IRS Scandal: One Step Removed From the White House

14obama-videoLargeLast week, while much of the nation’s attention was turned toward the Zimmerman verdict and the antics of the racial grievance industry, the IRS scandal got far more intense. According to top IRS lawyer Carter Hull, the Chief Counsel’s office of the IRS, headed by Obama appointee William Wilkins, was instrumental in the agency’s campaign of harassment and discrimination against conservative and certain pro-Israel groups. In interviews, Hull informed congressional investigators that his superiors told him that Wilkins’ office would need to be involved in additional reviews of previously screened applications because of “potential political activity.” Thus, the Democrat-led effort to keep this scandal confined to a few “rogue” agents in Cincinnati has gone down in flames.

Wilkins, appointed by Obama in 2009, is one of only two political appointees in the entire agency made by the president.  In the Inspector General’s (IG) report on the scandal, the timeline of events established that Wilkins knew about the abuse of conservative groups at least as early as August 4, 2011. Yet in a press conference held on May 15, 2013, White House Press Secretary Jay Carney was asked if Wilkins had shared that information with the White House. Carney said he didn’t know, and when pressed about whether the president should have been informed, he said that Obama first learned about the scandal “through media reports” on Friday, May 10. In other words, Americans are expected to believe that Wilkins never said a word to the president about this dubious targeting of right-wing groups for the 21 months (or more) that he was aware of it.

That may very well be true. But like so many scandals plaguing this administration, the ongoing evolution of this story makes such a scenario hard to swallow. That evolution began with top IRS official Lois Lerner’s staged “inadvertent” confession to the crime at a tax conference hosted by the American Bar Association. In subsequent congressional hearings, both Lerner and former IRS acting commissioner Steven Miller attempted to confine the scandal to “rogue agents” in Cincinnati.

That story disintegrated when House investigators talked to those agents, who said they were directed by Washington. Elizabeth Hofacre, who processed the Cincinnati unit’s Tea Party applications, testified that she felt her work was “micromanaged” by Washington, D.C. “My frustration was primarily that I had to sit on them and wait for guidance from D.C.,” Hofacre told members of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform. She further noted she was “deeply offended” by the attempt made by senior officials to blame the scandal on her office. “Personally, I felt like it was a nuclear strike. I felt they were blaming us,” she said.

Hofacre then moved the story up the bureaucratic pecking order, saying her supervisors told her to contact Carter Hull.

In his appearance before the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee last Thursday, Hull, a 48-year IRS veteran who is retiring, said he “was assigned by my supervisor to work on two applications of tea party groups. In that same month, I became aware that a group of tea party applications were being held by EO (Exempt Organizations) determinations in Cincinnati.” Hull continued:

It was my understanding that the applications assigned to me would be ‘test cases’ to provide guidance for those other applications. I was also told by my supervisor that I was to coordinate the review of the tea party applications that were assigned to Elizabeth Hofacre in Cincinnati

He further noted that his micromanaging of Hofacre’s work was not of his own doing. He too was given orders from higher ups, who told him to forward documents to Lois Lerner’s advisor. Subsequently, he was told to send them to the Office of Chief Counsel for review.

Hull also cited an August 2011 meeting where he was told by a member of the Office that the Tea Party applicants he was dealing with would have to supply the IRS with additional information, and that a second letter should be sent to those organizations making that request. Hull noted that after he received the second responses, he felt he could make a determination about whether applications should be confirmed or denied. His recommendations were apparently ignored.

Michael Seto, head of Hull’s IRS unit, told investigators that Lerner made the “unusual” decision to subject Tea Party applications to a multi-layered review.

Hull testified that no one specifically told him to hold up tea party applications, but contended that a multi-layer review of such applications was “unusual.” He also confirmed that in another meeting with the Office, he was informed the applications were no longer under his control, and would again be forwarded for “further review.” Hull characterized that move as “rare.”

Yet the most damning part of Hull’s testimony was about a directive from Lois Lerner’s senior advisor, whose name was withheld in the partially released transcript of the hearings. Hull said the advisor told him the applications would require further review and that “it should go to the chief counsel.”

When Hull was asked if he meant the IRS chief counsel, he answered in the affirmative. “The IRS Chief Counsel,” he replied.

That bombshell testimony fired up Jay Sekulow, Chief Counsel of the American Center for Law and Justice. They represent more than 40 Tea Party plaintiffs suing the IRS.

“This is one of the most extremely disturbing revelations yet,” he said. “It is now clear that the IRS Chief Counsel, appointed by President Obama in 2009, was involved in examining and reviewing applications from Tea Party groups – many that were basically shut out of the 2010 election process because of delays in handling of their applications. This development raises significant questions about what the White House knew and when.”

That particular aspect of the case took an intriguing turn yesterday, when it was revealed that Wilkins met with Obama in the Roosevelt Room of the White House on April 23, 2012. On April 24, Wilkins’ boss, former commissioner Douglas Shulman, saw the president at the White House.

On April 25, Wilkins sent the EO determinations unit “additional comments on the draft guidance” for approving or denying the tax-exempt applications submitted by Tea Party organizations, according to the IG’s report.

It should be further noted that William Wilkins, a staunch Obama supporter, once worked as a lobbyist for WilmerHale, where he spent his time “counseling nonprofit organizations, business entities, and investment funds on tax compliance, business transactions, and government investigations.” In 2008, he led the defense of Chicago Reverend Jeremiah Wright’s United Church of Christ, which was being investigated by the IRS for violating its own tax-exempt status, due to its political involvement with Obama. “We were so interested in the case we offered to do it pro bono,” Mr. Wilkins told The American Lawyer at the time.

Unsurprisingly, Democrats tried once again Thursday to make the argument that liberal groups were equally scrutinized by the IRS, claiming that Inspector General J. Russell George was suppressing details about non-Tea Party groups being targeted. George defused that notion, reminding Democrats that the IRS itself both acknowledged and apologized for the targeting of conservative groups before his report was released. He noted that since his report was released, information regarding BOLO (Be On the Look Out) lists with liberal buzz words attached to them have surfaced, but he did not get them until last week. He blamed the delay on the IRS. As of now nothing has emerged, but George assured Committee members the IG investigation would continue.

What is the likelihood that liberal groups received equal scrutiny? Townhall’s Guy Benson makes a solid point in that regard. “If, as Democrats suggest, the targeting impacted both sides and this is all a big non-scandal, where is the ‘progressive-assigned’ version of Elizabeth Hofacre?” he asks. “That is to say, where is the IRS employee tasked with screening dozens of targeted liberal organizations whose superiors wouldn’t permit any resolutions for months (and ultimately years) on end?  If such an employee exists, don’t you think we’d have heard about him or her by now?”

Perhaps more remarkable is the reality that most Americans haven’t heard anything about Hull’s stunning revelation, or much about any of the other testimony in this case. Not a single report about Hull’s revelation was broadcast by ABC, CBS, or NBC. Furthermore, the networks’ initially strong interest in the scandal has steadily declined. That decline has continued, even in the face of four damning revelations in the last month alone, every one of which indicate an agency that is corrupt and out of control. These include the IRS’s attempt to dole out $70 million in bonuses to IRS employees during the sequester; their fraudulent awarding of a multi-million dollar contract to an IT company whose owner has a “longstanding relationship” with IRS deputy director Gregory Roseman; rampant abuse of IRS-issued credit cards by agency employees; and the improper scrutiny by government officials of confidential tax records of several political candidates and campaign donors — improper scrutiny the Obama Justice Department refuses to prosecute.

Hull’s testimony has taken this scandal to another level. Despite every attempt by the usual suspects in the Democratic Party, along with their media enablers, to kill this story, Hull has pushed it to the highest levels within the IRS — and one step removed from the White House itself. At this rate, it is only a matter of time before the scandal goes even higher.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Griddle-Jim/100001919446065 Griddle Jim

    The truth is coming.

  • laserron

    All we hear from the left is “no scandal, stop wasting the peoples time with this nonsense. Left wind Equine Scatology. How can we find out the truth if we do not seek the truth?

    The left is turning into a tyrannical institution!

    • glpage

      Turning??? I kinda thought they were already there.

  • Brian Derrick

    This is not journalism – it’s pure, unadulterated crap.

    • asa2222

      thanks for that well-argued rebuttal

      • Brian Derrick

        OK Asa, lets start from the beginning. “…the Democrat-led effort to keep this scandal confined to a few “rogue” agents in Cincinnati has gone down in flames.” Who championed this claim? Which Democrat? Cummings? No. Obama? No. Oh, I know… Jay Carney said it! Did he? No. Carney said: “IRS line personnel inaccurately targeted conservative groups,” a statement that, by the way, remains true to this day (although it seems to still upset Eric “I’m a Bitch” Chaffitz). No one in Obama’s administration championed the view that “rogue” agents acted on their own… that was the take by neo-cons… specifically, Fox News and Sean Hannity paraphrasing words used by Lerner and an IRS head. So how could this “Democrat attempt at confining the scandal” go “down in flames” when it was never an attempt to begin with? Rather, it was an attempt at FoxCon to pigeonhole a claim never said by any democrat leader. Ever.

        Then there’s this: “In other words, Americans are expected
        to believe that Wilkins never said a word to the president about this dubious targeting of right-wing groups for the 21 months (or more) that he was aware of it.” So imagine this: “Barry? Hi, it’s Wilkerson from the IRS. Say, I wanted to mention that I’ve been targeting conservative groups, but we’ve never really discussed it. Oh, by the way, I left my towel on the hamper… “ “Sure…” the
        Front page author relents “…this very well MAY be true.” But then, why assume nothing untoward has happened when you can use suspicion, innuendo, and made-up ‘facts’ to push a Faux
        scandal? That way, you can accuse the president and the White House of using the IRS to target Tea Party groups for partisan
        political purposes — without any evidence to support your claims! Next.

        “Hull testified that no one specifically told him to hold up tea party applications.” Oh. frowny face. : ( (That would signify “No Scandal” to most with a neocortex and a short-term
        memory longer than that of a goldfish; but no, YOU still believe). Wait… he did say “… a multi-layer review of such applications was unusual.”? Uh oh! “… he was informed the applications were no longer under his control, and would again be forwarded for “further review.” Hull characterized that move as “rare.” Gee,
        given the new requirements of the 501Cs, don’t you think such a “rare” move might not be so “rare” given this was the first time EVER such 501C applications had ever been vetted? But still… that’s STILL suspicious, huh? Wait again… it didn’t come from On High? Doesn’t it seem these “targeted” applications made UP the chain of command, NOT down? Not much of a scandal here.

        And finally, an Obama appointee! Well, we have another
        BOMBSHELL!! “It was sent to the Chief Counsel’s office!! An Obama appointee!!!” Well, you know, Mr. Wilkerson has a GIANT
        office, and on the door it says: “THE Chief Counsel of the IRS”, and he sits there and waits until some insignificant fact comes his way, and then, boy, is he ON IT! Until this scandal broke, he was just sitting there, posting on his Facebook account.

        Fun facts, Did you know the Chief council of the IRS and its offices have over 1,600 attorneys working on behalf of the IRS, and it includes 3 deputy directors who oversee thousands of employees? This little piece of stupidity is up there with “Hillary knew about the requests for Benghazi! securityi!! She signed the telegram!” a sure sign of stupiditythat can only come from watching many many hours of Faux News. Moron.
        Then this: “When Hull was asked if he meant the IRS chief counsel, he answered in the affirmative. “The IRS Chief Counsel,” he replied. That bombshell testimony fired up Jay Sekulow, Chief Counsel of the American Center for Law and Justice.” I’m hearing the word BOMBSHELL a lot these days… especially by Fox News, Darrell “Grand Theft Auto” Issa, and… um, well that’s it. (you DID noticed that NOT ONE of the other major news carriers reported this story, right? They won’t touch this smelly turd with a 10 foot pole). On the other hand, you, Fox, and its viewers, will roll in it…

        Next.

    • EarlyBird

      You’re exactly right, Derrick. This is more vicious slander, red meat and marching orders for the hysterical, hateful right wing. Welcome to David Horowitz’ hate site.

      There had never been ANY evidence linking Obama or anyone close to him to this scandal.

      But most importantly, what the country rightfully thought was a scandal never was one! It has since been revealed that the IRS was focusing on all PACs, not just conservative ones.

      And did you happen to catch Ahlert’s characterization of the conservative PACs as being “pro-Israel” as if that was their main focus, when by virtue of being conservative they may have only been incidentally so? This is NOTHING but distortion and deceit. But Ahlert, that little punk, knows his job here is to whip up the rage of right wing Greater Israel fanatics.

      • Brian Derrick

        Excellent call… I’m reading your posts now…

        Oh dear f***ing god, David Horowitz is behind this!?! That is hilarious!! how perfect!

        as for Prog Destroyer, it’s below me to comment. Does he not notice NO ONE pays attention to, or comments on, his posts?

        Loser.

        • EarlyBird

          Yes, this is David Horowitz’s site. When the man was on the far left he was a propagandist. Now that he “saw the light” he became a far right winger, and is a propagandist. You’ll notice he always has to be an absolute fanatic in his political stances. He’s a poisonous character.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            “You’ll notice he always has to be an absolute fanatic in his political stances.”

            You criticizing Horowitz like that is hilarious. Talk down from your perch all you want. You still get respect from nobody.

          • EarlyBird

            Oh, it is VERY easy to “talk down” to the screw ups, radicals, reactionaries, fascists, anti-Americans, terrified bigots and hate-filled lunatics that populate this board, that’s for effing sure, Professor.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            Anyone can talk down to anyone else in America, but in the end you’re the one that gets laughed at constantly.

            I guess you’re extremely envious of a lot of people. And you want to take the left way out.

            Most of the time it’s funny. Other times it gives me a headache. Aspirin is cheap though, so carry on.

          • EarlyBird

            You’ve obviously got a chip on your shoulder. Get help.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            Yes, or course.

            Did you get your hormone levels checked?

      • ProgDestroyer

        Hey Tweety didn’t I tell you to STFU and take your meds? And take your sister with you since she is suppose to be packing for a trip.

        • EarlyBird

          The average lobotimized red neck on this site makes you look like a genius. I don’t have time to slap you around. Shoo!

          • ProgDestroyer

            Tell the truth you really are projecting aren’t you? If you have time to reply surely you can take some time to “slap” me around.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            A “slap” from you is roughly equivalent to flattery from someone that is well-informed.

      • Moto

        ” It has since been revealed that the IRS was focusing on all PACs, not just conservative ones.”

        Yeah, it was revealed like it was revealed that Trayvon was just an innocent 8-year-old walking home with skittles when he was gunned down by a racist madman. In other words, we are supposed to believe this, BECAUSE YOU SAY SO in contravention of the facts.

        Sorry, won’t work. This will be tied to your fuhrer and he will pay. And then you will pay, because if the Republicans won’t do anything about this then the people will. HALF of this country is against you. The ones who are on your side are too cowardly to fight for you. The ones on our side are only waiting for the signal to fight against you.

        You’d better toe the line. You’d better cross all your t’s and dot all your i’s. If you run your mouth too much, you may find that your neighbors remember what you’ve said. When the time comes, you will pay, and that time is coming soon.

        First we will hang your dictator for treason,then we will hang you for treason.

        • EarlyBird

          Wow. You mouth breathers just can’t WAIT for your bloody civil war, can you? Well, real Americans like me are very well armed, so be careful what you wish for, Bubba.

          “In other words, we are supposed to believe this, BECAUSE YOU SAY SO in contravention of the facts.”

          No, these investigations, as opposed to the fascist propaganda you inhale, say so:

          http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/24/

          http://www.usatoday.com/story/

          http://www.washingtonpost.com/

          http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2013/06/irs-targeted-liberal-groups-for-scrutiny-too.html

          http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/06/proof-the-irs-didnt-target-just-conservatives/276536/

          http://www.politico.com/story/2013/07/irs-scrutinized-liberal-groups-94556.html

          http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57594398/liberal-groups-may-have-been-targeted-by-irs-as-well/
          Not that this new data will do anything to get you to re-think your position, because you haven’t come to your position by thinking in the first place. These contravening facts and evidence will just make you angrier, like a chimp trying to work a Rubik’s cube.

          • Moto

            ” Well, real Americans like me are very well armed, so be careful what you wish for, Bubba.”

            You’re NOT an American. The Founding Fathers wouldn’t p155 on you to put out a fire. They knew democracy was suicide and would destroy everything they had fought to create.That is why they put the limits on it that your group have removed or are removing.

            I don’t have to be careful what I wish for. Live or die,I will bring honor to my forefathers who fought to liberate this country from the British in the first place because I fight for what I believe in, while you cower behind a sympathetic administration for the things you believe in. I’d rather die serving justice to progressive traitors who are flushing this country and my ancestors’ sacrifice down the toilet.

            We haven’t had an uptick in employment in almost a decade now. Obviously, you don’t WANT this country to prosper because you keep circling the wagons around the source of its FAILURE.

            Well, I DO want this country to prosper, and if I have to risk being shot to PROVE it then SO BE IT! As far as I am concerned,dying in the process of stopping you from destroying my forefathers’ legacy would bring the only kind of glory or meaning to my life that would mean anything to ME. Nothing else that I could do would equal it in my own estimation.

            If you “real American” TRAITORS want to push others around and destroy city after city with your INSANE policies, then come and try it you bloodthirsty b4st4rds.

            Your GREED,and YOUR lust for power is what is pushing this country towards civil war, and if you don’t stop it, your women will mourn your imbecilic campaign of terror for generations to come.

            YOU are NOT OUR MASTERS. YOU are not better than us, you are INFERIOR to us. The fact that you are crazy enough to starve people to death and attack them when there is NOTHING for you to gain by doing it PROVES IT. It PROVES YOU ARE A BLOODTHIRSTY PSYCHOPATH.

            We do not want to be YOUR masters, you are worthless to us. All we want is for you to leave us alone.

            If we must put down your idiotic communist putsch to get that, then so be it.

            Come and get some, big boy. You are the most deluded retard I have ever seen. You think the information you get from the government and its spokesmen is trustworthy and the information you get from those with no political power or office is suspect.
            That’s like trusting the snake with the keys to the henhouse or asking the cat what happened to the canary.

            It will be my pleasure to put you in the grave in defense of my life, my God, and my country.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            Nice spin control.

            There are lawsuits pending and just like happened with Zimmerman, eventually enough of the facts will be vetted and become public and lunatics like you will still be unfazed.

          • EarlyBird

            I bury you in objective facts, and because they don’t feed your paranoid fever, Mr. “ObjectiveFactsMatter” calls it “spin.”

            What a bizzare little man you are.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            URLs that in some cases did nothing for your case, and in other cases merely published the defense’s claims.

            Obviously it’s controversial. We know that they didn’t confess, yet. So they need to get their message out there.

            You calling them objective facts is hilarious. But it’s what we expect from you as the resident retread dipshirt.

      • objectivefactsmatter

        “There had never been ANY evidence linking Obama or anyone close to him to this scandal.”

        It’s like you can’t read. You’re commenting on an article that cites it’s sources. These sources directly contradict your comment.

        No problem for you and other unhinged leftist lunatics.

        “that little punk”

        Ah. You don’t read what “little punks” write. And 0′Bama tells you who the “little punks” are.

        We noticed this pattern a long time ago.

  • dndgaddy

    America has a corrupted media… that gives this administration cover… it is simply the truth!!!

  • Chez

    Deliberate obfuscations (“rogue Cincinnati office”, “liberals targeted too”) and continued stonewalling….that’s how this Administration will handle the problem. And a complicit media will continue to look the other way.

  • http://www.clarespark.com/ Clare Spark

    Normally, I try to keep an open mind about the Obama administration, but upon researching the output of the late communist historian Eric Hobsbawm, I found alarming similarities between this diehard Leninist and the current regime. See http://clarespark.com/2012/12/08/hobsbawm-obama-israel/. “Hobsbawm, Obama, Israel.”

  • Gee

    The media is more obsessed with the birth of a British brat than criminal actions by the US administration

  • Christopher Riddle

    The”Canaries”are starting to SING!!!!

  • WW4

    “It is now clear that the IRS Chief Counsel, appointed by President
    Obama in 2009, was involved in examining and reviewing applications from
    Tea Party groups – many that were basically shut out of the 2010
    election process because of delays in handling of their applications.”

    Yeah. Literally thousands of knuckleheads–er, “concerned citizens”–started hundreds of “Tea Party” groups as a reaction to Obama’s election, flooding the IRS with requests for tax-exempt status as, ahem, “social welfare groups.”

    The IRS low level drones, inundated with this sudden rush of knucklehead requests, says “Where do we start with all this? Let’s flag the obvious doofuses with “tea” and “patriot,” since those are the most blatantly political groups. Then their immediate higher ups said “No, you can’t do that; try something more subtle.” And so on up the line. Blaming Obama for this is like blaming Rupert Murdoch every time Fox News lies on the air.

    Good luck with this non-scandal! Hey, what about Benghazi? When’s that one gonna blow wide open? Can’t wait!

    • American1969

      So why is the Administration continually dancing and avoiding answering questions like they do about everything else?

      • objectivefactsmatter

        Because of George Bush leaving such a mess. And racism. Just look what happened to Trayvon.

        What more proof do you need that 0′Bama is the messiah?

        Oh yeah, they’re also the most transparent administration ever. Just ask them. They’ll tell you how transparent they are.

        What more can we ask for?

    • objectivefactsmatter

      That seems rational and ethical to you.

      “Hey, what about Benghazi? When’s that one gonna blow wide open?”

      For you it won’t. Denial is often forever.

      Anyone who doesn’t worship your messiah is a knucklehead. Sure.

    • Moto

      If there’s no problem with all of this then I assume you won’t mind if we do it to black and gay/lesbian political groups from now on?

      “Hey, what about Benghazi?”

      I can tell from your obvious ignorance on the subject that you watch MSNBC.I’ll explain it to you. Four Americans who were worth a lot more to this country than you are sacrificed their lives in the line of duty so that you can have the right to mock them for doing something you are too cowardly and stupid to do yourself. Your leader, who is cowardly and stupid himself, left them to die. His former running mate, an unpleasant ancient hag who somebody made Secretary of State as a practical joke, expressed her utmost sociopathic lack of empathy or remorse for their deaths as she used their corpses as props in a war on free speech.

      These people died because Obama had them arming jihadis, who will probably use those weapons to kill your family at some point in the future.

      Sleep tight, Obama and Hillary are watching over you. And know that when the jihadis blow up your house with a stinger missile, Hillary will be ready to calm and reassure your surviving loved ones with a flippant “What difference does it make?”.

      • Moto

        “His former running mate,I mean, ‘opponent’ “

      • WW4

        Spare me your phony sanctimony over the four lives lost. Lie to yourself about it; don’t bother to try to lie to me.

        Four people who were fully aware of the risks they were engaged in died, and while it is tragic, and provides you with soap opera fantasies about them being “props,” they were doing nothing for your and my right to free speech. Instead, they were doing business as usual for our government–covert operations meddling in another country’s affairs. Yes, they were arming people of questionable merit as our government has done so many times in the past–Reagan was one of the best of them at doing this, by the way. Your one-sided blind ignorance to this fact is simply breathtaking, and your wheeze about them killing my family at some point is the perfectly irrational histrionics I’ve come to expect of so many fools who call themselves “conservative.”

        Nearly four THOUSAND have lost their lives, by the way, but that’s just a statistic to you, when you can use the Benghazi four as a sanctimonious bludgeon.

        • Drakken

          Psst, hey Shortbus, your hero, Comrade Obummer is president and has more casualties than Bush, so feel less and do more facts ok.

        • objectivefactsmatter

          “Four people who were fully aware of the risks they were engaged in died, and while it is tragic, and provides you with soap opera fantasies about them being “props,” they weren’t really doing it for our right to free speech. Instead, they were doing business as usual for our government–covert operations meddling in another country’s affairs. Yes, they were arming people of questionable merit in the name of our national interest, as our government has done so many times in the past. Reagan was one of the best of them at doing this, by the way. Why is this different, now?”

          Reagan was a jihadi protecting jihadi interests around the world, up to the point of letting them attack us and preventing any response. Ah yes, I remember now. I think I saw that on SNL.

          Of course the world has changed since then and now it’s even more important to promote sharia around the world now that we’re all aware of its godly goodness.

          But see how that hothead 0′Bama pursues justice on our behalf? Why I bet the drones got all of those bass tards that attacked our embassies. Plus the tongue lashing at the UN. The message is clear now. Mr. Morsi and others are so scared. The Libyans are terrified, our interests are protected, all because of Mr. Chamberlain’s communist jihadi reincarnation in our Whitehouse.

          Oh boy, stand up for liberty Mr. Bummer! You’re our hero. Our long-awaited messiah!

          “Nearly four THOUSAND of our best have lost their lives, by the way, thanks to largely ill-conceived foreign policy, but that’s just a statistic to you, while you can use the Benghazi four as a sanctimonious bludgeon.”

          People died in the past so don’t complain when they die in the future. Winning elections is a lot more important than standing up for the interests of the nation since I’m so important, the nation can’t survive without me. Therefore any minor inconvenience along the way should merely be considered trivial bumps in the road.

  • Brian Derrick

    OK lets start from the beginning. “…the Democrat-led effort to keep this scandal confined to a few “rogue” agents in Cincinnati has gone down in flames.” Who championed this? Which Democrat? Cummings? No. Obama? No. Oh, I know… Jay Carney said it! Did he? No. Carney said: “IRS line personnel
    inaccurately targeted conservative groups,” a statement that, by the way, remains true to this day (although it seems to still upset Eric “I’m a Bitch” Chaffitz). No one in Obama’s administration championed the view that “rogue” agents acted on their own… that was the take by neo-cons… specifically, Fox News and Sean Hannity paraphrasing words used by Lerner and an IRS head. So how could this “Democrat attempt at confining the scandal” go “down in flames” when it was never an attempt to begin with? Rather, it was an attempt at FoxCon to pigeonhole
    a claim never said by any democrat leader. Ever.

    Then there’s this: “In other words, Americans are expected
    to believe that Wilkins never said a word to the president about this dubious targeting of right-wing groups for the 21 months (or more) that he was aware of it.” So imagine this: “Barry? Hi, it’s Wilkerson from the IRS. Say, I wanted to mention that I’ve been targeting conservative groups, but we’ve never really discussed it. Oh, by the way, I left my towel on the hamper… “ “Sure…” the
    Front page author relents “…this very well MAY be true.” But then why assume nothing untoward has happened
    when you can use suspicion, innuendo, and made-up ‘facts’ to push a Faux scandal? That way, you can accuse the president and the White House of using the IRS to target Tea Party groups for partisan political purposes — without any evidence to support your claims! Next.

    “Hull testified that no one specifically told him to hold up tea party applications.” Oh. frowny face. : ( That would signify “No Scandal” to most with a neocortex and a short-term memory longer than that of a goldfish; but no, YOU still believe. Wait… he did say “… a multi-layer review of such applications was unusual” ? Uh oh! “… he was informed the applications were no longer under his control, and would again be forwarded for “further review.” Hull characterized that move as “rare.” Gee, given the new requirements of the 501Cs, don’t you think such a “rare” move might not be so “rare”, given this was the first time EVER such applications had been vetted? But still… that’s STILL suspicious, huh? Wait again… it didn’t come from On High? Doesn’t it seem these applications made UP the chain of command, NOT down? Not much of a scandal here,

    And finally, an Obama appointee! Well, we have another BOMBSHELL!! “It was sent to the Chief Counsel’s office!! An Obama appointee!!!” Well, you know, Mr. Wilkerson has a GIANT office, and on the door it says: “THE Chief Counsel of the IRS”, and he sits there and waits until some insignificant fact comes his way, and then, boy, is he ON IT! Until this scandal broke, he was just sitting there, posting on his Facebook account. Fun facts, Did you know the Chief council of the IRS and its offices have over 1,600 attorneys working on behalf of the IRS, and it includes 3 deputy directors who oversee thousands of employees? This little piece of stupidity is up there with “Hillary knew about the requests for Benghazi!! She signed the telegram!” a sign of stupidity that can only come from watching many many hours of Faux News.

    ” …When Hull was asked if he meant the IRS chief counsel, he answered in the affirmative. “The IRS Chief Counsel,” he replied. That bombshell testimony fired up Jay Sekulow, Chief Counsel of the American Center for Law and Justice.”
    I’m hearing the word BOMBSHELL a lot these days… especially by Fox, Darrell “Grand Theft Auto” Issa, and… um, well that’s it (you DID noticed that NOT ONE of the other major news carriers reported this story, right? They won’t touch this smelly turd with a 10 foot pole). On the other hand, both You, Fox, and its viewers, will roll in it…

    • David Bulinski

      If you think this is all BS, and this isnt real “journalism” then why are you reading it? Where did you pick up on this “supposed” story? Why are you even bothering to comment on such a “smelly turd”? Only turd I smell here is you.

      • Brian Derrick

        It was listed on Google news. It’s such delusional BS I felt compelled to comment.

        • darkknight91

          The only delusional bs here is you, you government worshiping IRS apologist troll.

          • Guest

            Worshipping. Illiterate fool.

          • darkknight91

            Yes you are.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            “Worshipping. Illiterate fool.”

            You’re not too good at focusing on saliency. That’s the bombshell we learned about you.

            The crucial question is, are you even an American?

            http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/worship

            Worshiping with a single “p” seems to be an acceptable alternative. But whatever. Keep blowing smoke.

        • David Bulinski

          Ok, I will give you that. The problem that I see with any news media today is they all either align right or left. Unfortunately none of them just post the news facts as they are. They all have someone to spin it down for the intellectually deficient, and that always includes an opinion rather than just facts. The only reason I tend to believe that someone ordered the IRS to scrutinize conservative groups is that Lerner has pled the 5th, and wants immunity to testify. You have to ask why. If she did nothing wrong why invoke the right against self incrimination, and ask for immunity? Im sorry but everything about this administration stinks to high h*ll. I grew up in Chicago in a very politically active family, and have watched Obama from his very beginning in politics. Quite a few prominent Chicago politicians both Pub and Dem have said Obama is as crooked as they come, but he plays the politics game well. Im actually a moderate. Pro-choice, pro-gun, anti-corporate, and small government. It doesnt surprise me that Obama might have ordered this, but considering how he was able to stay clean and throw Blagojevich under the bus so easily I am surprised it has gotten this close to him.

          • ca1

            good commentary …. i’m surprised to see b derrick “liked” it…

          • WW4

            A reasonable man–good to see.

            With regard to Obama/Blagojevich: I semi-agree in that had Obama spent much more time in local gov’t he never would have gotten the nod to run. Not because there was necessarily any specific corruption on his part, but because the stink gets on you sooner or later. Rod was a machine scumbag from day one. Obama did not grow up into the machine like so many did, and I think that, among a few other chance factors, contributed to his “luck” in getting a serious chance to beat Hillary.

            That said: he WAS lucky. His personal inexperience is clear–though he has been remarkably effective in getting his agenda pushed and very canny not to feed red meat to a rabid opposition that was foaming at the mouth even before he took office.

            IRS–if you look at it from the perspective of someone in that job, targeting the TEA party when it exploded after Citizens United and Obama’s election made sense, just for the sheer volume of these groups, all making the claim to be apolitically “social welfare”-oriented. But you are never going to see this touch Obama, himself. Even at your most cynical–that would be stupid politics on HIS part. And he’s not a stupid politician.

            Benghazi–I’m waiting. I don’t see the evidence, and I don’t see the political will on behalf of the Republicans. I see only speculation pretending to be “evidence.” If I saw either evidence or will, I might think there’s something there other than a tragic event in a dangerous and unstable area in which we were running covert operations. The fact that the will isn’t there tells me people in the know are either satisfied with the official explanation, or unable to produce evidence.

          • David Bulinski

            Well as far as wether or not anything sticks to him will depend on anyone who might testify is credible enough. No politician will ever write or record any illegal orders. They will rely on their appointees to pass the information and hope that they will fall on their own sword for their boss rather than testify against them. However one can rationalize that an appointee is more than likely not just going to do something illegal unless there is something for them to gain. Perhaps a future appointment, or possibly support from their former boss in a future election? I dont really believe in coincidences in politics. The fact that Obama met with William Wilkins April 23, then “saw” Doug Shulman on April 24, then new orders on exempt status reviews for conservative organizations appear on April 25 is too much of a coincidence for me. Especially since Wilkins and Shulman were the only appointees to the IRS by Obama. I honestly think that congress is more than likely just letting Obama finish his term rather than having to deal with Biden who is obviously an idiot.

          • WW4

            It shouldn’t floor you either way since this is national politics and no one cops to anything, ever. I think there is a level of incompetence to a small degree both in his governance and his appointees–much like there was with Bush, but in a different way. However, Obama’s been pretty successful pursuing his agenda so he is canny in other ways. As to your theory about the political will, that’s not how politics works (despite partly agreeing about Biden’s social buffoonery). If congress had something on Obama, better believe they’d use it.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            “…all making the claim to be apolitically “social welfare”-oriented.”

            Now I get it. Groups have to believe in Marxist theories of “social welfare” to apply. That’s evidently how leftists understand it.

            Some people believe that low taxes are in the best interest of Americans collectively. Leftists consider small government to be evil, and “anti-social.”

            That’s what we call a bias, and that should not be tolerated from the government agencies that are paid to be among other things, impartial.

            “But you are never going to see this touch Obama, himself.”

            He’s not accountable for his appointees?

            “Even at your most cynical–that would be stupid politics on HIS part. And he’s not a stupid politician.”

            I don’t think anyone imagines sending him to jail based on direct “smoking gun” evidence like hand written instructions for the IRS.

            “Benghazi–I’m waiting. I don’t see the evidence…”

            Then you must not understand the accusations. There are remaining questions, but he failed to act. Who can deny that? How active was he specifically in blocking SOP responses? That we don’t know. Is that your best defense for him?

            “…and I don’t see the political will on behalf of the Republicans.”

            They evidently fear leftist voter backlash, which also explains why any of them would consider amnesty and other leftist internationalist programs.

            “The fact that the will isn’t there tells me people in the know are either satisfied with the official explanation, or unable to produce evidence.”

            It can’t be that Republicans feel scared of the DP opposition teaming up with leftist domination of the media.

          • WW4

            Known unknowns and unknown unknowns. right?

            Frankly no idea what Republicans are “afraid of,” they seem perfectly willing to repeatedly make sensational speculations over and over and over to occupy news cycles for a few weeks, only to let them peter out, again and again. Maybe their constituents care less about the way we covertly finesse hornets’ nests abroad, or the tax exempt status of the local hee-haw club, and more about how they’re going to afford college and a hip replacement.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            “The “social welfare” bit has to do with the language regarding qualification for the 501 c 4 status those local hee-haw groups were applying for. Nice try at a strawman though–you’re better than most.”

            It was a little sarcastic, but it seems like this false idea about what constitutes the social good does have an effect because there are people (apparently a lot of them work for the IRS) that equate lobbyists who advocate tax reform with being “anti-social” and it’s an argument I hear from people defending the IRS. It might not be the only argument, but it’s one of the most common defense arguments before they tried claiming that “liberal” groups got the same treatment.

            “Frankly no idea what Republicans are “afraid of,” they seem perfectly willing to repeatedly make sensational speculations over and over and over to occupy news cycles for a few weeks, only to let them peter out, again and again.”

            They’re afraid of the leftist cultural hegemony. There are a few that are not, but Reagan was the last POTUS that was unafraid of the leftists.

            “Maybe their constituents care less about the way we covertly finesse hornets’ nests abroad, or the tax exempt status of the local teabee club, and more about how they’re going to afford college and a hip replacement.”

            We could speculate forever, but I frankly don’t care much unless someone comes up with a more useful explanation. Right now, my general idea about leftist cultural hegemony seems to be the most useful paradigm to explain what’s happening.

            The fact that any Republican would be caught dead going even a little soft on illegal immigration is enough to convince a lot of people that we don’t even have a conservative opposition, by design. I think they (supposed conservatives) are just typical politicians giving in to the leftist cultural hegemony as opposed to worrying about some statist / globalist conspiracy to explain what we see.

    • nightspore

      Hannity had a very nice video a while back, showing a number of high-level Democrats such as Nancy Pelosi pushing the rogue agent argument, which is what I guess you’re referring to. I must say, you’re doing a pretty good job of obfuscating the actual story – but, as usual with such sophistry, it doesn’t add up. So what are you arguing actually, that there was no funny-business going on at the IRS? That Obama just felt they needed more legal advice, so he appointed Wilkins? That Sean Hannity (and other neo-cons) are somehow responsible for the House investigation?

      Anyway, I’m happy to see Pod People posting their inanities on this site. You’re just giving us more data.

    • American1969

      So why did high level IRS people meet at the White House in the Roosevelt Room with the Chief Counsel of the White House and Stephanie Cutter, who ran Obama’s campaign? Why would they all be meeting at the same time right before these things took place?

    • onecornpone

      Well that is quite a busy “argument” you have orchestrated – but if this was all business as usual, how can you explain the obviously liberal groups applications being fast-tracked, during the same time period?

      It stinks!

  • BJ

    The bottom Line is the IRS would have no trouble putting my ass in jail and taking everything I own if I did not pay my taxes, however when they (a government employee does something that’s against the law) they get a get out of jail card free. No one ever seems to be accountable for there illegal actions while working for the federal government. They only time you here of a federal employee going to jail is someone throw them under the bus to get something in return. We are living in an oppressive country that is just as corrupt as Iraq or Afghanistan.

  • CD

    Is that not what the IRS is supposed to do. They were all involved in Political activity they should not have been granted exemption. Bunch of losers you guys are. I say guys because no woman would ever want to be with any of you.

    • Brian Derrick

      I’m really hurt by that… although darkknight91 won’t mind as he is a homosexual.

      • objectivefactsmatter

        So, how old are you?

    • glpage

      You obviously haven’t seen the comparison of conservative women to leftist women.

    • Moto

      I’m scared. If I don’t choose the right political beliefs, then CD will refuse to have sex with me or women will refuse to have sex with me on behalf of CD.

      I’ll let you in on a little secret, I’m not interested in spending 5 seconds with any woman who is that much of a lemming.

  • American1969

    Anyone who thinks that the Obama Administration’s hands are clean in this is a delusional Obama Zombie. And may I point out that if this were reversed, the Left would be screaming about abuses of government power—-guess that’s only when it affects them, not someone else.

  • DebRollin

    Obama cannot hide his faulty policies anymore, they are exposed on all the websites, yet he travels to cities to campaign like nothing is wrong, but people know differently!

  • docwhocuts

    no wonder the tea party couldn’t get the vote out.
    it was all obama coordinating “his last election”

  • Sisyphus

    sorry to be so doom and gloom, but does anybody expect anything to come of this? mainstream media is not reporting this and Americans went to the Mall right after 9-11 and they have not yet come back. I would personally like to see anyone that had a hand in this go to jail, but i’m not holding my breath either

    • objectivefactsmatter

      At the very least it slows down his momentum and gives the sane people more time to explain how our constitution is supposed to work.

    • MLCBLOG

      Still, it’s good to expose and document.

  • Brian_R_Allen

    From JEFFREY LORD on 5.20.13 @ 6:11AM in The American Spectator:

    QUOTE:

    March 31, 2010.

    According to the White House Visitors Log, provided here in searchable form by U.S. News and World Report, the president of the anti-Tea Party National Treasury Employees Union, Colleen Kelley, visited the White House at 12:30pm that Wednesday noon time of March 31st.

    The White House lists the IRS union leader’s visit this way:

    Kelley, Colleen Potus 03/31/2010 12:30

    In White House language, “POTUS” stands for “President of the United States.”

    The very next day after her White House meeting with the President, according to the Treasury Department’s Inspector General’s Report, IRS employees — the same employees who belong to the NTEU — set to work in earnest targeting the Tea Party and conservative groups around America. The IG report wrote it up this way:

    April 1-2, 2010: The new Acting Manager, Technical Unit, suggested the need for a Sensitive Case Report on the Tea Party cases. The Determinations Unit Program Manager Agreed.

    In short: the very day after the president of the quite publicly anti-Tea Party labor union — the union for IRS employees — met with President Obama, the manager of the IRS “Determinations Unit Program agreed” to open a “Sensitive Case report on the Tea party cases.” As stated by the IG report.

    END QUOTE.

    0=Zero ran the op. This is what he does.

    The “presidential” stuff is all smoke and mirrors.

  • onecornpone

    Michelle, don’t you have a state dinner to prepare for…

    And be sure to send a more appropriate gift to the Royals this time, okay?

  • Dragonsbreath

    To paraphrase Stateswoman Clinton, “Yeah, but what difference will it make?””

  • ProgDestroyer

    Brianna, you really have drank heavily from the vat of Kool-Aid. Your Granddad Herr (fill in the blank) would have valued your testimony at Nuremburg. I can hear your testimony now, “Mein Fuhrer knew nut-ting about zeh death, oops, verk camps, he vas in de mountains taking a stroll”. Hey dummy, wilkins was one of two political appointees your fuhrer made, and he had a very long career as a demo-rat/Nazi bundler. So only the most obtuse head up his filthy posterior would spew the vomit you did above and actually believe it and then childishly blame Fox News. Let me guess you are a Huffpo/MSNBC girl aren’t you. Now shut up and take your bootleg Prozac with a Ripple chaser.

    • Brian Derrick

      you know, normally when I encounter responses that refer to me as gender discordant, I think “OK, I’m dealing with a child.” After all, who but a child would try to chastise someone by suggesting that they’re female, rather than male. Tacit in that posit is that now I’m female, thus I’m inferior. That’s inherently sexist, and reveals you to be a blathering, sexist, fatuous idiot. Go to bed old man.

      • Drakken

        Ah yes, regressive/leftard self hating self loathing at its best. Keep up the great work puzzy, you probably had your lunch money taken from you a lot didn’t you?

      • ProgDestroyer

        “waaahhh” cried the baby. In any case for me “mission accomplished!”, which of course is a double play saying for me. First I truly am MC because clearly I go under your skin which is one of my favorite past-times when dealing with little Eichmann’s like you and second given you no doubt suffer from GWBTS (George W. Bush Tourettes Syndrome), you will be spitting pea soup while your empty head spins on your skinny neck at the very mention of the phrase MC. So your pathetic sniveling and whining post is most amusing to me. Now didn’t I tell you to STFU and take your meds?

        • EarlyBird

          Wow, are you genuinely stupid? Have you contributed even the slimmest attempt at argument on this thread?

          Oh well, that’s why you hang out at FPM, to stew in your rage along with other low-wattage, anti-information goons, not to actually learn anything.

          • ProgDestroyer

            Arguments? no. Facts yes. You and your sister come here and pop off with your Obambi talking points and as is the case with all of you low information morons, you think what you say is based on “fact”. Savor the flavor zippy because a philosophy based on lies and deceit will not last and despite the media’s best efforts reality is taking hold and your about to be surprised. Now take your meds moron.

          • Moto

            “Savor the flavor zippy because a philosophy based on lies and deceit will not last and despite the media’s best efforts reality is taking hold and your about to be surprised.”

            The reality is that weak,immature, moronic,”progressive” phuckwits like this douche EarlyBird have been whining about “fascists” for so long that a gigantic jackboot is about to come down on their face from the place they least expect it.

            I am ready to throw my full support behind anyone who will crack the skulls of the administration’s Occupy/Justice4Trayvon/astroturf hippie pets and I don’t care how many of their Snivel Rights are violated in the process. The election and reelection of Obama and the left’s subsequent behavior has taught me that these pieces of crap think they are royalty and that we are their peasants. Well, America’s about to have a Marie Antionette moment if I have anything to say about it.

            I want to see the left’s heads rolling and/or bashed into pieces against the concrete, basically,what they’ve decided is fair treatment for us.

          • ProgDestroyer

            Thanks for the support friend. I do see a show-down coming in the near future without a doubt. I still hold out a patina of hope that it will occur through the voting booth but like you I am sure, I think we are approaching the point of no return where that will no longer be an option. It is truly a tragedy because the Eichmanns on the left like Tweety and Brianna are a cult-sized minority that have had their way with the constitutional loving majority. When the proverbial excrement hits the fan, they will discover in very short order how outnumbered they really are. I can’t say I feel sorry for them because I don’t and they will be getting the ass-woopin they have been pining for, for many years. As Sarah Palin said (to paraphrase), “let allah, gaia or UFOs sort out the trash.” When the craziness starts and foot needs to be put to ass, I will be the one in the front doin the thumping, because well, I am quite good at it.

          • EarlyBird

            Oh, poor, put-upon Moto!
            When you’re done beating your wife and children tonight, realize that it’s clear you’ve just become “Moto” because you were being humiliated under a different handle. You only have 7 posts under this new name and you know that I’ve been calling you fascists “facist” “for so long”? Huh.

            You fail, loser. If you start talking about “mailed fists,” you’ll really fail.

          • Moto

            I know that you’ve been calling right wingers fascists because ALL OF YOU PEOPLE HAVE BEEN REPEATING THE SAME THING FOR 50 YEARS LIKE A BROKEN RECORD.

            You are brain-damaged. It’s the only word you know.

            Two other things, I’m not a Republican, and I’ve been posting as “Moto” on this site for a freaking month,moron.

            Now,who’s humiliated?

            “. If you start talking about “mailed fists,” you’ll really fail.”

            I disagree. I don’t think you have as many friends as you think you do. I can’t be the only one who gets a semi thinking about some retard in a Che Guevara shirt and fruity European beret being ripped apart by police dogs and stomped on as he lays whining about his Snivel Rights being violated. After all, you’re the ones who’ve been talking about genociding middle America since Obama was elected.

          • EarlyBird

            Gee, why do conservatives seem to have a problem winning elections?

            “…a gigantic jackboot is about to come down on their face from the place they least expect it.

            “I am ready to throw my full support behind anyone who will crack the skulls of the administration’s Occupy/Justice4Trayvon/astroturf hippie pets and I don’t care how many of their Snivel Rights are violated in the process….Well, America’s about to have a Marie Antionette moment if I have anything to say about it.

            “I want to see the left’s heads rolling and/or bashed into pieces against the concrete, basically,what they’ve decided is fair treatment for us.”

          • objectivefactsmatter

            “Gee, why do conservatives seem to have a problem winning elections?”

            They lose in the pork delivery, “social justice” games and we allowed communists to indoctrinate our children.

            But this has been explained to you before. I’m sure you still won’t get it.

            And Moto is not delivering a stump speech. You’re very stupid. That’s also been repeated many times, but I think we need to make that clear in each thread where we find your droppings.

          • Moto

            I’m not affiliated with the Republican party in any way. I don’t care what their policies are, it’s clear they don’t have what it takes to stop these guys.

            You can’t let communists vote. They will vote themselves into power and vote away your right to vote. That goes for all collectivists, as all of you can now clearly see. Progressives, social democrats, socialists, and democrats are all united in forming a one-party state where every aspect of our lives is guided by their “all-knowing” leadership, because they know so much better than we do what we should do with our own lives.

            They are pushing this country to war with itself. They know the toll will be horrific, and they consider that a bonus. They are murderous,psychopathic, and have completely lost control over themselves and the cohort they lead.

            They are not competent to rule so much as a hot dog stand and they have PROVEN IT, repeatedly, throughout history and in every nation their crackpot collectivist schemes are tried.

            They are frauds.

            CHARLATANS.

            And they want you to be their unquestioning and obedient serf.

            I WILL NOT SUBMIT.

            I AM MY OWN KING,AND I INTEND TO RULE MYSELF UNTIL DEATH.

          • EarlyBird

            There is the tyranny of too much government, and there is the tyranny of not enough government. Some people need more government, some less.

            You need affordable college loans for your kids at government provided interest rate more than the guy making 4 times your salary, allowing them to go on to produce more wealth and maybe additional jobs for others. That doesn’t make you a communist.
            It’s about balance.

            Surely you’ve heard of the recent Farm Bill where Dems, being Dems, loaded it up with goodies and pork for everyone. The GOP, as if parodying themselves, demanded a stripped down version that buried Big Ag in subsidies while removing food stamp support of the very poor.

            Where’s the balance? And don’t give me the libertarian bullshit line. I love the sound of it, but it doesn’t work in the real world.

            If left to the Dems we’d become birds in a gilded cage, very quickly. If left to the GOP we’d become a Hobbesian society very quickly.

            We’ve gone too far to the latter in recent decades. With zealots like you the GOP has perverted the very idea of governance. Just like a purge of the Republican Party was necessary in the ’50s to be taken seriously again, we now need to purge cranks like you, Moto, and all the rest of the terrified reactionaries and bigots from my Party.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            Start your own party. Nobody wants you associated with them. They (a few lunatics that also don’t matter) may cheer on your potty mouth when you attack people online that you don’t understand, but basically your influence in politics is zippo beyond the levers you personally pull in the voting booth.

            For crying out loud, you can’t even accurately summarize anyone’s position in any given thread. It’s like you can barely skim the comment and make stupid false assumptions to fill in your narratives. I don’t recall you ever accurately reading back to someone the fundamentals of what was said. Ever.

            It’s very funny a lot of the times. but it’s also a bit sad to see one person just going insane all the time, thinking he is the sane one.

      • Moto

        “That’s inherently sexist, and reveals you to be a blathering, sexist, fatuous idiot.”

        Oh no, can’t have sexists,that’d be counter-revolutionary, wouldn’t it Comrade?

        You’re both female AND inferior. Not female,therefore inferior.

        Now stuff a tampon in it and stop menstruating all over this board.

      • objectivefactsmatter

        “Tacit in that posit is that now I’m female, thus I’m inferior.”

        Not really. It’s a way to test someone’s nerve and also imply that your not fully human. We know you’re not a bona fide female. Saying you’re (closer to) a woman is just an attack on your humanity more than it is insulting women. Though I can understand the confusion.

        It’s calling your manhood in to question, not your physical gender.

        Of course today many leftists will deny the importance of gender roles, so that just adds to the confusion.

        “Go to bed old man.”

        ‘Tacit in that posit is that now I’m old, thus I’m inferior…’

        Snivel. See how it works?

        • Brian Derrick

          “Saying you’re (closer to) a woman is just an attack on your humanity more than it is insulting women.”
          What?? You’re calling me a woman… to attack my humanity? That’s NOT insulting to women??
          You are an imbecile.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            “You’re calling me a woman… to attack my humanity?”

            I didn’t call you a woman.

            “That’s NOT insulting to women??”

            Yes it is. But most women understand that it’s just to test your response and they generally don’t care as much as you do. So you’re not a typical woman either.

  • ProgDestroyer

    Oh and Brianna, I know more than a lot about how the DoS works, and when it comes to security requests of the nature, type and place the request for Benghazi was, yes Shillary Clinton would have most definitely had to hack off on it. Incidentally what was your fuhrer doing during the 7-8 hours our brave folks were being smoked out and killed? Perhaps your ignorant tookus could answer that. Let me make a guess here, you are a product of the liberal gubment school system and really believe you are one of “we’s” when Dumbo said “we are the ones we have been waiting for”. You are delusional narcissistic twit that hasn’t got two brain cells to rub together. Pack your crap and go live in one of your alleged socialist nirvanas. I would like to suggest Zimbabwe or North Korea idiot. Now Shut up.

    • EarlyBird

      “…and when it comes to security requests of the nature, type and place the request for Benghazi…”

      In other words, you pathetic dolt, since there is no IRS scandal, let’s go on to another non-scandal. ANYTHING to unseat the BlackMarxistIslamistFascistHomosexualSatanicDevil, right?

      • ProgDestroyer

        Ok Tweety, I can see you are just as unhinged as your idiot sister, so I will try to see if you can keep up. First, and this is probably a shock to an idiot like you, this regime has a number of scandals that are going on. On this set of postings we have talked about two which is clearly more thatn you are able to comprehend. Nobody is moving on to anything, but I will accept that we do need to rid ourselves of “BlackMarxistIslamistFascistHomosexualSatanicDevil” (your words, not mine) I will concur 100% with the first four you mentioned and 50% with the fifth only because I don’t care and really it hasn’t been proven at all. As to the last two or one if you combine them together I have no idea. You sound pretty autobiographical with this description so perhaps you “doth protest too much” Tweety. Now you STFU and take your meds too.

        • EarlyBird

          So, let’s re-cap what you’ve revealed about yourself to everyone so far:

          You’re a homophobe, sexist, paranoid, given to baseless conspiracy theories, easily led around by anything you read or hear, and have an anger problem.

          • Moto

            And you people are irrational, doing the same things over and over expecting different results (one definition of insanity), setting people up with baseless charges of things that NOBODY can prove one way or the other and leading witch hunts against political opponents, cynically using every single event you can to push a political agenda on half the country that are repulsed by your prescriptions, inflaming racial,sexual, and religious hysteria against people for disagreeing with you,blacklisting people, threatening fellow Americans, sweeping judicial,executive and legislative corruption under the carpet, crippling our economy,undermining our foreign policy and too many other anti-American activities to mention. Next to you, he looks like Mother Teresa.

            Let’s get one of your college campus psychics to conjure her up so you can call her a fascist religious bigot.

            We haven’t heard that from ya’ll in like, oh…. 20 seconds.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            Not really. He’s likely just sick of people like you and decided to throw back some of the BS you shovel around here pretty much every time you open your mouth.

      • objectivefactsmatter

        “In other words, you pathetic dolt, since there is no IRS scandal, let’s go on to another non-scandal.”

        So if I commit arson and murder, I can tell the judge that my defense is the DA is lying. He only charged me with the second crime because he couldn’t make the first one stick, and therefore he’s a liar that can’t be trusted.

        If I’m a politician and get caught with a scandal, I’ll just make sure there are enough additional scandals to allow wingnuts like you to use your defense tactic.

        You don’t even have any clue how communism has rotted your brain.

        • EarlyBird

          The IRS scandal was real at first, and it was right for Americans to be very angry and concerned about it. With new, objective facts, however, we can see that there was no scandal. I’ve supplied multiple links to these objective facts in two places in this thread showing that the IRS had been targeting all political action committees, not just conservative ones. No scandal.

          The Benghazi scandal was one of bureaucratic incompetence, not ethics as the right wing charges. Throughout the State Department people didn’t receive, or take seriously enough, the warnings coming out of the Lybia. The Obama admin made a naive decision to keep that building lightly armed so it didn’t give the appearance of a fortress, when protecting our personnel should have been job #1. The information coming out during the attack was unclear, and the wrong explanation came out too soon, one which was clarified ultimately. Hillary’s testimony was whiny and took no responsibility.

          It was right to inquire and find out what the break down was so it couldn’t happen again.

          Benghazi was not Obama’s greatest moment. But the GOP over-reached, as always in their desire to delegitimize him, by stating that he intentionally let the attack happen out of solidarity with Islamists, or that he intentionally misled about the attack, and so they just looked insane.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            “With new, objective facts, however, we can see that there was no scandal.”

            We can see the spin control in action, which means we won’t know for certain until the full investigation is published and even then we won’t know.

            What you call “new objective facts” I call highly suspicious spin of trivial facts that may or may not support the defense. But taking all of the objective facts in totality, for example the lack of cooperation from those who need to answer questions, I’m saying that you have very bad judgment to come to your stated conclusions.

            “The Benghazi scandal was one of bureaucratic incompetence, not ethics, as the right wing over-charged.”

            It was incompetence, unethical choices during the event (worrying about Islamic appeasement and winning the election above all else), and lying about it after the event. And then you have the behavior at the UN and towards the video maker. The whole thing is outrageous. This alone shows how unhinged so many voters are and shows that a open traitor can get elected as POTUS. It also shows how gullible people like you are.

            “Benghazi was not Obama’s greatest moment.”

            Gee, he’s only human. It was just 4 bumps in the road that encouraged jihadis around the world but hey, shift happens.

            “But the GOP over-reached, as always in their desire to delegitimize him…”

            He delegitimized himself, if he ever was legitimate.

            “by stating that he intentionally let the attack happen out of solidarity with Islamists…”

            I’m not sure I have heard that, unless we’re talking about conspiring with Morsi. It’s possible but I doubt it.

            “…or that he intentionally misled about the attack…”

            There is no question at all that he intentionally misled the nation. No question at all. Even those defending him realize it, but they think that the greater good arguments are more important and so they accept that lying was the “right thing to do” because the messiah needs to be in the Whitehouse to bring us all the “good things” he does for us.

            “…and so they just looked insane.”

            Insane people like you almost always view others as insane when they disagree with you.

          • EarlyBird

            Your response further proves that you are driven by mindless partisanship.

            The counter-facts disproving that there was, ultimately, the IRS scandal is just “spin” to you because you don’t want to believe them.

            You really show your cards here: “…if he ever was legitimate.” How was Obama ever not legitimate? Oh, because you heard on right wing psychopath site some story about some story about….duh.

            Your take on Benghazi is just more screaming. If Obama was a Republican you wouldn’t give a rat’s a$$ about this. You’d know, sadly, that this is standard bureacratic bungling, poor judgement from 4,000 miles away in the White House, and CYA stuff after the fact. My God, as if this is the Ultimate Failure in American Presidential History!

            If your concern is that this “encouraged jihadis around the world, what the f*** do you think your preferred foreign policy would do, you freak?! How unself-aware can you be?

            Your fellow idiots on this board want Obama impeached over Benghazi. IMPEACHED! You fools! If Benghazi is now the standard for impeachment, let’s just get rid of the presidency entirely.

            Your red-faced self-rightousness is just proof of how deranged by partisanship you are. You would damage this country to take down the “Communist” in the White House. And it would be the same if ANY Democrat was in the White House. You hate people on your “left” more than you love America.

            You sad, stupid little man. Thank God the conservative movement is purging cretins like you.

      • Drakken

        As we say, Ignorance is no excuse. You defend this messiah like he has no fault or complicity in events and everything just happened in a vacuum. Your regressive traits are coming out again.

      • objectivefactsmatter

        “ANYTHING to unseat the BlackMarxistIslamistFascistHomosexualSatanicDevil, right?”

        Why are you racists always so concerned about skin tone?

  • tanstaafl

    “fundamentally change the United States….” Obama kept his promise.

  • Level999

    Orders don’t have to be given, they are understood.

  • 8ball

    I’m too busy figuring out ways to honor Trayvon to have time for this minor matter.

    • objectivefactsmatter

      That’s right. We need 3D Skittles statues and conversations about accusing detractors of white supremacy racism.

  • PaleAle

    This scandal is revealing the true extent of rot in this administration, as abetted by a complicit MSM & leftist supporters.

  • okokok

    lol..that’s a big step that means nothing..too bad for u RWNJs

    • objectivefactsmatter

      Aside from blabbing about your faith in big government leftist policies, what are you personally doing to make the world better?

      • okokok

        Isn’t that enough?

        • objectivefactsmatter

          Delusional lunatics tend to think so. IOW, you’re all talk without finding out if in fact you’re on the correct side of anything.

          • okokok

            Do you know conservatism is a mental illness….but treatable? Google it..lmao

          • objectivefactsmatter

            Uh huh. I think my point is well-proved.

          • okokok

            What? That u are phuckin nuts?read the Psychology Today article, nut bag…and then go cry to the mommy u never had! Lol

          • objectivefactsmatter

            I read that already. You’re a joke. You don’t even understand it.

            But as I said, I’ve proved my point. All you can do is point to other leftist lunatics. You don’t know how to accomplish anything but complain and blame others for things you can’t even do yourself. That’s why you need “big government” since we went to the moon, we ought to be able to fix your lame life for you by having leftist social engineers try out their untested theories because they seem so idyllic. To you and other losers. Who can’t do anything for themselves.

            Actually I’m guessing you literally are a paid troll for the left. You fit the profile 100%. Try to deny it.

          • okokok

            Your stupidity knows no bounds; to me you appear to be a coprophagic old fool deserving of mockery and ridicule…no one could pay me enough to come on this site and listen to ur inanities, little boy
            You are all dying out anyway so no one really cares what u think..got it? Is that clear ? Lol lol

          • objectivefactsmatter

            I’m probably one of the people that turned you down for work because you’re so clearly lacking in skills and sense. Take responsibility for your own problems. Nobody owes anything to you but respect for your constitutional rights. Stop begging and leaching.

            Good thing leftist organizations don’t need intelligent organized useful people to pay to troll conservatives.

            How much do you get?

            And you can stop making reference to articles from unhinged leftist assistant professor’s blogs. He’s trying to be funny.

            http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/evolutionary-entertainment/201206/conservatism-mental-illness

            It’s entertainment. He’s not actually suggesting what you think he is.

          • Moto

            They’ve been pushing this line since “The Authoritarian Personality” was written by one of their lunatic lefty fellow travelers many,many years ago.

            This idiot got the fifth-hand lowest common denominator distillation of the original raving psychopath’s vile smear. And he thinks he’s a “freethinker” after he got his information fifth-hand from generations that it was spoonfed to before! That’s the funny part.

            “You are all dying out anyway so no one really cares what u think..got it?”

            And you’d better hope that we do, because if we don’t, your attitude will be noted and you will be made to care what we think. Got that? We are still the majority in this country. There’s about 50 years of pain still left for you, even if we don’t change course.

            That’s plenty of time for you to bitterly regret ever being born many,many, MANY times over.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            That’s funny.

  • joshuasweet

    add this to the other scandalous events that Obama instigated prior to the elections as enumerated here:
    http://www.mrc.org/sites/default/files/documents/CensorshipElection.pdf
    we should be in fear of the democratic processes demise.

  • HAlbert

    Barack Obama has obviously had a direct hand in directing this illegal harassment of The TEA Party from the get-go. I have no illusions that we will be able to rid our country of this scoundrel like we did with Richard Nixon, but we may be able to throw a monkey-wrench into Obama’s plan for destroying
    our Constitutional form of governance–no thanks to the feckless Republicans either! I’d love to see a TEA Party attempt at an independent party movement to replace the GOP. It just ain’t any longer all that “grand”.

  • objectivefactsmatter

    “Blah blah blah, I’m hyper-skeptical about evidence when leftists are accused, and right-wing bloodsucking vampires are evil.”

    • Drakken

      You forgot to use your sarc tag, the other folks don’t know you as well we do. ;)

      • objectivefactsmatter

        I used to think adding “blood sucking vampires” would be clue enough. Now I realize that insane leftists some times use that very same phrase.

        What’s the world coming to? It’s still shocking some times when I think about what our POTUS gets away with. I mean I shake my head regularly, and I’m pretty cynical and used to these Machiavellian politicians. These are unprecedented events in world history.

        But most 0′Bamabots merely consider this the party of genuine progress versus the greedy dinosaurs. What a bunch of losers they are.

        • Drakken

          When this whole house of cards come crashing down and the folks on the left lose their bread and circuses, they are going to get a tad upset that their messiah didn’t deliver. Poetic justice to say the least.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            “When this whole house of cards come crashing down and the folks on the left lose their bread and circuses, they are going to get a tad upset that their messiah didn’t deliver.”

            For all their talk about “progress” their key political tactics come straight from imperial Rome.

  • DebRollin

    Dissolve the IRS and implement the Fair Tax, or Flat Tax. This is now a criminal enterprise.

  • Phil McMorrow

    I vote for Conman Carney.

  • EarlyBird

    Ahlert, you lying piece of garbage.

    Lie #1: there were NEVER any charges of the IRS going after “pro-Israel groups” particularly, as you state, beyond the fact that many conservative groups happen to hold pro-Israel stances, along with a focus on lower taxes, less government spending on middle class and low income citizens, and maintaining US empire around the globe.

    Lie #2: Most importantly, it was ultimately shown that the IRS was not just targeting conservative and Tea Party groups applying for tax-exempt legal status, but in fact also included liberal groups doing the same. It was simply focused on political action committees asking for tax exempt status, period.

    It was right to be outraged at WHEN it appeared that government was abusing its power for political ends. But with new information that position must change accordingly. Here are the facts from at least three actual news organizations dispelling the myth of a scandal, not FPM or other propaganda sites:

    http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/24/politics/irs-targeting

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2013/07/18/irs-tea-party-hearing/2551339/

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/05/15/report-the-irs-also-targeted-at-least-three-liberal-groups/

    Lie #3: So, far from the IRS “scandal” heating up during the Zimmerman affair, it was being shown to NOT EVEN BE a scandal in the first place. It was shutting down.

    Ahlert, you repulsive, hateful hack. Strike 3, you’re out!

    • Drakken

      Holy sam on a bench and cheese and rice are you that much of a minion of the left that you cannot see what is right in front of you that a blind man can see it? Cognitive dissonance they name is EB.

      • EarlyBird

        I showed you three links to articles dispelling the initial reports that the IRS was targeting (only) conservative groups. I could link you to 30 more.

        I too was outraged about this initially, but then I got the entire story: the IRS was simply targeting ANY political action committee which was asking for tax exempt status. It so happens that when liberals are in power, the number of conservative PACs rise, and vice versa.

        This doesn’t make me a friend of the IRS, but it clearly seems to show the IRS was a equal opportunity offender. And there is ZERO evidence that Obama had anything to do with this. (The paranoid fantasies of him being some Machivellian character is hilarious.)

        I don’t expect you to know this information, but this effing Ahlert certainly does. And his bulls**t about the IRS specifically targeting “pro-Israel” groups is just beyond. Talk about laying it on thick.

  • glpage

    So, if this wasn’t politically motivated why haven’t the scores of left wing 501C applicants whose applications were unjustly held up been asking for justice in the matter?

    One can take single issues that appear to be of no consequence and say nothing really happened, but when you start adding them all up patterns emerge. Kinda like Watergate.

    • Brian Derrick

      The IG’s report was limited to Tea Party groups, and this
      was at the request of Darrell Issa and congressional Republicans. The IRS targeted lots of different kinds of groups, not just conservative ones (although we do not have the total numbers of applicants for 501(c)4s, and thus cannot determine if the number of conservative groups targeted is proportional to their number). In addition, the only organizations whose tax-exempt statuses were actually denied were progressive organizations, and that many of the targeted conservative groups indeed crossed the line and were asked to report donors. Finally, the White House was didn’t even know about it until shortly before the public did. The very idea that the POTUS, along with a legal appointee, would go to the effort (and the incredible risk) of politically targeting 150 penny-ante grass root teabilly hee haw clubs trying to get tax exempt status is both feeble-minded and flat out laughable. It’s such an acerebral, moronic idea it barely can pass muster as a plausible conspiracy. You were better off with Benghazi.

      • glpage

        Nice roundabout obfuscation. You didn’t answer the question. Where are the complaints from all the left wing groups who were targeted? Also, how do you know the WH didn’t know about until shortly before the general public? Besides, Obama and Carney said so. Your argument about POTUS risking the fallout is very similar to the sort of garbage we heard about Nixon and Watergate. Turns out Watergate really happened. Given Obama’s Chicago style political bent and his hubris, well, I tend to believe anything is possible.

      • ProgDestroyer

        Brianna, didn’t I tell you to STFU and take your meds? Riddle me this bat-girl, how do we know about the paltry 2 or 3 “progressive” groups that were targeted too that “prove” in the minds of morons like you that a ratio of 500:2 for targeting is “equal”. You probably think you can only get a little pregnant too don’t you.

      • EarlyBird

        “The very idea that the POTUS, along with a legal appointee, would go to the effort (and the incredible risk) of politically targeting 150 penny-ante grass root teabilly hee haw clubs trying to get tax exempt status is both feeble-minded and flat out laughable.”

        Oh but when you’re drunk on partisanship, it so fits the narrative of the EEEeeevil tyrant. On one hand they’ll charge Obama for not being able to tie his shoes, and in the next breath they’ll say he’s controlling lives at this minute level. You are dealing with a group of people in the grip of mass hysteria. These are not conservatives, they are cranks.

        • objectivefactsmatter

          Who could believe that voter fraud would happen? Voter fraud? Come on! That can’t happen!

          Who could believe that any leftist politician would be insincere? Come on! We KNOW that all evil politicians join the Republican Party. Democrats are pure. The party ensures this with their careful selection of upright members.

          Who could believe in crony-capitalism from a leftist? Who could believe that a POTUS would ignore an embassy under attack?

          Come on you guys! You all KNOW 0′Bama is our sinless messiah but you can’t handle it because he’s black!

          ADMIT IT! YOU’RE ALL RACISTS!

          This has been a public service broadcast from the BBBC.

          • EarlyBird

            Yep, you are a simpleton.

        • objectivefactsmatter

          “On one hand they’ll charge Obama for not being able to tie his shoes, and in the next breath they’ll say he’s controlling lives at this minute level.”

          Nobody ever said communist jihadis can’t tie their own shoes. Where’d you get that BS? He’s competent at leftist politics. He’s brilliant.

          Happy now? We just think he’s evil.

          Now his only defense would be incompetence, and we sort of include that is the most generous thing we can come up with.

          And how hard is it to simply approve some leftist nutbag’s plans when they are proposed?

          You’re the one that is unlikely to be able to tie his own shoes.

      • objectivefactsmatter

        “The IG’s report was limited to Tea Party groups, and this was at the request of Darrell Issa and congressional Republicans.”

        Ahh, it’s a scandal because it shows the Democrats are being persecuted. Naturally.

        “The IRS targeted lots of different kinds of groups, not just conservative ones (although we do not have the total numbers of applicants for 501(c)4s, and thus cannot determine if the number of conservative groups targeted is proportional to their number).”

        It’s not “targeting” per se. It’s targeting for particular unjust treatment. Details matter.

        “In addition, the only organizations whose tax-exempt statuses were actually denied were progressive organizations, and that many of the targeted conservative groups indeed crossed the line and were asked to report donors.”

        You can quote your talking points all you want, but the IG found persecution of conservative groups. We have people asking for immunity on the matter. If there’s no scandal, why would anyone need immunity before cooperating with further investigation?

        Your summary only makes sense to people who skim headlines and instinctively believe that leftist politicians really do care about justice and American values.

        0′Bama and everyone he appoints are internationalists. That’s the most flattering thing I can say about them. They consider America to be “imperialist.” Anyone that wants to preserve American culture and sovereignty is an enemy of mankind in their view.

        That’s their agenda. You’re either naive, or that’s also your agenda.

        What is it that you think 0′Bama is proposing to “transform?”

      • objectivefactsmatter

        Here’s a decent sample description of the allegations:

        “Lawyers argue that IRS officials “working in offices from California to Washington, D.C., pulled applications from conservative organizations, delayed processing those applications for sometimes well over a year, then made probing and unconstitutional requests for additional information that often required applicants to disclose, among other things, donor lists, direct and indirect communications with members of legislative bodies, Internet passwords and usernames, copies of social media and other Internet postings, and even the political and charitable activities of family members.”

        Yes, the spinmasters have responded. You lap it up. I’ll wait for further evidence. I doubt very much this was entirely fabricated by 0′Bama and Democratic Party. critics.

    • EarlyBird

      “So, if this wasn’t politically motivated why haven’t the scores of left wing 501C applicants whose applications were unjustly held up been asking for justice in the matter?”

      Because the liberal groups do not believe they have been picked on by a liberal adminstration, that’s why. They don’t see their applications being held up as an injustice, but a snafu and poor bureacracy, but not political.

      It was reasonable, before all the facts were known, for conservative PACs to believe they were being singled out for political reasons by a liberal admin. See?

      • Brian Derrick

        Your idea is in line with with Politico’s view on this: demos complain less! Dems are less likely to think they’re victims of the government (given a democratic administration). Of course, right wingers feel the same way with a republican administration:
        http://www.politico.com/story/2013/07/irs-scrutinized-liberal-groups-94556.html

        • objectivefactsmatter

          “Your idea is in line with with Politico’s view on this: demos complain less!”

          That’s hilarious. Yeah, he’s in line alright.

          Can you please specify the content of your prayers before we process your application further? Leftists don’t mind being asked that by other leftists I guess. Is that your point?

      • objectivefactsmatter

        “Because the liberal groups would be unlikely to believe they have been picked on by a liberal adminstration. They don’t see their applications being held up as a politically motivated injustice, but a snafu of a bungling bureaucracy.”

        Because the “targeting” didn’t do them any harm. If they were denied, it was during the expected time-frame and reasonably explained to them.

        “It was reasonable, before all the facts were known, for conservative PACs to believe they were being singled out for political reasons by a liberal admin. But now we have the facts and so we know there was no scandal after all, but the right keeps digging in.”

        Only someone who is either insane, a blatant liar, or unaware of the facts of the investigation could say that.

        • EarlyBird

          Liberal PACs experienced the same amount of delays and rejections, based on percentage, as the conservative PACs. Try again.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            “Liberal PACs experienced the same amount of delays and rejections, based on percentage, as the conservative PACs. Try again.”

            You must be joking. Just say anything you want. Your peers only care of it’s pro-leftist.

            As I said before, there are lawsuits pending. So that will force a lot more evidence to come out as opposed to expecting politicians to investigate each other and then tell us about it.

    • objectivefactsmatter

      “So, if this wasn’t politically motivated why haven’t the scores of left wing 501C applicants whose applications were unjustly held up been asking for justice in the matter?”

      Because there is no claim of injustice. They weren’t targeted for abuse. Not all “targeting” is equal.

  • RhettButler1

    Lies, deception, misdirection………… the Democrat creed.

  • Moto

    ” That way, you can accuse the president and the White House of using the IRS to target Tea Party groups for partisan
    political purposes — without any evidence to support your claims!”

    Except for the President’s own statements about targeting your enemies and the obvious trail of political suppression that at this point verifiably leads all the way up to the very top of the IRS as confirmed by the statements of IRS employees,of course.

    Nothing you said is actually a rebuttal of anything. You introduced no new evidence,only snarky unoriginal opinions that you probably copied from something you read in the Village Voice or something.

    @EarlyBird “In other words, you pathetic dolt, since there is no IRS scandal, let’s go on to another non-scandal.”

    We’ll decide when we’re scandalized,thank you. You can go **** yourself, traitor.

  • Joel Cairo

    It isn’t the press or media any more. It is the ministry of propaganda.

  • EarlyBird

    You are a member of a tiny fringe cult that has hated everything about this country since 1952. You hate this country because you don’t even understand what its about, you repulsive, hateful, dimwit. The only “real Americans” in your world are right wing, fascist, evangelical, white, straight, poorly educated, gun toting, with a bit of a twang in their voice, located in the rural counties of about 10 of the US states. That leaves you with about 3% of the American population who realte to, Bubba. If you don’t love America, get the f**k out!