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		<title>By: hiernonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/ari-lieberman/staking-out-israels-lawful-claims-to-the-west-bank/comment-page-1/#comment-5309775</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hiernonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Nov 2013 01:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Correct.  As I&#039;ve noted before, if you have an argument to make, feel free to make it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correct.  As I&#8217;ve noted before, if you have an argument to make, feel free to make it.</p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/ari-lieberman/staking-out-israels-lawful-claims-to-the-west-bank/comment-page-1/#comment-5309750</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[objectivefactsmatter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Nov 2013 00:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I see you haven&#039;t worked on that question of whether you&#039;re omniscient.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see you haven&#8217;t worked on that question of whether you&#8217;re omniscient.</p>
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		<title>By: hiernonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/ari-lieberman/staking-out-israels-lawful-claims-to-the-west-bank/comment-page-1/#comment-5309726</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hiernonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Nov 2013 23:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;If I was a leftist baby I&#039;d cry about being labeled or dehumanized.&quot; 
 
Ah.  You would assert that you&#039;re not crying now, I take it?  I&#039;m apparently having more trouble with your very loose use of the language.

&quot;Which led to hundred of comments with no substance.&quot;
 
The realization is late coming to you, but well spotted at last.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If I was a leftist baby I&#8217;d cry about being labeled or dehumanized.&#8221; </p>
<p>Ah.  You would assert that you&#8217;re not crying now, I take it?  I&#8217;m apparently having more trouble with your very loose use of the language.</p>
<p>&#8220;Which led to hundred of comments with no substance.&#8221;</p>
<p>The realization is late coming to you, but well spotted at last.</p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/ari-lieberman/staking-out-israels-lawful-claims-to-the-west-bank/comment-page-1/#comment-5309717</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[objectivefactsmatter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Nov 2013 22:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;An obvious objection to labeling is that it&#039;s intellectually lazy and dishonest. For example, I&#039;m neither &#039;leftist&#039; nor a &#039;propagandist,&#039; but you&#039;ll repeat those allegations - and others - in a transparent attempt to discredit ideas through alleged associations. You then throw in a claim that objecting to such labels is 1) typically leftist, and 2) &quot;crying and moaning.&quot;&quot;

My arguments and suggestions don&#039;t depend on those statements. It&#039;s more like a quick summary of conclusions I&#039;ve made based on the sum of conversations with you. Most people would understand that I&#039;m simply summarizing rather than repeating my arguments over and over again.

And the whole &quot;labeling&quot; idea comes from the same babyish objection as &quot;dehumanizing&quot; complaints. If I call you a monkey, that&#039;s technically a statement that your subhuman. But most people can discern according to context whether to take it literally. By coming up with the whole &quot;dehumanizing&quot; and &quot;labeling&quot; accusations leftists can whine about the same kind of complaint about supposed due respect and whatnot that people today in the West are programmed to accept without questioning.

&quot;Labeling&quot; as you use it is a shame word to try to prevent me from drawing conclusions that you don&#039;t like. For me it&#039;s a timesaver that hopefully adults can accept and get value from, understanding that I&#039;ve already justified that judgment and if not they can challenge my discernment rather than my word style of communication or lack of political correctness.

&quot;In short, you engage in associative fallacies and attempt to preempt objection by associating the act of objecting with &quot;the leftists&quot; -- not to mention characterizing such objections as &quot;crying and moaning.&quot; It doesn&#039;t get much more nakedly intellectually dishonest than that.&quot;

No, it&#039;s not the act of objecting at all. It&#039;s the whining and the leftist theories behind the objections. It&#039;s the exact same set of dogmas that led you to &quot;label&quot; me as xenophobic and so forth and then btw you later complained about &quot;labeling.&quot;


I didn&#039;t cry and moan. I asked you to justify the ideas behind the words. Which led to hundred of comments with no substance. If I was a leftist baby I&#039;d cry about being labeled or dehumanized. Maybe I&#039;d even call you a xenophobe. But since I&#039;m not a leftist, that&#039;s not my manner.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;An obvious objection to labeling is that it&#8217;s intellectually lazy and dishonest. For example, I&#8217;m neither &#8216;leftist&#8217; nor a &#8216;propagandist,&#8217; but you&#8217;ll repeat those allegations &#8211; and others &#8211; in a transparent attempt to discredit ideas through alleged associations. You then throw in a claim that objecting to such labels is 1) typically leftist, and 2) &#8220;crying and moaning.&#8221;&#8221;</p>
<p>My arguments and suggestions don&#8217;t depend on those statements. It&#8217;s more like a quick summary of conclusions I&#8217;ve made based on the sum of conversations with you. Most people would understand that I&#8217;m simply summarizing rather than repeating my arguments over and over again.</p>
<p>And the whole &#8220;labeling&#8221; idea comes from the same babyish objection as &#8220;dehumanizing&#8221; complaints. If I call you a monkey, that&#8217;s technically a statement that your subhuman. But most people can discern according to context whether to take it literally. By coming up with the whole &#8220;dehumanizing&#8221; and &#8220;labeling&#8221; accusations leftists can whine about the same kind of complaint about supposed due respect and whatnot that people today in the West are programmed to accept without questioning.</p>
<p>&#8220;Labeling&#8221; as you use it is a shame word to try to prevent me from drawing conclusions that you don&#8217;t like. For me it&#8217;s a timesaver that hopefully adults can accept and get value from, understanding that I&#8217;ve already justified that judgment and if not they can challenge my discernment rather than my word style of communication or lack of political correctness.</p>
<p>&#8220;In short, you engage in associative fallacies and attempt to preempt objection by associating the act of objecting with &#8220;the leftists&#8221; &#8212; not to mention characterizing such objections as &#8220;crying and moaning.&#8221; It doesn&#8217;t get much more nakedly intellectually dishonest than that.&#8221;</p>
<p>No, it&#8217;s not the act of objecting at all. It&#8217;s the whining and the leftist theories behind the objections. It&#8217;s the exact same set of dogmas that led you to &#8220;label&#8221; me as xenophobic and so forth and then btw you later complained about &#8220;labeling.&#8221;</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t cry and moan. I asked you to justify the ideas behind the words. Which led to hundred of comments with no substance. If I was a leftist baby I&#8217;d cry about being labeled or dehumanized. Maybe I&#8217;d even call you a xenophobe. But since I&#8217;m not a leftist, that&#8217;s not my manner.</p>
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		<title>By: Wolfthatknowsall</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/ari-lieberman/staking-out-israels-lawful-claims-to-the-west-bank/comment-page-1/#comment-5309693</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wolfthatknowsall]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Nov 2013 21:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And, once again ... sadly ... Israel has nothing to fear from the ICC.  It is a toothless agency, like all international agencies.  The ICC will not send an army to Israel to arrest anyone.  This is the situation on the ground ...


By the way, the &quot;larger states&quot; are divided and in conflict internally.  How are they going to establish this coalition that will wage a &quot;long war&quot; on Israel?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And, once again &#8230; sadly &#8230; Israel has nothing to fear from the ICC.  It is a toothless agency, like all international agencies.  The ICC will not send an army to Israel to arrest anyone.  This is the situation on the ground &#8230;</p>
<p>By the way, the &#8220;larger states&#8221; are divided and in conflict internally.  How are they going to establish this coalition that will wage a &#8220;long war&#8221; on Israel?</p>
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		<title>By: hiernonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/ari-lieberman/staking-out-israels-lawful-claims-to-the-west-bank/comment-page-1/#comment-5309536</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hiernonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Nov 2013 15:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Certainly people that consider themselves conservative and behave conservatively much of the time are impacted by the strong cultural hegemony of leftist ideas.&quot;

Group A and Group B display similar behavior, but Group A&#039;s behavior is &quot;typical&quot; of its beliefs, while Group B&#039;s behavior is aberrational.  Clearly, we need to keep the focus on Group A; once it&#039;s &#039;fixed,&#039; Group B&#039;s behavior will better reflect its ideology.
 
&quot;And by the way, even you, a leftist propagandist...&quot;
 
Hold that line in your thoughts for a moment...

&quot;Treat people as individuals and try to grow a little thicker skin. It will help you grow in maturity as well when you do.&quot;&quot;
 
So, for example, deal with the arguments and comments that are provided, rather than trying to associate them with groups of which you disapprove in order to try to discredit them. Excellent advice.  
 
An obvious objection to labeling is that it&#039;s intellectually lazy and dishonest.  For example, I&#039;m neither &#039;leftist&#039; nor a &#039;propagandist,&#039; but you&#039;ll repeat those allegations - and others - in a transparent attempt to discredit ideas through alleged associations.  You then throw in a claim that objecting to such labels is 1) typically leftist, and 2) &quot;crying and moaning.&quot;  

In short, you engage in associative fallacies and attempt to preempt objection by associating &lt;i&gt;the act of objecting&lt;/i&gt; with &quot;the leftists&quot; -- not to mention characterizing such objections as &quot;crying and moaning.&quot; It doesn&#039;t get much more nakedly intellectually dishonest than that.

&quot;I&#039;ll agree that getting upset over trivial things is not unique to leftist robots.&quot;
 
True - nor is attempting to minimize one&#039;s own gaffes by characterizing them as &#039;trivial&#039; unique to a political outlook.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Certainly people that consider themselves conservative and behave conservatively much of the time are impacted by the strong cultural hegemony of leftist ideas.&#8221;</p>
<p>Group A and Group B display similar behavior, but Group A&#8217;s behavior is &#8220;typical&#8221; of its beliefs, while Group B&#8217;s behavior is aberrational.  Clearly, we need to keep the focus on Group A; once it&#8217;s &#8216;fixed,&#8217; Group B&#8217;s behavior will better reflect its ideology.</p>
<p>&#8220;And by the way, even you, a leftist propagandist&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Hold that line in your thoughts for a moment&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Treat people as individuals and try to grow a little thicker skin. It will help you grow in maturity as well when you do.&#8221;&#8221;</p>
<p>So, for example, deal with the arguments and comments that are provided, rather than trying to associate them with groups of which you disapprove in order to try to discredit them. Excellent advice.  </p>
<p>An obvious objection to labeling is that it&#8217;s intellectually lazy and dishonest.  For example, I&#8217;m neither &#8216;leftist&#8217; nor a &#8216;propagandist,&#8217; but you&#8217;ll repeat those allegations &#8211; and others &#8211; in a transparent attempt to discredit ideas through alleged associations.  You then throw in a claim that objecting to such labels is 1) typically leftist, and 2) &#8220;crying and moaning.&#8221;  </p>
<p>In short, you engage in associative fallacies and attempt to preempt objection by associating <i>the act of objecting</i> with &#8220;the leftists&#8221; &#8212; not to mention characterizing such objections as &#8220;crying and moaning.&#8221; It doesn&#8217;t get much more nakedly intellectually dishonest than that.</p>
<p>&#8220;I&#8217;ll agree that getting upset over trivial things is not unique to leftist robots.&#8221;</p>
<p>True &#8211; nor is attempting to minimize one&#8217;s own gaffes by characterizing them as &#8216;trivial&#8217; unique to a political outlook.</p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/ari-lieberman/staking-out-israels-lawful-claims-to-the-west-bank/comment-page-1/#comment-5309448</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[objectivefactsmatter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Nov 2013 09:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;RUSH:  Look, I understand how you feel.  I mean, your own company, as it were, your own government has classified you as nonessential.&quot;

That&#039;s not being offended about being &quot;labeled.&quot; It&#039;s the ideas that matter. Not the idea that, &quot;Once you give people labels, it&#039;s hard to see them as individuals.&quot;

It&#039;s the specific idea behind that statement (from your URL) that matters. Not that I agree with that whiny lunatic either. Certainly people that consider themselves conservative and behave conservatively much of the time are impacted by the strong cultural hegemony of leftist ideas. The guy is certainly too sensitive. They&#039;re just looking for things to complain about. Their arguments are not rational. Some conservatives believe they should emulate the tactics of the left when counter-attacking. This idea has limited value in my mind. Fake outrage rarely impresses anyone.

And by the way, even you, a leftist propagandist, exhibit qualities that don&#039;t fit the stereotypes. 

Treat people as individuals and try to grow a little thicker skin. It will help you grow in maturity as well when you do.

My statement stands: Your assumption that people should cry and moan about being &quot;labeled&quot; is distinctly leftist.


I&#039;ll agree that getting upset over trivial things is not unique to leftist robots.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;RUSH:  Look, I understand how you feel.  I mean, your own company, as it were, your own government has classified you as nonessential.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not being offended about being &#8220;labeled.&#8221; It&#8217;s the ideas that matter. Not the idea that, &#8220;Once you give people labels, it&#8217;s hard to see them as individuals.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the specific idea behind that statement (from your URL) that matters. Not that I agree with that whiny lunatic either. Certainly people that consider themselves conservative and behave conservatively much of the time are impacted by the strong cultural hegemony of leftist ideas. The guy is certainly too sensitive. They&#8217;re just looking for things to complain about. Their arguments are not rational. Some conservatives believe they should emulate the tactics of the left when counter-attacking. This idea has limited value in my mind. Fake outrage rarely impresses anyone.</p>
<p>And by the way, even you, a leftist propagandist, exhibit qualities that don&#8217;t fit the stereotypes. </p>
<p>Treat people as individuals and try to grow a little thicker skin. It will help you grow in maturity as well when you do.</p>
<p>My statement stands: Your assumption that people should cry and moan about being &#8220;labeled&#8221; is distinctly leftist.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll agree that getting upset over trivial things is not unique to leftist robots.</p>
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		<title>By: hiernonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/ari-lieberman/staking-out-israels-lawful-claims-to-the-west-bank/comment-page-1/#comment-5309400</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hiernonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Nov 2013 05:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Really?

 http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2013/10/02/an_offended_non_essential_employee]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really?</p>
<p> <a href="http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2013/10/02/an_offended_non_essential_employee" rel="nofollow">http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2013/10/02/an_offended_non_essential_employee</a></p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/ari-lieberman/staking-out-israels-lawful-claims-to-the-west-bank/comment-page-1/#comment-5309376</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[objectivefactsmatter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Nov 2013 04:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Yes, you did.&quot;



And you&#039;re omniscient. Or perhaps not. It&#039;s one or the other. Go work that out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Yes, you did.&#8221;</p>
<p>And you&#8217;re omniscient. Or perhaps not. It&#8217;s one or the other. Go work that out.</p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/ari-lieberman/staking-out-israels-lawful-claims-to-the-west-bank/comment-page-1/#comment-5309374</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[objectivefactsmatter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Nov 2013 04:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;&quot;Crying and moaning&quot; are now unique to the left, are they?&quot;



Your assumption that people should cry and moan about being &quot;labeled&quot; is distinctly leftist.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8221;Crying and moaning&#8221; are now unique to the left, are they?&#8221;</p>
<p>Your assumption that people should cry and moan about being &#8220;labeled&#8221; is distinctly leftist.</p>
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		<title>By: hiernonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/ari-lieberman/staking-out-israels-lawful-claims-to-the-west-bank/comment-page-1/#comment-5309369</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hiernonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Nov 2013 04:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Gee, I missed that...&quot;
 
Yes, you did. 

&quot;You still can&#039;t argue that you should be taken seriously. But you are good for a laugh more often than you realize.&quot;

Of course.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Gee, I missed that&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, you did. </p>
<p>&#8220;You still can&#8217;t argue that you should be taken seriously. But you are good for a laugh more often than you realize.&#8221;</p>
<p>Of course.</p>
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		<title>By: hiernonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/ari-lieberman/staking-out-israels-lawful-claims-to-the-west-bank/comment-page-1/#comment-5309367</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hiernonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Nov 2013 04:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;I&#039;m not a leftist, so I won&#039;t cry and moan.&quot;
 
&quot;Crying and moaning&quot; are now unique to the left, are they?
 
&quot;Or is that another childish &quot;you too&quot; response?&quot;
 
&quot;Too?&quot;  No.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I&#8217;m not a leftist, so I won&#8217;t cry and moan.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Crying and moaning&#8221; are now unique to the left, are they?</p>
<p>&#8220;Or is that another childish &#8220;you too&#8221; response?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Too?&#8221;  No.</p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/ari-lieberman/staking-out-israels-lawful-claims-to-the-west-bank/comment-page-1/#comment-5309360</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[objectivefactsmatter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Nov 2013 04:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;One would think that the effort to be honest with one&#039;s self would be independent of the political leanings and expectations of others, but no matter.&quot;

It is independent. That&#039;s the point. If I care what you think just because you stomp your feet, I need better reasons than that.

&quot;In the ensuing years, I&#039;ve found that the readiness to accuse others of lying is as good an indicator as any of the readiness to lie.&quot;



That&#039;s fascinating but taking the entire conversation backwards. I explained my reasons for questioning your honesty. Your refusal to examine certain things meant that either your deceived about the importance or you know the importance and you&#039;re lying about your loyalties.


It&#039;s just a matter of facts as best can be determined here. If you have reason to question my honesty beyond the fact that I challenged yours in that way, go ahead. I&#039;m not a leftist, so I won&#039;t cry and moan.


Got any other reasons for questioning my honesty? Or is that another childish &quot;you too&quot; response?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;One would think that the effort to be honest with one&#8217;s self would be independent of the political leanings and expectations of others, but no matter.&#8221;</p>
<p>It is independent. That&#8217;s the point. If I care what you think just because you stomp your feet, I need better reasons than that.</p>
<p>&#8220;In the ensuing years, I&#8217;ve found that the readiness to accuse others of lying is as good an indicator as any of the readiness to lie.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s fascinating but taking the entire conversation backwards. I explained my reasons for questioning your honesty. Your refusal to examine certain things meant that either your deceived about the importance or you know the importance and you&#8217;re lying about your loyalties.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s just a matter of facts as best can be determined here. If you have reason to question my honesty beyond the fact that I challenged yours in that way, go ahead. I&#8217;m not a leftist, so I won&#8217;t cry and moan.</p>
<p>Got any other reasons for questioning my honesty? Or is that another childish &#8220;you too&#8221; response?</p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[objectivefactsmatter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Nov 2013 04:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[LOL


Gee, I missed that...


You still can&#039;t argue that you should be taken seriously. But you are good for a laugh more often than you realize.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL</p>
<p>Gee, I missed that&#8230;</p>
<p>You still can&#8217;t argue that you should be taken seriously. But you are good for a laugh more often than you realize.</p>
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		<title>By: hiernonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hiernonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Nov 2013 02:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One would think that the effort to be honest with one&#039;s self would be independent of the political leanings and expectations of others, but no matter.  


Interestingly, honesty is one area in which I &lt;i&gt;was&lt;/i&gt; quite vigorously indoctrinated as an undergraduate, with no ironic sense intended.  &quot;A cadet will not lie, cheat, or still, nor tolerate those who do.&quot;   In the ensuing years, I&#039;ve found that the readiness to accuse others of lying is as good an indicator as any of the readiness to lie.  I&#039;ll leave you with that thought, if you&#039;re the introspective type.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One would think that the effort to be honest with one&#8217;s self would be independent of the political leanings and expectations of others, but no matter.  </p>
<p>Interestingly, honesty is one area in which I <i>was</i> quite vigorously indoctrinated as an undergraduate, with no ironic sense intended.  &#8220;A cadet will not lie, cheat, or still, nor tolerate those who do.&#8221;   In the ensuing years, I&#8217;ve found that the readiness to accuse others of lying is as good an indicator as any of the readiness to lie.  I&#8217;ll leave you with that thought, if you&#8217;re the introspective type.</p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[objectivefactsmatter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Nov 2013 02:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As soon as I start to care about meeting the expectations of myopic leftist propagandists, I surely will.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As soon as I start to care about meeting the expectations of myopic leftist propagandists, I surely will.</p>
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		<title>By: hiernonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hiernonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Nov 2013 02:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This should help:

&quot;Should it become important to me to be taken seriously &lt;strong&gt;by you,&lt;/strong&gt; I will keep that in mind.&quot;
 
More attentive reading, less posturing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This should help:</p>
<p>&#8220;Should it become important to me to be taken seriously <strong>by you,</strong> I will keep that in mind.&#8221;</p>
<p>More attentive reading, less posturing.</p>
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		<title>By: hiernonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hiernonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Nov 2013 02:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;At least I&#039;m consistently honest....I try to ensure that I&#039;m not deceiving myself.&quot;

You need to work a little harder at it.  

&quot;You OTOH want to present yourself as rational, balanced and open to evidence when you&#039;re a propagandist that attacks people for &quot;hate&quot; when it upsets you. Emotionally.&quot;
 
That would be a good place to start working harder at it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;At least I&#8217;m consistently honest&#8230;.I try to ensure that I&#8217;m not deceiving myself.&#8221;</p>
<p>You need to work a little harder at it.  </p>
<p>&#8220;You OTOH want to present yourself as rational, balanced and open to evidence when you&#8217;re a propagandist that attacks people for &#8220;hate&#8221; when it upsets you. Emotionally.&#8221;</p>
<p>That would be a good place to start working harder at it.</p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[objectivefactsmatter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Nov 2013 02:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;You are a sloppy reader.&quot;



Some times that&#039;s true. It&#039;s much more often here that you simply miss the point.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You are a sloppy reader.&#8221;</p>
<p>Some times that&#8217;s true. It&#8217;s much more often here that you simply miss the point.</p>
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		<title>By: hiernonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hiernonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Nov 2013 02:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;I&#039;m simply informing you where these theories and worldviews come from.&quot;

Well, you&#039;re informing me what you affect to believe is the case, at any rate.  

&quot; Your sensitivity and responses to this information reveals more than my comments.&quot;

You didn&#039;t set that bar very high.
 
&quot;At least you admit you&#039;re not being serious.&quot;
 
You &lt;i&gt;are&lt;/i&gt; a sloppy reader.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I&#8217;m simply informing you where these theories and worldviews come from.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, you&#8217;re informing me what you affect to believe is the case, at any rate.  </p>
<p>&#8221; Your sensitivity and responses to this information reveals more than my comments.&#8221;</p>
<p>You didn&#8217;t set that bar very high.</p>
<p>&#8220;At least you admit you&#8217;re not being serious.&#8221;</p>
<p>You <i>are</i> a sloppy reader.</p>
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