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	<title>Comments on: Academic Bolshevism in Israel</title>
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		<title>By: Arf</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Nov 2013 05:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I love Israel -- or at least the idea of it but it is doomed -- mostly by it&#039;s own hand. How utterly sad and sick.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love Israel &#8212; or at least the idea of it but it is doomed &#8212; mostly by it&#8217;s own hand. How utterly sad and sick.</p>
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		<title>By: Hank Rearden</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Nov 2013 11:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s a good point.  I don&#039;t quite know the specifics in Israel - actually not in the US of A either - but maybe &quot;the Right&quot; starts a movement, which it abruptly implements when it is in power - that it is &quot;political&quot; and thus illegitimate for the State to &quot;contaminate&quot; the Humanities and the Social Sciences with State money.  &quot;From now on, in order to promote domestic tranquillity :-), the State can only support activities in the hard sciences - physics, chemistry, biology - and related fields - medicine and engineering.&quot;  Of course the Left will overturn that when they get in, but it is a step.  If the State has some integral supporting role in universities, if, as we would say in the U.S., all Israeli universities are PUBLIC rather than PRIVATE, then the State requires reorganization where a University is either a science/engineering/medicine institution OR a humanities/social science institutions.


It isn&#039;t that any of these thoughts are particularly original, but (1) the State has to stop funding its own destruction and (2) it has to suck it up and take the issue on head-on.  &quot;Are you politicizing the Academy?&quot;  &quot;No.  But we ARE reacting to the fact that it IS politicized.  We, Israel, have no intention of restricting anybody&#039;s free speech, but we are now saying, that as we move into the future, we are not paying FOR speech that is detrimental to the Commonweal.&quot;


 Yeah, they are going to call Israel Nazis.  So what?  They already do!  

And...think how it will warm the hearts of all of us - in Israel and In the US of A - to hear the shrieks of agony from those who despise greed, who treasure equality, and who think their home societies are rotten to the core from their pursuit of profit.  It makes my day just thinking about it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a good point.  I don&#8217;t quite know the specifics in Israel &#8211; actually not in the US of A either &#8211; but maybe &#8220;the Right&#8221; starts a movement, which it abruptly implements when it is in power &#8211; that it is &#8220;political&#8221; and thus illegitimate for the State to &#8220;contaminate&#8221; the Humanities and the Social Sciences with State money.  &#8220;From now on, in order to promote domestic tranquillity :-), the State can only support activities in the hard sciences &#8211; physics, chemistry, biology &#8211; and related fields &#8211; medicine and engineering.&#8221;  Of course the Left will overturn that when they get in, but it is a step.  If the State has some integral supporting role in universities, if, as we would say in the U.S., all Israeli universities are PUBLIC rather than PRIVATE, then the State requires reorganization where a University is either a science/engineering/medicine institution OR a humanities/social science institutions.</p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t that any of these thoughts are particularly original, but (1) the State has to stop funding its own destruction and (2) it has to suck it up and take the issue on head-on.  &#8220;Are you politicizing the Academy?&#8221;  &#8220;No.  But we ARE reacting to the fact that it IS politicized.  We, Israel, have no intention of restricting anybody&#8217;s free speech, but we are now saying, that as we move into the future, we are not paying FOR speech that is detrimental to the Commonweal.&#8221;</p>
<p> Yeah, they are going to call Israel Nazis.  So what?  They already do!  </p>
<p>And&#8230;think how it will warm the hearts of all of us &#8211; in Israel and In the US of A &#8211; to hear the shrieks of agony from those who despise greed, who treasure equality, and who think their home societies are rotten to the core from their pursuit of profit.  It makes my day just thinking about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Father Dacius</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Nov 2013 07:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That is a tactic we would be well advised to  consider in the U.S. if we can ever get a decent group in Washington.  Let them have their ideology, but let us not pay for it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is a tactic we would be well advised to  consider in the U.S. if we can ever get a decent group in Washington.  Let them have their ideology, but let us not pay for it.</p>
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		<title>By: reader</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Nov 2013 23:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There was a sizable communist contingent in Israel at the outset. The irony is that Stalin would never let Israel be otherwise. Ben Gurion actually outmaneuvered (and pissed off) old Joe by marginalizing the commies. But the commies are like roaches - if you don&#039;t clean, you&#039;re guaranteed infestation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was a sizable communist contingent in Israel at the outset. The irony is that Stalin would never let Israel be otherwise. Ben Gurion actually outmaneuvered (and pissed off) old Joe by marginalizing the commies. But the commies are like roaches &#8211; if you don&#8217;t clean, you&#8217;re guaranteed infestation.</p>
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		<title>By: herb benty</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[herb benty]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Nov 2013 19:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Now I see the natural partnership of Marxism/Islam. They both hate Israel, Christianity, freedom, individual rights and responsibility. As much as commies/islamics would deny it, they do worship a god.....Lucifer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now I see the natural partnership of Marxism/Islam. They both hate Israel, Christianity, freedom, individual rights and responsibility. As much as commies/islamics would deny it, they do worship a god&#8230;..Lucifer.</p>
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		<title>By: Raymond_in_DC</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Nov 2013 13:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;A first step in Israel would be to defund universities judged to be acting against the public interest.&quot;

The problem is that some of the same universities with such destructively leftist Humanities and Social Science departments often do terrific work in the sciences - Hebrew U, Tel Aviv U, and yes even BGU. How does one support *that* work without indirectly supporting the leftist clap-trap?

One option for individuals is to support those institutions where any leftist proclivities of instructors or students have less resonance because folks are too busy doing real work - Technion or Weizmann, for example, which focus on engineering, medicine, and scientific research. Or the new university leftist profs love to hate because it&#039;s over the Green Line: Ariel.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;A first step in Israel would be to defund universities judged to be acting against the public interest.&#8221;</p>
<p>The problem is that some of the same universities with such destructively leftist Humanities and Social Science departments often do terrific work in the sciences &#8211; Hebrew U, Tel Aviv U, and yes even BGU. How does one support *that* work without indirectly supporting the leftist clap-trap?</p>
<p>One option for individuals is to support those institutions where any leftist proclivities of instructors or students have less resonance because folks are too busy doing real work &#8211; Technion or Weizmann, for example, which focus on engineering, medicine, and scientific research. Or the new university leftist profs love to hate because it&#8217;s over the Green Line: Ariel.</p>
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		<title>By: Hank Rearden</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hank Rearden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Nov 2013 12:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the end, the underlying impulse of the Left is a mystery.  For instance, where does Bill Ayers&#039; &quot;rage&quot; (his word) against America come from?  


In the U.S. I have come to the conclusion that the great divide in society is between those who did chores as kids and those who didn&#039;t - either because they were too rich or too poor.  I was in college in the 1960&#039;s and remember my almost-literal intake of breath when radicals first threw paint on stonework at the University.  &quot;Don&#039;t they know how much work it will take to get that off?&quot;  The joke was ultimately on me because I didn&#039;t know about sand blasting.  But the point still holds.


The university as we know it came about around 1915 - meaning codified academic freedom.  Of course in Europe, universities have been around since the 1300&#039;s.  But we are dealing now with the post-1915 university.


Free speech, free inquiry are essential to a free society.  But, as Justice Jackson observed in another context &quot;the Constitution is not a suicide pact.&quot;  So also, the university is not a suicide compact.


A first step in Israel would be to defund universities judged to be acting against the public interest.  I know.  It is bringing politics into academics and when the Left is in power they are going to defund our side.  But what other solution is there? 


 I think it is particularly demoralizing for a society under siege like Israel to be paying for its own destruction.  Take the risk.  Defund the Left.  When they get in power they are going to defund us anyway, so the risk is not as great as it appears.  They are going to make our case &quot;hate speech.&quot;  Defunding the Left doesn&#039;t prevent it from making its case.  It doesn&#039;t even prevent it from keeping university chairs.  It just prevents us from paying for it.


In Israel, have the ruling party make decisions on academic funding that are openly political.  Let&#039;s not pretend it is anything else.  Have a committee on academic funding that deliberates in public, on whatever the Israeli equivalent of C-SPAN is.  Let&#039;s not hide.  &quot;Are we defunding people we judge to be undermining the country?&quot;



&quot;You betcha.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the end, the underlying impulse of the Left is a mystery.  For instance, where does Bill Ayers&#8217; &#8220;rage&#8221; (his word) against America come from?  </p>
<p>In the U.S. I have come to the conclusion that the great divide in society is between those who did chores as kids and those who didn&#8217;t &#8211; either because they were too rich or too poor.  I was in college in the 1960&#8242;s and remember my almost-literal intake of breath when radicals first threw paint on stonework at the University.  &#8220;Don&#8217;t they know how much work it will take to get that off?&#8221;  The joke was ultimately on me because I didn&#8217;t know about sand blasting.  But the point still holds.</p>
<p>The university as we know it came about around 1915 &#8211; meaning codified academic freedom.  Of course in Europe, universities have been around since the 1300&#8242;s.  But we are dealing now with the post-1915 university.</p>
<p>Free speech, free inquiry are essential to a free society.  But, as Justice Jackson observed in another context &#8220;the Constitution is not a suicide pact.&#8221;  So also, the university is not a suicide compact.</p>
<p>A first step in Israel would be to defund universities judged to be acting against the public interest.  I know.  It is bringing politics into academics and when the Left is in power they are going to defund our side.  But what other solution is there? </p>
<p> I think it is particularly demoralizing for a society under siege like Israel to be paying for its own destruction.  Take the risk.  Defund the Left.  When they get in power they are going to defund us anyway, so the risk is not as great as it appears.  They are going to make our case &#8220;hate speech.&#8221;  Defunding the Left doesn&#8217;t prevent it from making its case.  It doesn&#8217;t even prevent it from keeping university chairs.  It just prevents us from paying for it.</p>
<p>In Israel, have the ruling party make decisions on academic funding that are openly political.  Let&#8217;s not pretend it is anything else.  Have a committee on academic funding that deliberates in public, on whatever the Israeli equivalent of C-SPAN is.  Let&#8217;s not hide.  &#8220;Are we defunding people we judge to be undermining the country?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;You betcha.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Carlos_Perera</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Nov 2013 12:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Apparently, Israeli universities--except insofar as the main language of instruction is concerned--are identical to American ones in the proselytizing, suicidal hatred of their own societies shown by their &quot;progressive&quot; faculties.  The main difference between their case and ours is that the U. S. is, for the moment anyway, still buffered by geography from imminent annihilation by an implacable enemy; so much for Samuel Johnson&#039;s famous dictum that , &quot;. . . when a man knows he is to be hanged in a fortnight, it concentrates his mind wonderfully.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently, Israeli universities&#8211;except insofar as the main language of instruction is concerned&#8211;are identical to American ones in the proselytizing, suicidal hatred of their own societies shown by their &#8220;progressive&#8221; faculties.  The main difference between their case and ours is that the U. S. is, for the moment anyway, still buffered by geography from imminent annihilation by an implacable enemy; so much for Samuel Johnson&#8217;s famous dictum that , &#8220;. . . when a man knows he is to be hanged in a fortnight, it concentrates his mind wonderfully.&#8221;</p>
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