Political Careers That Live By Sick Words Die By Sick Words

Look at Ron Paul’s reaction to the killing of mass murderer Osama bin Laden and then his reaction to the murder of heroic Navy Seal Chris Kyle to understand the extent of his animus towards America. I can’t believe I’m about to write this, but Ron Paul, at times, makes even Obama appear presidential.

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  • Parenthetical Phrase

    Bosch, this was perfect. Thank you.

    • http://fawstin.blogspot.com/ Bosch_Fawstin

      Appreciate that.

  • Fnord

    It's a quote from the bible. He who lives by the sword dies by the sword. It's the damn cold hard truth.

    • WildJew

      Did Islam's prophet die by the sword?

      • SCREW SOCIALISM

        Islams "prophet" went to Hell on the back of a horse.

        Or maybe the horse rode on the back of mohammed?

      • Holland Simms

        Mohammed was actually poisoned

        • SCREW SOCIALISM

          Poisoned like Stalin.

    • Deep Space

      Somehow you've missed the point.

    • ziontruth

      If he had criticized only the sitting Presidents who sent them to die, OK. But Ron Paul didn't. He, like the hard-Leftists he's supposed to be the opposite to, lashed out against the troops. That's no longer political dissent, that's taking the enemy side.

      I'm all for isolationism and not getting mired in fruitless wars (especially not wasting blood and treasure on "nation-building," meaning the futile attempt to civilize Muslim savages), but I know the difference between that and sympathizing with the enemy. Saying your actions have caused your enemies to hate your country—something Paul and the paleocon faux-Right have constantly done—qualifies as this; using the caskets of your country's troops to score political points, even more so, and is unforgivable.

      • SCREW SOCIALISM

        MORON Paul seems to defend the Islamofascist Regime of Iran more than the US.

        I also don't trust his wig wearing son Rand Paul.

    • Mary Sue

      and utterly inappropriate in the context in which he used it.

    • A 23 Year Old Man

      To "live by the sword" is to have your life characterized by violence. It doesn't refer to being a soldier. Ron Paul is no Biblical Originalist, and neither are you, because both of you have misinterpreted the meaning of this verse.

      HAMAS lives by the sword and dies by the sword. Our soldiers are disciplined protectors of our freedom. See the difference?

    • http://twitter.com/jmylive @jmylive

      Fnord, there is a lot of stuff from the Bible that Ron Paul doesn't follow. For example, evil needs to be called out and named, and this schmuck Paul believes that Iran should have a nuke because morally, they are no different than the United States. Ron Paul believes in legalization of immoral actions and behaviors under the guise of "liberty". So don't give me this crap about him following the Bible.

      To do nothing in the face of evil is actually a sin. That is also biblical. Educate yourself. Stop drinking the Ron Paul kool aid.

    • Rhonda

      Kyle was and is a hero, but I agree. While the timing was not the best to quote scripture while we are all grieving for Kyle, these words are God's words. Paul was quoting God. And I'm not a Paul fan.

  • JohnSvengali

    Those who supported Ron Paul had some things in common with liberals. They had a capacity for moral and logical blind spots, as well as sheer gullibility. They also viewed Paul as a cult figure. Even when Paul would say some of the most vile, anti-American things, the cult of personality would follow him unwaveringly, choosing to see his libertarian views, fiscal responsibility, (alleged) Constitutional fidelity or just favoring legalizing pot. With Ron Paul, you take the good with the bad, a lot of bad, if you take him at all. I never subscribed to Paul's nonsense or cult. I did argue with some of his cultists, those prepared to go off half-cocked on Paul's suggestion.

    bin Laden deserved to die and be hanged from the Brooklyn Bridge for the birds to pick at his corpse. Kyle was a hero whose 160 kills saved American and Iraqi lives. That Ron Paul gets this backwards is a vivid example of his warped thought process and his inner darkness.

    • Over_and_Out

      This is something we all have to be aware of so that we don't fall into the same mode of thinking. It may not be based on a personality cult but maybe the cult of ideology can badly distort things. And yes Bin Laden got what was coming to him.

    • SCREW SOCIALISM

      SvenJolly…

      - Elaine Bennis

    • SCREW SOCIALISM

      I agree that the Moron Paul fanbois are part of a cult.

      I wondered whether Moron Paul organization was somehow connected to the fascist Lydon LaRouche fascist cult.

    • UCSPanther

      And sometimes, they would get so rabid, that they would threaten violence if you made fun of their idol. One threatened to come to my house and punch me when I made a joke of comparing Ron Paul to Kim Jong Il. I responded by telling him I would give him a warm welcome with my shotgun and it sent him into a tailspin.

      The Ron Paul cult was a textbook example of a personality cult.

    • http://www.adinakutnicki.com AdinaK

      It is definitely of piece with fanatical thinking, that an American who didn't shed a tear over the killing of a mass murderer is now hyperventilating over the death of a SEAL because he SAVED American lives!

      Adina Kutnicki, Israel – http://adinakutnicki.com/about/

  • davarino

    Did Ron Paul really say that about Chris Kyle? Chris was a hero.

    • davarino

      Wow, he really said that. My head just exploded. I couldnt believe that even he could say something like that. Thats just contemptable.

  • SgtMaj, USMC, (R)

    Ron Paul is an idiot, and always has been. There is a world of difference between Bin Laden and Chris Kyle. Bin Laden was a radical jihadist who wanted to wipe out, as his followers still do, all who did not hold his radical views. Chris Kyle was ordered into battle and did what he was trained to do. He saved countless lives by taking out as many of those Islamist whack jobs as he could. If we just pull back within our borders and leave them alone…they will still come after us. Their stated aim is world domination and the elimination of all infidels. Israel and us stand in their way. Doesn't have anything to do with us "being over there" or oil or any of that other smoke and mirrors crap. They are radical, religious ideologues who truly believe they are doing their god's will. Can't reason with people like that, ever. We have to meet force with force. Anyone out there truly believe there is no difference between Bin Laden and Chris Kyle? These comments are made by a 26 year Marine veteran. I remember the twin towers, the embassies in Africa, the Cole, Khobar Towers, a nightclub in Germany, Beirut, the embassy in Tehran, Benghazi, and on and on and on… RIP CPO Chris Kyle.

    • JacksonPearson

      Thanks, well stated.

    • Dour Tony

      Spot on, SgtMaj!
      All this CRAP about minding our own business ans staying home is baloney.
      Paul was/is a one trick pony.
      The memory of the Imperial Japanese Navy must have slipped Paul's memory.
      Kyle should be honored for the brave patriot he was, and not the fodder from some old loon's lips.

    • Drakken

      Amen SgtMaj ! Semper Fi !

  • ben t

    Ron Paul has crossed way, way, way, over the line. Kyle fought for me, my wife, my children and grandchildren. RP's narrow, provincial, rural, 18th century view of the world is better fitted to 1776 A.D. when it took three days to go by coach from Philadelphia to New York City. Enemy nuclear subs off our shore could wipe out 90% of our population in 15 minutes. "Preemptive War"? God help us from his brand pf libertarianism. ben t

    • SCREW SOCIALISM

      I've lost respect for john stossel for his support of Moron Paul.

      If Moron Paul is a "libertarian", I don't want anything to do with "libertarianism".

      • Mary Sue

        I think Ron Paul's gone senile somewhere along the way.

        • SCREW SOCIALISM

          senile? You misspelled EVIL.

  • chris gleason

    Ron Paul is an old man whose thought processes have failed. He needs to retire and stay out of the limelight. His beliefs are nutty.

    • SCREW SOCIALISM

      Moron Pauls beliefs are reprehensible.

      Wanna bet that Hagel thinks that Moron Paul is cool?

  • Ar'nun

    Well that pretty much sums it up perfectly.

    On a side note, I am really enjoying Bosch Fawstin's cartoons. Great edition to the site.

    • Fallacy

      https://www.facebook.com/ronpaul/posts/1015228549

      Seems you guys missed some of the info, paulfan from Norway, come at me.

      • Ar'nun

        HUH?

        • Fallacy

          Wasnt really a reply to you, just us paulfan so old this techonolgy stuff is hard.

      • SCREW SOCIALISM

        Phallusy,

        I hope your country makes Brevik president of your idiotic country.

  • Demetrius M

    I remember during the GOP primaries Libertarians coming in to all the conservative forums informing us how stupid we all are for not backing Ron Paul.
    Those people are almost as annoying as the leftist liberals when it comes to them thinking they all know something the rest of us don't. Well, character and integrity are important, and Ron Paul has neither. Just another neo-Nazi parading around as a freedom fighter for the masses.

    • Dour Tony

      What does it say about the FOLLOWERS, Demetrius, when they blindly follow a man, a human, instead of principles?
      I always mistrusted Libertarians because they were mezzmerized by Paul. what did they have planned in the event of him dying?? NOTHING!!!! Way too dependent on one person, like Der Feurher……..

  • Fallacy

    Just looked over this site, seems like an unbiased news source, giggles.

    • Fallacy
    • j.mendoza

      HA HA HA…you are funny. A typical liberal: smug, contemptuous, ill-informed and cynical. Perhaps you should get your head out of your butt or the NYT and see the real world. jerk!

    • Demetrius M

      Hey, a new bi**h to slap!

      This site is just a balancing out from your NYT, WaPol, Boston Globe, CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, BBC, Al Jazeera, Huffington Post, Daily Kos, Politico…
      The fact you took the time to leave all those sites and comment here makes us all feel really important.

      So come on back when you're ready to have your agenda ripped to pieces.

      • UCSPanther

        Not to mention Russia Today aka Pravda Mark II and PressTV aka Die Sturmer Mark II as well…

        • SCREW SOCIALISM

          Add to that Der Guardian, Der BBC.

          The sooner Eurabia collapses, the better off the world will be.

        • Drakken

          The sad commentary is that you get useful information from Pravda instead of the MSNBC Obummer cheerleaders.

    • SCREW SOCIALISM

      Stick your head in the snow until Spring.

    • Mary Sue

      SINCE WHEN has News EVER been "unbiased"?

      Hint: NEVER.

      That said, the Most unbiased news reporting possible is at Sun News (Canada). Find them on the Intarwebs.

    • imntreble

      I just read your post, you seem like an intelligent person, giggles.

  • Fallacy
    • JacksonPearson
    • UCSPanther

      Then move to Sweden if you like it so much. Just be prepared to pay 75% of your income in taxes so they can sustain their unwieldy health care and welfare system and all the illegal immigrant parasites who are currently leeching off of it…

    • reader

      Swedesh doctors are among the worst in Europe. Anyone with a serious illness travels to Germany for treatment if he or she can afford it. So, enjoy your cartoons.

    • Mary Sue

      ROFL. That's actually more descriptive of CANADA's health care system…because people die on…dun dun dun…WAIT LISTS. Which don't exist in USA. Canadians go to USA to get treatments they can't get in Canada, or treatments they can't get in a timely manner!

  • cxt

    And yet ANOTHER reason why Ron Paul is way to crazy to be trusted with any more power.

    I presume he feels the same way about say Law Enforcement? You know the men and women that risk their lives to protect the public–and are sometimes forced to shoot and kill to do so.

    Its also going to damage his kids image as well–this is going to come up in any future race Rand Paul may run.

    Sad and stupid and hurtful to the victims family.

    • Jake Tobias

      Good analogy. At first, I thought, "we support the troops, not the mission," was a fair defense of protest. But then it struck me, you couldn't say that about the police. You can't say, "we support the men and women in blue, but not their mission to protect us from criminals." Doesn't work. So then it becomes a matter of whether one believes our troops are fighting a criminal regime or not. And apparently, a lot of people still do not realize, we could leave Islam alone for a hundred years, and they would still attack the west. The fundamentals of Islam, are to end economic freedom, freedom of expression, and religious freedom. Above all, this last. Because to Islam, if you end religious freedom, all the rest follows.

  • Mark Coldren

    There's an awful sadness reflecting on Ron Paul's career:

    On the one hand, he was SO GOOD on economics and decent on individual rights. He invigorated the youth to read Bastiat, Mises, Hazlitt, and Hayek and to take their lessons to heart. For decades he was the one man on capitol hill who understood basic economics and who could stand up forcefully to entitlement expansions, Fannie and Freddie, the Federal Reserve, Sarbox, etc.

    On the other hand, he's SO BAD on standing up to Islamic Totalitarianism. He legitimizes the radical left for young conservatives searching for the truth and condones the narrative that somehow this is all our fault and we could live in peace with religious ideologues who want to take over the world if only we'd retreat a few more times. He's confused so many young people (me included, until ARI changed me back) and really damaged support for standing up to threats in the future.

    • SCREW SOCIALISM

      And Mussolini made the trains run on time.

      Moron Pauls bad ideas negate anything that might be sound.

      I can't trust someone who defends the Islamofascist Regime of Iran – that includes Hagel who must be a Moron Paul fanboi.

  • F.K. Juliano

    Alexandria, Antioch, Constantinople, Damascus, Corinth, Ephesus, Galatia, Hippo, Jerusalem: do those places sound familiar? They constituted the heart of the ancient Christian world and were all conquered by Muhammad's followers in the early days of Islam. Another 1,400 years of Muslim aggression followed and all those places, with the partial exemption of Jerusalem (thank God for that), are still in Muslim hands. Ron Paul somehow fails to see all this and instead blames America for our problems with the Muslim world. He is not fit to be a congressman, let alone commander in chief.

    I wonder if Rand Paul agrees with his father. If he doesn't, he should disavow these vile–and stupid–comments.

    • Mary Sue

      I think Rand Paul's got more sense than his dad, plus he's not old enough to have dementia yet.

  • Barbara Espinosa

    1611, King James Version of the Bible, Gospel of Matthew, 26:52
    Then Jesus said to him: “Return your sword to its place, for all those who take the sword will perish by the sword."

    • Mary Sue

      1611, King James Version of the Bible, Gospel of Luke, 22:36
      Then said He unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.

    • A 23 Year Old Man

      Can anyone say MISINTERPRETATION?

      To live by the sword means to have your life characterized by violence. It has nothing to do with being a soldier. Maybe you should acquaint yourself with the Old Testament warrior kings and judges, and perhaps Revelation, which describes Jesus Himself returning to earth to kill every corrupt politician, personally, with a sword.

  • Alex Kovnat

    I never liked Ron Paul much. Reason being is, if he had his way we would pull out of South Korea and leave those people at the mercy of North Korea, most likely the most negative regime on Earth. Same for Israel, vis-a-vis Islamototalitarian regimes such as Iran. For R.P. to insist on the idea of moral symmetry between the Koreas or between Israel (the only regime, ironically, which honors the idea of equal rights for women and gay people) and its enemies, is to be afflicted with the spiritual equivalent of AIDS.

  • Kenneth Olsen

    Ron Paul is guilty of poor timing. He's given those interested in vilifying him a wonderful opportunity to spew their vitriol and to attempt to legitimize their support for blatantly anti-Constitutional candidates in prior elections. The only reason Paul is regarded as a "cult" figure is because he was the only one who understood and abided by the principles of liberty and freedom.

    With friends like this blog's commenters, no wonder liberty's enemies prosper.

    • SCREW SOCIALISM

      Why would you support Moron Paul?

      Are you a 9/11 "troofer'?

    • Ghostwriter

      Mr. Olsen,what Ron Paul did was attack a murder victim because he served his country. He deserves the condemnation he gets just on bad taste alone.

  • reader

    "Ron Paul is guilty of poor timing."

    You're guilty of poor spinning.

  • g_jochnowitz

    The far left is the far right. Extremes meet, as they always have. http://www.jochnowitz.net/Essays/LeftAndRightUnit

  • Kenneth Olsen

    In light of such profound insights as those offered by the author and most commenters here, let's examine the facts of the case:
    Did the victim live by the weapon?
    Did the victim die by the weapon?
    Bonus question: Pinpoint the time when the simple truth becomes "sick words."

    • Mary Sue

      Because it violates the societal general principle of Speak Not Ill of the Recently Deceased?

    • reader

      Again, in trying to rationalize offensive and meaningless rhetoric, you're not helping your man.

      • Kenneth Olsen

        Let's agree that those offended by meaningless rhetoric are probably sick.

        • reader

          Nope. I suggest that you are.

    • A 23 Year Old Man

      "live by the sword" = "be characterized by a life of violence."

      'nuff said. Soldiers are professionals. They are not berserk people who constantly rage and quarrel.

  • Kenneth Olsen

    Great. Now that that's settled, apply your keen analytical skills to the simple questions:

    Did the victim live by the weapon?
    Did the victim die by the weapon?

    P.S. It's ok to get help if you need it.

    • cjk

      Fair enough; then he died honorably with the rest of those who have died in combat through the years to protect both our liberty and that of others you heinous schmuck.
      You can also throw in all the fallen police, secret service, marshals, etc.

      Are you twisting the meaning of Christ's words?

      P.S. It's okay to get out a Bible if you need it.

    • SCREW SOCIALISM

      Send my worst regards to your osama bin laden!

    • aspacia

      How about all those who suffer a violent death who never lived by the sword.

    • aspacia

      How about all those who suffer a violent death who never lived by the sword.

  • YetWave

    Allow Ron Paul to pass from obloquy to obscurity. He has earned them both.

  • Ghostwriter

    With that tweet,Ron Paul has earned my vote for jerk of the century.

  • Jeff Ludwig

    A liberal/left teacher told me in the faculty lounge last week that "killing is killing." I said, "No. If a policeman kills a criminal in a shootout, it's not the same as a bank robber coming in and killing a teller." All killers are not bad people. Some killing is good and done by good people; other killing is wrong and done by wicked people. Isn't this something a parent might tell an 8 year old child, but here I was telling this to a vetern social studies teacher in his forties who also is an attorney and former investment banker.
    Although I made my point, and he didn't argue his posittion further, I was sorry that I had to be making this argument at all. Possibly a sign of the times?….

  • cynthia curran

    On the one hand, he was SO GOOD on economics and decent on individual rights. He invigorated the youth to read Bastiat, Mises, Hazlitt, and Hayek and to take their lessons to heart. For decades he was the one man on capitol hill who understood basic economics and who could stand up forcefully to entitlement expansions, Fannie and Freddie, the Federal Reserve, Sarbox, etc.

    . Ron Paul is similar to the classical liberals mention above that didn't like much defense spending. My idea to not rise taxes for American Citezns but tax remittance money since 120 billion dollars is being transfer to othre countries by immirgants from Mexico, China and so forth. THis could helped the defense budget or local schools and so forth. Paul is bad on legalizing sex for sale because it doesn't get rid of the black market but encourages more sex trafficing.

  • cxt

    Kenneth Olsen

    Hey Ken–since your so interested in being oh-so-specific and doctrinire (sp) and OCD about it.

    "did the victim live by the weapon?"

    "did the victim die by the weapon?"

    Well actually NO–if were going to be so OCD focused on extacting definations then the victim was a sniper and he was killed with what seems to be a handgun. 2 very different weapons and uses. So no "jenius" ;) that is a patiently wrong statement on YOUR part.

    For those of us that stilll ive in reality—I would AGAIN ask–LEO's also uses guns to protect and defend–whould either you or Ron Paul ALSO states that the same cops that defend the public at large ALSO be so sneering and comtemptious of their sacrifice as well????

  • cynthia curran

    Personality, I never like Paul that much. I agree with him on the housing bubble not he had bad ideas on immirgation, let business folks hire anyone even if they are here illegal and bad on defnese. I agree that some cuts are neede now. And disagree with him on drugs and sex selling and so forth.

  • cynthia curran

    I mean bad ideas on immirgaiotn.

  • John Stone

    The problem with original thinkers is that you halve to be right almost all the time, because being wrong is more damaging than being right is helpful.

  • fanlad

    May God bless you and your family Chris Kyle. I salute another fallen hero, you will be sorely missed.

  • MaryS, CA

    Me thinks it was time for Ron Paul to not run for office again… the old man is falling apart at the seams.
    How could a thinking man say on Twitter what he said about Chris Kyle? Shame on him. There must be some form of dementia or Alzheimer's brewing in the deep wrinkles of his brain. I am sure that Chris Kyle's wife and two children appreciated Mr. Paul's comments, and Jesse Ventura who can't even speak english intelligently suing his family, go crawl back in your hole Jesse. You were a lousey Governor, you weren't even a good wrestler either. Mary711

  • teeterharris

    He's right on Bin Laden, sorry. Once you set up the precedent that it's all right to execute someone without a trial, you open up the possibility for innocent people to die without trial. "We" gave Saddam Hussein a trial, and he was hanged. That worked out fine. But now look at what the Obama Administration is doing with the drone strike policy on American citizens without trial (ties into NDAA). The precedent is wide open. Ron Paul was right about Bin Laden, hate him or not. It's not as though he hadn't said that we should have taken him into custody at the Gulf of Tonkin, because that's what he said. As far as Chris Kyle is concerned, he is right that 'he who lives by the sword dies by the sword'. Even Ayn Rand says that. It doesn't make it justifiable, it only makes his murder possible. His friend had post-traumatic stress disorder and potentially fired upon Kyle and a second victim because of it. (We don't have all of the information yet, so perhaps Paul's Twitter team should have waited until the facts were in instead of being reactionary like everyone else has been.) Otherwise, there is nothing untrue in his statements, cold as they may be. “Don't ever get angry at a man for stating the truth.” – Ayn Rand… It's a hard pill to swallow.

    • aspacia

      Many nonviolent individuals never commit violence, but are often violently butchered; 9/11 comes to mind. What you claim is not factual, nor truthful. Think Jesus of Nazareth.

    • aspacia

      Executing enemy combatants without a trial has often occurred–what about all the civilian contractors who having their heads sawed off by Muslims. Oh please, you are a another sheep who will be led to slaughter.

      • teeterharris

        I suppose that mob rule is now the exception to the norm? Also what I claim is based on research, not rhetoric. Look it up before you reply next time.

        • aspacia

          The fact is that many nonviolent individuals perish as the hands of the violent. This is not mob rule!

          PTSD is often bs. Many fought, saw their friends perish (blown to bits) and did not suffer from PTSD. Often, new diseases are created to allow MD's to push pills.

          • teeterharris

            "…many nonviolent individuals perish at the hands of the violent. This is not mob rule." No, it isn't. You're absolutely right. However, the implication that innocent slaughter happens often; therefore, "what can ya do?" opens up mob rule as your only alternative. I don't like our Government killing or indefinitely holding Americans on suspicion without trial. That goes against our whole system of checks and balances. Onto your next statement that "PTSD is often bs." Suicide rates are astronomical among veterans. An average of 22 veterans committed suicide per day in 2010. It happens; not always, but often. Check your premise.

            Am I incorrect in assuming that this forum is based on followers of Objectivist philosophy in art? If I am not wrong, then there are some convenient leaps in logic going on. During the 2012 Republican Primaries, Ron Paul was the only candidate who admitted to carrying an Ayn Rand newsletter in his pocket; yet he was the candidate attacked most by so-called Objectivists. Does no one else see a potential inconsistency here? There are a lot of false claims being thrown around by professional half-thinkers that make me embarrassed to know Ayn Rand left an estate to be inherited. If you don't understand what I'm referring to, listen to Yaron Brook discussing Gary Johnson on a recent podcast with Amy Peikoff. He speaks of how Johnson was a great candidate but somehow turned anti-American overnight by running on the Libertarian ticket. While it's true that you inherit guilt by association with your political party, the Libertarian Party has no blood on its hands unlike Republicans and Democrats. I have yet to hear Ron Paul or Gary Johnson either say he wants to apologize for America. Also, I'm still trying to figure out how Objectivists have any business as policy experts. Can you imagine John Galt accepting that job title?

            I could go on for days.