to be racist, and is not supported by any Christian official or even any "believer" who is willing to speak publicly. Rather it seems as if a wedding was modified because of indications that some self-declared Christians fall far short of the teachings of the texts they claim to believe (at most). Probably this is due to the leadership failing to be more discerning about their believers and actual teachings. This shows a failure of individuals, not the belief system.

    I don't expect a positive response from you, but I thought I'd help others articulate an appropriate and clear response because this stupid tactic is so common today since we allowed the entire globe access to modern technology. Clearly the West is so racist based on causing so many nations to become dependent on the Internet. It's another form of abusive colonialism, right?

    The first religion to integrate totalitarian colonialism was which one? Which was the last religions to make totalitarian colonialism fundamental to its faith?

    That means the atrocities that we see consistently every time their are clerics with sovereignty over any person or groups of people, are spelled out and supported in their core texts, doctrines and history. The only dispute is whether certain non-believers "deserved" death for their failure to agree to the revisionist so-called prophet liar and his terms.

    If however, Allah is real and Mohammed was a prophet, then we are all wrong but you. I somehow remain confident in my positions, having reviewed so much hard evidence proving them over the years.

    Get lost or at least get serious if you want to participate in discourse that can lead you out of your failed beliefs. It's obvious to everyone how patient I've been here and I am treating you with far more respect than you've earned. That benefit of the doubt has probably already expired.

  • WTE

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  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    No, that's not accurate wee, you're just such a 'wee' little man.

    What this church did was racist, if the story is reporting it correctly. I don't know they did.

    But what islam is doing in Sudan is ethnic cleansing on religious grounds, people are dying. Don't even pretend the two are equal.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    And where are we taught to do that now?

    You have lost so much I'm surprised they allow you to sit at your work terminal and spew your failed propaganda the way they do.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    So you don't like what the ancient Jews did. I'm sure they don't like it when you call them child murderers.

    And you can't show that Jews do any of that today. So, what's you're point? Islam is doing that kind of thing in this day and age.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Multi part rants again wee? You must be having a hard time, can't get enough of the little flask to calm you nerves down?

  • Ricky Michael

    Numbers 31 – God's judgment against the Kings of Midian.
    1 Samuel 15 – God's judgment against the Amalekites

    Psalms 137 – The Psamlist is writting this (Not God) about his (the Psalmist's) displeasure with Babylon for carring them (Israel) off into captivaty.

    None of this has anything to do with "Christian" behavior. All of it concerns the Hebrews.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Sheesh, that almost sounds violent enough to come from surah 9.

    And sharia is facism with a religious bent. But you never have a problem with that.
    How many parts of this rant do you want shredded?

    I have to wonder what your troll comment quota is.

  • objectivefactsmatter

    Do you know what you are quoting?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Still back to stories that may or may not be true and certainly aren't backed by what Christ taught?Sheesh, you are so full of hate it blinds you.

  • Ricky Michael

    Sure it's in the Bible, as a history lesson about the Hebrews and not a way to act.

    The over-all theme of the OT was to foretell the coming of the Christ. In doing so, you also see the history of the Hebrews, through which the Christ would come.

  • Ricky Michael

    For the Hebrews, Hebrews, Hebrews to carry out the judgment of God, as commanded. Since he (God) was calling the shots, it really doesn't matter much what you might think on the matter. God doesn't need to check with anyone. He makes the rules that you should obey his commands. To find out what YOU, WTE, should do now days to do that, you read the New Testament and follow the teachings of his son, the Christ.

    Your fixation on the Old Testament really isn't accomplishing much. What is it that you are trying to prove? It is not have much effect on anyone on this site.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    So, can you show that it was more than a one time event?
    Can you show it is still being done?
    Can you show it applies at any time in the past 3,000 years?

    Can you admit that this means the Jews have been there longer than the invading muslim arabs from the 8th century?

    Wee, the hate blinds you.
    And you still ignore the kill kill kill religion that matters today, islam.
    No context can make that kind of bigotry right.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    That's one of the reasons I don't do the parallel profiles you admitted to.

    But, don't let the fact I explained that keep you from lying and twisting things around. You have so few talents it would be a real (sarcasm) shame if you didn't use what little you had.

    So much hate, so little of anything else…..

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Can you prove it is?

    Oh, that doesn't matter to you. Vigilante justice on rumors is your style.

  • Ricky Michael

    Perhaps you should look up the definition. A hypocrite says, or thinks one way, yet acts another. History has nothing to do with being a hypocrite.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    And your ability to ignore the present is what makes you a hypocrite.

  • objectivefactsmatter

    "The christians ability to ignore the past is what makes them hypocrites"

    Examples please.

  • Ricky Michael

    Great speach, but it doesn't mean much to me. I try to actually practice what the Bible teaches. Maybe others don't, that, I can't do much about. They have to answer for themselves about that. You will too.

    Life is much, much more than you think it is. Death is nothing but a doorway to somewhere else. You fear death with every word you preach. I don't fear it, I look forward to it.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    And I would think the reformation hundreds of years ago would be proof enough.

    And curiously enough you ignore yesterday's google hits about sharia and islam.

    It oozes from you wee, you small little man you.

  • WTE

    I see it the other way around. You fear death so much that you actually believe their a place you go after you die. Please don't take this the wrong way but if you look forward to it why not kill yourself? <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

  • Ricky Michael

    That's not allowed, that's why. I will be here as long as he wants me here. I also understand the why we are all here.

    I have been trying to tell you why for nearly a year now.

  • Ricky Michael

    I am a Christian. I believe the only way you can get a divorce is because of adultry. Otherwise, I would already be divorced myself. I worked very hard with my Mrs to keep the teaching of the Bible. She did too.

    When are you going to use something that applies to me?

  • WTE

    Well Mr. Michales I can'tfind something that applies to you because you actually follow your relgion. If all christians follow like you I would not have a beef with them. <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

  • Ricky Michael

    You certainly are an interesting person, I'll give you that. You know it does bother me when you group everyone "Carte Blache" and label us all hypocrites, which is not the case.

    You may get back to whatever it is that you are doing. I am going silent again.

  • ★FALCON★

    you're the last one that should be talking about lumping, lumpy.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    And you haven't shown it is.

    You as a muslim friendly liberal troll may trust propaganda from the media, but I like to verify it or even find a second source to make sure one person's hate doesn't color the facts. Like you for example, the hate blinds you.

    Such a small little 'wee' man.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    The hate blinds him.

    Such a 'wee' little man.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Yes you do ignore the reality of the 'now'.

    You ignore the Catholic healthcare system for example and the other charitable work due to Christianity. And you ignore the violence of islam.

    And you are such a small little man because of it. So 'wee'.

    You ignore the reformation, the rejection of Christians to abuse.
    You ignore that the abuses were outside the teachings of Christ, and an indicator they weren't following the teachings of Christianity. You have so much hate you can't breathe half the time.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Just a paid troll at a work terminal spewing propaganda on the clock.

    What a hack.

  • ★FALCON★

    my empty chair is out front with a sign that says "present" on it. Let lumpy contemplate that for awhile.

  • Eyes_open

    "For the Hebrews, Hebrews, Hebrews to carry out the judgment of God, as commanded. Since he (God) was calling the shots, it really doesn't matter much what you might think on the matter. God doesn't need to check with anyone. He makes the rules that you should obey his commands."

    Isn't that what the Jews and Christians are complaining about with regard to the Muslims! "They don't think, they just kill because their god says to." Well, apparently the Jewish god told them the same thing, so what is the difference. The god of both religions, excuse me, all three religions is the same god, each religion descended from one of the others. If they were worshiping a different god they wouldn't be from the same source.

  • Eyes_open

    Does Christ not call for you to "witness" to other Christians? To attempt to help others become better Christians?

  • Eyes_open

    You are outside the teachings of Christ, but you still call yourself a Christian. The hypocrisy is that you consider yourself the one exception to the rule that you attempt to enforce on everyone else.

  • WTE

    You ignore these charties: http://www.squidoo.com/Atheist-Charities <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

  • Ricky Michael

    this is what said to people who were christians………….12 Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling; Phil. Chap. 2

    .

  • Ricky Michael

    The God of the Christians and Jews is not the same as the God of the Muslims. you saying that they are is only your opinion.

    The Bible is not the same as the Quran either.

    You should be very happy that the old law was fullfilled by Christ and a New Convenant was instituted. This New Testament says to treat everyone (your neighbor) like you would be treated. That's what I do. That's what all my christian brothers and sisters should do also.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    And can you show that Christ taught the modern church to do anything of this sort?

    You are a fraud. Ricky may be too nice to call a spade a spade, I'm not bothered by it. You say I'm going against Christianity for explaining and defending my beliefs but then say God is a God that kills. How come killing is all right in your view of God but I'm supposed to be so wimpy I can't even defend Him if I'm not going to go outside my beliefs?

    You silly little pagan, you can't have it both ways.

  • objectivefactsmatter

    >"For the Hebrews, Hebrews, Hebrews to carry out the judgment of God, as commanded. Since he (God) was calling the shots, it really doesn't matter much what you might think on the matter. God doesn't need to check with anyone. He makes the rules that you should obey his commands."

    "Isn't that what the Jews and Christians are complaining about with regard to the Muslims!"

    Not exactly, no but I understand your confusion. It is not simply about "God said' but taken in context of the Bible, the BIBLICAL ancestors took instructions from God but did not instruct anyone to emulate those actions. Rather if they did, it was to emulate them entirely by following God only with reasonable evidence that God wants you to act. See the standards for authenticating prophecy in the Pentateuch, or simply do what most Christians are told to do and turn the other cheek.

    So even though a superficial examination seems to point to similarities, the context is entirely opposite. Islam teaches Muslims to follow their feelings within the confines of Sharia. Judeo Christian texts demand reason and evidence before acting. They call for principles of justice that we know today as Western liberal democracy (though there has been a lot of secular influence since the founding, but little before). Western human rights come from the Bible. Martin Luther was no prophet or saint, but he was the first recorded person in history to successfully demand that all believers must uphold the values as written in the Bible. It took centuries for the fight to get to the point where Darwin could safely publish radical anti-Biblical theories, but it was the Bible that led the culture in that direction. Just study the history of the reformation, and the reaction to King James and his ancestors in Great Britain. You find a straight line from there to the pilgrims, the US Constitution, Bill of Rights, etc.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    And you still don't know the real reasons, perhaps janitorial issues or some other issue was at play, You know that the press is hostile and this church gave them an excuse.

    And of course we all know you're a hate filled bigot that looks for excuses too. But you can't show this Christian church did this due to what Christ taught, I can show that a bombing yesterday due to islam was due to islam and the teachings of mohammed.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Oh look, you can't spread enough hate in one comment.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Funny, you have enough hate and enough of an agenda that you believe anything bad about Christianity.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Tell me silly little pagan.

    Where does Christ teach that I have to let anyone bad mouth my God and sit by quietly like a coward?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    I don't ignore them.
    Doing good is a good thing. But I don't attack them in order to make Christians look good, you attack Christians in a hope of making the godless look better.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    As of the troll who has regular work hours at his work terminal has a leg to stand on?

    Hahahahahha….

    Wee, you small little man.

  • WTE

    Yeah the real is because they are black <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

  • WTE

    Funny you are to blind to see the truth. <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

  • WTE

    I have 2 and they work just well <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

  • WTE

    Yes you did <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    If you have ever cleaned up after a group uses a church you would know there is more to a wedding then just the part the photo's capture.

    And you don't know it's just skin color, what you know it's being blamed on skin color.

    You're just looking for an excuse to rip on Christians.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    I'm able to see that you're a hate filled bigot attacking Christianity for the things at the core, the very essence of islam.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    No I didn't.

    And you attack Christians as if they don't have any charities. So, you don't ignore the good Christianity does but when I don't water down my links I am?

    You silly 'wee' little tiny man you.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Oh look, you brought the fonts back as a tool to water down the lame excuses for comments.

  • WTE

    Yes you did.

    And you attack athesists as if they don't have any charties. So, you don't ignore the good athesim does but when I don't water down my links I am

    You silly tiny little boy you.

  • WTE

    Oh, look, you brought your stupidity back as a tool to water down your lame escuses for comments

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    No, you just want an excuse to hate Christians.

    You're behaving as if this church has no charities.
    If you want to attack me in another place of this thread for acting as if atheists have no charities than why do you think it's fair to attack this church as if it has no charities?

    And just because one church didn't allow a wedding for what ever reason you can't call every Christian a racist.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    You're just racist because you don't like Christians. You attack Christians as if they don't have any charities.

    See how that sounds?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    No you don't.

    24 minutes ago @ Breitbart.tv – Soldier Found Guilty i… · 1 reply · +1 points
    The whole town needs locked in the church and the church set on fire. IMO

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Oh look, you brought back your hate and use that to form all your lame comments.

    Do you have any charities?

    Hahahahahahaha……

    You silly little 'wee' man.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Seems to me you could both be sitting side by side in any Trista Parsi building.

  • objectivefactsmatter

    "Seems to me he mocks you on daily basis and you're too dumb to see it "

    You are projecting. Anyone can see the troll is trying to mock everyone. It's generally what trolls try all the time.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Let's see…. who has the hate here?

    24 minutes ago @ Breitbart.tv – Soldier Found Guilty i… · 1 reply · +1 points
    The whole town needs locked in the church and the church set on fire. IMO

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    It says not to throw pearls to swine.

    You are a pig.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    I'm not racist and I don't notice skin color.

    There are a lot of reasons churches don't people marry in them, even if they attend there.

    Ask any divorced gay couple about using a Catholic church.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    At least he's not a hate filled bigot such as yourself.

    And the empty chair ran for office, so for him to be out golfing all the time is a little different.

    The hate blinds you.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Eatings mosta balls?

    You 'wee' little man you.
    So full of hate. And so running low in that little flask. So, can you see Trista Parsi's office from your work terminal?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    So, the hate drives you lying badly.

    Those are not my words.

    You really do focus on violence in a very muslim friendly sort of way, don't you?

  • WTE

    Where does it say you can you judge me and call me that. Rather be a pig than a self admitted POS. Roger 166p · 21 minutes ago I'm really Mr. Hanky <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    You are muslim friendly because of a lot of things, like looking for excuses to declare jihad and your bent towards violence.

    24 minutes ago @ Breitbart.tv – Soldier Found Guilty i… · 1 reply · +1 points
    "The whole town needs locked in the church and the church set on fire. IMO "

    You 'wee' little man you.

    And you can't have it both ways. You can't say I act as if there are no charities and it's wrong, but you can do the same thing and it means nothing.

    Two faced hypocrite. That's why I say it applies to you about throwing pearls to swine, you behave like a pig.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    I'm warned not to throw pearls to swine.

    You ignore the value of anything outside your hate, it applies to you.

    You 'wee' little man you.

  • WTE

    You're projecting again. I can sense your anger troll boy. How does it feel getting your a$$ handed to everyday by me? <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”RIGHT: auto” dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

  • WTE

    Of course you are <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    You think that way don't you?

    Another muslim friendly clue about you…. you have so many.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    No, you're the bigot with tendencies of advocating violence. So muslim friendly.

    Why do you think skin color was the reason for this church's actions? Can you even show they were the only black people attending there?

    You always chew on pearls like any swine.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    I don't advocate violence, those words have your 'ring' to them.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Oh wee, you small little man.

    That was when you wanted death for a suspect without trial, (how sharia of you). I asked if it was better for you than a burning church because of your call to jihad in this comment you made.

    24 minutes ago @ Breitbart.tv – Soldier Found Guilty i… · 1 reply · +1 points
    "The whole town needs locked in the church and the church set on fire. IMO "

    And you never said whether watching a vigilante style murder was better than the jihad against the church. Why not answer that now?

    What kind of violence appeals to you the most?

  • ★FALCON★

    who could find them with your version of stuxnet all tucked in nice and tight.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Do you want to download some free games and share them with all your iranian friends?
    http://www.stuxnet.com/games4farsi

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    It's not your place to tell me what limits I have.

    You 'wee' tiny little man you. You're so muslim friendly and so determined to use the hate to rule in your own little way you think you can do that.

    You can't. Poor 'wee'.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Wee, you small little man.
    I dont' think your call for jihad and love for vigilante justice made this country great. And when you pretend those are American values I can say that I don't stand for those things.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Wee, you muslim friendly kind of troll. I realize you're sitting at your work terminal with that friendly little flask to calm your nerves and your'e working to meet your daily quota.

    But I don't advocate violence. You do, that's a huge difference between us.

    That and I haven't given up my sanity as you have.

    Do you still pretend to be FBI?
    2 hours ago @ Big Government – Senate Hearing Recalls… · 1 reply · 0 points
    The FBI office. I investigate American Terrorists like yourself.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Wee, you small tiny little man.

    Get out from under the desk. That may be your favorite place in Trista Parsi's office, but I'm not interested.

  • WTE

    I just did and not really anything you can do about it <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    You have pretenses of relevance.

    And you tried to tell me what I'm allowed, that's not the same as actually having done it.

    What you actually did do was just show once more that you're a hate filled bigot that's a hypocrite.

  • WTE

    I never said those were American values and never said what I wanted done to that town of horrible violent people is what made this country great. Quote me. Face you hate this country. Roger 165p • 6 minutes ago No, you know I'm not for the things that made this country great. <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

  • WTE

    It's funny you don't get American sarcasm <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    I love this country, and don't agree that you values and hate are what made it great.

    And for a mere rumor you would have murdered an entire town of Christians brutally.
    24 minutes ago @ Breitbart.tv – Soldier Found Guilty i… · 1 reply · +1 points
    The whole town needs locked in the church and the church set on fire. IMO

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Says the guy who would have murdered an entire town brutally based on a mere rumor?

    That's a hate filled bigot.

    24 minutes ago @ Breitbart.tv – Soldier Found Guilty i… · 1 reply · +1 points
    The whole town needs locked in the church and the church set on fire. IMO

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    When you said this, were you pretending it was american sarcasm?

    "My chuckle is that Iran is going to slip one through our admittedly very porous southern border and then detonate this in a US city…"

  • WTE

    No, that is my opinion. Not my values. I value the freedoms our Founding Fathers gave us. Roger 165p • 6 minutes ago No, you know I'm not for the things that made this country great. <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

  • WTE

    I never said “I” would do it. <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

  • WTE

    I never said that and that is a lie. That is your writing style moron <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

  • WTE

    Once again your projecting. You do that a lot <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Still pretending anyone at all believes what you say here?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    So like a typical jihadist you want to recruit others to do your dirty work.

    Yeah, right. You 'wee' little tiny tiny man.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Projecting that you're a 'wee' little tiny man?

    It's part of your name.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Sure you did. You lie so often you simply don't have any credibility.

  • WTE

    You said it not me. <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

  • WTE

    Prove it. Screen shoot or a link will do liar <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    And you think values like this made our country great?
    http://i43.tinypic.com/qzojvd.jpg

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Says the man who wants to brutally murder an entire town of Christians painfully over a mere rumor? http://i43.tinypic.com/qzojvd.jpg

  • WTE

    The bible <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    But those abuses were not due to the teachings of Christ and Christians resisted to the point of risking death to make the reformation happen.

    Your face turns all read in an attempt to deny and ignore that.

    Wee, you're small little man.

  • objectivefactsmatter

    "Your face turns purple when you hear of the "atrocities" attributed to Allah, but you don't even flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all the babies of Egypt in "Exodus" and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in "Joshua" including women, children, and trees! "

    No, my face laughs out loud at your complete lack of (sense of) context.

    You are comparing historical events to examples. If I talk about a murder in history, that is one thing. If I use that murder as an example to replicate any time one is offended, do you truly struggle to see the distinction? It's not small at all. Therefore your brain must be.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    You don't even know what parts the modern Church follows Christ and you can't tie His teachings with any of the abuses you rip on.

    But I can tie mohammed's to the same abuses in islam.

    But you ignore that, is it because you're a hate filled bigot?

  • objectivefactsmatter

    "The bible"

    Proof of your simple mind and lack of context. Is it history, instruction…what book of the Bible? Who was instructed to do this? What are Bible readers to do with this text?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    It's all they have.

    Well, Wee has his hate too. But how far will take take anyone?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    No, I proved only that you don't understand Christianity.

    You don't know the difference between Judaism and the fulfillment of that called Christianity. You take one text from Judaism that even they don't follow and try to cram it artificially on Christianity.

    It's a flawed process and doesn't work.

    You want to try saying I proved your point again wee, you little man?

  • WTE

    No you proved my point………………..hypocrite <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    I proved that you're a hare filled bigot.

    That would make you the hypocrite.

  • WTE

    So you just proved my point. You ignorethe horrors of your religion has caused but you face turns purple when people are still doing it today. <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

  • WTE

    In your opinion I am, too bad your opinion does not count anything <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    And does your opinion matter when you say things like this?

    36 seconds ago @ Frontpage Magazine – Obama's Slap at Netanyahu · 0 replies · +1 points
    "With any luck they will find roger."

    You really are a hate filled bigot.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    And you prove our point.
    You take Jewish history and pretend that it has anything to do with what Christ taught the modern followers are to do.

    Christianity / Judaism. You don't show where one effects the other. So, as always you fail.

    You small little man.

    And in the meantime islam is the one doing the evil you protest about. And they're doing it today, something you don't seem to care about.

    Your muslim loyalties show, you wee little man.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Wee wee, you small little man.

    You pretend intelligence. You have been proven wrong on this several different times in several different times. Yet you keep repeating your failed points over and over. Even now on another site you revert back to your points over a year old as if they are more accurate simply because you 'can' say them over and over.

    Hitler didn't follow the teachings of Christ, so he wasn't an example of Christianity.

    By tossing out things even Jews don't follow doesn't say anything about how
    Christ taught His followers to behave.

    You keep going in circles, because that's all your handlers will allow you.

    You're truly a small little man.

  • objectivefactsmatter

    "Do you really need me to explain this to you?"

    You need to explain it for me to reveal your misuse.

    Now, who wrote this book and what is the narrative about? Is it instruction, history or both?

    "I thought you were a christian"

    We're discussing facts, not theology.

    "Maybe you're not with all this simple minded questions"

    The questions are simple-minded because of your needs.

    I do appreciate the cooperation though, even though your attitude still sucks.

  • WTE

    Of course my opinion matters <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Oh wee, are you admitting you can lead the muslim activists to my door?

    And that your muslim loyalties don't influence your comments here at the same time you lead muslim activists to your opponents?

  • WTE

    Your profiling is showing. I can many to your door that you have bullied throughout the years. You just assume they are all “muslim activists” which shows how narrow minded and how much of a hate filled bigot you are. <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”RIGHT: auto” dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Why would I not respond to a violent advocating muslim friendly (Iranian centric) kind of jihadi like yourself?

    Did you declare jihad today yet like you did in the past?

    24 minutes ago @ Breitbart.tv – Soldier Found Guilty i… · 1 reply · +1 points
    The whole town needs locked in the church and the church set on fire. IMO

  • WTE

    The only fact about christianity is it's a false bloodybelief system like islam <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    But you small little minded bigot, Christianity doesn't teach any bloody beliefs. You are so muslim friendly, so consistent with islam's violence that you just want to think everyone is equal to your advocacy for violence.

    It's not true, and you can't and haven't shown that anyone (such as hitler) followed a singe one of Christ's teachings.