Immoral Beyond Redemption

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Benjamin Franklin, statesman and signer of our Declaration of Independence, said: “Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters.” John Adams, another signer, echoed a similar statement: “Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” Are today’s Americans virtuous and moral, or have we become corrupt and vicious? Let’s think it through with a few questions.

Suppose I saw an elderly woman painfully huddled on a heating grate in the dead of winter. She’s hungry and in need of shelter and medical attention. To help the woman, I walk up to you using intimidation and threats and demand that you give me $200. Having taken your money, I then purchase food, shelter and medical assistance for the woman. Would I be guilty of a crime? A moral person would answer in the affirmative. I’ve committed theft by taking the property of one person to give to another.

Most Americans would agree that it would be theft regardless of what I did with the money. Now comes the hard part. Would it still be theft if I were able to get three people to agree that I should take your money? What if I got 100 people to agree — 100,000 or 200 million people? What if instead of personally taking your money to assist the woman, I got together with other Americans and asked Congress to use Internal Revenue Service agents to take your money? In other words, does an act that’s clearly immoral and illegal when done privately become moral when it is done legally and collectively? Put another way, does legality establish morality? Before you answer, keep in mind that slavery was legal; apartheid was legal; the Nazi’s Nuremberg Laws were legal; and the Stalinist and Maoist purges were legal. Legality alone cannot be the guide for moral people.

The moral question is whether it’s right to take what belongs to one person to give to another to whom it does not belong.

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  • Gene W 1938

    Liberals, Communists and most politicians are eager to take our money to attain support from the recipients but they seldom give their own money for the same cause.

  • zoebrain

    Scenario – gunman in Kindergarten. Has shot 3 children. You take his gun, one he legally owns, and give it to a teacher saying "cover him" while you try to resuscitate one of the victims who will die without your help.

    Scenario – warfare. I'm sure you can think of many cases where captured enemy weapons were taken and distributed to friendly forces.

    There is nothing sacred about "private property". By sacred I mean "sacrosanct, untouchable under all possible circumstances". In most cases though, respect is required, not just useful, but necessary.

    • Guest

      Sorry, but captured enemy weapons aren't private property.

  • wctaqiyya

    This article poses a false question. Everyone knows and the IRS tells us that since the taxpayer computes his own taxes, it's payment is voluntary. Therefore, there is no taking, it's a donation. So there.

    • Spider

      Oh really – Try not paying any taxes for a few years and watch how fast you are staring down a 40 caliber and dragged off to sit in a taxpayer funded 6 X 9 cage.

      • wctaqiyya

        Yes really, it is voluntary. Just because not paying taxes might get you arrested and imprisoned doesn't really change that fact. Because you have a choice, it is voluntary. Technically. People always have choices to make. Pay or prison is just one of them. Choices. When you make a decision, you make it.

        IMO, the author of the article above should have asked if it is morally right to comply with a wrongful government order or request to pay. Because that is the heart of the matter. Just as the taker commits a wrongful act, the decision to submit to that wrongful act is also wrong. If it is wrong to take, it must also be wrong to cooperate in that taking. Do you see?

        The fact that 300 million people submit to immoral takings doesn't make it less wrong. It may even make it worse, since the government can do much more harm with all that money. And it does.

        • mrbean

          I sure you and Weslety Snipes will agree. Bythe way he is in the federal penitentuary for income tax evasion because he forgot to errr…aahhhh….hhmmmm…volunteer!

          • wctaqiyya

            Well, if you understand it, why don't everyone else? Heck, it ain't complicated.

  • Stuart Parsons

    Apparently the storiesof the good Samaritan and the widow's mite have not yet reached the United States. I had always thought of the U.S as a Christian country. It would appear I am wrong. If you move any further to the right, you are going to fall off the edge of the world. I would image you all make Jesus's dad very unhappy.

    • wctaqiyya

      Apparently you missed the point of the article. Also, the author does not write on behalf of an entire nation. How else can I help you?

    • mrbean

      Is that Joesph or some guy that posed as an angel heh heh heh….

  • Ronald Johnston

    The liberal leftist yellow-bellies are simply criminals!!! Would you ask any of them to look out for any of your property? That is what they are doing with this evil government. They are looking out for our property!!! How is it working out???