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	<title>Comments on: The Government&#8217;s War on Poverty Reduction</title>
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		<title>By: nomoretraitors</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/arnold-ahlert/governments-war-on-poverty-reduction/comment-page-1/#comment-5326667</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nomoretraitors]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Dec 2013 16:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To put it in simple terms: It&#039;s moving the goal posts.
And why would the left want to eliminate poverty? It&#039;s BIG BUSINESS]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To put it in simple terms: It&#8217;s moving the goal posts.<br />
And why would the left want to eliminate poverty? It&#8217;s BIG BUSINESS</p>
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		<title>By: Ellman48</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ellman48]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Dec 2013 06:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Obama takes care of the rich through the Federal Reserve and the poor through welfare. The one group he could care less about, although he mentions them in his speeches all the time, is the &#039;middle class&#039; which ends up with less disposable income every year and more taxes to pay because the rich know how to avoid taxes and the &#039;poor&#039; have been exempted from paying them. So both the rich and the poor ride on the backs of the middle class but that latter seems to be do docile or preoccupied with getting by to care about being raped by the government.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama takes care of the rich through the Federal Reserve and the poor through welfare. The one group he could care less about, although he mentions them in his speeches all the time, is the &#8216;middle class&#8217; which ends up with less disposable income every year and more taxes to pay because the rich know how to avoid taxes and the &#8216;poor&#8217; have been exempted from paying them. So both the rich and the poor ride on the backs of the middle class but that latter seems to be do docile or preoccupied with getting by to care about being raped by the government.</p>
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		<title>By: Ellman48</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ellman48]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Dec 2013 05:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;It was gutted despite the reality that in the four years following its 
passage, welfare caseloads and childhood hunger numbers were cut nearly 
in half, even as employment surged, and poverty among single mothers and
 black Americans dropped to historic lows.&quot;


It was gutted because declining poverty levels and employment surges to NOT help progressive Democrats win political office. Rising poverty levels and extended unemployment benefits do benefit Democrats. Democrats WANT people to be dependent on government and to be less dependent on themselves and the opportunities provided in the free market economy. Their motivations and intentions are too obvious to be mistaken by anyone with enough common sense and valid information.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It was gutted despite the reality that in the four years following its<br />
passage, welfare caseloads and childhood hunger numbers were cut nearly<br />
in half, even as employment surged, and poverty among single mothers and<br />
 black Americans dropped to historic lows.&#8221;</p>
<p>It was gutted because declining poverty levels and employment surges to NOT help progressive Democrats win political office. Rising poverty levels and extended unemployment benefits do benefit Democrats. Democrats WANT people to be dependent on government and to be less dependent on themselves and the opportunities provided in the free market economy. Their motivations and intentions are too obvious to be mistaken by anyone with enough common sense and valid information.</p>
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		<title>By: Crassus</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Crassus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Dec 2013 03:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are lies, damn lies, and statistics.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are lies, damn lies, and statistics.</p>
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		<title>By: carltjohnson</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[carltjohnson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Dec 2013 01:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you John, I hope I addressed GForce&#039;s misconception above. This is a tough subject for most, and most do not realize that both sides have been disempowered with faux knowledge. It has been so since the fall of Babylon, the leaders of which, out of fear, dispersed and divided us and confounded our language so we would not be a threat to them...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you John, I hope I addressed GForce&#8217;s misconception above. This is a tough subject for most, and most do not realize that both sides have been disempowered with faux knowledge. It has been so since the fall of Babylon, the leaders of which, out of fear, dispersed and divided us and confounded our language so we would not be a threat to them&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: carltjohnson</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[carltjohnson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Dec 2013 01:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Aside from the assumption in this article; You are only addressing degrees of assimilated knowledge, the propensity of which may be inheritable or IQ., which is not a sign of intelligence...the degree one integrates this knowledge is, and all conscious humans have the necessary wherewithal to accomplish that. You also must understand that there is only one race of conscious beings, we come in all sizes shapes and colors...unfortunately, so does the other race on this planet...parasitical humanoids [scientific nomenclature]- with a lack of value creation and a lack of conscience, making them less than human in our sense. Incidentally, the latter has ruled over us for the past 8000 years...Ruled by&quot;The dumbest among us&quot;.
 Is that whom you choose to sleep with???]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aside from the assumption in this article; You are only addressing degrees of assimilated knowledge, the propensity of which may be inheritable or IQ., which is not a sign of intelligence&#8230;the degree one integrates this knowledge is, and all conscious humans have the necessary wherewithal to accomplish that. You also must understand that there is only one race of conscious beings, we come in all sizes shapes and colors&#8230;unfortunately, so does the other race on this planet&#8230;parasitical humanoids [scientific nomenclature]- with a lack of value creation and a lack of conscience, making them less than human in our sense. Incidentally, the latter has ruled over us for the past 8000 years&#8230;Ruled by&#8221;The dumbest among us&#8221;.<br />
 Is that whom you choose to sleep with???</p>
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		<title>By: T-Rex</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[T-Rex]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Dec 2013 20:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Credit is a wonderful thing until you can&#039;t make the minimum payment anymore. But, I guess that&#039;s not much of a concern when you the one getting the goodies and not the one paying the bills.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Credit is a wonderful thing until you can&#8217;t make the minimum payment anymore. But, I guess that&#8217;s not much of a concern when you the one getting the goodies and not the one paying the bills.</p>
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		<title>By: John E Coleman</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/arnold-ahlert/governments-war-on-poverty-reduction/comment-page-1/#comment-5326231</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John E Coleman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Dec 2013 19:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I find your assertion of poor education less than poor ethics !
You have shown it by your self centered egotistical reply to 
Mr Carltjohnson !, this true ambition must be that of a democrat !]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find your assertion of poor education less than poor ethics !<br />
You have shown it by your self centered egotistical reply to<br />
Mr Carltjohnson !, this true ambition must be that of a democrat !</p>
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		<title>By: NAHALKIDES</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NAHALKIDES]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Dec 2013 19:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ahlert ably covered a lot of ground here.  I would only add that these anti-poverty programs would still be wrong even if they somehow &quot;worked&quot; - no one has the right to steal from one man and give to another, even if by doing so that second man is no longer &quot;poor&quot; by whatever measurement is being used.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahlert ably covered a lot of ground here.  I would only add that these anti-poverty programs would still be wrong even if they somehow &#8220;worked&#8221; &#8211; no one has the right to steal from one man and give to another, even if by doing so that second man is no longer &#8220;poor&#8221; by whatever measurement is being used.</p>
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		<title>By: NAHALKIDES</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NAHALKIDES]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Dec 2013 19:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Quite so - moreover, it is &lt;i&gt;wrong&lt;/i&gt; to redistribute incomes, and it still would be even if anti-poverty programs &quot;worked&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quite so &#8211; moreover, it is <i>wrong</i> to redistribute incomes, and it still would be even if anti-poverty programs &#8220;worked&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: G force</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[G force]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Dec 2013 18:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Too coy and pat a response.


The challenge is to call out bad statistical analysis as it is presented for public consumption. That takes more intelligence and effort than simply reiterating bromides, however true they might be. If every dissenter mastered just ONE area in which inaccurate statistics are presented, and represented that fact-based critical perspective in personal, civic, and online interactions, we&#039;d quickly build a body of reason, rather than rhetoric.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too coy and pat a response.</p>
<p>The challenge is to call out bad statistical analysis as it is presented for public consumption. That takes more intelligence and effort than simply reiterating bromides, however true they might be. If every dissenter mastered just ONE area in which inaccurate statistics are presented, and represented that fact-based critical perspective in personal, civic, and online interactions, we&#8217;d quickly build a body of reason, rather than rhetoric.</p>
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		<title>By: G force</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[G force]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Dec 2013 18:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not sure what &quot;absered&quot; means, but your larger assertion is absolutely inaccurate. 

Intelligence is a largely genetically determined capacity. The potential for knowledge is not only heritable, it is not equally distributed, and it is correlated with race.

Go to HBD Chick&#039;s blog, or that of Dr. James Thompson. Educate yourself. And learn to spell and punctuate.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure what &#8220;absered&#8221; means, but your larger assertion is absolutely inaccurate. </p>
<p>Intelligence is a largely genetically determined capacity. The potential for knowledge is not only heritable, it is not equally distributed, and it is correlated with race.</p>
<p>Go to HBD Chick&#8217;s blog, or that of Dr. James Thompson. Educate yourself. And learn to spell and punctuate.</p>
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		<title>By: polygraph</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[polygraph]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Dec 2013 18:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The reason for the change is obvious: once poverty is relative, it becomes impossible to eliminate–
Someone has a jittery grasp of the obvious.  Poverty is by it&#039;s very nature relative.  Is not the 10th billionaire on the top ten money makers the poorest of the lot?  Even the Lord Jesus himself said, &quot; The poor you will always have with you.&quot;  So, many decades of the so-called War on Poverty has done little to eliminate poverty.  It never can. It has made tax payers poorer and redistributed their &quot;wealth&quot; to those unable to some degree to work, but unfortunately those unwilling to work have cashed in in the meantime.  
Let&#039;s put the Robin Hood mentality of taking earned tax revenue and essentially giving it to those less fortunate whether or not they deserve it, to an overdue rest. The poor will never go away and no government program will ever take the place of genuine charity from its citizens, nor should it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason for the change is obvious: once poverty is relative, it becomes impossible to eliminate–<br />
Someone has a jittery grasp of the obvious.  Poverty is by it&#8217;s very nature relative.  Is not the 10th billionaire on the top ten money makers the poorest of the lot?  Even the Lord Jesus himself said, &#8221; The poor you will always have with you.&#8221;  So, many decades of the so-called War on Poverty has done little to eliminate poverty.  It never can. It has made tax payers poorer and redistributed their &#8220;wealth&#8221; to those unable to some degree to work, but unfortunately those unwilling to work have cashed in in the meantime.<br />
Let&#8217;s put the Robin Hood mentality of taking earned tax revenue and essentially giving it to those less fortunate whether or not they deserve it, to an overdue rest. The poor will never go away and no government program will ever take the place of genuine charity from its citizens, nor should it.</p>
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		<title>By: Headed4TheHills</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Headed4TheHills]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Dec 2013 18:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[90% of all statistics are wrong 75% of the time]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>90% of all statistics are wrong 75% of the time</p>
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		<title>By: Headed4TheHills</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/arnold-ahlert/governments-war-on-poverty-reduction/comment-page-1/#comment-5326195</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Headed4TheHills]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Dec 2013 18:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Now, John, there is a difference between stupid and willfully ignorant.
Forrest Gump was stupid. Liberals are willfully ignorant. Forrest proved that stupid can and does get better through education.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now, John, there is a difference between stupid and willfully ignorant.<br />
Forrest Gump was stupid. Liberals are willfully ignorant. Forrest proved that stupid can and does get better through education.</p>
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		<title>By: carltjohnson</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/arnold-ahlert/governments-war-on-poverty-reduction/comment-page-1/#comment-5326193</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[carltjohnson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Dec 2013 18:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;“If it’s test scores among school kids, you need to disaggregate by race and ethnic background,” he writes.&quot;...WRONG! in so many ways, he is assuming that your &quot;race&quot; [which is a false idea] or ethnicity,determines your intelligence...that is ABSERED!  All conscious beings have the same &quot;potential&quot;  for knowledge; it is our individual essence, our individual propensity that differs from each other.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;“If it’s test scores among school kids, you need to disaggregate by race and ethnic background,” he writes.&#8221;&#8230;WRONG! in so many ways, he is assuming that your &#8220;race&#8221; [which is a false idea] or ethnicity,determines your intelligence&#8230;that is ABSERED!  All conscious beings have the same &#8220;potential&#8221;  for knowledge; it is our individual essence, our individual propensity that differs from each other.</p>
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		<title>By: T-Rex</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[T-Rex]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Dec 2013 16:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is one more tactic put forth by the Great Divider.  Some call him a fool and an idiot but he&#039;s more of an opportunist. His prog/fascist agenda relies on the failure of the individual in favor of the success of the collective. Reigning in the free spirit of the persons exercising their Constitutional right to pursue life, liberty and happiness is far more difficult than corralling two or three generations of government dependents and the ill-informed, bleeding hearts that seek to save them from themselves. This Cloward/Piven/Alinsky  game plan is obscured by its appeal to &quot;equality&quot; and &quot;fairness&quot;. What never occurs to those dependent on cradle to grave entitlements and the guilt-ridden who promote their collective method of financing is at some point there is no one left to pay. The use of &quot;debt&quot;, promoted and led by our fed gov, has become so ingrained far too many people have lost touch with the true value of our currency. Why worry when the &quot;remaining balance&quot; on your personal credit card is still in the black and the gov can up it&#039;s &quot;available credit&quot; any time it wishes? It&#039;s not a problem until you get to where you are scrambling to even make the &quot;minimum payment&quot;. To the low info voter that is the new &quot;American Dream&quot;.



This is no accident. The working middle class will continue to pay the freight in taxes and in interest until working for a living is no longer worth the time and effort. That is when the prog/fascists will attempt the coup de grace that strips the citizens of their rights to do anything but service the government. The new standard of living will be whatever the government says it will be and you will have no voice in the matter.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is one more tactic put forth by the Great Divider.  Some call him a fool and an idiot but he&#8217;s more of an opportunist. His prog/fascist agenda relies on the failure of the individual in favor of the success of the collective. Reigning in the free spirit of the persons exercising their Constitutional right to pursue life, liberty and happiness is far more difficult than corralling two or three generations of government dependents and the ill-informed, bleeding hearts that seek to save them from themselves. This Cloward/Piven/Alinsky  game plan is obscured by its appeal to &#8220;equality&#8221; and &#8220;fairness&#8221;. What never occurs to those dependent on cradle to grave entitlements and the guilt-ridden who promote their collective method of financing is at some point there is no one left to pay. The use of &#8220;debt&#8221;, promoted and led by our fed gov, has become so ingrained far too many people have lost touch with the true value of our currency. Why worry when the &#8220;remaining balance&#8221; on your personal credit card is still in the black and the gov can up it&#8217;s &#8220;available credit&#8221; any time it wishes? It&#8217;s not a problem until you get to where you are scrambling to even make the &#8220;minimum payment&#8221;. To the low info voter that is the new &#8220;American Dream&#8221;.</p>
<p>This is no accident. The working middle class will continue to pay the freight in taxes and in interest until working for a living is no longer worth the time and effort. That is when the prog/fascists will attempt the coup de grace that strips the citizens of their rights to do anything but service the government. The new standard of living will be whatever the government says it will be and you will have no voice in the matter.</p>
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		<title>By: John E Coleman</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/arnold-ahlert/governments-war-on-poverty-reduction/comment-page-1/#comment-5326140</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John E Coleman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Dec 2013 16:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[having tried for many long days , I can say without doubt , 
I can&#039;t teach anyone that is Stupid !!


As is the case with all Democrats whot voted for King Obama !]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>having tried for many long days , I can say without doubt ,<br />
I can&#8217;t teach anyone that is Stupid !!</p>
<p>As is the case with all Democrats whot voted for King Obama !</p>
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		<title>By: kilfincelt</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kilfincelt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Dec 2013 16:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The author of this article has learned one major truth. Statistics are much like computers--garbage in, garbage out. In other words bad data leads to bad statistics.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The author of this article has learned one major truth. Statistics are much like computers&#8211;garbage in, garbage out. In other words bad data leads to bad statistics.</p>
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		<title>By: John Davidson</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Davidson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Dec 2013 15:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good point. I am always leery of programs with nice sounding terms.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point. I am always leery of programs with nice sounding terms.</p>
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