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	<title>Comments on: IRS&#8217;s Lois Lerner Pleads the Fifth</title>
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		<title>By: Kevin Stowell</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin Stowell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 17:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What have Demmunists fixed?  They had a technical supermajority for at least four months and for practical purposes much longer.  Can we expect results soon? ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What have Demmunists fixed?  They had a technical supermajority for at least four months and for practical purposes much longer.  Can we expect results soon? </p>
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		<title>By: 4_Constitution</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 17:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s one of my favorite movies b/c John Wayne and Katerine Hepburn are two  of my favorite actors.   ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#039;s one of my favorite movies b/c John Wayne and Katerine Hepburn are two  of my favorite actors.   </p>
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		<title>By: Mary Sue</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mary Sue]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 02:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[says the person who CLEARLY doesn&#039;t understand what &quot;pleading the fifth&quot; EVEN MEANS. 
 
It does not mean what you think it means. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>says the person who CLEARLY doesn&#039;t understand what &quot;pleading the fifth&quot; EVEN MEANS. </p>
<p>It does not mean what you think it means. </p>
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		<title>By: Mary Sue</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/arnold-ahlert/beginning-of-the-end-for-obamas-conservative-targeting-story/comment-page-1/#comment-5133245</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mary Sue]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 02:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Have fun turning Florida into California, dummy. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have fun turning Florida into California, dummy. </p>
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		<title>By: Mary Sue</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mary Sue]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 02:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[yeah she pretty much self-revoked it. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah she pretty much self-revoked it. </p>
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		<title>By: John Spielman</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Spielman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 00:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lerner must learn that what she did was not just wrong but that she is also quilty of criminal intimidation and racketeering and should go to prison. Hard lesson but one she must Lern. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lerner must learn that what she did was not just wrong but that she is also quilty of criminal intimidation and racketeering and should go to prison. Hard lesson but one she must Lern. </p>
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		<title>By: tagalog</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tagalog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 21:21:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How can you claim that every organization the IRS denied tax-exempt status to deserved it when the IRS officials won&#039;t answer any questions about whether they did or not?  
 
And how about the organizations -apparently only right-wing ones- that just got consigned to limbo without a yea or a nay on their applications for years? ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How can you claim that every organization the IRS denied tax-exempt status to deserved it when the IRS officials won&#039;t answer any questions about whether they did or not?  </p>
<p>And how about the organizations -apparently only right-wing ones- that just got consigned to limbo without a yea or a nay on their applications for years? </p>
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		<title>By: tagalog</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tagalog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 21:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hear hear.  Quite right. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hear hear.  Quite right. </p>
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		<title>By: slider 96</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[slider 96]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 18:20:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I didn&#039;t say that what the IRS did was right , but I&#039;d be willing to bet every ORG .they denied deserved it .  And by the IRS being wrong , that does not make people with obvious political agendas worthy of 501c [4] or [6 ] designation .  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#039;t say that what the IRS did was right , but I&#039;d be willing to bet every ORG .they denied deserved it .  And by the IRS being wrong , that does not make people with obvious political agendas worthy of 501c [4] or [6 ] designation .  </p>
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		<title>By: Looking4Sanity</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Looking4Sanity]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 17:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Break out the Congressional thumbscrews! ]]></description>
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		<title>By: pagegl</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pagegl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 17:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Read the Constitution, you might learn something. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Read the Constitution, you might learn something. </p>
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		<title>By: Looking4Sanity</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/arnold-ahlert/beginning-of-the-end-for-obamas-conservative-targeting-story/comment-page-1/#comment-5129898</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Looking4Sanity]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 17:22:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I got a flashback of Rooster Cogburn and the Lady when Struther Martin observes, &quot;A woman can no more keep her mouth shut than a yellow tailed catfish&quot;. Once you plead the Fifth, you clam up. She didn&#039;t. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got a flashback of Rooster Cogburn and the Lady when Struther Martin observes, &quot;A woman can no more keep her mouth shut than a yellow tailed catfish&quot;. Once you plead the Fifth, you clam up. She didn&#039;t. </p>
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		<title>By: pagegl</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 17:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kind of like Moveon.org is nonpartisan.  Yeah, right...  I guess it&#039;s okay for a leftist organization to get the tax status but not any Tea Party group.  Hypocrisy in action... ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kind of like Moveon.org is nonpartisan.  Yeah, right&#8230;  I guess it&#039;s okay for a leftist organization to get the tax status but not any Tea Party group.  Hypocrisy in action&#8230; </p>
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		<title>By: Looking4Sanity</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Looking4Sanity]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 17:19:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Someone forgot to tell her the most important part of the Fifth...after you invoke it, you have to shut up. She shafted herself. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone forgot to tell her the most important part of the Fifth&#8230;after you invoke it, you have to shut up. She shafted herself. </p>
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		<title>By: aposematic</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 16:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lerner ranted her arrogant hatred for the legal proceeding she was being forced in her evil mind to stoop and then referenced the 5th Amend. to couch her hatred of the law. That is not exercising her rights under the 5th. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lerner ranted her arrogant hatred for the legal proceeding she was being forced in her evil mind to stoop and then referenced the 5th Amend. to couch her hatred of the law. That is not exercising her rights under the 5th. </p>
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		<title>By: tagalog</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tagalog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 16:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The issue is that progressive organizations that did just as much politicking as groups with &quot;Tea Party&quot; and &quot;Patriot&quot; in their names got a pass while the latter did not.  
 
Also, the law requires the IRS to make a decision in a limited time frame (I think it&#039;s 270 days, nine months), one that is much shorter than the time period that actually went by for the Tea Partiers and the Patriots. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The issue is that progressive organizations that did just as much politicking as groups with &quot;Tea Party&quot; and &quot;Patriot&quot; in their names got a pass while the latter did not.  </p>
<p>Also, the law requires the IRS to make a decision in a limited time frame (I think it&#039;s 270 days, nine months), one that is much shorter than the time period that actually went by for the Tea Partiers and the Patriots. </p>
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		<title>By: tagalog</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tagalog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 15:49:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually, I&#039;m a criminal defense lawyer.  
 
Guilt always starts out being implied. That&#039;s why we have the trial system, to put the implication of guilt to the test.  
 
Guilt or innocence, in the sense of a legal finding, is quite close to the end, not the beginning, of criminal law enforcement in any particular case. What begins the process is a suspicion of guilt, which is always alleged -with great care and specificity-  at the outset of a prosecution; that&#039;s why courts and advocates are always sure to tell the finder of fact that &quot;the fact that there is a criminal complaint against the defendant is of no significance to the issue of guilt or innocence - it is an allegation only.&quot;  
 
Just for your information.  
 
And to repeat, Ms. Lerner is not accused of a crime, and she was not under arrest when she invoked the Fifth Amendment, so she is OBVIOUSLY being premature, in this instance and under these circumstances a circumstantial indication of guilty knowledge. And by refusing to answer questions, she is clearly guilty RIGHT NOW of the crime of contempt of Congress. Based on what the courts were willing to sentence people to for refusing to answer questions from HUAC about belonging to a political party (the CPUSA), she ought to get a year in a federal pen. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I&#039;m a criminal defense lawyer.  </p>
<p>Guilt always starts out being implied. That&#039;s why we have the trial system, to put the implication of guilt to the test.  </p>
<p>Guilt or innocence, in the sense of a legal finding, is quite close to the end, not the beginning, of criminal law enforcement in any particular case. What begins the process is a suspicion of guilt, which is always alleged -with great care and specificity-  at the outset of a prosecution; that&#039;s why courts and advocates are always sure to tell the finder of fact that &quot;the fact that there is a criminal complaint against the defendant is of no significance to the issue of guilt or innocence &#8211; it is an allegation only.&quot;  </p>
<p>Just for your information.  </p>
<p>And to repeat, Ms. Lerner is not accused of a crime, and she was not under arrest when she invoked the Fifth Amendment, so she is OBVIOUSLY being premature, in this instance and under these circumstances a circumstantial indication of guilty knowledge. And by refusing to answer questions, she is clearly guilty RIGHT NOW of the crime of contempt of Congress. Based on what the courts were willing to sentence people to for refusing to answer questions from HUAC about belonging to a political party (the CPUSA), she ought to get a year in a federal pen. </p>
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		<title>By: slider 96</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[slider 96]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 15:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you believe these groups are practicing &quot; social welfare &quot; then I got a bridge I wanna sell you in Brooklyn. 
Nobody&#039;s right if everyone &#039;s wrong .  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you believe these groups are practicing &quot; social welfare &quot; then I got a bridge I wanna sell you in Brooklyn.<br />
Nobody&#039;s right if everyone &#039;s wrong .  </p>
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		<title>By: slider 96</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[slider 96]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 15:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s right , and in America guilt or innocence must be FIRST established , not alleged or implied . What seems &quot;premature &quot; to you , is what any Lawyer in the country would say is elementary .  Good thing you&#039;re not a lawyer huh ?  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#039;s right , and in America guilt or innocence must be FIRST established , not alleged or implied . What seems &quot;premature &quot; to you , is what any Lawyer in the country would say is elementary .  Good thing you&#039;re not a lawyer huh ?  </p>
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		<title>By: slider 96</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[slider 96]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 15:40:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Although this so-called &#8220;facts and circumstances&#8221; test is murky, most tax experts think it would be workable if the IRS had the resources to enforce it. In practice, political 501(c)(4) groups on both sides of the ideological divide flagrantly violate the anti-electioneering rule, and the IRS only rarely responds. Just before the 2010 election, for example, Crossroads GPS ran a television advertisement accusing Pennsylvania Rep. Joe Sestak of voting to &#8220;gut Medicare&#8221; and &#8220;raise taxes over $5 billion.&#8221; During the same election season, the left-leaning Women&#039;s Voices Women Vote Action Fund ran an ad claiming that Colorado Senate candidate Ken Buck &#8220;refused to prosecute an admitted rapist&#8221; as district attorney. Political 501(c)(4) groups claim that such advertisements constitute social welfare work rather than campaigning because they don&#8217;t explicitly call on viewers to vote a certain way. That&#8217;s why so many recent ads have ended with statements like &#8220;Tell Ken Buck Colorado women deserve respect&#8221; rather than &#8220;vote against Ken Buck. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although this so-called &ldquo;facts and circumstances&rdquo; test is murky, most tax experts think it would be workable if the IRS had the resources to enforce it. In practice, political 501(c)(4) groups on both sides of the ideological divide flagrantly violate the anti-electioneering rule, and the IRS only rarely responds. Just before the 2010 election, for example, Crossroads GPS ran a television advertisement accusing Pennsylvania Rep. Joe Sestak of voting to &ldquo;gut Medicare&rdquo; and &ldquo;raise taxes over $5 billion.&rdquo; During the same election season, the left-leaning Women&#039;s Voices Women Vote Action Fund ran an ad claiming that Colorado Senate candidate Ken Buck &ldquo;refused to prosecute an admitted rapist&rdquo; as district attorney. Political 501(c)(4) groups claim that such advertisements constitute social welfare work rather than campaigning because they don&rsquo;t explicitly call on viewers to vote a certain way. That&rsquo;s why so many recent ads have ended with statements like &ldquo;Tell Ken Buck Colorado women deserve respect&rdquo; rather than &ldquo;vote against Ken Buck. </p>
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