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	<title>Comments on: The New York Times vs. David Mamet</title>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bruce]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jul 2013 11:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bravo! Your honesty and respect for the wonderfully creative and fierce individuality of David Mamet deserves  a true,deep nod.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bravo! Your honesty and respect for the wonderfully creative and fierce individuality of David Mamet deserves  a true,deep nod.</p>
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		<title>By: lee</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 May 2013 13:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Many years ago, before Mamet&#039;s VV &quot;coming out,&quot; I wrote a paper for a grad school class about Jewish Identity in Mamet&#039;s plays. I had read EVERYTHING Mamet had published by that point in time, and had read many interviews with him. I got reamed for my conclusions, one of which was that deep down, he was conservative, and he struggled with that. After his Village Voice piece, I was tempted to send it, along with my paper to my old prof, with a brief note reading, &quot;Ha!&quot; (BTW, when I wrote the paper, I myself was still a brain-dead liberal. But I was starting to wise up, at this point, though my eventual wake-up call was 9/12.) ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many years ago, before Mamet&#039;s VV &quot;coming out,&quot; I wrote a paper for a grad school class about Jewish Identity in Mamet&#039;s plays. I had read EVERYTHING Mamet had published by that point in time, and had read many interviews with him. I got reamed for my conclusions, one of which was that deep down, he was conservative, and he struggled with that. After his Village Voice piece, I was tempted to send it, along with my paper to my old prof, with a brief note reading, &quot;Ha!&quot; (BTW, when I wrote the paper, I myself was still a brain-dead liberal. But I was starting to wise up, at this point, though my eventual wake-up call was 9/12.) </p>
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		<title>By: al3ab</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[al3ab]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Apr 2013 23:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Donald Mamet is a superb National playwright. He or she is being attacked from the leftist mass media plus the Democratic party because this individual doesn&#039;t feel their own suggestions. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Donald Mamet is a superb National playwright. He or she is being attacked from the leftist mass media plus the Democratic party because this individual doesn&#039;t feel their own suggestions. </p>
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		<title>By: Mike Sullivan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Sullivan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Apr 2013 21:38:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Amen.  
I&#039;m not smart enough to understand what I think when presented with a dilemma like that. I am happy that God created men like Mamet who can challenge me to think at that level. I don&#039;t suppose the Ashland Shakespearean Festival in Oregon would be bold enough to touch it??? ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen.<br />
I&#039;m not smart enough to understand what I think when presented with a dilemma like that. I am happy that God created men like Mamet who can challenge me to think at that level. I don&#039;t suppose the Ashland Shakespearean Festival in Oregon would be bold enough to touch it??? </p>
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		<title>By: pt sargent</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pt sargent]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Apr 2013 16:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Me too! It was a tour d&#039;force piece that stays with one.  Most appreciated. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Me too! It was a tour d&#039;force piece that stays with one.  Most appreciated. </p>
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		<title>By: Jim_C</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim_C]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Apr 2013 15:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You may just be right.  
 
In his autobiography (which is self-serving, no doubt, but not in the obvious ways that, say, the dreadful Clapton autobiog is) he recounts how in a short time period while he was doing the protest-singer thing in NYC, he heard an early acetate of Robert Johnson (whose recordings were not public yet) and had also been very affected by seeing Threepenny Opera. Thinking of that weird Delta hellhound mixing with Brecht and Weill&#039;s shifty street dwellers mixing with Guthrie&#039;s Whitman-esque verbiage, it&#039;s like, &quot;Oh, THAT&#039;S how he did what he did.&quot; ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You may just be right.  </p>
<p>In his autobiography (which is self-serving, no doubt, but not in the obvious ways that, say, the dreadful Clapton autobiog is) he recounts how in a short time period while he was doing the protest-singer thing in NYC, he heard an early acetate of Robert Johnson (whose recordings were not public yet) and had also been very affected by seeing Threepenny Opera. Thinking of that weird Delta hellhound mixing with Brecht and Weill&#039;s shifty street dwellers mixing with Guthrie&#039;s Whitman-esque verbiage, it&#039;s like, &quot;Oh, THAT&#039;S how he did what he did.&quot; </p>
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		<title>By: tagalog</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tagalog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Apr 2013 15:42:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;If it wasn&#039;t self-indulgent I wouldn&#039;t do it.&quot;  
 
Good one - God bless Jerry Garcia!  
 
Back in those old days, you never knew for sure what would last and what wouldn&#039;t. I had a friend I used to listen to music with (he turned me on to Dylan) who was certain that Tommy Sands&#039;s music was going to last forever. I was a big fan of a group known as The Silkie. Who remembers them now? In a time when a pop singer&#039;s career, if it was REALLY good, lasted about 3 years (remember Buddy Holly!), it was hard to tell. But Dylan was special. I hate to say it because I never really saw it, so was Elvis (in his own way).  
 
Speaking of the Grateful Dead, they seemed to have a visible destiny. I am proud to say that I was an early fan, and one of the high points of my musical interest is the time they performed at the New York Pavilion left over from the 1964 World&#039;s Fair in Queens. I was one of only about 300 people who showed up. New Yorkers didn&#039;t know much about them at the time. I kept shouting for them to sing &quot;Cream Puff War,&quot; but they ignored me. The opening bands were even more unknown at the time: Joe Cocker and Leon Russell. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;If it wasn&#039;t self-indulgent I wouldn&#039;t do it.&quot;  </p>
<p>Good one &#8211; God bless Jerry Garcia!  </p>
<p>Back in those old days, you never knew for sure what would last and what wouldn&#039;t. I had a friend I used to listen to music with (he turned me on to Dylan) who was certain that Tommy Sands&#039;s music was going to last forever. I was a big fan of a group known as The Silkie. Who remembers them now? In a time when a pop singer&#039;s career, if it was REALLY good, lasted about 3 years (remember Buddy Holly!), it was hard to tell. But Dylan was special. I hate to say it because I never really saw it, so was Elvis (in his own way).  </p>
<p>Speaking of the Grateful Dead, they seemed to have a visible destiny. I am proud to say that I was an early fan, and one of the high points of my musical interest is the time they performed at the New York Pavilion left over from the 1964 World&#039;s Fair in Queens. I was one of only about 300 people who showed up. New Yorkers didn&#039;t know much about them at the time. I kept shouting for them to sing &quot;Cream Puff War,&quot; but they ignored me. The opening bands were even more unknown at the time: Joe Cocker and Leon Russell. </p>
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		<title>By: Jim_C</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim_C]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Apr 2013 15:32:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not envious by nature, but I must say it must have been cool to hear all that music when it came out in the context in which it came out. I agree with your assessment of the Dylan catalog. His new stuff is highly overrated by overly pious critics, but it does still show a fire in the belly and I can only think of Neil Young of his generation who still seems to have that passion to create something other than lullabys and MOR dreck.  
  
The sad truth is that period you were lucky enough to witness was the watershed of popular music as &quot;art.&quot;  More great popular music was made between, oh, 1965-1972 than at any time since. For all its attendant social flaws, it was a real renaissance, and music for that short time occupied an exalted place.  
  
Now it is pretty much back to just being entertainment. That&#039;s OK, too. Once the music started to strain after Significance  it got lousy.  
  
Gotta love Marxism: &quot;Bourgeois indulgence&quot;--as opposed to? Slave chants? Bach partitas? Sea chanties? I&#039;m not a fan of the Grateful Dead, but as Jerry said: &quot;Of ocurse our music is self-indulgent. If it wasn&#039;t self-indulgent, I wouldn&#039;t do it!&quot; ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m not envious by nature, but I must say it must have been cool to hear all that music when it came out in the context in which it came out. I agree with your assessment of the Dylan catalog. His new stuff is highly overrated by overly pious critics, but it does still show a fire in the belly and I can only think of Neil Young of his generation who still seems to have that passion to create something other than lullabys and MOR dreck.  </p>
<p>The sad truth is that period you were lucky enough to witness was the watershed of popular music as &quot;art.&quot;  More great popular music was made between, oh, 1965-1972 than at any time since. For all its attendant social flaws, it was a real renaissance, and music for that short time occupied an exalted place.  </p>
<p>Now it is pretty much back to just being entertainment. That&#039;s OK, too. Once the music started to strain after Significance  it got lousy.  </p>
<p>Gotta love Marxism: &quot;Bourgeois indulgence&quot;&#8211;as opposed to? Slave chants? Bach partitas? Sea chanties? I&#039;m not a fan of the Grateful Dead, but as Jerry said: &quot;Of ocurse our music is self-indulgent. If it wasn&#039;t self-indulgent, I wouldn&#039;t do it!&quot; </p>
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		<title>By: tagalog</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tagalog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Apr 2013 13:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dylan&#039;s ways aren&#039;t bad, just not terribly interesting. He wrote interesting songs for the time and place. Their problem insofar as art is concerned is that they&#039;re very topical and relevant to their time, but not to later times. No one thought that in the day, but it&#039;s turned out to be true. Those obscure songs are the perfect expression of what Marxists classify as &quot;bourgeois self-indulgence.&quot; Not that they&#039;re not good - you and I agree on &quot;Visions of Johanna.&quot; That one is Dylan at his very best. I would say &quot;Rimbaud-esque,&quot; but like many a person who compared Dylan to Rimbaud all those years ago, I&#039;ve never read his poetry.  
 
Interestingly enough, his interpretations of the old folk songs are almost always very good and original. I bet they will live as long as there&#039;s interest in folk music. He&#039;s at his best when he&#039;s not being self-consciously arty.  
 
In the first year of Dylan&#039;s popularity, I didn&#039;t like him. By 1962 I was a fan. &quot;Desolation Row&quot; and &quot;Subterranean Homesick Blues&quot; knocked me out. I was a fanatic by the time of Blond on Blond (Blonde on Blonde? I forget - anyway, his best album) - what was that, 1966? Hard to believe that was almost 50 years ago. I had a short-lived radio show at the NYU college station that was all Dylan. I kind of lost interest in Dylan after Nashville Skyline, but revived a less intense interest when he issued Blood On The Tracks, then lost interest again, only to have a mild second revival when Good As I Been To You came out. Now I&#039;m back to indifference. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dylan&#039;s ways aren&#039;t bad, just not terribly interesting. He wrote interesting songs for the time and place. Their problem insofar as art is concerned is that they&#039;re very topical and relevant to their time, but not to later times. No one thought that in the day, but it&#039;s turned out to be true. Those obscure songs are the perfect expression of what Marxists classify as &quot;bourgeois self-indulgence.&quot; Not that they&#039;re not good &#8211; you and I agree on &quot;Visions of Johanna.&quot; That one is Dylan at his very best. I would say &quot;Rimbaud-esque,&quot; but like many a person who compared Dylan to Rimbaud all those years ago, I&#039;ve never read his poetry.  </p>
<p>Interestingly enough, his interpretations of the old folk songs are almost always very good and original. I bet they will live as long as there&#039;s interest in folk music. He&#039;s at his best when he&#039;s not being self-consciously arty.  </p>
<p>In the first year of Dylan&#039;s popularity, I didn&#039;t like him. By 1962 I was a fan. &quot;Desolation Row&quot; and &quot;Subterranean Homesick Blues&quot; knocked me out. I was a fanatic by the time of Blond on Blond (Blonde on Blonde? I forget &#8211; anyway, his best album) &#8211; what was that, 1966? Hard to believe that was almost 50 years ago. I had a short-lived radio show at the NYU college station that was all Dylan. I kind of lost interest in Dylan after Nashville Skyline, but revived a less intense interest when he issued Blood On The Tracks, then lost interest again, only to have a mild second revival when Good As I Been To You came out. Now I&#039;m back to indifference. </p>
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		<title>By: Jim_C</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim_C]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Apr 2013 13:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He was ambitious, no doubt. Is that bad? There is a certain degree to which he used the folkies. He was always angling to have a rock band like he did back in Minnesota; but as a Guthrie acolyte he saw the opportunity to &quot;start his business.&quot; You just needed a guitar and something to say. 
 
As to his famous &quot;protest&quot; songs, they are 1. Far better than most and 2. Less overtly &quot;left&quot; than most. 
 
Where (e.g.) Joni Mitchell&#039;s cache is already limited mainly to people her age, all roads in the last 50 years of popular music lead back to Dylan and the Beatles (and James Brown). Of course, it&#039;s not the sound of the music with Dylan so much as the feel of the songs, if you know what I mean. I didn&#039;t get into him until my 20s for that reason. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He was ambitious, no doubt. Is that bad? There is a certain degree to which he used the folkies. He was always angling to have a rock band like he did back in Minnesota; but as a Guthrie acolyte he saw the opportunity to &quot;start his business.&quot; You just needed a guitar and something to say. </p>
<p>As to his famous &quot;protest&quot; songs, they are 1. Far better than most and 2. Less overtly &quot;left&quot; than most. </p>
<p>Where (e.g.) Joni Mitchell&#039;s cache is already limited mainly to people her age, all roads in the last 50 years of popular music lead back to Dylan and the Beatles (and James Brown). Of course, it&#039;s not the sound of the music with Dylan so much as the feel of the songs, if you know what I mean. I didn&#039;t get into him until my 20s for that reason. </p>
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		<title>By: tagalog</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tagalog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Apr 2013 13:25:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The ghost of electricity howls in the bones of her face.&quot; 
 
I bet you $20 Dylan wrote that line with Toulouse-Lautrec&#039;s painting &quot;At the Moulin Rouge&quot; in mind. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;The ghost of electricity howls in the bones of her face.&quot; </p>
<p>I bet you $20 Dylan wrote that line with Toulouse-Lautrec&#039;s painting &quot;At the Moulin Rouge&quot; in mind. </p>
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		<title>By: tagalog</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tagalog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Apr 2013 13:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Devil always delivers but his interpration of your sales contract may not be yours.  I recall the story of the guy who sold his soul to Satan in exchange for eternal life but forgot to get Satan to stipulate that he&#039;d be eternally youthful, so he just kept getting older and older for all eternity. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Devil always delivers but his interpration of your sales contract may not be yours.  I recall the story of the guy who sold his soul to Satan in exchange for eternal life but forgot to get Satan to stipulate that he&#039;d be eternally youthful, so he just kept getting older and older for all eternity. </p>
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		<title>By: Jim_C</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim_C]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Apr 2013 13:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My fave of his. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My fave of his. </p>
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		<title>By: tagalog</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tagalog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Apr 2013 12:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There&#039;s a pithy quote on every page. I know because I wrote them down in a notebook as I read them. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#039;s a pithy quote on every page. I know because I wrote them down in a notebook as I read them. </p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Apr 2013 11:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Has Neil Simon dropped in NTY esteem as his politics changed? ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has Neil Simon dropped in NTY esteem as his politics changed? </p>
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		<title>By: PacRim Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PacRim Jim]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Apr 2013 04:34:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Can America qua America survive the lies? 
A second American Revolution might be necessary. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can America qua America survive the lies?<br />
A second American Revolution might be necessary. </p>
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		<title>By: tagalog</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Apr 2013 00:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My vote for Dylan&#039;s greatest song of his Obscure Lyrics Period is &quot;Visions of Johanna.&quot; ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My vote for Dylan&#039;s greatest song of his Obscure Lyrics Period is &quot;Visions of Johanna.&quot; </p>
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		<title>By: tagalog</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Apr 2013 23:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Of course, Dylan early on was perfectly content to be a &quot;protest singer,&quot; as such songs as &quot;The Lonesome Death of Hattie Carroll,&quot; &quot;Hollis Brown,&quot; &quot;Only a Pawn In Their Game,&quot; &quot;The Ballad of Emmett Till,&quot; &quot;Masters of War,&quot; and a host of others will readilty attest. Being a &quot;protest singer&quot; gave him a stage that his awful voice and obscure lyrics never could.  
 
Oh gosh, I forgot my favorite protest song, &quot;A Hard Rain&#039;s Gonna Fall.&quot; I&#039;m not being sarcastic - I agree that you gotta know your song well before you start singin&#039;. I also forgot &quot;When the Ship Comes In,&quot; (Joan Baez claims that Dylan tapped that one out in 2 hours after being inspired by getting bad service at a motel), &quot;With God On Our Side,&quot; and &quot;Chimes of Freedom&quot; (The Byrds did the best version). Also, even in his transition between Protest Singer Period and Obscure Lyrics Period, he did songs like &quot;Sad-Eyed Lady of the Lowlands&quot; and &quot;I Pity the Poor Immigrant.&quot; My mom wouldn&#039;t let me play that song in the house - it made her seethe with anger.  
 
I have read several biographies of Bob Dylan. I haven&#039;t read his autobiography because 1. I&#039;ve lost interest in Dylan, and 2. Dylan&#039;s autobiography is surely full of self-serving lies, as all autobiographies are, except that Dylan&#039;s life isn&#039;t interesting enough to justify trying to penetrate the lies. 3. Dylan is rapidly fading away; it won&#039;t be long before he is like Sarah Bernhardt to newer generations - they might know the name but nothing else.  
 
I also lived in New York City during the last gasp of the folkie years (that&#039;s where I found out how small-sized a person Judy Collins is) and hung out at the Folk Center. I even went to Koerner, Ray, and Glover concerts a time or two. I even still like the song &quot;Children of Darkness&quot; by Richard Farina and Mimi Baez, as well as their song &quot;Morgan the Pirate,&quot; about Dylan. My favorite book on Dylan and the folk era is &quot;Positively Fourth Street,&quot; a work that pretty well nails the time and place as well as the people. My favorite movie about Dylan is &quot;Don&#039;t Look Back,&quot; which reveals him in my opinion most realistically, except that it misses his fanatical urge for notoriety. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, Dylan early on was perfectly content to be a &quot;protest singer,&quot; as such songs as &quot;The Lonesome Death of Hattie Carroll,&quot; &quot;Hollis Brown,&quot; &quot;Only a Pawn In Their Game,&quot; &quot;The Ballad of Emmett Till,&quot; &quot;Masters of War,&quot; and a host of others will readilty attest. Being a &quot;protest singer&quot; gave him a stage that his awful voice and obscure lyrics never could.  </p>
<p>Oh gosh, I forgot my favorite protest song, &quot;A Hard Rain&#039;s Gonna Fall.&quot; I&#039;m not being sarcastic &#8211; I agree that you gotta know your song well before you start singin&#039;. I also forgot &quot;When the Ship Comes In,&quot; (Joan Baez claims that Dylan tapped that one out in 2 hours after being inspired by getting bad service at a motel), &quot;With God On Our Side,&quot; and &quot;Chimes of Freedom&quot; (The Byrds did the best version). Also, even in his transition between Protest Singer Period and Obscure Lyrics Period, he did songs like &quot;Sad-Eyed Lady of the Lowlands&quot; and &quot;I Pity the Poor Immigrant.&quot; My mom wouldn&#039;t let me play that song in the house &#8211; it made her seethe with anger.  </p>
<p>I have read several biographies of Bob Dylan. I haven&#039;t read his autobiography because 1. I&#039;ve lost interest in Dylan, and 2. Dylan&#039;s autobiography is surely full of self-serving lies, as all autobiographies are, except that Dylan&#039;s life isn&#039;t interesting enough to justify trying to penetrate the lies. 3. Dylan is rapidly fading away; it won&#039;t be long before he is like Sarah Bernhardt to newer generations &#8211; they might know the name but nothing else.  </p>
<p>I also lived in New York City during the last gasp of the folkie years (that&#039;s where I found out how small-sized a person Judy Collins is) and hung out at the Folk Center. I even went to Koerner, Ray, and Glover concerts a time or two. I even still like the song &quot;Children of Darkness&quot; by Richard Farina and Mimi Baez, as well as their song &quot;Morgan the Pirate,&quot; about Dylan. My favorite book on Dylan and the folk era is &quot;Positively Fourth Street,&quot; a work that pretty well nails the time and place as well as the people. My favorite movie about Dylan is &quot;Don&#039;t Look Back,&quot; which reveals him in my opinion most realistically, except that it misses his fanatical urge for notoriety. </p>
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		<title>By: @shadeybaby</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Apr 2013 23:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Or perhaps they gave those plays a bad review because they legitimately didn&#039;t like them? Anyone ever think of that? ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or perhaps they gave those plays a bad review because they legitimately didn&#039;t like them? Anyone ever think of that? </p>
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		<title>By: Maggie</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maggie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Apr 2013 22:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I love Mamet&#039;s work and have seen most of it.  I long ago cancelled my New York Times subscription. I just with there were more brilliant people in the Arts like him. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love Mamet&#039;s work and have seen most of it.  I long ago cancelled my New York Times subscription. I just with there were more brilliant people in the Arts like him. </p>
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