Israel Haters Invade Wheaton College


Evangelist Billy Graham told Christians to base their vote on supporting Israel, yet anti-Israel activists held a “24 Hour Middle East Leadership Briefing” at a center named after him at Wheaton College on November 8-9. The irony should serve as a reminder that evangelical support for Israel cannot be taken for granted and must be fought for. Evangelicals against Christian Zionism will make headway if they are ignored.

The Billy Graham Evangelistic Association worked with Wheaton College to open the Billy Graham Center in 1980. Graham wanted it to be a “world hub of inspiration, research, preaching and training” for the church’s mission of evangelism. If Evangelicals for Middle East Understanding (EMEU) has its way, this hub will also be a platform to undermine Christian support for Israel. The organization’s anti-Israel advocacy is so strong that one of its founders and current advisory board member, Reverend Donald Wagner, is a featured speaker at American Muslims for Palestine’s (AMP) annual conference later this month. The AMP’s list of speakers includes at least 13 Islamists, most of whom are tied to the Muslim Brotherhood and have defended Hamas and acts of terrorism.

An email to the Billy Graham Center about the EMEU event was replied to by Lon Ellison, executive director of Billy Graham Center Ministries. Ellison explained that “We are not a politically associated organization” and that, though the event was held in the building, it is not sponsored by Billy Graham Center Programs/Ministries.  Indeed, EMEU’s website says it sponsored the event with Wheaton College’s Biblical and Theological Studies Department and Dr. Gary Burge, a professor at the college, was one of the speakers.

“While my understanding of EMEU is not exhaustive, the experience with them I have had suggests that their primary concern is the welfare of the Palestinian people. I have not sensed they are however, anti-Israel,” Ellison said.

A spokesperson for Billy Graham declined to comment.

EMEU openly fights against Christian Zionism. Its website, for example, promotes a book by Norman Finkelstein titled, “The Holocaust Industry: Reflections on the Exploitation of Jewish Suffering.” In 2010, he gave a speech at the University of New York where he reportedly urged Palestinians to not “concede” to Israel and to keep up “nonviolent resistance.” An article by Wagner that appears on the Institute for the Study of Christian Zionism website argues that Christian Zionism is motivated by a “prediction of a bloody Battle of Armageddon in the Middle East.” The website lists EMEU as one of its “friends.”

“Politically, as we recognize that the theology shaped by this distorted view of scripture too easily morphs into a militaristic, anti-Palestinian, pro-expansionist ideology with negative consequences of all parties in the current conflict,” the Institute says.

Dr. Gary Burge, the aforementioned Wheaton College professor and speaker at the event, is a staunch opponent of Christian Zionism, arguing that it is motivated by a desire to trigger Armageddon. He writes, “This is the crown jewel in Christian Zionism’s worldview. This is why Rev. [John] Hagee is willing to risk throwing the Middle East into nuclear war. The birth of Israel has now set the stage for the imminent second coming of Jesus Christ.”

His position on the legitimacy of the state of Israel is clear by the title of his book, “Whose Land? Whose Promise? What Christians Are Not Being Told About Israel and the Palestinians.” The Committee for Accuracy in Middle East Reporting in America describes it as a “combustible mixture of misinformation and theologically justified hostility towards modern Israel.”

Another speaker was Dr. Mark Braverman, whose website links to the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions Movement and other anti-Israel websites. The forward to his 2010 book, “Fatal Embrace,” has a forward written by Walter Brueggemann. In it, he says that “the claim of exceptionalism…gives warrant for brutalizing policies carried out by the Israeli government that are destructive, self-destructive and finally irresponsible.” He says this exceptionalism also drives “religious-ideological support for American expansionist imperialism.”

EMEU is part of a broader Christian movement against Israel that Islamists appreciate. For example, on October 4, 15 Christian leaders wrote a letter to Congress suggesting that military aid to Israel be reconsidered because of its alleged violations of international law. American Muslims for Palestine thanked them for it. Muslim Brotherhood affiliates in the U.S. also have a Christian coalition they can rely upon to defend them.

The issue here is greater than the EMEU’s use of the Billy Graham Center building. There is a real struggle happening in the Christian community that can weaken one of Israel’s most stalwart bases of support.

This article was sponsored by the Institute on Religion and Democracy.

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  • Mary Sue

    The works of the likes of Finkelstein allows morons to cry, "B-b-but, Finkelstein's Jewish and HE'S against Zionism, therefore it is not anti-semitic!"

    I guess they never heard of internalized anti-semitism…

  • Hang Normie

    Norman Finkelstein is a deranged Neo-Nazi. Anyone "hosting" him is a sewer anti-Semite.

    Time to understand that Jewish anti-Semites are just that – anti-Semites.

    • cjk

      The more accurate spelling is 'Fecalstein'.

      • SCREW SOCIALISM

        norman is an Uncle Tom.

        And NOBODY respects an Uncle Tom.

  • Scotsirish

    …………..am I living in Germany, 1933?

    I have heard it all now. God help us all.

  • The Truth

    “Evangelist Billy Graham told Christians to base their vote on supporting Israel, and yet…”

    Wow. Billy Graham told you how to vote and yet you defied him! Here Mr. Mauro is indistinguishable from an Islamic cleric in his disdain for the separation of Church and State and his incredulity that the clerics who shelled out good money for a Christian madrassah are churning out a few infidels who question Christian Zionism. What IS the world coming to?

    • Stern

      So this time, instead of a sweet little parable about "burglars" you unleash the holy irony. What an idiot.

    • cjk

      A Madrassah is an establishment where children and young people are taught to memorize and recite Satanic writings in a foreign language that they don't even understand. There is no comparable type of idiocy to be found in Christianity. There are, however, idiocies in established Christian organizations and one of them is the subject of the above article.

      • http://www.facebook.com/fred.mrozek Fred Mrozek

        "There is no comparable type of idiocy to be found in Christianity." Zionism is pure racism and Christian Zionism is heresy and treason. Zionists are the most stealthily antichristian people in the mideast, they credibly boast of controlling the USA, they have committed acts of false-flag terrorism against the USA, they stole their initial nuclear materials and technology from the US in the 1960's, they are non-signatories of the NNPT, they are credibly accused by Sibel Edmonds of nuclear arms proliferation and after spying on the USA they sell what they learn to our enemies. There is hardly a better or more widespread and dangerous example of heresy and treason than Christian Zionism.

        • cjk

          You're an example of idiocy outside of established Christianity.

        • Stern

          This Jew=hating rant does not deserve a considered response. Pigs like you should be left to rot in your own swill.

        • Mary Sue

          Who cares if they won't sign that worthless non proliferation pact? Don't worry about the people that won't sign it. Worry about the people that sign it AND THEN VIOLATE IT.

          Of course they want more nukes, they need to be able to bomb those antisemitic Islamists into the Sand Age. They're outnumbered!

          If they were in control of everything as you claim, why is there even a non-proliferation treaty? It shouldn't exist!

          Who is Sibel Edmonds and why should I listen to that person? Are they as credible as Ernst Zundel? :P

        • SCREW SOCIALISM

          Fred Mrodrek, Must I remind YOU of your heroes who eventually SURRENDERED, UNCONDITIONALLY, to the US, UK and SU in May 1945?

          Failure and Defeat is in your genes.

          Say Hi to your pal timothy mcveigh when you join him in Hell.

    • Guest

      The hypocrisy of your title 'the truth' is showing. Quote the basis of where 'separation of church and state' is found in ANY founding documents. You can't because it doesn't exist except in a personal letter from Tom Jefferson to the Danbury Baptist Church and it is to allay their fears of his legitimization of his own denomination over any other CHRISTIAN DENOMINATIONS! Get you history straight before making an a$$ of yourself in front of God and the whole world!

      • The Truth

        I would love to know how many other commentators here reject the separation of Church and State as you do. That’s really a difference between the cave people who don’t separate them and the moderns who do. Frontpage is rather fond of pointing out that if you mix your Abrahamic faith in with the State it makes you, in the words of Pamela Geller, a savage.

        • SCREW SOCIALISM

          The US has been doing quite well until socialists got too much influence.

          That will change, soon.

        • cjk

          Besides George Washington, John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, Abraham Lincoln, and other schmoes in your opinion, I don't know.
          Equating Abraham with Moe in any way positive is blasphemous.
          Abraham detests Allah and his perverted, pedophile profit Moe.

          • The Truth

            Fortunately there is no penalty for blasphemy or other violations of Christian Fundamentalist Sharia.

          • cjk

            Actually there is, but the penalty will come due at a future point by a completely just judge.
            Quite a bit of difference on how Mohammedan blasphemy is handled by raving, raging, Satanically inspired, maniacs who will also be eventually judged by the same Holy, just, judge, Jehovah.
            In fact Allah himself will be thrown into a Lake of Fire per Jehovah's Holy judgement.

          • The Truth

            So tell me, what will happen to Israeli National Union MP Michael Ben Ari who tore a Bible in half last July?

          • Mary Sue

            nothing.

          • Mary Sue

            put down the crack pipe and step away from it.

          • Western Canadian

            Christian sharia? No such thing, just as there is no such thing a French English common law… Could this idiot be Schuckmotion under yet another name? The ignorance, dishonesty and use of the pathetic smear ‘Christian’ sharia suggest as much.

          • Mary Sue

            not to mention, French and English common law are mutually exclusive. English Common Law has the principle of Innocent until proven Guilty. French Common law is completely the reverse.

        • Western Canadian

          To the fool who does not understand the meaning of the word “truth”, and abuses it most viciously, Islam is NOT an ‘Abrahamic faith’, it is a vile fraud that should be described as being ANTI-Abrahamic. Glad I could clear that up for you. And your understanding of the ‘seperation of church and state’ is just as pathetic.

    • Ghostwriter

      It's that people like you hate Jews and want them dead. That's what,The Truth. And that's something you can't handle. The truth.

      • The Truth

        You know what happened when the boy cried wolf.

        • SCREW SOCIALISM

          The BS, Eventually the boy was eaten by the wolf.

        • Western Canadian

          Hey Schuckmotion, isn’t crying wolf what you do? The wolf being primarily jews, and no wolfs withing a parsec or two of your islamic bliss??

  • Nanajan

    Scotsirish, you took the words right out of my mouth. I’ll just say Amen.

  • Omar

    Walter Brueggemann is a lunatic. There is no American "imperialism", but there is Russian imperialism, Chinese imperialism, Iranian imperialism, "Palestinian" (a.k.a. invented people) imperialism, Communist imperialism and Islamist imperialism. Obviously, Bruggemann is a Stalinist/Maoist who supports Islamist totalitarianism.

    • http://www.facebook.com/fred.mrozek Fred Mrozek

      No American Imperialism? You've got to be kidding me. I suppose you don't recognize any American mass-murder in the mid-east either?

      Previous, noteworthy, history-shaping, deadly and expensive lies: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pR4cgeJJPqg&fe

      Like Pappy (Bush), like son: The NIE versus Bush lies on Iraq http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7abu9a0xtNI

      Mitt Romney shows he is made from the same stuff as the lying Bush Presidents:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nqEo-fLL-o&li

      The Fire This Time: U.S. Crimes in the Gulf http://www.amazon.com/Fire-This-Time-U-S-Crimes/d

      9/11 Cliffs Notes http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_IZaUuK_d0&fe

      What should a Christian think about such lies? Probably something like this: http://www.letgodbetrue.com/proverbs/12_17.htm

      Who controlled US Foreign Policy? Bush or Ehud Olmert? Surprise! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkdQbhB7Ckk&NR

      Israel's power over our government, putting Israel's interest ahead of ours: (Philip Geraldi and ay McGovern- former CIA Officers) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-SszJkjy60&NR

      AIPAC, 300 PACs, how it works, $1.3 Trillion dollars since 1975! http://www.realzionistnews.com/?p=648

      Malaysian Prime Minister describes what is happening http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsJgYd5uCiY&fe

      BBC Documentary: The War Party: (Hijackers of US Gov. or merely Bush admin. fellow travelers ?)
      Part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Cdhtxg8yE4
      Part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBva0kjlEzs&fe
      Part 3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AgyYtn7aOc&fe
      Part 4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGfTNwqHPdM&fe
      Part 5 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeOUgExFySg&fe

      813neocons3.jpg

      Early example of false-flag terrorism by Israel, against the US and Britain http://www.mideastweb.org/lavon.htm http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/TPV3/Voices.php/20http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NsTNQceeJY

      • Stern

        Gee, the Jew-=hater has found a whole bunch of links to support his maniacal diatribes. Quelle surprise!

      • Drakken

        It's called warfare you effing moron, if you are so concerned for your muslim friends please by all means go to Syria and wag your finger at those mean assad supporters, I'll get out the popcorn and watch as Darwin does his thing. If you side with the fakestinian savages, you are our enemy period.

      • Mary Sue

        *yawn* Sure drag up things from the 1950s that have no relevance today. 9/11 Truther BS? OH GTFO.

      • Omar

        Mrozek, you are repeating leftist lies against America, Britain, Israel and the rest of the free world. America was in the Middle East because we are fighting a war against terrorism. I suppose you supported Saddam's attempted takeover of Kuwait. I suppose you also support the Taliban in Afghanistan. Why don't you blame Russia for supporting the Assad family dictatorship in Syria? Why don't you blame Hamas for its genocidal intentions? Mrozek, do us a favor and keep your ignorance to yourself.

      • SCREW SOCIALISM

        Fred Mrozdrek, I see Muslims killing Muslims in the Middle East. 30,000+ in Syria, 1,000,000 in the 8 year war between Iraq/Iran.

        Are you that pig ignorant?

        Were you home schooled in a mental hospital?

    • Ghostwriter

      And so is Fred Mrozek,who is a charter member of the "Blame America First" club. It's idiots like him that make me angry.

      • SCREW SOCIALISM

        Mrodrek is a sad socialist.

    • George_Babbitt

      It's called Manifest Destiny, it's a required subject of study in every American History class.
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manifest_destiny

      • Omar

        Manifest Destiny does not count as "imperialism". Manifest Destiny simply meant to go West. If you really want to know what real imperialism is, check out the Assad Family dictatorship in Syria, which is being supported by Moscow. Syria is a Russian/Iranian puppet state.

        • George_Babbitt

          The modern equivalent is colonialism, and the showering of military bases the U.S. has installed. I don't have a problem with this, but to reduce Manifest Destiny to 'go west young man' and ignore that American Imperialism is alive and active, though it takes a less conventional approach than history has demonstrated, doesn't do history justice.

          • Mary Sue

            except that Colonialism actually goes out and you know, settles places like COLONIES. There has been no American Settlement of Non-American Territories in ages.

          • Omar

            Russia has military bases in other places too. Moscow has a base in Syria. That base is approved by the Russian-backed Assad regime. There is no American "imperialism", but there is Russian imperialism, Chinese imperialism, Cuban imperialism, Venezuelan imperialism, Iranian imperialism, "Palestinian" (invented people) imperialism, Communist imperialism and Islamist imperialism. Mr. Babbitt, you hate America because you repeat Stalinist/Maoist propaganda about America, the West and democracy. Bottom line: America, Britain, Israel and the rest of the free world stand for democracy, freedom, peace and stability, while the leftists/Islamists stand for imperialism, instability, aggression, oppression and totalitarianism.

          • George_Babbitt

            Britain still has a Unitary parliamentary constitutional monarchy with a lady at it's head that is referred to as the Supreme Governor of the Church of England(British Pope). The people in that country are NOT allowed to own any guns. They have cameras on every corner, and you will thrown in jail for saying mean things. The 'State of Israel' is a parliamentary republic with a unicameral legislature, mandatory military service to achieve full citizenship status, NO trial by jury, and their leaders call elections when ever they want. Please explain to me how those are prime examples of of democratic countries, WITHOUT comparing them to some stupid Islam country that EVERYBODY already knows doesn't have CLUE about democracy???

            Christ Jesus first.
            My family second.
            My church third.
            My state fourth.
            America fifth, but before EVERY other country/nation.

          • Omar

            Both Britain and Israel are representative democracies, Babbitt. Both countries have governments that are just like the United States. There is no "military service" necessary for Israeli citizenship. Israel is not like ancient Sparta at all. Israel is a representative democracy, while ancient Sparta was a military oligarchy. There are trials by jury in Israel. Britain has a constitutional monarchy. The monarchy is only a figurehead in the British government. Along with the constitutional monarch,the UK is a representative democracy. If you really want to see really oppressive "Republics" that abuse power, look at Cuba, which currently has the only dictatorship in the Western Hemisphere. In Cuba, the daily food rations for a citizen is smaller than the rations that the King of Spain mandated that Cuban slaves had on a daily basis in 1842 at a time when Cuba was a Spanish colony. All of the countries that support Islamism are repressive and totalitarian. Why don't you blame Russia for supporting the dictatorship in Syria? Did you know that Putin rigged the presidential election in Russia? Putin's United Russia Party is the modern-day Communist Party of the Soviet Union. Instead of criticizing the democratic West, criticize true repressive regimes, which are either from the far-left or radical Islamist.

          • George_Babbitt

            You are whitewashing what the nature of those countries are. You do not have a good understanding of what you are talking about. I said military service was necessary for FULL citizenship. The State of Israel has a parliament. THERE ARE NOT TRIALS BY JURY IN THE STATE OF ISRAEL.(you had better look that one up!) The monarchy in Britain is just a figurehead? Then explain the Upper House of Parliament which is comprised entirely of titled persons whose titles pass on as an inheritance. The State of Israel doesn't even have two houses of it's parliament, hence the term 'unicameral'. The U.S. has a bicameral legislature comprised entirely of voter-elected representatives. The State of Israel uses the Party-list proportional representation system, where people vote for the party they want, and the party appoints people before or after the fact.

            I said "WITHOUT comparing them to some stupid Islam country that EVERYBODY already knows doesn't have CLUE about democracy??? " Is suppose I should have included in that 'all countries that NO ONE has difficulty telling that they don't have a clue about democracy, but it didn't matter because you still went off and mentioned Islamist countries as if anybody is going to think they have good examples of democratic states.

            I don't want "to see really oppressive "Republics" that abuse power" and I don't care about "countries that support Islamism" that are "repressive and totalitarian". Why does "blame Russia" for Syria come up, that falls under the 'no clue about democracy' default status. Why don't I criticize 'true repressive regimes" instead of the "democratic West"? First, the State of Israel is not part of the democratic West, it is an Afro-Asiatic Socialist hub with Jewish Nationalist policies who have an apartheid system enacted to the detriment of the non-Jewish population inside and outside it's borders. Why does this matter to me? Because they have one of the most non-proportionately powerful, representative speaking, political lobby that is entirely foreign to the U.S. in nature, advocating in the U.S. entirely for a foreign country. This non-proportional powerful lobby has also confused a Biblical illiterate populace, that is unaware of the historic position of their own churches regarding Jews, Israel, the sufficiency and supremacy of Christ for all, the Temple sacrifices which are obsolete, the abolishing of the Levitical priesthood, the ascension of Christ to the position of High Priest for all eternity, as the Aaronic priesthood is disappeared never to return. All these things are being ignored by Jews that are today working to build a third Temple where the Dome of the Rock now stands. They plan to start up Temple sacrifices, reinstate the Levitical priesthood, dream up an Aaronic High Priest from thin air, find the Ark of the Covenant(the covenant which is broken), secure a pure Red Heifer(which they don't have the ashes from the last one to make the new one pure), craft new priestly vestments(without the old ones which had special irreplaceable stones on them), and many other things which can not, will not, and in the light of what Christ has done, should not be done. They have the right to practice the religion they want, but it is when they lobby another country for support in doing these things that will only benefit themselves, that is what I take issue with.

          • Omar

            There is no apartheid in Israel, but there is apartheid in Sudan and other Islamist states. Sudan has a racist, sexist Islamist dictatorship that behaves worse than South Africa's former apartheid regime. Arabs living in Israel have more rights and liberties as Israeli citizens than people living in other countries in the Middle East. It is true that Israel's parliament has one chamber, but it still is a representative democracy. While it is also true that Britain's House of Lords are not elected, the House of Commons is still elected. Before the 17th Amendment was passed in the U.S., Senators were appointed by the state legislatures. Quit supporting leftist/Islamist propaganda.

          • George_Babbitt

            Don't justify bad deeds by comparing yourself to others

            There's a psychological trap which pretty much everyone is in danger of falling into at some time or another. It's a mind-trick we use on ourselves to justify deeds we're not proud of. We simply compare ourselves to others who've done something worse.

            I've done this many times myself to justify in my mind acts that I know were wrong, and I'm sure if you're honest, you can think of examples too.

            It works like this: You admit to yourself and others that you've committed an error, but belittle it by comparing it to greater errors committed by others. For example, an alcoholic who drinks a bottle of whisky every day says to himself: "Well, at least I don't drink two bottles a day like Henry next door."

            The wonderful thing about this trick is that it can be used to justify virtually any act, no matter how immoral. No matter what you've done, you never have to look far to find someone who's done something worse.

            Have you become lazy lately? Well, at least you're not as bad as that slothful uncle of yours.

            Are you violent? It's nothing compared to those families living down on the housing estate.

            Do you take drugs? At least you're not one of those junkies sleeping in bus shelters.

            Using this method, you never have to face up to doing anything wrong. It's extremely comforting. The only problem is, you still have to eventually face up to the consequences of your actions.

            Lazy people still end up with fewer rewards, regardless of their uncles. Violent people still get arrested, no matter how nasty those on the housing estate are. Drug users still wreck their health, even if someone else wrecks theirs worse.

            This mental trick is the equivalent of sweeping dust under the carpet. The dust is still there, even if it's hidden from view.

            Some of the most dishonest users of this trick are politicians. They can justify almost any evil act simply by comparing their choices to those of their peers in other nations. They use it to legitimize war, torture and all sorts of other wrongs. All they have to say is "Well, what I'm planning is nothing compared to what politician X in country Y gets up to".

            Morality and good deeds aren't measured by comparing yourself to others. It's something that comes from within. Most people know when they're committing bad deeds, and are perfectly aware of the consequences. Trying to hide behind someone else's badness is often as immoral as the original act itself.

          • Omar

            You don't even make sense half the time. What does this have anything to do with social skills? I am simply saying that America, Britain and Israel have the best democratic systems in the world, and that is a fact. I don't see you condemn repressive regimes like China, Cuba and Iran.

          • Titus 3:5

            563 words 3384 characters

            We are impressed that you can somehow post 500% more than than we.

          • George_Babbitt

            Congratulations, you know how to copy/paste and use a word processor. Do you know how to read?

    • Ghostwriter

      I guess you and old Fred Mrozek don't read American history all that much,do you Mr. Babbitt. And when you do,it's the Oliver Stone variety instead of ANY real history or am I getting to close to the truth?

  • Stern

    " The AMP’s list of speakers includes at least 13 Islamists, most of whom are tied to the Muslim Brotherhood and have defended Hamas and acts of terrorism."

    The sheer irony of this astounds. Are these "Christians" completely blind to what is happening to their co-religionists in every Muslim country where they still live? Egypt? Nigeria? "Palestine"?

    It boggles the mind that their unending hatred of Jews trumps even concern for fellow Christians.

    • Drakken

      They belong to the Quisling branch of social justice socialism being spoon fed to the brainless masses. They are enemies of us all.

  • John C. Davidson

    I went to a church to listen to a psychologist and hear the congregation praise New York State Governor for his part in leglizing Gay marriage in his state.

    This is not a church, buy a Liberally protected propaganda group.

    The laws governing this nation have all been usurpted.

    • George_Babbitt

      The 'State of Israel' has same-sex marriage as legal since 1963, nationally recognized same-sex marriages performed in other countries, same-sex adoption, gays open in the military, bans anti-gay discrimination, and has laws protecting gender identity/expression. All of these things the 'State of Israel' has had for a long time now. Maybe the Israel-firsters have brought it to America. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_by_count….

      • Mary Sue

        so you support the Palestinians because they'll impose Sharia and have all the homosexuals killed or something?

        • George_Babbitt

          Or something lady. The leaps, bounds and assumptions that are taken and made, I imagine for the sole reason of discrediting a persons answer to your question while you ask it, is limitless aren't they?

  • Jean

    The Chrisian Church is just as much of a state of decay as the rest of the world. Get used to it. I have. Sort of. My first thought — and I do mean FIRST thought — when my mind admitted the outcome of the election, was "Now Israel stands alone." Prophecy unfolds. I've decided politics is not the place for me to make my feeble presence felt, I'll be doing my best to raise a ruckus in my church.

  • PaulRevereNow

    The western suburbs of Chicago seem to be a gathering place for anti-semites of all types. I once attended a school in that area, where I had a prof who was a not-so-subtle anti-semite, who was associated with Wheaton College, and who lived nearby. DePaul University is a known hot-bed of Jew-bashing; and Obama, and his friend Bill Ayres are from Oak Park; while in 1978, Skokie was the scene of Nazi rallies and a march or two. What is it about Chicago? Something in the water, maybe?

    • Mary Sue

      it has to be.

    • Questions

      I could point out the same tendencies in any number of cities. It's not unique to Chicago. George Lincoln Rockwell's American Nazi Party for years, even after his 1967 assassination, was headquartered in Arlington, Va., near Washington, D.C.

      • Mary Sue

        I'd argue there was something in the water in several screwed-up liberal cities. Detroit, Chicago, New York, LA, Boulder…

  • Marsh

    Being held at the Todd Beamer Center, named after a 9-11 hero.

  • evy

    John Hagee re Israel is partially incorrect according to Scripture; his critic Mr. Burge's view is completely incompatible with Scripture. Unfortunate, that those who 'have a form of godliness, denying the power thereof,' are called Christians at all, for it broadbrushes the whole of Christianity to those who do not know Scripture. Genuine Bible believers born again (the only kind that qualify for the definition according to the Scriptures) love Israel. Not long now to the day when we will meet secretly to read and pray together, as we are hardly welcome in our own churches. If Christians don't have friends in this world, Jews (a word precious to Christians), don't be so offended when Wheaton (long gone) does what the world does. We are all forsaken if we do not lean on the God of Israel, the Creator, to whom we will all give account. Earthquakes like woman's travail, evil men & seducers waxing worse, unnatural affections, perversion, nation against nation, all increasing in frequency and intensity, give your head a shake…, read the book. "Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?" Luke 18:8, KJ1611 Authorized.

    • Jean

      We will be meeting in secret. What symbol shall we scratch in the dirt now that the fish means nothing? How 'bout a flame?

  • Ar'nun

    It started maybe 40-50 years ago with schools teaching our children about the evils of war, the evils of government, the evils of big business, and the evils of the USA. Once this first generation indoctrinated Group Thinkers graduated, they moved on to sexual education. Then to Gay education all while eliminating religion from all schools. Also during all this, the Federal Government was sliding in and slowly taking over the schools. Now, anyone under 70 has received the re-education, Liberal style. And we saw this in the election a week ago. Now, they are free to slip in things that are anti-Semitic into the curriculum, This will lead soon to an American Krystalnache. Socialism will lead to total domination. And all Democrat voters will beg for forgiveness.

    • Questions

      Your chain of reasoning is truly breathtaking — breathtakingly ridiculous. As for the evils of big government, isn't that the sort of thing most people on the Right specializes in these days?

    • Hollywood Jeff

      Ar'nun, you apparently believe that students should be taught the goodness of war so they can be prepared to fight and die in one. Just curious, but have you ever fought in one? Still curious, have you ever heard of Isaiah who wrote "They shall beat their swords into ploughshares?" Was he some kind of commie?

      • SCREW SOCIALISM

        Hollyweird Jeff, Don't you think it it's odd that claimed "progressives" are so deferential to the least "progressive" Islamists.

      • cjk

        You either don't know squat about Isaiah or are a disingenuous liar and show it by quoting him out of context. They will only do this when the Messiah rules the world with a rod of iron shattering any enemies like clay pots.
        War is not good, but unfortunately necessary in this world dominated by fallen man
        Indeed you display exactly the results that Ar'nun speaks of !

        • Mary Sue

          eh, he's just reading the Bible like a fundy (ie reading it out of context).

      • Mary Sue

        That's a prophecy, not a lesson.

        Know of a guy named Joel? He said the exact opposite!

        Beat your plowshares into swords and your pruning hooks into spears. Let the weakling say, "I am strong!" – Joel 3:10

        Join us again for another example of Reading The Bible Like a Fundy!

  • Drakken

    Call these leftist enemies for what they are. They should be confronted at every turn and named and shamed by calling them out on their blatent treason. Hang signs on their doors with the word traitor on it. The time for niceties and pleasantries are over.

    • The Truth

      You seem to be trying to get people arrested. Is that your job?

      • Drakken

        You seem to go with the program that Comrade Obummer is advokating so please by all means keep sticking your head in the sand hoping that it will all go away. Dumbazz!

    • SCREW SOCIALISM

      Boycott any movie that contains "artists" whose views you find offensive.

      Make people like sean penn, susan sarandon, michael moooore, danny glover, BOX OFFICE POISON.

      • George_Babbitt

        As if there was anything that came out of Hollywood that isn't approved by the Hollywood Jew. All eight major film studios are run by men who are Jewish.

        • Mary Sue

          so what?

          • George_Babbitt

            Read ALL the comments. Then you wont have to ask questions like this.

  • Loyal Achates

    The 'University of New York'? What the heck is that?

    So you're mad about people using religious reasoning to bash Israel instead of support it? Well, as the Jewish parable goes, 'Those who profit from nonsense must be prepared to suffer from nonsense'.

    • Mary Sue

      no, we're mad about people being antisemitic tards. The reason is incidental. The results are what concern us.

  • George Kacena

    I attended the EMEU conference held at Wheaton College this past weekend. Let me say that I didn't feel that Israel was being bashed. What I did hear was how Christians throughout the Middle East are suffering for their faith in Jesus Christ (Jordan, Syria, Iraq, Lebanon, Egypt,Israel,and Palestine). I did hear that Christians in the Middle East are not only being harassed by Muslims and Israelis, but how in the Muslim nations of the Middle East Christians are being tortured and killed for their faith in Jesus. I find it quite interesting that among some American Christians there seems to be a greater commitment to a particular theology than to our brothers and sister in Christ.

    • Stern

      How are Christians being harassed by Israel? Israel is the one country in the region where they are NOT threatened.

      • George Kacena
        • http://nycright.blogspot.com Ron Lewenberg

          Some anti-Zionist Haredim don’t like Christians? This says zero about Israel and everything about antisemites who pretend to be antiZionist. These same gentile antisemites love to hide behind the Ultra-Orthodox Jews. You can’t have it both ways. Show a modicum of intellectual honesty.

        • SCREW SOCIALISM

          Were those Christians trying to proselytize to Orthodox Jews?

          They should try proselytizing to Muslims. Let's see what happens.

        • cjk

          The video is no surprise because the first persecutors of the original Jewish Church were Jews also. So what? Does Paul then pronounce that we abandon Israel? NO.
          This amounts to setting up a straw-man on your part. Seeing as all men are evil to some degree and knowing that there is not one GOOD man among us, we are forced to deal in degrees as regards any human behavior.
          Wringing one's hands over this when faced with the true BLOODY persecution of Christians and Jews in the Mohammedan world fulfills Christ's statement concerning the swallowing of a camel while gagging on a gnat to the letter, congratulations.

          • George Kacena

            Your are right, Christians are being persecuted in worse ways in Islamic countries in the Middle East. This was brought clearly at the EMEU conference. My point is that Christians are being persecuted in all countries in the Middle East. Certainly the persecution in Israel may be lesser than it is in other Middle East Countries, but it is still persecution, for the Cross is still a stumbling block to the Jews and folly to non-Jews. We should not abandon Israel, nor should we abandon fellow Christians in the Middle East, for the sake of Israel. Anyone who is not a Christian is not my brother or sister, and everyone who claims Jesus as Lord and Savior is (Jew, Arab, or others). I find it interesting that no where in the NT is there a call from the Apostles to support the nation of Israel, but there is a call to share with them the Good News that Jesus of Nazareth is Messiah: crucified, raised and ascended.

          • cjk

            Actually to even mention the so called persecution of Christians in Israel with the very real persecution in the Mohammedan world in the same breath is a form of deception. It's like equating a haircut to a decapitation in every sense.
            You sound like the kind of guys who equated the USA to the Soviet Union.
            In short you sound like a moral relativist of the worst kind. Maybe I'm wrong?
            BTY: It's crucified, descended, and then ascended.

  • Davy Crockit

    Let’s get one thing straight. “Christian Zionists” or whatever they call us are not flaked out ignoramuses hoping for or trying to hasten Armageddon. We’re guilty of much worse. We’re literalists (gasp). G-d said “the Land” eretz Israel, belonged to the Jews in perpetuity and that the Jews had a unique and continuing role in history. (Yeh, we believe in G-d too which makes us even more dangerous.) When I was growing up in the 50’s the memory of WWII was still fresh in the minds of the adults. Everyone, especially Evangelicals were appalled at what had happened in Europe and sympathy for the new Jewish state was overwhelming. The formation of Israel was seen as divine intervention. We also recognized that we owed a debt to the Jewish people for any number of things.
    Fast forward five or six decades, with oil as a weapon of diplomacy, attacks on American embassies, 9/11, Islamo Nukes, the formation of aggressive Muslim communities in Western Europe and the United States (been to Minneapolis or Dearborn lately??). Cowards masquerading as trendy socially conscious types came out of the woodwork and showed up at our institutions. Raw military power may not always be the answer. But stabbing Israel or the Jews in the back is the road to hell. (yeah some of us still believe in hell too. Wonder if Joe Stalin, Pol Pot and Herr Adolph do as well now too.)
    I went to Wheaton College for 3 and ½ years. It was the best educational experience of my life, but any more of this and
    Next time I get an appeal for money I’ll probably put it next to the Sears Catalogue in my cabin outhouse.

    • Stern

      Thank you for a great post.

      • Davy Crockit

        (you're very welcome)

        Hope I offended only those in my line of fire.

    • http://twitter.com/surfcitysocal2 @surfcitysocal2

      Thanks. You said it well. People don't understand that evangelicals are the greatest defenders of Israel, because we do, as you said, take the Bible literally (gasp!), and because the savior was descended from the house of Judah–not because we want to "trigger Armageddon". What silliness–but an apparent liberal mantra and denigration of Christians we can probably expect to hear more of in the future. We love Israel because they are God's people, whether they are in spiritual rebellion or not. What I find puzzling and sad is that in this last election American Jews, by 70%, chose to support a man who has waged a war against the Jews (David Horowitz http://frontpagemag.com/2010/david-horowitz-and-j… ), while 57% of Israeli Jews supported his opponent.

      • SCREW SOCIALISM

        There are A LOT of DUMB jews.

        Also knon as JINO – Jews In Name Only or Jewish Uncle Toms.

      • George_Babbitt

        70%support plus 57% oppose = 127% <—How were your math grades in school?

        • cjk

          Reread it and then tell us what your reading comprehension grade was you doof.

          • George_Babbitt

            You mean that the 'Israeli Jews' you mention that supported Rmoney by 57% were not the standard dual-citizenship(traitors)Jews and that they were just 'Israeli', and have no American citizenship? If that's the case, why would American citizens care what foreigners want and don't want regarding America?

          • Mary Sue

            Because they know a bad thing for Israel when they see one? One that could stand in the way of them properly defending themselves.

          • George_Babbitt

            The question was why American citizens would care what a foreigner wants or doesn;t want regarding America. But you're stuck on that State-of-Israel-first mindset, and don't really care about America unless it sacrifices every last ounce of it's reserve for the 'State of Israel'?

  • Jim

    If a particular Church type organization has been co opted by evil the walk away and re convene or purge them. The anti Zionists are also anti fundamentalist Christian

    • SCREW SOCIALISM

      Those FAKE "Christians" Love the Sinner AND Love the Sin.

      • George_Babbitt

        And Zionists love the sin-lovers, i.e. Jews. If they didn't love sin, they would love Christ Jesus. But they don't love Christ Jesus do they? No they hate Christ Jesus, and therefore, hate God. All who hate God, love sin.

  • George_Babbitt

    The State of Israel should be left to its own devices and defense in its acts of domestic terrorism and apartheid. I will not support it merely for the eschatological, politically motivated and Judaicly confused reasons that some of my brethren do on the world stage at the behest of AIPAC and the Tim Lahaye/John Hagee group.

    A Jew is not a self-hater because he has read the Talmud and sees that his own Rabbis from antiquity agree that there should not be a State/Nation/Kingdom of Israel till the Messiah returns, which Jews do not believe(wrongly), has happened. The Talmud, from the start of the Jewish Diaspora has accepted their exile, as a condemnation of a wicked people that must wait for His time, not the time of the British/French Palestinian Mandate which scooped up land at the fall of the Ottoman empire.

    These people that attempt to force God to bring about the Second Coming by putting into action those things that they think need to happen for the Second Coming are arrogantly and defiantly attempting to put themselves on the Throne in His stead.

    • Mary Sue

      all irrelevant. The Jews are our allies against the Terrorists. Not the other way around.

      • George_Babbitt

        The terrorists are irrelevant.
        Matthew 10:28 "Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell."

        • Mary Sue

          and that is relevant how exactly?

          • George_Babbitt

            You are so ready to turn the world on it's head to save the 'State of Israel' from a bunch of ghetto thugs with AKs. There are bigger issues in the world, namely Russia, China and South America that can't be handled like the childish war games in the middle east.

  • George_Babbitt

    Christian Zionist's problem is that they have been snookered into believing that Christ’s fulfillment of the Mosaic Covenant is insufficient for the Jewish people. So, rather than grasping the spiritual reality that believers in Christ are collectively, as St. Paul put it, the “New Israel of God" they see only the carnal reality (the presence of a state called Israel) and imagines that, somehow or another, this is evidence of a dualistic meaning behind Old Testament references to “Israel”. Such dualism existed for a time, of course, as Christ tried so hard to explain to the Pharisees, but the whole matter was conflated in Christ at the Cross. There is no covenant available to those Jews who refuse to accept Christ as their King. Purely and Simply. That’s not anti-semitic. That’s the Truth. And it is a truth which cost Stephen his life (Acts, Ch. 7). It’s a shame that Christians under the influence of Zionistic wicked idolatry of Israel (the modern state of) care more for Christ-hating Jews than they do for Stephen (the first martyr for our faith)….This is the “crux” of the matter.

    We are to love Christ above all else. In Christ, we are the family of God. In Christ, we are the Israel of God. In Christ we are, as St. Peter put it (while quoting the Old Testament verbatim): “a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people of his own…” (1 Peter 2:9). What Christian Zionists need to do is spend less time raising (making) money lauding the Jewish state, and spend more time reading the New Covenant/Testament. Otherwise, their rhetoric is leading souls straight to hell.

    • Titus 3:5

      "Christian Zionist's problem is that they have been snookered "

      WHY do YOU CARE?

      • George_Babbitt

        If you had read what I wrote beyond the first few lines, you would have seen the raison d'être –>" their rhetoric is leading souls straight to hell."

  • Ghostwriter

    Mr. Babbitt sounds like he's been watching "The Eternal Jew" on DVD. And for those who don't know what I'm talking about,it's a "documentary" that the Nazis made to bash Jews. That film basically portrayed Jews as vermin. Similar to the posts of people like George_Babbitt.

    • George_Babbitt

      Let me once again make myself clear so that these remarks by Ghostwriter may have no basis in truth. Those who profess a Jewish identity, whether that be religious, corporate, secular, racial or any combination of these, including ones I am unaware of, are of the same worth as humans to any other human on this planet, both in my temporal/mortal eyes and also, as I believe, in the eyes of the eternal/heavenly God.It doesn't get any more plain than this, and if there are any assertions made, by anyone, that are contrary to this simple sincere declaration, I denounce them as false forthwith and forever. Let us have no more of it, please. Merely engage me on what I say and do not add your own opinions on what you think that I think or feel.

  • Tim Gilman

    With all respect Ryan, I was there at Wheaton as well and there was absolutely nothing that even came close to "hatred of Israel or the Jews" . . . Beginning with your headline you are not speaking the truth sir. Were you there . . . what is your source? I would be happy to speak with you privately . . . tbgilman@gmail.com

    Be a fair witness sir.

  • George_Babbitt

    Ghostwriter likes to make grand assumptions and leaps of insight on matters he knows nothing about i.e. ME. Despite multiple times of informing him of my sincere beliefs that are contrary to his libelous remarks, he continues to smear my name and statements as if they, or I, had any association with the disreputable organizations that he constantly likes to smear people with.

  • Stellar

    I’ve just skimmed these posts and the are ridiculous. I’m a student at Wheaton and I was at this conference. The blog writer doesn’t know what he’s talking about. EMEU is all about learning about and supporting Arabic-speaking Christians in the Middle East. They didn’t even talk about Israel. Geesh. This is all trash talk. But at least it would be nice if 5% of this blog post was accurate. I can’t even say that.

  • George_Babbitt

    Only if you are a 'State-of-Israel Firster.

    • Stellar

      What does that mean?

  • Davy Crockit

    Hi Stellar,
    I really did attend Wheaton College in the late 1960's. It was the best academic experience I possibly could have had. Transferred to a state university for my senior year and there was no comparison. It was like going to school in an airport or train station. Professors could have cared less about their undergrads.
    I did not attend the conference at the Billy Graham Center. Might have been interesting. I will say that I'm a little disturbed at the latest trend in the Evangelical Church to take a "more balanced" approach to the Middle East. This implies more sensitivity to Arab views and a search for common ground with Muslims of all levels of commitment. The thought is that if Evangelicals were a just a little less pro Israel and more willing to recognize value in Islam that missions would be more productive in Islamic countries and that Christians would be less likely to be persecuted. Nice thought, but kind of out of touch with Reality.
    I spent over two months in the Middle East in a summer studies program while at Wheaton. I eventually realized, Islam does not compromise. It will not rest until Israel is replaced with an Islamic state. And it is intent on spreading the Islamic system to the entire world. Failure to understand that is a fatal mistake. History teaches time and again that appeasement only leads to disaster. This is not the time to be blaming our theology or ourselves for the vicious persecution of Christians throughout the Muslim world. It's the time to speak up for them and place the blame where it belongs.

  • LooeyNoorey

    Control Hollywood, Not Guns!

    Instead of gun control, why not Hollywood control?
    Gun triggers are touched by fingers. But Hollywood, guided more by profits than OT prophets, poisons the minds that pull the triggers.
    Hollywood likes hiding behind the First Amendment more than abiding by the Ten Commandments, one of which says "Thou shalt not kill."
    Even more insidiously, some of the most powerful Hollywood moguls quietly embrace the most unspeakably evil forms of child abuse. Google or Yahoo "The Talmud" which says that Jewish adults are allowed to have sex with children as young as three years old!
    Also Google or Yahoo "Pedophilia: The Talmud's Dirty Secret." (There are those who even want to normalize and legalize pedophilia!)
    Why do some of us focus only on "mopping up" the aftereffects of Hollywood's overflowing sex-and-violence "faucet" instead of trying to shut it off? Let's control the big "guns" of Hollywood – and NOT guns!