Islam’s Favorite Infidel

Bosch Fawstin is an Eisner Award-nominated cartoonist currently working on a graphic novel, The Infidel, featuring the anti-jihad superhero, Pigman. The first two chapters are now available in digital comic book form. Bosch’s first graphic novel is Table for One. He is also the author of ProPiganda: Drawing the Line Against Jihad, a print companion to The Infidel.


Why is Adolf Hitler’s Mein Kampf a bestseller in Muslim countries? (See also here.) Why is there an admiration for Hitler, even among “moderate” Muslims in America? Because Muslims and Nazis share one thing in common above all: An unrelenting Jew Hatred. And it’s that base connection that led Nazis and Muslims to work together to exterminate Jews in WW2.

 

  • Mary Sue

    It's also a case of Leftists embracing Islamic allies on principle.

  • Tan

    I agree Mary. As far as I'm aware, one of the origins of Nazism came from Marxism itself, but Hitler tweaked it a big by replacing class hatred with racial hatred. National Socialism is the socialization of the "Aryan Race." Even Communism, like Nazism, was anti-Semitic right from the start. So because they have a common enemy (the Jewish people and those that defend them), it makes sense that the Left would ally with radical Muslims. The Soviet Union was probably the biggest Nazi collaborator out of all the other collaborators combined because they were the reason why the Nazi death camps existed. Check out the documentary called "The Soviet Story" and you'll find out what I'm saying. Or look up Nazi-Soviet Pact on a search engine. And many of the death camps were later captured by the Soviets after WWII. The Soviets also has a history of supporting Palestinian and Islamic terrorism. They supported the PLO and the PFLP, and they also supported Socialist Egypt under Nasser and Sudat. Today the Leftists/Socialists/Communists still support Palestinian and Islamic terrorism just as the Soviets did, and just like Hitler, Muslims regimes like Iran and terrorist groups like Hezbollah mimic Hitler's form of military to this day. As to where neo-Nazis stand with radical Muslims that I'm not sure.

    • Phana24JG

      Excellent post Tan. The fact is that most totalitarian regimes will only use theology or a particular theology if it reinforces their hold on power. For instance medieval monarchs were more than happy to support Christianity, Catholicism in particular, since the popes and bishops of those times were happy to establish symbiotic and/or incestual (sometimes literally) relations with the monarchs.

      The Soviet situation is a little unique in that it utilized an existing antisemitism that existed for years in many Slavic cultures. Many Jews found that some Ukrainians, Poles, Russian, etc., to be far more brutal than the Nazis. With respect to the neo-Nazis, their relationship with Islamists is very limited. They will ally with them on the Jewish/Israel front, but those neo-Nazis with an IQ larger than their shoe size (a small minority), recognize that the Islamists merely hate Jews more than Christians, and if/when they were able to annihilate the Jews, the Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, etc., would be next on the Islamic hit list.

    • PAthena

      The Soviet Union, with Egypt under Gamal Nasser, in Cairo in 1964, invented the "Palestine Liberation Organzation" ("P.L.O."- the name "Liberation Organization" was a standard Soviet Communist term.
      The name "Palestinian" had been synonymous with "Jew" and "Palestine" with "land of the Jews" since the Roman Emperor Hadrian changed the name of Judea to "Palestina" im 135 A.D., after having defeated the last Jewish rebellion under Bar Kochba. That is why, after World War I, Great Britain was awarded the the "Palestine Mandate" to be the "homeland of the Jews."
      After the P.L.O, massacre of the Israeli athletes at the Olympic Games in Munich in 1972, Arabs, enemies of the Jews, became called "Palestinian," the effect of Soviet propaganda.

  • http://frontpage richard sherman

    As Winston Churchill stated so wisely in 1948 in THE GATHERING STORM :…MEIN KAMPF was the new KORAN……

    • US Muslim

      As a Muslim, I can say with confidence that Winston Churchill knew JACK SQUAT when it came to Islam.

      Shall we dismiss the millions of Christian Germans and other peoples all across Europe who happily cooperated with the Nazis in their efforts to exterminate the Jews? Shall we also forget that Albanian, Moroccan and Turkish Muslims helped to PROTECT and SHIELD Jews from being exterminated?

      Not to speak of centuries of transgressions committed by European Christians against their Jewish neighbors…

      • Mary Sue

        That's great that those Muslims there protected and shielded Jews. There were lots of Christians that did the same, particularly in Holland.

        Anti-Semitism among various Christians doesn't have the same roots as the Anti-Semitism espoused by the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem. But the false ideas were traded back and forth between Hitler and the Grand Mufti so that there is now made-for-TV movies in Saudi Arabia that include propaganda like the false idea that the Jews need blood for Matzo. From People. Soylent Matzo.

        There's passages in the Bible that have been misunderstood as "anti-semitic", but I'm not so sure the passages in the Koran or the various Hadith are so fluid in their meanings. Can you come up with an explanation as to why there are Imams who regularly pray for the destruction of the Jews? Some of whom reside right here in North America?!

        • US Muslim

          Those "Imams" are complete morons. I won't even bother having a rational discussion with one of them…I would carry a loaded gun in my pocket before engaging with one of them, just to play it safe.

          It all boils down to knowledge of history and a proper understanding of Scripture. These Imams are the equivalent of quack doctors.

      • davarino

        So your saying Jew hatred/destruction is not taught throughout the muslim world today, and there is no clear teaching in the koran for such either.

        • US Muslim

          I certainly wasn't taught to hate the Jews. But I did encounter hatred of Jews among Christians…it was scary.

          Certain passages in the Qur'an are not kind to Jews. But it isn't exactly unfair or inaccurate, either, for the time period that it was revealed in, and was proven correct. However, the Qur'an also permits marriages between Muslims and Jews, and between Muslims and Christians. Muslims are also obligated to respect Jews and Christians and to not argue with them over religion, except for constructive purposes.

          And let's not forget…when Omar, a supposedly radical follower of Muhammad, became the 2nd Caliph and captured Jerusalem from the Byzantine Christians, he lifted a Byzantine ban on Jewish settlement of Jerusalem. That was when the present-day Jewish quarter there was established.

          • SAM000

            the folks like you will be executed twice by the Mullahs of Iran,
            once , because you are Sunnite and worse than the Jews "for the Mullahs the Sunnite are worse than the JEWS and they should be decapitated and their wealth and females be confiscated".
            And twice, because you like the Jews and you claim that they should be respected,

            BTW, stay away from using the name of OMAR if you go to Iraq, there is a man in Al-Maleki's government who has decapitated "beheaded" more than 1000 IRAQIs who were called OMAR, his name is AL-AMERI , he is the minister of transport in Iraqi government, he was accompanying AL-MALEKI in his official visit to USA, he was welcomed by OBAMA to white house,,,,, Be careful,,,

          • US Muslim

            The mullahs of Iran can kiss my a$$ for all that I care. Or perhaps the lower end of a nuclear fireball launched from Israel…or better still, one or more of their own nukes going off prematurely.

            As far as Obama is concerned, I'm dreaming of the "i" word…

  • MikeWood

    Great image. Maybe the word INFIDEL could be slightly better proportioned so as to look more like Hitler's moustache?

    • http://twitter.com/BoschFawstin @BoschFawstin

      Mike, good eye & funny you should mention that. I mistakenly sent in an earlier draft with the mustache font that wasn't as narrow as it ended up being, and just sent in the final one, which is now above. Also, if you or anyone else is interested, at my blog, I just posted a number of the preliminary drawings that led up to my final one. Check it out here: http://bit.ly/W4NiiK

      • MikeWood

        Thanks Bosch. Will do.

    • http://fawstin.blogspot.com/ Bosch_Fawstin

      Above was the mobile link, here's the desktop one http://bit.ly/VceZ5k

  • Tony

    The feeling was mutual. Behold:

    “Had Charles Martel not been victorious at Poitiers — already, you see, the world had fallen into the hands of the Jews, so gutless a thing is Christianity! — then we should in all probability have been converted to Mohammedanism, that cult which glorifies the heroism and which opens up the Seventh Heaven to the bold warrior alone. Then the Germanic races would have conquered the world. Christianity alone prevented them from doing so.”

    - “Hitler’s Table Talk; 1941-1944" translated by N. Cameron and R.H. Stevens, Enigma Books (1953)

    • US Muslim

      Hitler was a mass-murdering psychopath. Will you take his word over someone who is far more clear-thinking who would contradict what he said here?

      Jews in Spain actually HELPED Muslims from Africa when they invaded Spain. Before then they were being horribly persecuted by the Christian rulers and peoples there. They flourished as a community under Muslim rulers for a LONG time. Centuries later Jews helped to drive out the Muslim rulers in Spain after the latter had become, weak, corrupt, divided and intolerant. The Jews were then rewarded in their efforts by being forced to convert to Christianity or be driven out of Spain, or be horribly put to death for even being suspected of practicing Judaism in secret.

      • κατεργάζομαι

        The Jews of which you speak were persecuted by the Roman Catholic Church – together with resident Muslims, they were forced to convert to Roman Catholicism, or, be expelled or be killed when Spain became united under the Catholic Monarchs King Ferdinand and Isabella in 1492.

        DO inform yourself and read Foxe's Book of Martyrs & the Martyrs' Mirror first published in 1660. – The Martyrs' Mirror differs from Foxe's Book of Martyrs in that it only includes those martyrs which were considered nonresistant, while, Foxe's book does not include many Anabaptist martyrs.

        NOTE: according to what GOD says:
        ~ "Those Who Bless Her (Israel) Will Be Blessed, – And Those Who Curse Her Will Be Cursed " (Genesis 12:2-3)

        ……..Spain's world power was ended shortly after persecuting the Sephardic Jews in accordance to God's Word in Genesis 12:2-3.

        CONTRAST: Of Ishmael, the father of Muslims and his descendants, GOD said this:

        "He (Ishmael) will be a wild donkey of a man, His hand )and his descendents) will be against everyone, And everyone's hand will be against him; And he will live to the east of all his brothers." Gen 16:12 NASB

        • US Muslim

          Ishmael was also blessed by God, according to Genesis, unlike Canaan who was cursed by Noah. Many Jewish rabbis living in Spain while it was ruled by Muslims agreed that Muhammad was God's promise to Ishmael fulfilled.

      • Mary Sue

        Yeah, ok, that's great. There are Muslims who are not antisemites, and christians who are not antisemites. I don't think anyone here would argue that every person that calls themselves Muslim automatically hates Jews.

        But the antisemitism among those claiming Islam is disturbingly frequent. How do you explain that?

        • US Muslim

          Ignorance.

          Most Muslims know Islam from what their parents taught them or what hired mullahs taught them. I was taught some of the most important things in my life by my parents. But not everything they taught me was correct from a truly "Islamic" standpoint. I realized this after I started to read the Qur'an for myself at age 15.

          Since then my mind has expanded greatly. From reading and studying the Qur'an and history over many years. From talking about all sorts of things with Jews, Christians, atheists, etc. So I would say with confidence that I have become a far stronger Muslim as a result of my studies, my contacts and my experiences, all the while being true to what I consider to be most important and sacred in Islam: The Oneness of God, with Muhammad as His servant and His messenger, as was Jesus, Moses, Abraham, Isaac, Ishmael, Jacob, Joseph, etc.

          • SAM000

            Now, you should be executed three-twice,
            Who has permitted you to read the Koran???, Koran should be read by the Ayatollahs who represent GOD in the earth and be re taught to the subjects by the representative of GOD,,, who are you to dare to transgress the rules of AYATOLLAHS???!!!

          • US Muslim

            Good grief, man, put your crack pipe down.

            Where in the world did you get the notion that only "ayatollahs" are permitted to read and interpret the Qur'an? First of all, "ayatollahs" are Shiite. Shiites comprise of less than 20% of the world's Muslims. Second, I'm a Sunni Muslim…the majority of Muslims (80%) are Sunni. We don't have any equivalent of "ayatollahs". And we are free to read, study and interpret the Qur'an in any way we choose, and seek guidance from God through prayer while doing so.

            "Much to learn, you have." – Yoda

  • joe

    It's no mystery .
    Both got rich from stealing everything the Jews owned and killing them.The same as the Inquisition and every European country did.

    Germans are meticulous record keepers so there is alot of info about this.
    Mosques in Syria & Turkey broadcast readings of Mein Kampf when Hitler was in power. Himmler and the mufti had plans to build concentration camps in Palestine .
    Over 2000 Nazis fled persecution to the ME,most ending up in Egypt and joining the MB.

    The word Aryan comes from the Assyrians who lived in the ME,not Germans.

    The real kicker is about 1/5 of muslims and Hitler are Jews. They all carry the distinctive Jewish DNA Haplotypes. Millions of Jews were forced to convert to Islam if they wanted to live. You can change the religion but not the DNA.

    • Mary Sue

      actually, the "Aryans", if I'm not mistaken, are actually in India.

      • G. Smith

        In Iran – the word means Aryan.

        • Mary Sue

          Well there too, of course, the area encompasses a large region. But genetically speaking there are "Aryans" in India.

          • mlcblog

            I also have a different origin from Assyrians. That is not correct.

          • Mary Sue

            well, that's what I was taught in school, that the actual "Aryans" are in India…*shrug*

          • nina

            And I suppose that you would be right, as the Aryans made many incursions into India. So many would have remained there. The Persian language, by the way is Arian.

    • Cecilie

      I thought the word Aryan derived from the word Iran.

  • Chanameel

    Obama is going to make Hitler look like Side Show Bob.

  • Cat K

    Re: DNA sometimes there's just nowhere to run to and no way to run.

  • http://www.clarespark.com Clare Spark

    People in the West may be tired about Hitler and his ideology, but we do so at our peril. See http://clarespark.com/2011/06/19/index-to-links-o…. “Hitler and the Big Lie” in four segments.

  • κατεργάζομαι

    RE: Islam’s Favorite Infidel – HITLER!

    Same daddy. SATAN is not Divided.

    • US Muslim

      By such logic, one would have to conclude that Satan is "DADDY" to ALL of us, including you and me.

      But I know better.

      • κατεργάζομαι

        Replying to US Muslim: "….. one would have to conclude that Satan is "DADDY" to ALL of us, including you and me…..

        No sir. My "Daddy" is Jesus and He defeated Satan on the Cross in fulfillment of over 200 Messianic Prophecies.

        Your "holy" chronicle is an "un-inspired" jumble that lacks higher intelligence. It is also rife with error. It is both filled with hate, and inane babbling…..just like you.

        Did you know that Mohammmad was illiterate? That means that he was unable to pen his own so called, "holy" writings.

        • US Muslim

          In case you haven't noticed, Satan is still around and counts on those who thinks he was "defeated" to unwittingly carry out his dirty work.

          Please point out anything that I have said here that is hateful. I don't hate Jews or Christians or people who aren't Muslims. I don't hate the Bible at all. Do you hate anyone? Do you hate me? Do you hate Islam? Muhammad? The Qur'an? Muslims? Who's the real "hateful" person here?

          How many books do you know that were authored by an illiterate person?

          Satan is a lot closer to you than you would be comfortable with. I know him. I know what he wants from us but he's not getting what he wants from me. I hear him knocking on the door to your heart.

          • κατεργάζομαι

            Yes, yes, the argument goes; Ludwig van Beethoven was deaf and Classical Greek poet Homer was blind and hence couldn't read or write either. bravo!

            Why is it that Muslims continue to repeat the same old belly dance that has already been answered so many times?

            Tell us….USMuslim, What is the real Quran?

            Even – "Hudhaifa was afraid of their differences in the recitation of the Qur'an…Uthman sent to every Muslim province one copy of what they had copied, and ordered that all the other Qur'anic materials, whether written in fragmentary manuscripts or whole copies, be burnt"
            ~ (Hadith, Vol. 6, Book 61, #510).

            IF MO-hammud was illiterate, and, – if there were so many other copies of his transliterations that were destroyed of such a prophet who relied on others to maintain his "X",

            ….THEN it could well be supported: NO one knows what the real Quran said.

            But then, ardent followers seem Illiterate, Deaf, BLIND, and not to care about reality.

            ORIGINAL POST: Same daddy. SATAN is not Divided. PROOF.

          • US Muslim

            "What is the real Quran? "
            How about…the copy that you can get just about anywhere nowadays??

            Besides, you picked and chose what you wanted to believe here and disregarded the rest that seemed too inconvenient. It's the same old attack story from those who can't defend their own weak, illogical, irrational, superstitious beliefs.

            Tell me…if I happen to believe in the One True God, the Owner of this world and all other worlds out there, the Infinite, the Timeless, the All Powerful, does that make me "Illiterate, Deaf, BLIND, and not caring about reality"?? Tell me…what IS reality to someone as wise and learned as you are?? The God I worship isn't bound by His creation. Is the "god" that you worship any different?? You know, I'm not afraid of my fellow man when it comes to choosing which religion I wish to follow. If I wasn't satisfied with Islam, I would have left Islam a long time ago…my first choice would have been Judaism. But that would mean that I would have to reject both Jesus as well as Muhammad, and I happen to love them both too much.

            I'm perfectly happy and at peace being a Muslim and couldn't care less about what you believe in. You wanna worship the graven image of some guy you claim to be "god" impaled on a cross, that's entirely up to you.

            But you obviously are not happy with me being a Muslim. One explanation is that you've got some sort of psychological problem, due to the fact that your own faith in whatever you believe is weak…just like the mullahs. And like the mullahs, you need to lash out at those who believe differently from you.

            Besides, you failed to answer my questions from my previous posts. And it's obvious why…everyone here can see why.

          • κατεργάζομαι

            Replying to US Muslim Re: (QUOTE) Besides, you failed to answer my questions from my previous posts.

            AND, – Satan's Original Straw Man Lie was this…..,

            "God did not REALLY say………" (Don't eat of the fruit)

            Just like SATAN, – you keep changing the discourse and introducing Straw Man Fallacies to embellish your perfidy.

            ….you are a shiney son of your Daddy's tactics, US Muslim.

          • US Muslim

            Is that all you've got? That's weak…and pathetic.

            "Just like SATAN you keep changing the discourse and introducing Straw Man Fallacies"

            Are you speaking to yourself here? You are a classic example of the pot calling the kettle black.

            "Before you pluck the grit from thine neighbor's eye, pluck it from thine own eye first"

            Do you know who said that? Hint: It wasn't Satan.

            You can't defend your beliefs. That's why you must attack mine to feel relevant.

            Tsk…

      • Mary Sue

        have you not heard, "By their fruits ye shall know them"?

        • US Muslim

          Of course I have. It makes perfect sense.

      • mlcblog

        It is true. We are weak unregenerate flesh and need the salvation of a loving true God.

  • Ghostwriter

    Why am I not surprised at this?

  • john Stone

    There is more Fractured Fairytale history in this thread than is usual for FrontPageMag. Let me tell you about Hitler.

    Hitler was not a consistent thinker. His great obsession, eventually, was that the Jews were the worst and the most capable of people, and therefore the most dangerous. The Germans were the best, and all other non Jewish races were inferior to the Germans and should be led by the master race, the Germans. He also thought the Jews we collaborating with non Germans with the intend of exterminating of the German race. For Hitler history was one long struggle between good and evil, German and Jew.

    He also thought that only he had the iron will needed to exterminate the Jews and that put a certain urgency into his war plans. He had to get the war won and the Jews exterminated in his own lifetime. Otherwise the Germans were likely to lose and be exterminated by the Jews.

    Adolph Hitler imagined an idyllic pre history and to some extent wanted to return to it, usually in the form of idyllic farming communities that he intended to establish in the east, after relocating or exterminating the local populations. This was mixed in with an the idea of the Germans as the best expression of the best race, the Arians. He plainly thought of Arians as Nordic, because in Nazi propaganda the men were blue eyed, large boned, blond Scandinavian types. The women were similar, but more filled out, kind of like a Rubens painting. As a functional reality, most any non Jew German language speaker got a pass as German regardless of looks.

    In my opinion, Adolph Hitler went nuts in the early 1920’s. Prior to that he had some dislike of Jews. He disliked them in part because he saw them as a vanguard of capitalism, which was essentially true, and he also saw them as a foreign presence inside Germany. Hitler also aspired to be a painter and lost an important painting contest to a Jew, which may have been part of his animus.

    The Jews were on the political left in both Germany and the USSR, and they made up an important part of the early communist movement. For this reason Hitler always saw communism as a Jewish movement and thought the Jews were using the non Jews in communist countries as a tool to destroy the Arian race. He got around the problem that Stalin eventually liquidated the communist Jews by simply never taking note that it happened. In Hitler’s mind the communists were Jew led, and so was America. Not only was FDR alleged to have Jewish blood, but the US was also capitalist, which was another indication of a Jewish presence.

    And just so nobody is confused here about capitalism. Hitler was against capitalism but never got rid of it. The German war machine was fed by a capitalist industry, with you know, a little slave labor thrown in.

    Hitler’s alliance with Stalin was one of convenience from both sides. We now have it confirmed because of Glasnost that Stalin would have eventually attacked Germany had Germany not moved first. I think it reasonable to suppose that Hitler’s alignment with Turkey, Islam, and the Japanese was of a similar sort.

    • US Muslim

      FYI, Turkey remained neutral for much of WWII, as did Spain. Both were safe havens for Jews fleeing Europe. Turkey even gave Jews a safe passageway to British Palestine..

      • Mary Sue

        Yeah once they busted down the Ottoman Empire in WW I, Turkey started being normal.

        • US Muslim

          Actually, the Turks had not been known to be anti-Jewish…anti Christian, perhaps, to some extent, but NOT anti-Jewish. The Ottomans had allowed Jews fleeing pogroms in Europe to settle in their lands. Most lived in peace for hundreds of years and remained free of blood-libels hurled at their fellow Jews in Christian Europe. The first such incident in the Ottoman Empire supposedly took place in Damascus in 1848, most likely at the instigation of local Christians there. Historically, Christians and Jews have not gotten along up until after Israel was established.

          • SAM000

            US Muslim; please, here you don't make sense, the Genocide of one Millions Armenians at 1905 by Kamal Pasha of Turkey was not based on hate?!!, perhaps the Turks loved them so much that killed them, you know, sometimes one can kill his love by love,,,

          • Anshal Shir

            "he saw them as a vanguard of capitalism"
            " For this reason Hitler always saw communism as a Jewish movement"

            The above from John Stone's post above.
            Which only goes to show that Jews are too right – too left – too ostentatiously rich – too filthy dirty poor – They are too smart – they are too stupid.- too strong – too weak – they should go home to 'palestine' – they should go 'home' to Poland.
            This is how genocide becomes too easy – because there is simply no place a Jew can be.
            If Jews ever live in safety in Muslim countries, it is at the whim of the current ruler. Pay the jizyah. Live as a dhimmi. Remember your place. As long as you are subjugated to sharia you may get away with it. But aspire to be a Jewish people in a Jewish land?
            Uh oh – you crossed the line. Because, as with the Nazis, the easiest way to deal with the Jewish problem is to delegitimize them. Home or away – it's the same play.

          • US Muslim

            According to Sharia, non-Muslims CANNOT be subject to Sharia Law. Only men were required to pay the Jiziya; women were not. There were at least 2 ways of getting out of Jiziya: 1) To convert to Islam, which would have then subjected the person to follow Sharia Law and to be conscripted into the military (non-Muslims were not required to join the military), or 2) Remain a non-Muslim and join up with the military. Many Jews living in the Syria-Palestine region when it was conquered by Muslim Arabs did one or the other.

          • US Muslim

            Please read my post again.

            With regard to the Armenians, you will need to read up more on this. What was done to the Armenians was terrible. But there was a lot of politicking and going back and forth which ultimately led to massacres of innocent men, women and children. Do I support it? Of course not. Was there hatred involved? Of course. And many Muslims were also opposed to what happened to the Armenians, and several Turkish leaders who were involved in it were indicted afterwards for the carnage.

            Happy?

          • john Stone

            Just taking a wild guess, perhaps the Ottomans used the Jews to help administer their empire. That sort of thing is fairly common because an ethnic minority will not normally align with the local population, making them more trustable. Of course when the worm turns and somebody else comes to power it can be a bad business. Also, the Jews were also often a merchant class for the same reason. As outsiders they could do it better.

          • US Muslim

            They probably did…and were loyal citizens of the Ottoman Empire to boot. Unlike Christians in the empire who were looked at with suspicion, rightfully or otherwise, of being agents for foreign Christian nations, Jews didn't have a state that they could be loyal to outside of the empire. And besides, they didn't get along with the Christians within the empire. And the Christians there didn't seem to like them, either…

      • nina

        US Muslim, knows history. It is true that there were times when it was much safer for Jews to live in Muslim countries like Turkey and Egypt, than in most European countries.It also seems true that the Pogrom in Damascus was instigated by Christians. Yes. Actually, Franco was of Jewish extraction, as are about 20% of Spaniards.

        • US Muslim

          Thank you.

    • aspacia

      Valid source regarding you claims john stone? I am a historian, and know Hitler practiced the scapegoat tactics, as so many leaders with failing economies do, to divert attention to the failed Weimar State. This happened in Argentina and the Falkland invasion, and is currently occurring in the ME with all the Islamic failed, poverty riddled states.

      No, I do not buy into you theory and would like you to provide more evidence.

      • john Stone

        What I know about Adolph Hitler arises from a personal curiosity that has caused me to read books on Hitler and on WWII. As I have not been taking notes along the way I can not reference you to chapter and verse. But on the other side of it we may not disagree. Nazis prior to the start of the war were into scapegoating Jews for political reasons.

        The Nazis appealed to traditional, nationalist Germans and their Jewish scapegoat efforts were directed at appeasing German pride over the loss of WWI. They claimed that some Jewish bankers had talked the Kiser into surrendering, an interpretation of actual events. They also claimed that Jews in the trade unions had disrupted the war effort with strikes. This was accurate but of minor importance to the war effort. The response from the other side was to show that the Jewish Germans had participated as good Germans in the war effort, which was also accurate.

        They had no need to scapegoat the bad financial conditions because they disliked the Weimar Republic and were an internal opposition party. They had little in the way of a policy role until after Hitler came to power, and after that the greatly boosted war spending effort turned the economy around.

        The during the Weimar period, the Germans wanted only so much anti-Semitism and the Nazi party pretty plainly used being anti-Semitic as a political device. When they went to far and got public disproval, they would pull back for political reasons.

        The proof that Hitler was psychotically anti-Semitic comes after WWII started. By this time he had complete control of the media and could say whatever he wanted to say. As a result, what the Nazis did to Jews at this point no longer had a propaganda purpose. In effect, their was a disconnect between what the Nazis did and what they said, eliminating the need to act out against Jews except in minor ways for the sake of display. None the less, this was also the period when they made the greatest effort to exterminate Jews. Instead of a means of consolidating political power, anti-Semitism became a wound that the Nazis inflicted on themselves. For example:

        When you start a war you need medical resources. A lot of German doctors were Jewish and Hitler got rid of all of them, depriving his side of medical resources during a period of great need.

        The outcome of the first year of the war against the USSR hinged on transport. The Nazi army could defeat the Russians, but they lacked the transport necessary to get the troops and equipment to the Eastern Front quickly enough. During this period he had his best troops, the SS, scurrying around Eastern Europe hunting down partisans at first, and they fairly quickly turned to hunting down Jews. Both the hunting down of the Jews and the moving of them to the death camps wasted transportation resources. That is, during a desperate war effort against the Soviets, he diverted war resources to killing Jews in an effort that had no propaganda purpose.

        Naturally the effort to kill Jews wound down as their were fewer Jews to kill, but throughout the war the Nazis killed every Jew they could, as witnessed by the concentration camps that were liberated by the allies. And none of this had a military or propaganda purpose.

        So, I don’t know, what more could Hitler have done to prove that he sincerely hated Jews, you know, aside from killing every last Jew he possibly could?

        • nina

          Quite a rational explanation. But something doesn't smell right. Kaiser and Germans capitalized, but Jews in lower caste? Hmm…

      • SAM000

        aspacia; I agree with you , I think that your reasoning is based, I am Iranian, we are not anti Jews , the Islamic regime in Iran is not able to resolve the economics and social crisis, so, the Mullahs try to put the problem on the shoulder of an external cause, the ANTI-Jew by tradition were always an scapegoat for the corrupted and dictator regimes.
        The 8 years war with Iraq was under the slogan of "Saddam the Zionist" for the Mullahs.
        In the other hand, the man's psychology never eliminates his inferiors, the man eliminates his superior or the one's who can put his privileges in danger.
        So, I think that Hitler eliminated the Jews as you mentioned and Hitler were afraid from the Jews, and he was feeling that he is from an inferior race regarding to the Jews.

        • nina

          Jews, external in Iran? They only lived there for 2500 years. In other respects you are correct.

  • xavier823

    That Hitler is popular in Muslim countries should not be a surprise. Hitler was homicidal racist and the religion of Islam promotes homicidal racism.

    • US Muslim

      FYI, Hitler is also popular among non-Muslims in countries like India. Check it out for yourself. Stalin is taught in textbooks as some sort of hero over there…I know this from my own experience.

      • Mary Sue

        Considering that the true "Aryans" come from places that include India, I'm not actually surprised about that.

        • Indus Valley

          Mary Sue…I disagree with you in this…You won't find people claiming to be true Aryans or something in India….Still Indians in the academic circle are debating about the Aryan invasion theory…..The north-south divide in India is more based on the languages(Indo-Aryan & Dravidian languages)….Language plays an important role in Indian society beside caste & religion…..

          • john Stone

            The historically defined European races are actually linguistic groups. You are French or German or whatever because you speak the language. Also, Caucasian might be a better word here. Aryan is a more vague and limited subset of Caucasian. I do not think India is commonly regarded as Aryan.

          • Mary Sue

            Well, blame Canadian Education then, because that's where I learned that.

        • SAM000

          Mary Sue, please, the Indians are not at all Aryans Race, I am a pure Aryan, I am AZARI which is the oldest Aryan Race, we never hate the Jews, our Great KOROSH the GRAND who is considered a Liberation Prophet in Torate by the Jews was the liberator of the Jews at Babylon 549 B.J.C.
          Hitler was not Aryans, there is no relationship between Austria and PERSIA and Aryans HEART or FIREHOUSE (AZERBAIJAN).
          We have more than 12,000 years of written history, we were Zarathustratian , and light and Fire was sacred for us, 1400 years ago we were invaded by the Arabs and we were forced to become Muslim, but we stayed solider with our tradition, we hate HITLER, we hate the DIRTY RACE OF NAZISM and more the Mullahs, We will exterminate the race of the Mullahs, but you the westerners have to take your own responsibilities, I do not agree with all the US Muslim's claims but what he writes about the Europeans anti Jews and pro Nazism is correct, he is not exaggerating, he is right.

          Now, the greatest supporters of the Islamism and the Mullahs are the Europeans.
          The Germans and Austrians are the best partners of the Mullahs, so the danger and antisemitism of the Muslim world will be over with the regime change in Iran, but you have to think about the growing NEO-NAZIISM in Europe.

      • Indus Valley

        Hitler is popular in India because. During WW2 India was fighting against the British Raj. Since Hitler considered Britain as his enemy, the then newly formed Indian National Army(INA) by Netaji Subhash Chandra Bose to fight against the British Raj opposing the Gandhian way of non-violence considered Hitler as an ally. Many of the Indians think the mighty Britain was challenged by Hitler….Its like enemy's enemy, apart from that the INA was so naive that time to realise that Hitler also thought that all non-Germans are racially inferior to the German race & that includes the Indians too…Hitler is not admired in India for killing the Jews as the way he is admired in the Islamic countries….There is a huge difference in that….

        • US Muslim

          There were countless Indians, Muslims as well as Hindus, who fought side by side alongside regular British soldiers against the Axis powers. Most did so willingly; many never came back alive. Many were tortured to death by Japanese soldiers in Burma and elsewhere in SE Asia. Others faced the German war machine in the battlefields of Europe and were recognized for their bravery in battle.

          I am, for the most part, proud of the accomplishments of Indian colonial soldiers during WWII. Except for those "Muslims" among them who later became officers in the Pakistani Armed Forces and butchered my people back in 1971.

      • mlcblog

        Does that make Hitler better?

        • US Muslim

          How is that supposed to make Hitler better? He was what he was…a mass-murdering psychopath. But I believe Stalin was worse. Stalin killed a lot more people than Hitler did, and had he lived longer, he might have carried out a second Holocaust against Jews that would have made Hitler's Holocaust look like a picnic.

  • tanstaafl

    Evil is evil.

    • I'm Having a…

      D'ya think?! Evil comes in many forms. Some more deceptive than others. Hitler was an expert at this 'black art'.

  • Anamah

    Both are supremacist, violent haters, and suffer of sever hallucinations.

    • US Muslim

      Unlike you?

      • Mary Sue

        Well, you can't deny that the Grand Mufti, and all those who believe in Anti-semitism in the same manner that he did, are in fact Supremacist haters of the worst, most violent and delusional kind.

        • US Muslim

          He was. I agree. And we can all thank the British authorities of the time for installing him there…not even the local Arabs wanted him there. Perhaps the British thought they could use him. But they lost control of the situation there and by the time they tried to correct/cover up their blunders, the damage had been done and rendered virtually irreversible.

      • RedWhiteAndJew

        Exactly unlike Anamah, yes.

        • US Muslim

          Well, she's wrong.

          • RedWhiteAndJew

            No, she is not.

          • US Muslim

            She is, as are you. You can't change my mind and I won't change yours.

            We can go on back and forth on this but I don't want to waste your time or mine. I'm no supremacist of Muslims. I do believe, however, that Islam has guided me to be closer to God and closer to the ultimate truth. To me, all other religions ultimately lead to Islam.

            That's just my point of view. If you find that to be delusional or threatening, you're not alone…members of al Qaida feel the same way about my beliefs. They'll come after me before they come after you.

          • RedWhiteAndJew

            In short, you're wrong, and she's right.

          • US Muslim

            I don't expect anything of substance from a broken record. Just 'cos you say so doesn't make her or you right.

            I still believe I'm right and that you're both wrong. Is there anything that you can say or do that would convince me otherwise? Tell me what she's right about and I will take apart your arguments before you if she happens to be wrong. And if she's right, I will admit that she is. Now go ahead…please explain what she's right about and why.

          • RedWhiteAndJew

            Go ahead and believe you're right. You are wrong, as with the rest of the beliefs you cling to. I have no desire to need to convince you otherwise. If the world around you doesn't, you are impervious to reason.

            You're still wrong, though.

          • US Muslim

            I see…you say I'm wrong, but you don't say what I'm wrong about or why. I wonder why?
            I'll give you another chance to prove me wrong before everyone in this forum. Please make a list of all my beliefs and why each of them is wrong, and what the truth really is. We might all learn something here from you. Let us have a glimpse of the wisdom that you claim to have that I obviously don't have.

          • RedWhiteAndJew

            Well, she's wrong.

            You were saying?

  • anna-infidel

    http://frontpagemag.com/2013/bosch-fawstin/islams

    Hitler and Jihad (Part 1) http://www.andrewbostom.org/blog/2008/10/22/hitle

    Pictures:
    The convergence of jihadism and Nazism: al-Mashriqi (left), and Hitler (right) with Hajj Amin el-Husseini (center)

    [...]
    "…Perhaps the earliest recorded evidence of Hitler’s serious interest in the jihad was provided by Muhammad ‘Inayat Allah Khan [who adopted the pen name “al-Mashriqi”—“the Orientalist” or “the Sage of the East”]… .

    " he met Hitler in the early years of the Fuehrer’s leadership of the National Socialist [Nazi] Party. Their meeting took place

    in 1926 (!) at the National Library (Berlin). Here is the gist of Mashriqi’s report on his interaction with Hitler as described in a letter to the renowned scholar of Indian Islam, J.M.S. Balj

    "… I was astounded when he [Hitler] told me that he knew about my Tazkirah.

    ("… Hitler said, pointing to a book that was lying on the table: “I had a chance to read your al-Tazkirah.”…)

    The news flabbergasted me. . . I found him very congenial and piercing.

    He discussed Islamic Jihad with me in details. In 1930 I sent him my Isharat concerning the Khaksar movement with a picture of a spade-bearer Khaksar at the end of that book. In 1933 he [Hitler] started his Spade Movement. …"

    Mashriqi also wrote this independent summary of his 1926 encounter with Hitler …."
    [...]
    _______________________________

    Qu'ran Jihad Mohamad <-> (Mein) Kampf -Hitler

    Mohamad Supremacism <-> Hitler Supremacism

    Khaksar Movement Spade Bearer 1930 [picture] <-> 1933 Hitler started his Spade Movement

    Mohamad: War and Genocid (Jews, Christians, Buddhists,…)

    <-> Hitler: War and Genocid (Jews, Christians,….)

    Hitler the evil psychotic plagiator of the evil psychotic Mohamad-Killer-Monster

    • US Muslim

      You're beyond stupid.

      If Muhammad and his followers had wanted to wipe out all non-Muslims from the lands that they conquered from Spain to India, they would have done it easily. But they did not. Can you explain why? I'm waiting with bated breath for your explanation…

  • anna-infidel

    sorry,…..Genocide….

  • I'm Having a…

    Hitler was a Roman Catholic. I think that says it all.

    • john Stone

      That "says it all" only if you do not give a rip about fact. Adolph was in training to be priest early on, but dropped away. He eventually rejected Christianity and tried to displace it with what were alleged to be
      pre-Christian German beliefs. Ceremony for ceremony the Nazis produced replacements for the Christian practice. Christ was linked with the Jews as a Rabbi and the more extreme Nazi propaganda argued that Christianity was a plot against Germany. The notions of universal humanity were seen as an effort to soften up the Germans for conquest.

      To keep the Christians in Germany under control, Hitler seized all the church incomes and then gave the priests a salary from the German state. To quote Hitler, "They will do whatever we want for their miserable salary."

      • AgapeBlues

        Good lesson…we need to keep vigilant in our own country.

      • I'm Having a…

        I do 'give a rip about fact', as you put it. My point is that Roman Catholicism is NOT Christianity. It never has been, nor will it never will be. Hitler was, how shall I say, a text book example of RC. The wolf in sheep's clothing. RC to a 't'. Your allusion to 'pre-Christian' is relevant insomuch not just for Germany. Read your Bible – Book of Revelation; ch17. It is all there. It speaks of the Whore of Babylon. The 'Whore' is not only the Catholic religion but the place it resides (Rome). The Vatican.

        Hitler was another in a long line of Catholic 'Whores'. Read Rev: ch17 and see it for yourself. Don't take my word for it.

        Oh, and there are many more apostates to come. One of them just won a second term and resides in the White House. Catch my drift?

      • κατεργάζομαι

        Replying to john Stone – Agreed. Hitler was not "a Christian". Kindly define your Soteriology.

        Soteriology is the study of the doctrine of salvation. It is derived from the Greek word soterious which means salvation and it has vastly different meanings in Europe (as well as America's post modernism).

        • john Stone

          My soteriology is that I do not think there is life after death and if there is, if you will pardon the pun, it will be a hell of a surprise for me. Additionally, I see myself as unlikely to pick up religion out of fear of death, because I have no idea what god (or gods?) wants if there is a god. I also doubt he would be impressed by an insincere conversion, so there is not much point in me pretending to be a convert.

          And perhaps it would be damaging for me to convert, because who knows, he may prefer people with a capacity for skepticism ahead of all the credulous folk who think they can win his favor by sucking up to him. Do the credulous ill informed get to the head of the line because they have the greatest capacity for faith?

    • Mary Sue

      Not at the end, he wasn't. He morphed into some sort of pagan around the time his whacky beliefs came along.

    • imoira

      Hitler hated Christians. Nazism was pagan.
      "In January 1942, The New York Times, certainly not now and not really even then a particular friend of Christianity, published a thirty-point program listing the central dogmas of the National Reich Church, a body established by the Nazis to replace Christianity and to eliminate Christian ideas from the next generation of young Germans. It's significant that the Times published this, because if such an internationally important newspaper was aware of Nazism's hatred of Christianity, we can be sure it was a known and accepted fact elsewhere. …"
      I am quoting from page 116 of Michael Coren's really good book Heresy: Ten Lies They Spread About Christianity (McClelland & Stewart, 2012). Chapter V addresses the very lie that you are trying to spread.
      From the program of dogma, this is the final statement:
      "On the day of the foundation of the National Reich Church the Christian cross shall be removed from all churches, cathedrals, and chapels inside the frontiers of the Reich and its colonies and will be replaced by the symbol of invincible Germany – the swastika."
      (page 118 of Coren's book)

  • RedWhiteAndJew

    For 60 cents, I picked up a copy of this seminal work at a second-hand bookseller. Been trying to find a time to read it.

    The Mufti and the Fuehrer

    • I'm Having a…

      Any chance you can scan and email me a copy? I know it is a very big ask, but I ain't paying $50 for it from Ama(rip-off)zon. If you agree, I'll post my email address here.

      There's no obligation for you to reply at all. However, I am a firm believer in the saying; "If you don't ask, you don't get".

      Kind regards.

      • RedWhiteAndJew

        It is an interesting idea. The author has passed away, and the book appears to be long out of print. It would take some time, but I believe I have the means at my disposal to scan and perform character recognition on the book. I will inquire with a lawyer friend of mine, as to the legality of doing so. If I were to do this, I would seek to disseminate it widely on the internet; possibly via BitTorrent.

        • I'm Having a…

          Very good. I look forward to hearing of any solutions / ideas.

          The book sounds like it is an absolute must-read.

        • Mary Sue

          I think it's supposedly OK, according to US copyright law, as long as the Author's been dead for more than 70 years. But yeah, check to make sure.

        • Mary Sue

          Or another option is ask the estate of the author for permission. You just might get it, if the 70 or so some odd years have not passed.

  • WilliamJamesWard

    The World could have been formed into a Nazi prison, that having failed the Islamists are
    on track to impose thier brand of slavery on every person everywhere and coming to a new
    mosque in your neighborhood, Mullah Obama insists……………..William

  • Richard Ogden

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  • SAM000

    Holocaust Film to Be Broadcast to Iran BY THE RESISTANCE TV of MeK,
    “This is a big thing,” Rabbi Hier said in a telephone interview this week. “Iran is the center of denial of the Holocaust in the entire world.”
    New York Times
    Sunday, January 27, 2013 http://carpetbagger.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/01/25/….

    • Ghostwriter

      If Hitler were alive today,the current regime in Iran would be fawning all over this monster,just as they have before.

      • SAM000

        If Hitler was alive, he would follow the Mullahs regime, Hitler can be considered as a civilized Mullah , may be the argument is weak , but try to imagine Hitler on ISLAMIST, then , maybe we can figure out the Islamist MONSTER.

  • Jason

    Interesting but Muslims have a grudge or hatred for everyone and even themselves as they cannot live in peace with anyone because they think they are superior over all beings but under Allah.

    • US Muslim

      You're wrong. How many Muslims do you personally know? You sound like a Nazi yourself.

  • ddd

    Nuke 'em, please!

    • John Reese

      A very cogent presentation, correct in the essentials. Be it noted, however, that Hitler was profoundly a man of the Left. He and Stalin greatly admired one another and there is a strong possibility that Hitler saved his fellow dictator from overthrow by Tukachevsky and the Soviet generals in 1937. Hitler and Stalin were not enemies so much as competitors.

  • Karl Stein

    The Muslim's favorite infidel might be Barak Obama. If he was raised as a Muslim and then changed to some form of Christianity, then he is an apostate and subject to killing according to the Koran. Why are there not Muslim death threats against him?

  • Nuhu

    The danger facing the world is the lot who have a strong hatred for others having 'the other view'.

  • US Muslim

    To RedWhiteAndJew:

    “Well, she’s wrong”

    Is that it? Very well, here goes.

    So I’m wrong about Anamah saying “Both are supremacist, violent haters, and suffer of sever hallucinations.” She was referring to Hitler and Muhammad, right?

    Muhammad was not known to have suffered from hallucinations. That was a myth manufactured by unwashed, moronic, Medieval Europeans who HATED Muslims…oooh, did I just say “hated”??

    Please enlighten us: What was so hateful and supremacist about Muhammad’s behavior? He wasn’t anti-Jewish in nature. At one point he even berated a Muslim who was arguing with a Jew on who was greater as a prophet. As for the Jewish tribes that were vanquished from Medina and then from Khaybar, it was only after he had confirmation that they had broken pledges that they had made with him earlier, and/or presented a military threat to him and his followers. Better check your history…nobody’s history is “pure” in any way.