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	<title>Comments on: Numbers Aren&#8217;t Adding Up for ObamaCare</title>
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		<title>By: Ellman48</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/arnold-ahlert/numbers-arent-adding-up-for-obamacare/comment-page-1/#comment-5312696</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ellman48]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Nov 2013 05:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Someone less optimistic might find the minuscule level of actual signups
 compared to the browsers troubling, especially given the horrifying 
numbers of Americans losing their health insurance every day.&quot;


We need to remember that Liberals and Progressives are never discouraged by the &#039;Facts&#039; when the facts don&#039;t support their ideological positions or political/social agendas. If the actual results of their utopian policies make the latter indefensible then they will find other &#039;facts&#039; which suit their narrative better. Or they will stand logic and common sense on their heads and argue that people losing their insurance policies is actually GOOD because it advances Obamacare&#039;s ultimate goal of a single-payer system. You see, to these wing nuts the government is the giver of life and social justice, not the oppressor of liberties and scourge of opportunity and prosperity. So what we need, according to them, is more people on food stamps and fewer in jobs, and this is exactly what they are accomplishing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Someone less optimistic might find the minuscule level of actual signups<br />
 compared to the browsers troubling, especially given the horrifying<br />
numbers of Americans losing their health insurance every day.&#8221;</p>
<p>We need to remember that Liberals and Progressives are never discouraged by the &#8216;Facts&#8217; when the facts don&#8217;t support their ideological positions or political/social agendas. If the actual results of their utopian policies make the latter indefensible then they will find other &#8216;facts&#8217; which suit their narrative better. Or they will stand logic and common sense on their heads and argue that people losing their insurance policies is actually GOOD because it advances Obamacare&#8217;s ultimate goal of a single-payer system. You see, to these wing nuts the government is the giver of life and social justice, not the oppressor of liberties and scourge of opportunity and prosperity. So what we need, according to them, is more people on food stamps and fewer in jobs, and this is exactly what they are accomplishing.</p>
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		<title>By: NAHALKIDES</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/arnold-ahlert/numbers-arent-adding-up-for-obamacare/comment-page-1/#comment-5312647</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NAHALKIDES]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Nov 2013 01:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ultimately, the only way to fight Leftism is to fight it at the ideological level - just arguing about their policies &quot;not working&quot; or being &quot;too expensive&quot; isn&#039;t a strong enough attack or an exciting enough program in the rough-and-tumble of political warfare.  It&#039;s why Scott Walker very nearly had his head handed to him by the Wisconsin unions - he refused to attack them on moral grounds as he should have.


And yes, of course the Democrats want single-payer - &lt;b&gt;because they&#039;re just after power.&lt;/b&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ultimately, the only way to fight Leftism is to fight it at the ideological level &#8211; just arguing about their policies &#8220;not working&#8221; or being &#8220;too expensive&#8221; isn&#8217;t a strong enough attack or an exciting enough program in the rough-and-tumble of political warfare.  It&#8217;s why Scott Walker very nearly had his head handed to him by the Wisconsin unions &#8211; he refused to attack them on moral grounds as he should have.</p>
<p>And yes, of course the Democrats want single-payer &#8211; <b>because they&#8217;re just after power.</b></p>
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		<title>By: ricpic</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ricpic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2013 23:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[About &quot;putting Humpty Dumpty back together&quot;...Obama doesn&#039;t care. First off the con must continue and secondly reinstating an impossible reversal of the scrapped insurance plans amounts to details, stuff that&#039;s below him, of no more concern than what cleanup crews did in every faculty lounge he and his fellow oblivious academics left littered and stale.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About &#8220;putting Humpty Dumpty back together&#8221;&#8230;Obama doesn&#8217;t care. First off the con must continue and secondly reinstating an impossible reversal of the scrapped insurance plans amounts to details, stuff that&#8217;s below him, of no more concern than what cleanup crews did in every faculty lounge he and his fellow oblivious academics left littered and stale.</p>
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		<title>By: WW4</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[WW4]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2013 20:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t like the idea of going the &quot;here&#039;s their &quot;REAL intentions&quot; route; that&#039;s boilerplate. &quot;Republicans don&#039;t care about people; just profits&quot; is the flipside of &quot;Democrats are just after power.&quot; 


To me, the pocketbook is where it&#039;s at. Personal experience.


What is going to happen when all these people join the Medicaid rolls? What is going to happen when all these people claim their subsidies?


I suspect the democrats want to move toward single payer. This is dangerous, particularly when things are confusing. From the perspective of patients who deal with mountains of bills from everywhere, from doctors they&#039;re not even sure they&#039;ve met in person, single payer makes sense. For practitioners, who employ people just to navigate and input the various insurance companies and codes, it introduces cost savings and efficiency. So you see it is very tempting....


...Until the money runs out. Until those practitioners find their compensation held back 1 or 2 years at a time. Until those patients find themselves waiting 4 months for a procedure.


These are the things--the hidden cost in taxes, the fact that the ACA is a halfway measure designed to placate everyone that really doesn&#039;t address health care costs--that need to be illuminated.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t like the idea of going the &#8220;here&#8217;s their &#8220;REAL intentions&#8221; route; that&#8217;s boilerplate. &#8220;Republicans don&#8217;t care about people; just profits&#8221; is the flipside of &#8220;Democrats are just after power.&#8221; </p>
<p>To me, the pocketbook is where it&#8217;s at. Personal experience.</p>
<p>What is going to happen when all these people join the Medicaid rolls? What is going to happen when all these people claim their subsidies?</p>
<p>I suspect the democrats want to move toward single payer. This is dangerous, particularly when things are confusing. From the perspective of patients who deal with mountains of bills from everywhere, from doctors they&#8217;re not even sure they&#8217;ve met in person, single payer makes sense. For practitioners, who employ people just to navigate and input the various insurance companies and codes, it introduces cost savings and efficiency. So you see it is very tempting&#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8230;Until the money runs out. Until those practitioners find their compensation held back 1 or 2 years at a time. Until those patients find themselves waiting 4 months for a procedure.</p>
<p>These are the things&#8211;the hidden cost in taxes, the fact that the ACA is a halfway measure designed to placate everyone that really doesn&#8217;t address health care costs&#8211;that need to be illuminated.</p>
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		<title>By: NAHALKIDES</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NAHALKIDES]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2013 06:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I like your idea in theory.  In practice, Republicans do not have the media as their propaganda arm the way Barry does.  Therefore, they have to explain to voters why Obamacare is bad - that it is and always was a Democratic power-grab, and that Democrats don&#039;t care about people but only about power.  I think this last is critical:  Conservatives care about people and Democrats don&#039;t (Establishment Republicans don&#039;t really care much more than Democrats do), and the GOP has to be perceived as the party that is concerned about the ordinary man.


In other words, I don&#039;t think it&#039;s enough to allow Obamacare to fail of its own accord - the NHS in Britain is a miserable failure, and yet people still support it.  Republicans need to make sure people understand what a big failure it is, and then they need to keep pointing out every day that it&#039;s all the Democrats&#039; fault.  The constant attack works, which is why the Democrats do it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like your idea in theory.  In practice, Republicans do not have the media as their propaganda arm the way Barry does.  Therefore, they have to explain to voters why Obamacare is bad &#8211; that it is and always was a Democratic power-grab, and that Democrats don&#8217;t care about people but only about power.  I think this last is critical:  Conservatives care about people and Democrats don&#8217;t (Establishment Republicans don&#8217;t really care much more than Democrats do), and the GOP has to be perceived as the party that is concerned about the ordinary man.</p>
<p>In other words, I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s enough to allow Obamacare to fail of its own accord &#8211; the NHS in Britain is a miserable failure, and yet people still support it.  Republicans need to make sure people understand what a big failure it is, and then they need to keep pointing out every day that it&#8217;s all the Democrats&#8217; fault.  The constant attack works, which is why the Democrats do it.</p>
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		<title>By: Ellman48</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ellman48]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2013 06:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;When it comes to peoples’ healthcare, “almost” isn’t remotely good enough.&quot;


For government-sponsored programs &quot;almost&quot; is laudable and exceeding expectations as far as Democratic politicians and bureaucrats are concerned. People who work for or within the government have a simple motivation - maximum pay and benefits for least effort and stress. &quot;Almost&quot; is more than good enough. After all, there is no competition and there are no alternative providers!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;When it comes to peoples’ healthcare, “almost” isn’t remotely good enough.&#8221;</p>
<p>For government-sponsored programs &#8220;almost&#8221; is laudable and exceeding expectations as far as Democratic politicians and bureaucrats are concerned. People who work for or within the government have a simple motivation &#8211; maximum pay and benefits for least effort and stress. &#8220;Almost&#8221; is more than good enough. After all, there is no competition and there are no alternative providers!</p>
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		<title>By: patron</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[patron]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2013 05:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think the typical Democratic voter cares little if their ideas succeed or fail.


Many profiteer from Democrats winning elections. Most vote to reinforce their own insecurities.


Democrats bait the GOP for a solution. The totalitarian left will respond with vicious hateful ads showing old people eating dog food and grandmas being thrown off cliffs regardless of what&#039;s in it.


So far Democrats have won by tagging and tracking people down, brainwashing them and stuffing them in the ballot box on election day after years of disgusting slanderous campaigns aimed at anyone who get&#039;s in their way.


Selecting a candidate whose actually passionate about winning the Presidency would be the first step. 


Second would be to attack the Democrats back. People like Obama, Axlerod, Rahm Emmanuel and Stephanie Cutter are not exactly Julius Caesar. Those spineless worms won&#039;t even take on the coward criminals in Chicago. Strike them back and they&#039;ll cry to mama.


I used to think a third step would be to start local community improvement initiatives, but change like that has to start with the individual. People you&#039;re helping would think you are a fool or a bother, and if you ever did get it to work some scumbag politician would come in and steal everything from you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the typical Democratic voter cares little if their ideas succeed or fail.</p>
<p>Many profiteer from Democrats winning elections. Most vote to reinforce their own insecurities.</p>
<p>Democrats bait the GOP for a solution. The totalitarian left will respond with vicious hateful ads showing old people eating dog food and grandmas being thrown off cliffs regardless of what&#8217;s in it.</p>
<p>So far Democrats have won by tagging and tracking people down, brainwashing them and stuffing them in the ballot box on election day after years of disgusting slanderous campaigns aimed at anyone who get&#8217;s in their way.</p>
<p>Selecting a candidate whose actually passionate about winning the Presidency would be the first step. </p>
<p>Second would be to attack the Democrats back. People like Obama, Axlerod, Rahm Emmanuel and Stephanie Cutter are not exactly Julius Caesar. Those spineless worms won&#8217;t even take on the coward criminals in Chicago. Strike them back and they&#8217;ll cry to mama.</p>
<p>I used to think a third step would be to start local community improvement initiatives, but change like that has to start with the individual. People you&#8217;re helping would think you are a fool or a bother, and if you ever did get it to work some scumbag politician would come in and steal everything from you.</p>
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		<title>By: spinosaurus</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[spinosaurus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2013 05:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Digging through code is easy with profiling.

The trouble is with interfacing with different information systems, 50 state Medicaid and Medicare systems, IRS to verify income, Social Security to verify identity, Post Office to verify address, and the dozens of different insurers for each state to run business rules and send data in proper formating.

Plus all this is regulated by Congressional Federal Regulations. Companies who work with the government usually have to keep up with normal compliance, like ISO, SOX, Dodd-Frank and PCI DDS. With CFRs there&#039;s fair bidding, and probably a ton more for federal IT procurement to ensure we are not using counterfeit chips from China which will explode at the CCP&#039;s will, as well as software security standards issued by both defense (FISMA, DISA STIG) and nsa which most governments use instead of creating their own security policy. Add on top of that HIPAA, in no way can anyone create a sane system.

The worst part of it all is that a system can comply to all these security requirements, yet still be taken down quite easily exploiting it directly, or exploiting one of the developer&#039;s or admin&#039;s systems. That&#039;s not even going into the threat posed by an insider, like Bradley Manning/wikileaks, or some smellsack with a gun and a pipebomb.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Digging through code is easy with profiling.</p>
<p>The trouble is with interfacing with different information systems, 50 state Medicaid and Medicare systems, IRS to verify income, Social Security to verify identity, Post Office to verify address, and the dozens of different insurers for each state to run business rules and send data in proper formating.</p>
<p>Plus all this is regulated by Congressional Federal Regulations. Companies who work with the government usually have to keep up with normal compliance, like ISO, SOX, Dodd-Frank and PCI DDS. With CFRs there&#8217;s fair bidding, and probably a ton more for federal IT procurement to ensure we are not using counterfeit chips from China which will explode at the CCP&#8217;s will, as well as software security standards issued by both defense (FISMA, DISA STIG) and nsa which most governments use instead of creating their own security policy. Add on top of that HIPAA, in no way can anyone create a sane system.</p>
<p>The worst part of it all is that a system can comply to all these security requirements, yet still be taken down quite easily exploiting it directly, or exploiting one of the developer&#8217;s or admin&#8217;s systems. That&#8217;s not even going into the threat posed by an insider, like Bradley Manning/wikileaks, or some smellsack with a gun and a pipebomb.</p>
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		<title>By: spyeatte</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[spyeatte]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2013 02:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, as the complexity of the law increases, it gets to the point where the software becomes intractable.  Included is the factors involved in interfacing with multiple federal agencies and you have a monster.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, as the complexity of the law increases, it gets to the point where the software becomes intractable.  Included is the factors involved in interfacing with multiple federal agencies and you have a monster.</p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[objectivefactsmatter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2013 01:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s about the fervent belief that the more power they have, the more &quot;progress&quot; they can deliver...at some point. It&#039;s always an &quot;investment&quot; where they never disclose the risks or costs. Because...Darwinism or something. It must apply to government too! That&#039;s what the Will to Power means essentially. If you survive and become the most powerful, you&#039;re doing your duty for &quot;progress&quot; in mankind.


And socialist scams are always Ponzi schemes on top of that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s about the fervent belief that the more power they have, the more &#8220;progress&#8221; they can deliver&#8230;at some point. It&#8217;s always an &#8220;investment&#8221; where they never disclose the risks or costs. Because&#8230;Darwinism or something. It must apply to government too! That&#8217;s what the Will to Power means essentially. If you survive and become the most powerful, you&#8217;re doing your duty for &#8220;progress&#8221; in mankind.</p>
<p>And socialist scams are always Ponzi schemes on top of that.</p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[objectivefactsmatter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2013 01:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It depends entirely on how well they documented their work. But it&#039;s absolutely possible that you are correct. But there&#039;s no way to know without taking a peak inside.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It depends entirely on how well they documented their work. But it&#8217;s absolutely possible that you are correct. But there&#8217;s no way to know without taking a peak inside.</p>
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		<title>By: WW4</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[WW4]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Nov 2013 22:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Right now there&#039;s this whole &quot;See? The website doesn&#039;t work. Insurance companies are discontinuing plans. Therefore, the ACA should be repealed&quot; formulation. It&#039;s still 2013, we&#039;re a month into the whole exchange model.  Staking out the position you propose is a bad place to be if/when the website starts working, and people start picking up coverage. It only works if NOTHING good happens for anybody before elections.


Republicans quite frankly need to take a page from Obama&#039;s book: &quot;Give them enough rope and....&quot; &quot;Why show them my birth certificate/college transcripts when we can watch them go absolutely crazy about it?  Why tell them where I was during the Benghazi attacks when they can make an industry out of paranoid speculation?&quot; 


You can see the problems with the ACA.  You can see there are &quot;hidden&quot; costs. You can see that it barely, if at all, addresses the problem of health care costs.  But if you don&#039;t let it get to the point where people can see those things for themselves...and tell them it&#039;s because you&#039;re &quot;saving&quot; them, well....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right now there&#8217;s this whole &#8220;See? The website doesn&#8217;t work. Insurance companies are discontinuing plans. Therefore, the ACA should be repealed&#8221; formulation. It&#8217;s still 2013, we&#8217;re a month into the whole exchange model.  Staking out the position you propose is a bad place to be if/when the website starts working, and people start picking up coverage. It only works if NOTHING good happens for anybody before elections.</p>
<p>Republicans quite frankly need to take a page from Obama&#8217;s book: &#8220;Give them enough rope and&#8230;.&#8221; &#8220;Why show them my birth certificate/college transcripts when we can watch them go absolutely crazy about it?  Why tell them where I was during the Benghazi attacks when they can make an industry out of paranoid speculation?&#8221; </p>
<p>You can see the problems with the ACA.  You can see there are &#8220;hidden&#8221; costs. You can see that it barely, if at all, addresses the problem of health care costs.  But if you don&#8217;t let it get to the point where people can see those things for themselves&#8230;and tell them it&#8217;s because you&#8217;re &#8220;saving&#8221; them, well&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: WW4</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[WW4]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Nov 2013 21:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, those things need to be &quot;packaged,&quot; given a catchy name, and &quot;sold&quot; in a compelling fashion. Maybe a Paul Ryan-type.


With people chafing at the ACA&#039;s one-size-fits-all approach, people are going to be a lot more aware of what they stand to gain and lose.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, those things need to be &#8220;packaged,&#8221; given a catchy name, and &#8220;sold&#8221; in a compelling fashion. Maybe a Paul Ryan-type.</p>
<p>With people chafing at the ACA&#8217;s one-size-fits-all approach, people are going to be a lot more aware of what they stand to gain and lose.</p>
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		<title>By: Vincent3Gray</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vincent3Gray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Nov 2013 21:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How come we`re still not allowed to openly discuss the GENOCIDAL mass immigration+assimilation imposed on EVERY white country and ONLY white countries?
&quot;Diversity&quot; is a code word for Anti-white.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How come we`re still not allowed to openly discuss the GENOCIDAL mass immigration+assimilation imposed on EVERY white country and ONLY white countries?<br />
&#8220;Diversity&#8221; is a code word for Anti-white.</p>
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		<title>By: WW4</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[WW4]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Nov 2013 21:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree about single payer, but it is hard to deny how attractive it would be politically, and not just for people looking for a &quot;free lunch,&quot; but for employers and providers. I don&#039;t see it happening anytime soon, thankfully--but at some point, it will rear its head.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree about single payer, but it is hard to deny how attractive it would be politically, and not just for people looking for a &#8220;free lunch,&#8221; but for employers and providers. I don&#8217;t see it happening anytime soon, thankfully&#8211;but at some point, it will rear its head.</p>
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		<title>By: NAHALKIDES</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Nov 2013 20:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What needs to be proposed is free-market reforms such as ending State mandates, tort reform, ending the tax incentive for employer-provided insurance, etc.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What needs to be proposed is free-market reforms such as ending State mandates, tort reform, ending the tax incentive for employer-provided insurance, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: NAHALKIDES</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/arnold-ahlert/numbers-arent-adding-up-for-obamacare/comment-page-1/#comment-5312073</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NAHALKIDES]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Nov 2013 20:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t see why Republicans aren&#039;t more aggressive over this.  Why aren&#039;t they (Boehner, McConnell, etc.) explaining daily to the American people, &quot;This is why we withheld funding of Obamacare - we were trying to save you.  And now we call on the Democrats to agree to a full repeal of Obamacare in order to save more Americans from losing their health insurance, unless the power to rule Americans&#039; health-care decisions is more important to them.&quot;  They could really put the Democrats in a worse bind than they&#039;re already in, if they only had the wits to do it.


As for a one-year delay, I&#039;m not sure that&#039;s in Republicans&#039; interest.  The goal must always be repeal, and nothing that relieves the pressure felt by Democrats should be agreed to except repeal or something that further cripples Obamacare.  Although I agree that keeping Obamacare from completely destroying health insurance is a good idea, in the end we must keep the pressure up until we are free of this hideous power-grab.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see why Republicans aren&#8217;t more aggressive over this.  Why aren&#8217;t they (Boehner, McConnell, etc.) explaining daily to the American people, &#8220;This is why we withheld funding of Obamacare &#8211; we were trying to save you.  And now we call on the Democrats to agree to a full repeal of Obamacare in order to save more Americans from losing their health insurance, unless the power to rule Americans&#8217; health-care decisions is more important to them.&#8221;  They could really put the Democrats in a worse bind than they&#8217;re already in, if they only had the wits to do it.</p>
<p>As for a one-year delay, I&#8217;m not sure that&#8217;s in Republicans&#8217; interest.  The goal must always be repeal, and nothing that relieves the pressure felt by Democrats should be agreed to except repeal or something that further cripples Obamacare.  Although I agree that keeping Obamacare from completely destroying health insurance is a good idea, in the end we must keep the pressure up until we are free of this hideous power-grab.</p>
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		<title>By: Micha Elyi</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Nov 2013 20:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;In order that voters not fall for single-payer, something better needs to be proposed.
--WW4&lt;/blockquote&gt;


&quot;Single-payer&quot; means &quot;single-denier&quot;.  You don&#039;t seriously believe there&#039;s such a thing as a free lunch, do you?  This president&#039;s preferred form of life-saving or function-restoring surgery is &quot;take a pain pill&quot;.


Remember, the only alternative to the free market is the slave market.  Your &quot;last 30 years of Republican proposals&quot; were little more than foolish RINO attempts to make the chains Democrats sought to forge rest a bit more lightly on you.  Freedom, as troublesome as it is, is the only &quot;something better&quot; available.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>In order that voters not fall for single-payer, something better needs to be proposed.<br />
&#8211;WW4</p></blockquote>
<p>&#8220;Single-payer&#8221; means &#8220;single-denier&#8221;.  You don&#8217;t seriously believe there&#8217;s such a thing as a free lunch, do you?  This president&#8217;s preferred form of life-saving or function-restoring surgery is &#8220;take a pain pill&#8221;.</p>
<p>Remember, the only alternative to the free market is the slave market.  Your &#8220;last 30 years of Republican proposals&#8221; were little more than foolish RINO attempts to make the chains Democrats sought to forge rest a bit more lightly on you.  Freedom, as troublesome as it is, is the only &#8220;something better&#8221; available.</p>
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		<title>By: ReasonOverStupidity</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ReasonOverStupidity]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Nov 2013 19:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Obama is the American Stalin.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama is the American Stalin.</p>
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		<title>By: tagalog</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tagalog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Nov 2013 18:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, but there&#039;s a difference between being able to blame your employer for funding an inferior insurance policy, and trying to get better coverage through labor negotiations, and being covered by a government plan, where there&#039;s no such recourse, and the attitude is &quot;You&#039;re lucky to be getting what you&#039;re getting.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, but there&#8217;s a difference between being able to blame your employer for funding an inferior insurance policy, and trying to get better coverage through labor negotiations, and being covered by a government plan, where there&#8217;s no such recourse, and the attitude is &#8220;You&#8217;re lucky to be getting what you&#8217;re getting.&#8221;</p>
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