Gypsies, Camps and Thieves


article-2029909-0D29431800000578-838_634x370Last week, people in the U.K. got to take a break from worrying about the Islamization of their country. Instead they were offered a fresh chance to ponder the massive influx into the scept’red isle of Eastern European gypsies – or, to use the politically correct term of the moment, Roma. First, Labour Party MP and former Home Secretary David Blunkett, in a rare departure from the usual see-no-evil establishment rhetoric, acknowledged the “frictions” between gypsies and natives and worried aloud that it would eventually kindle riots. “We have got to change the behaviour and the culture of the incoming community, the Roma community, because there’s going to be an explosion otherwise,” Blunkett said. “We all know that.” The next day fellow Labourite Jack Straw, also a former Home Secretary, agreed, admitting that he and his colleagues in government had made a “spectacular mistake” in 2004 when they permitted unrestricted labor immigration from new EU member states in Eastern Europe. (The only other countries to do the same were Sweden and Ireland.) Straw & co. thought that only 13,000 people would come; the number turned out to be more than a million, with a quarter million immigrants arriving in 2010 alone. Alas, in addition to the hundreds of thousands of Poles, Czechs, and others who moved to Britain in sincere search of work, there was a small army of gypsies who came to beg, steal, and freeload.

Until recently, to be sure, things didn’t seem as dicey in Britain as in France, where gypsies have established sprawling encampments in and around major cities, all of which have turned, in no time at all, into ordure-suffused, rat- and lice-infested trash heaps. And whenever officials, if only out of concern for the public health, have tried to get the situation in hand, the media have served up sob stories like one put out by the Associated Press last year: “The camps weren’t much to begin with….Rats ran rampant and fleas gnawed on young and old alike….But they were home – and they were better than the new reality for thousands of Gypsies who have been forced into hiding after France launched its latest campaign this week to drive them from their camps.” Rarely, it seems, do the journalists responsible for this sort of drivel ever ask the gypsies questions like: “Um, if you’re going to live in this place, why can’t you at least try to keep it sanitary?” No, it’s almost always either implied or stated outright that, if the gypsies live in such filth, it’s because they’re poor and oppressed; virtually never is it acknowledged that this way of life is a fundamental element of gypsy culture.

In September, French interior minister Manuel Valls defied the sob sisters, calling for the return of gypsies to their homelands and insisting that “we must tell the truth…these populations have a way of life that is extremely different to ours, and they are obviously in confrontation with local populations.” Politicians and commentators professed to be appalled by Valls’s remarks, although the French public, by and large, seem to have reacted with enthusiasm. Most Englishmen, similarly, to judge by online reader comments, were glad to hear Blunkett and Straw finally owning up to the fact that they’d created a catastrophe. Exhibit A in last week’s media coverage was Sheffield, the city in South Yorkshire that Blunkett represents in the House of Commons, where gypsies from a cluster of villages in eastern Slovakia have transformed the face of a neighborhood called Page Hall. On Thursday, the Express reported that a gypsy teenager had walked into a fish-and-chips shop in Page Hall and offered to sell the proprietors a baby for £250; on Friday, the same newspaper informed readers that a retired English teacher in Page Hall had received a similar offer. The teacher went to the police, whose response was to suggest that the offer may have been a joke. (Sure, the old “want to buy a baby” gag – which one of us hasn’t pulled that one on a total stranger?) “We are as satisfied as we can be that no criminal offences have taken place,” said a police spokesperson. As for the teen who walked into that fish-and-chips shop, the cops, according to the Telegraph, “found no evidence to support the claim.” (What kind of “evidence” did they expect to find? Nappy fibers in the cooking oil?)

How bad have things gotten in Page Hall? Here’s how bad: as the Daily Mail noted on Tuesday, “the local Pakistani community association is running ‘official’ warden patrols between 8pm and 10pm every weekday with the intention of ‘educating’ the Roma population about ‘how to behave in England.’” (If it weren’t so tragic, it would be funny.) On Saturday, the Telegraph called the local atmosphere “poisonous.” Vast groups, each consisting of dozens of Roma, congregate on the streets every single night, “shouting, smoking, fighting,” blocking traffic, and throwing refuse everywhere. There’s a curfew for minors, but it’s totally ineffective, with police making only the most perfunctory, lackadaisal efforts at enforcement. As for the daytime situation, some Roma work, but most do not; “hordes” of them gather at gambling machines in a local shop, while others “walk the streets, content to pick up benefits” amounting to $800 a head per week. At a pub visited by the Telegraph‘s reporter, the language about the Roma was “incendiary,” with one patron warning: “There is going to be a battle eventually.” A shopkeeper agreed: “When it goes off, it will be like an atom bomb here.” The above-mentioned fish-and-chips merchant concurred: “If something doesn’t change round here there will be a pitched battle….This is a boiling pot ready to explode.”

The Guardian – which, along with the BBC, of course, is Britain’s premier bastion of noble left-wing lies – couldn’t allow this kind of blatant truth-telling to go unchallenged, so it sent reporter Helen Pidd up to Sheffield. Her Friday summing-up of the earlier reports in the Telegraph, Daily Mail, and other low-rent outlets read like one long sneer; we were plainly meant to understand that if there were tensions in Page Hall, they were the fault of hysterical bigots. Pidd interviewed 64-year-old Barrie Rees, who with fellow members of the Page Hall Residents Association regularly patrols the streets at night in an effort to maintain order. Rees, protesting that he and his colleagues had been labeled “vigilantes,” insisted that they were “just a group of ordinary local people who don’t like being intimidated in our own neighbourhood, trying to make the newcomers understand how life works here.” Pidd wasn’t buying it: she compared their attempt “to ‘educate’ the Slovakian incomers in how to behave” with  “the terrifying militia that have tried to drive gypsies out of villages such as Gyöngyöspata in Hungary.” Yes, she affirmed that Page Hall is a mess: “rubbish fills the gutters, and stained mattresses and sofas are piled up in gardens”; there are garbage bins “crawling with maggots”; garden furniture is being nipped out of people’s yards and garments stolen off of clotheslines. But Pidd preferred to close her article by focusing our attention not on the hundreds of sticky-fingered, labor-allergic newcomers who have turned Page Hall into a toxic- waste site, but on a handful of exceedingly unrepresentative gypsies whom she somehow managed to track down: a factory worker who told her he wants his kids “to be lawyers and doctors”; two teenagers who also said they have career aspirations; and, finally, a 10-year-old (always end with a kid!) who had “already picked up a South Yorkshire twang” and wants to be “a paid interpreter.” This was activist journalism with a vengeance, utterly and willfully blind to the basic realities of gypsy culture.

But the Guardian wasn’t done yet. On Saturday its sister publication, the Obsever, ran a piece by Mark Townsend headlined “The real story of Britain’s Roma: excluded, ignored and neglected.” Any school of journalism that wants to teach its students just how to turn the truth on its head in the service of ideology could do worse than to use Townsend’s article as a template. He starts off by telling us that the official London address of the Roma Support Group (RSG), “Britain’s biggest Roma charity,” is a post-office box because “fear of reprisal against Britain’s Roma community, even in the capital’s most multicultural borough, remains real.” In the wake of Blunkett’s statement last week, he adds, the RSG received one (1) nasty e-mail – which, to Townsend, is proof that “the rhetoric of hostility towards the Roma throughout Europe is escalating” and that the Roma are “the continent’s most persecuted ethnic minority.” Quoting Blunkett’s comments about the need for Roma to integrate, and similar recent remarks by the UK Independence Party’s Nigel Farage and by Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg, Townsend makes it clear that we should find such statements downright abominable. “David Cameron,” he notes approvingly, “judged the rhetoric so inflammatory that he ordered ‘sensible and calm language’ around immigration.” The real story, argues Townsend, is that the Roma are “a community whose needs have met official indifference.” Townsend is magisterial in his blithe dismissal of gypsy reality: anecdotes about gypsy crime in Page Hall are “rumours” and “lurid tales” (“there is little,” he actually says, “to substantiate the perception that Roma cause crime”); if there’s a danger in the presence of gypsies in Britain, “[o]ften the risk is to the Roma themselves.” But Townsend’s piece reaches its exquisite climax when he shares with us his take on an investigation by British police of what they described as the gypsies’ illegal “trafficking of over 1,000 children from Romania.” Townsend is appalled – not by the trafficking, but by the investigation, which, in his view, “fosters the perception of the Roma as a criminal community.” Those few words encapsulate the moral obscenity of multiculturalism, which teaches its adherents that it’s an act of extraordinary virtue to tacitly accept another culture’s systematic abuse and corruption of its young. Fortunately, most British subjects don’t share Townsend’s views; unfortunately, it’s Townsend and his ilk who are calling the shots. And yes, if they keep on putting ideology above reality in this way, it’s not hard at all to believe that before too long there’ll be an explosion.

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  • UCSPanther

    This is why nomadic cultures are incompatible with “settled” cultures. They tend to lack the knowledge and capability to produce for themselves, so they often resort to taking resources to survive, usually through theft or force. As such, they generally view outsiders (especially settled cultures) as at best, trading opportunities, or at worst, prey.

    In the lands where the Gypsies historically have lived (Romania and other parts of Eastern Europe), the locals there have the knowledge and fortitude to deal with them and protect themselves from their depredations, but in places like modern day Scandinavia and England, the people there are often sitting ducks for predatory nomadic cultures.

    • tagalog

      The loyalties of clan-based societies is based on kinship and enforcement of norms is grounded in shame, not on civilizational standards like law.

      • LolKatzen

        Good point.

        • Guest

          When and as the poor, for example, are shut out of court, they are pushed into that clan-based which is without the rule of law. And in the same remove, the politicians, and bar members who have so done, have themselves moved into that good buddy brother-in-law realm of corruption, another kind of clan-based area of society, . . .

        • PhillipGaley

          When and as the poor, for example, are shut out of court, they are pushed into that clan-based domain in life which functions largely without the rule of law. And in the same remove, the politicians, and bar members who have so done, have themselves moved into that good buddy brother-in-law realm of corruption, another kind of clan-based area of society, . . . and without rule of law, . . . and no wonder then, that, Hitler made such sweeping changes in the courts as to have re-made them into his own tool, . . .

    • PhillipGaley

      Although, nice information, why should being nomadic prevent one from refraining from casting trash around his feet, . . . or inculcate theft, . . . or immorality? Whether nomadic cultures are incompatible with “settled” cultures, or no, is not the matter which actualizes as the problem given mention in the article, but rather, as with the Roma, the true material for discussion in the comment would have to do with the facts of culture which prevent any people from desiring to be a blessing wherever they find themselves, . . .

  • Alleged Comment

    People are getting a FIRST HAND look at why turd world countries remain turd world. It should be common sense that if they are like that that is must be the way they are, right?

    Just as America is getting a first hand look with a sodomite negro and the damage such sexually deviant people and an African can do to your country in a few short years.

    • Charles Martel

      That man didn do nuffin. Why y’all keep puttin him down.

      • Alleged Comment

        Have someone cross you to the other side, remove your blinders and you’ll see why.

    • A Z

      Obama is white. He was brought up by white liberals. He lived the life of an expat American and then moved back to Hawaii to attend an upscale private school. His mother was a leftists and his white grandparents were out and out Communists.

      By the time he was born segments of the black community were infected with leftists ideology. So he could well have got the leftists indoctrination there too. but the point of fact is that he received it from some white leftists.

      As Charles Butler points out, Obama is not black. He did not grow up in a black family or in a black neighborhood. Obama is not an authentic black person. He is a poser.

      ***

      Obama’s actions are not due to him having African heritage. I dispute your assertion. It has to do with his being raised by leftists and him making a conscious decision to ride the affirmative action wave.

      • laura r

        father was leftist. also frank marshall was an influence, a communist & black.

        • A Z

          I knew all that. I do not think one visit at age 10 or his family telling young Obama that his father was a socialist or communist or whatever the ‘flavor of the month’ would induce him to a life of radicalism.

          Being with Frank Marshall might. I do not know how much time he spent with Frank. His time with his grandparents and mother was IMO in and of itself sufficient to make him a leftist. Marshall no doubt assisted; I am just sure that Marshall could have pulled it off all by himself if the grandparents and mother were against it. I could be wrong..

          ***

          I have a rather higher opinion of Barry’s step father than of any of the rest of his guardians. I think the two key points for me was although Sotero was a Muslim and and leaned communist, he supposedly moderated his political views as he got older and he related to Barry pre-Islamic folklore of Indonesia. Anyone who would appreciate the folklore from the pre-Islamic era of their country cannot be a a fire & brimstone type of Muslim IMO. So year I think Mr Sotero is a good guy. Barry Sotero not so much.

  • Rocky Mountain

    “moral obscenity of multiculturalism” Brilliant, I like it! Just last week I think NPR ran a piece from the BBC about the Roma and it may’ve very well been a result of Pidd’s article because there was some tosh about kids wanting to go to school yada yada. While she did have some interesting things to say this is PC posturing at its (Best or Worst, for the life of me that crowd has me so twisted around anymore that I just don’t know!).

    • Guest

      Truth is that Roma, as a group cannot be controlled, forced to work or forced to settle. The Communists had tried and failed to tame Roma, so the average democratic state has absolutely no chance to succeed there.

      • Drakken

        The state might not, but the people do and will once push comes to shove. .

  • roccolore

    While Gypsies are being mistreated, Muslims are getting free housing, free healthcare, free food, welfare benefits…

    • Demetrius Minneapolis

      Now only that, but when you look at the Roma treatment, you must conclude that Western Europe or the EU is an apartheid state. Isn’t this what they claim Israel is? The shame of it all.

      • roccolore

        The EU forces Europe to cater to Muslim terrorists.

    • BS77

      Stick a fork in England ….it’s DONE. The liberal leftist agendas have done this……open immigration, welfare state entitlements, soaring taxes, soaring unemployment…..England, once master of the seas, now a pathetic,Kafkaesque socialist welfare state, home to millions of hostile ingrates . What a success story. Yeah, let;s have that here too. Brilliant.

  • Charles Martel

    The British should use leftist tactics and protest at these reporters’ houses. They should shame and denigrate them. And most importantly, they should not be buying the damn papers and should boycott advertisers. Bring it on.

    • Paul Austin Murphy

      The British people as a whole don’t buy the Guardian. The newspaper has been a loss-maker for decades. It must be funded by Leftist millionaire philanthropists of some kind – or by Iran.

      Guardianistas make up about five thousand people who all live Islington (London), all wear those thin glasses, cultivate the unshaven look and “simply adore Muslims”. They are part of the Leftist elite (“vanguard”, as Lenin called them) – they are certifiably not the majority. In fact, they take pride in their (Leftist) elite status.

      In fact, the major sport and political purpose of Guardian readers and its journalists is to sneer at the British people for their ‘bigotry’, ‘Islamophobia’ and whatnot. They live in order to feel politically and morally superior to everyone else. All else is secondary.

      And that explains why the Guardian lies so much. Without lies, they couldn’t sustain their political puritanism, sense of superiority and shop-worn Marxist theories.

      • Misha

        You forgot to mention the visceral hatred of Israel by these descendants of Joseph Goebbels spout from the pages of this rag.
        The propagandists from Pravda and Izvestia from the 60s and 70s would blush, looking at the screeds by Robert Fisk, Jonathan Steele, Ben White, Michael Cohen (yes, Cohen), Andrew Brown and Harriett Sherwood. See cifwatchDOTcom for detailed analysis.

        • Paul Austin Murphy

          For every Michael Cohen let’s hope there’s a Nick Cohen.

  • Sheik Yerbouti

    They use the claim “fear of reprisals” like a club to beat over the heads of their hosts. It’s exactly the way “racism” has been used in the US. Most of those old feelings are gone, but the myth of their continuance can be used to garner all sorts of special favor.

    What’s really stupid is how long they think they can ride such a wave. But few people who employ blackmail ever plan for the end. They see their host as an eternal body that will go on rotting for centuries. I have personally seen what happens when a British guy has reached his limit with someone. They are fantastic fighters who will go way beyond Queensbury if need be.

    • Ace

      That’s the issue that confounds me. If all this isn’t pushing them and us to and beyond our limits, what on earth will? Political stupidity and lies, media corruption, police cowardice and complicity, massive influx of parasitic, hostile foreigners bringing stink, filth, and crime? It appears this is _insufficient_ to overcome what is simply an astonishing, suicidal. placcidity.

      • Drakken

        The days of placidity, PC, shame of being labeled a racist, is coming to a head. When the SHTF, these leftist enablers of this rot will be running for their very lives and the people in hot pursuit won’t be in the mood for quarter for none will be offered.

      • cerise3577

        Perfectly concise! would it fit on a bumper sticker?
        I often joke about “a successful parasite doesn’t kill the host”

        • Ace

          :-)

          You’re on to something there. Think of what will happen to the host with phenomena such multiculturalism, the welfare state, quantitative easing, environmental extremism, globalism, and leftist hatred of the Constitution. The proponents thereof try to sell them with euphonious balloney but the end result won’t be survival of the host. We’ll all go down together, more’s the pity, but it won’t be exactly unmerited, considering what the yeomanry have placidly accepted, even supported, themselves.

  • chan chan

    David Blunkett, and the current Deputy Prime Minister, Nick Clegg, are only speaking out against the Roma because their Pakistani Muslim constituents (they are both MPs in Sheffield) are complaining to them about an alien culture invading their areas, not respecting their way of life, and trying to force their way of doing things on the Muslims.

    How ironic beyond belief.

    Blunkett said “we have got to change the culture and behaviour of the incoming community”.

    So, the Roma have to change, but everyone’s too terrified to tell the muslims to change. Maybe it’s because Roma don’t behead off-duty british soldiers in the middle of busy London streets in broad daylight? Just an idea…

    And now we read that, already, the Muslims are making hay with this new influx of Kuffar, by prostituting and raping Roma girls.

  • cacslewisfan

    The cure for this insanity is for the gypsies to go and live next door to the Lefties who brought them in and the reporters who wrote the sob stories about them. In fact, that would be the cure for nearly everything the Left pushes onto the rest of us.

    • laura r

      you dont get how deep the lefts sickness is. they get off on the drama & abuse.

      • cacslewisfan

        Very true.

  • Paul Austin Murphy

    Liberty GB [Great Britain] has published this article on Roma in the UK. It’s written by its leader, Paul Weston:

    http://libertygb.org.uk/v1/index.php/home/root/news-libertygb/6165-importing-romanian-criminals-via-the-eu?highlight=YToxOntpOjA7czo0OiJyb21hIjt9

    • aPLWBinAK

      He also did a video admitting that he’s a racist http://youtu.be/t2kKnzW4d8w Actually, he did more than admit it, he embraced his racism (sarcasm…. it’s a great video)

    • LolKatzen

      Thanks for link.

  • rogerinflorida

    This article and the reality it describes makes my blood boil. British police are worse than useless, Mark Steyn has described them as “The paramilitary wing of the Guardian Newspaper”. My own Father, at 85 years old, was threatened with arrest after getting into a fist fight with an Irish tinker ( same as “Roma”, gypsies, travelers) who was breaking into my Father’s house.
    I don’t know if the GBP800 a week is accurate or not but if it is that is about $5,000.00 a month; who would work?
    There is a sick attitude about, where no standards of behavior are expected from these scum, or from the rest of the 3rd World garbage that has invaded and infested England for the last 50 years, encouraged by both labor and conservative govts.
    Same as here!

    • Nobody Important

      Explain to me what conservative in England means? It clearly means something different from what it means here in America & I’m a bit confused about it. (especially when someone doesn’t mention where they are from). I’ve heard Mark Steyn on the Radio occasionally. Here in America He would be considered a Conservative according to our definition. Is it the opposite in Britain?

      • Softly Bob

        Conservative means the same in Britain as it does in the U.S. At least it used to, but the Leftists with their Orwellian new speak have hijacked political terms and redefined them so much, that I don’t think that anyone knows what they mean anymore. Just like US RINOS, there are British conservatives who are actually quite left-wing without realising it. Political correctness has blinded us so much, that we don’t know who we are any more.

        I just stand for Common Sense, free market, freedom of speech and small government. That’s how I define myself. I’ve stopped using labels to categorise my own political beliefs, and I don’t trust anyone else’s labels either.

        • laura r

          there is no such thing as political correctness. all there is are corporations who have a motive to change the world. the rest is bottom feeder yaddayadda media college spreak. blahblahblah. say something enough & the masses will not notice thing, they will even think its terriffic. right? gee, i notice, i believe i am correct.

      • rogerinflorida

        N I,
        That is a very good question. I am old, when I was born Clement Attlee was the Prime Minister, for approximately half the years since then the Govt. of Britain has been “Conservative”. Given that record and the difference between the Britain of 1948 and that of 2013, I have repeatedly asked “conservatives” what exactly they have conserved. it is a rhetorical question on my part of course, I know what they have conserved, they have conserved privilege. Britain still has a system of entrenched establishment, headed by the Monarchy, that generation after generation occupies the leadership and accumulates the wealth. The fact that the middle and working classes have been reduced to govt. serfdom and their communities turned to multicultural hellholes is of no concern whatsoever. In the last political resort the Queen (dubbed by Dr. Sean Gabb “Elizabeth the Useless”) has always had the power to stop the 3rd world invasion of Britain, but she hasn’t because her primary goal is to pass on what must be the softest job in politics to her idiot son.

    • Jill

      That was why Labour brought them in, to change the culture.
      See A. Neuwirth.

      • rogerinflorida

        Jill,
        Tories are just as guilty.
        Please be more specific about “A. Neuwirth”.

  • tagalog

    “Vigilantes?” What’s the problem with vigilantes? The only risk with vigilantes is that they might be overzealous or unjust in enforcing the law, otherwise their proper name is Citizen Patrol.

  • defcon 4

    WHy don’t these hypocritical lieberal dirtbags ever chose to live w/the poor, disenfranchised, minorities they endlessly whine and cry about? Or are they the all-too-typical NIMBY lieberal?

    • cerise3577

      Because they see it as their God like power to make YOU live with them…. then they can feel good about themselves without getting dirty.

  • LolKatzen

    Great article. Suggestion: send the gypsies to live in Townsend’s neighbourhood.

    It’s hilarious (not to the people living with them of course) that these lefty journalists are bringing out the “caused by prejudice” meme. They are almost all from post-Communist Eastern Europe. Apparently even the Communists couldn’t do anything with them.

    My theory: they’ve been in Europe for centuries. During that time, the more intelligent ones “boiled off” (expression from West Hunter blog), by integrating into the general population, intermarrying with the general population. Only a toxic “residue” is left.

    • DownTurn

      > Suggestion: send the gypsies to live in Townsend’s neighbourhood.

      Better suggestion: Send Townsend to live in a gypsy neighbourhood.

      • LolKatzen

        LOL!

    • laura r

      it would surprise you, that there are successful people are from this backround. then again, it is still a small minority.

  • Hymie

    Americans for the most part have no idea how verminous and parasitic Gypsy culture is. They’re con artists through and through, privately and in business. They tend to work in packs, but are just as bad individually. Help them or show them a kindness, and they see you as an easy mark. Fortune tellers, pickpockets, begging/charity cons, petty credit fraud, construction fraud, you name it. And the women are worse than the men. Religious items around their necks, and “bless you” for thank you are trademark.
    The only bright side as far as I’ve seen is that they are unsophisticated (from lack of education). If you’re firm, and they can’t defraud you or your business on the spot, they tend to cut their “losses” and move on without much of a fight: No follow-up, no letters to management or headquarters, no lawsuits or legalities, no double checking your rejections on line.

    • laura r

      the mexicans from the small villages are no different. even the ones who are from a so called lower middle/middle class are the same, even if they are dentists. (sometimes the families chip in for school or the americans pay. most get robbed afterwards, assaulted-no good deed goes unpunished. still they help them give keys to the house). i know this kind of mentally & how they operate. after decades of dealing w/them, my conclusion is maybe 5% can be honest & intergrate. some poor people are clean, most have no sence. murder extortion is a way of life. then it depends upon the living conditions. its the fault of europe for keeping these kind of people there.

    • cerise3577

      You’re right, our local parasitic cultures pale in comparison. Though are very similar… they lack the formats and dedication to thievery and cunning…

  • MidSouthMitch

    “…there was a small army of gypsies who came to beg, steal, and freeload.”

    “No, it’s almost always either implied or stated outright that, if the
    gypsies live in such filth, it’s because they’re poor and oppressed;
    virtually never is it acknowledged that this way of life is a
    fundamental element of gypsy culture.”

    “…the hundreds of sticky-fingered, labor-allergic newcomers who have turned Page Hall into a toxic- waste site,”

    Damn! This sounds an awful lot like what the Nazis said about Jews.

    • Drakken

      Well if your so enamored with the gypsies, why don’t they come live with you then, just so you won’t live with the dreaded race card. Sooner or later, the native folk will be making their areas muslim and gypsie free.

      • MidSouthMitch

        I’m not enamored with the gypsies- Merely pointing out just how simply racism, etc. begins, One day, it will likely be the brown-skinned peoples complaining about the filthy/lazy/selfish.greedy whites.

        • laura r

          i am an equal opportunity offender. yes there are many disgusting lowly whites. i would live next to an educated 3rd world family anytime if i had to choose.

        • Drakken

          Your throwing down the race card really does show your leftist colors. As we say in the states, that dog doesn’t hunt anymore. Multiculturalism/diversity is a recipe for a very uncivil war that will make the Serbs blush, and you useful idiots on the left will have brought this upon yourselves. We White Europeans built and gave western civilization all that you enjoy today, if you want the 3rd world, go live there.

          • MidSouthMitch

            MEH-Wrong! I’m not a lib by any measure- unless you’re calling Christ a lib.

            (My entire workplace is currently unable to function- due to unabated laughter over how utterly preposterous the thought of me being a lib is!! I think our card-carrying lib actually pee’d himself. Best laugh we’ve had for a very long time- Thanks!)

            And I surely don’t support or endorse the actions of any social parasite. I’m just a bit astounded by the similarity of the language and accusations compared to those leveled against Jews in Nazi Germany (and other places). I also am highly aware that “white” folks like me are shortly going to be the minority in the US and most Western nations and respect for the respectable is important to me- As I hope to be respected. Otherwise, there is an extremely likely probability that our children will be the unwanted, disrespected and disparaged members of society. The cycle has to stop somewhere, my friend.

          • Ace

            Then stay focused on that and can the lame attempt to tie accurate assessments to Nazi thinking.

          • MidSouthMitch

            You wanna buy a snappin turtle?

        • laura r

          change the owrd from “racism” to “caution” how does that sit w/you?

    • laura r

      the jews didnt live in filth for the most part. yes they put them in the same catogory but for different reasons. the jews were a threat, as many had power. the gypies were just a 3rd world annoyance. they referred to both groups as parasites. actually there was (&is) jealousy & envy towards jews for their grand success, like making $ in banking.

    • LolKatzen

      The Nazis hated the Jews for the opposite reason, they were too successful. Owned too many businesses, too many in the universities. It is the total opposite here.

    • Ace

      So filth, crime, and parasitism DON’T invariably show up when gypsies do? Gypsies rented a house near me in N. Virginia. Forty of their pals showed up to visit one weekend. They used the doors of the kitchen cabinets for fire wood.

      • MidSouthMitch

        My comments were about the similarity of the rhetoric- Not facts or allegations.

  • LindaRivera

    Guardian and BBC elites, don’t be HYPOCRITES! Follow up your words with actions and go live in gypsy infested Page Hall!

    As BIG supporters of hundreds of thousands, possibly millions of Roma invading TINY, criminally over-populated Britain, PM Cameron and the politicians will be DELIGHTED when the gypsies are provided with the addresses of Cameron and the other champagne socialists, as the PERFECT place for gypsies to set up their encampments. Cameron, the politicians and the gypsies can all rejoice together!

    • laura r

      again you fall for this. no one is “invading”. there hasnt been a real invasion since ww2. the word is dramatic.

      • Ace

        Neither dramatic nor inaccurate.

        • laura r

          these people were invited. maybe you didnt invite them but the govt did. dont blame the people blame the concierge.

          • LindaRivera

            Yes! UK ruling elite TRAITORS invited Muslims in and turned Britons into a slave worker class FORCED via their taxes to provide for Muslims and their HUGE families!

            I called Muslims invaders because Muslims are unlike ANY other immigrants! Muslims come to our countries to conquer our people and ENSLAVE us under vile, woman-hater barbaric Islamic sharia law. Muslims publicly declare that is their goal! There are Muslim sharia patrols in London. “Get out!” Muslims yell. “This is a Muslim area!”.

            There are many no-go Muslim areas in Europe and Britain where non-Muslims risk their life if they enter. That is surely the definition of invaders!

          • laura r

            doesnt matter what the muslims think or do. regardless, they were INVITED. they didnt come on horseback carrying swords. not only were they invited, but the hotel accomodations are free, & lifetime garanteed. the hotel has no rules, the muslims can do whayever they like, even commit violence against the paying guests. can you blame them? they are just doing what they do, & the govt (the hotel management) is quite happy about it. if you cant check out of the hotel & go elsewhere, thats a big problem.

          • LindaRivera

            laura, our leaders are traitors for inviting Muslims into our countries. Muslims are commanded by the Quran to wage jihad, atrocities and mass murder of non-Muslims.

            Bukhari:V4B52N220 “Allah’s Apostle said, ‘I have been made victorious with terror.’”

            Qur’an:8:12 “I shall terrorize the infidels. So wound their bodies and incapacitate them because they oppose Allah and His Apostle.”

          • laura r

            hello??? dont you think the govt knows this?? they are guests w/a well know reputation.

          • LindaRivera

            Of course, gov’ts knows that!

          • laura r

            so stop blaming the wrong people. stop quoting the koran, its a waste of time. this is what the govts want to do, all over the free world. blame george soros for a starter.

          • Ace

            Soooo . . . this invasion was instigated by the Labour and Conservative Parties?! This puts a whole new wrinkle on things.

  • LindaRivera

    In Britain, join Paul Weston’s counter jihad, political party, LIBERTY GB.
    http://libertygb.org.uk/v1/

    Paul Weston in Croydon: It’s Not Racist to Defend Your Country
    http://libertygb.org.uk/v1/index.php/home/root/news-libertygb/5798-paul-weston-in-croydon-it-s-not-racist-to-defend-your-country

  • DogmaelJones1

    So…what have the Muslims, that other problem group, to say about the Roma? Are they pals? Are the Roma scheduled for conversion or slaughter with other infidels? Do the Roma worship Allah or the King of the Gypsies?

    • LolKatzen

      Read the Telegraph article. The Pakistani Muslims can’t stand the gypsies, they say they are destroying the place. The Daily Mail has photos, the squalor is unbelievable.

      • DogmaelJones1

        I saw the photos and read the article. Still….the Roma aren’t Muslims to the Muslims must have some unspoken view of them, other than they’re pigs.

  • Drakken

    You forget human nature at your own peril. We have been so beaten up with the race card thrown at us at every turn, the time for niceties and pleasantries have now come to an end. Anyway you cut it or slice it, when you flood 1st world nations with 3rd worlders, it only ends in a massive blood spilling. That is history and it is about to repeat itself.

  • JayTee

    Europe, Scandinavia, and the U. K. are getting the other side of the cheap-labor story, just as the U. S. is getting it with the massive invasion of “Hispanic” populations. So would you rather have Muslims, Arabs, and Gypsies . . . or third-world “Latinos?” Either way, cheap labor for businesses and cheap liberal votes for socialists, with working taxpayers paying for all the benefits. What a deal.

  • jacqui8411

    Gypsies moved next door to my family in the 1980′s in OREM, Utah of all places. They stole us blind from day one. My mom was a single mom of 4 and although they seemingly “liked” us (as much as gypsies like anyone, non gypsy). They were awful awful people and their “culture” is Thieving day in, day out. The youngest member, a 5 year old, had been trained to thieve. Some cultures SUCK. Quit making excuses. They use their young children to steal because they know they wont be put in jail. Disgusting “culture”. I noticed someone said they are nomadic people B.S. they are THIEVES. Period. I had friends from Romania 20 years later and we were able to spend HOURS telling Gypsy stories.

  • cerise3577

    Geee… it looks like the pictures I keep sending City of Los Angeles public officials of my neighborhood… no roma, we have the other crowd… streets littered with trash, graffiti, vandalism… guys urinating on walls and trees… loud music at all hours (they can’t afford to support themselves but they can afford to party)
    What a narrow minded conservative I am…. we just need to give them more

  • MidSouthMitch

    You wanna buy a snappin turtle?

  • LindaRivera

    Of course, gov’ts knows that!

  • laura r

    so stop blaming the wrong people. stop quoting the koran, its a waste of time. this is what the govts want to do, all over the free world. blame george soros for a starter.

  • Seek

    I like this piece — anti-Muslim, pro-Cher.

  • Seek

    I like this piece — anti-Muslim, pro-Cher.