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		<title>By: LindaRivera</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/bruce-bawer/if-you-cant-beat-em-join-em/comment-page-1/#comment-5320299</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LindaRivera]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Dec 2013 16:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You are absolutely correct.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are absolutely correct.</p>
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		<title>By: paendragon</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Dec 2013 05:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re: (europeans) &quot;were brought up to believe that the lesson of World War II is to exalt peaceful coexistence above all else and to reject the idea of fighting for anything&quot; and so embrace &quot;the triumph of pragmatism (tragically misguided though it may be) over principle.&quot;


So, (thanks, feminazis!) who really won WWII? 



I&#039;d say: Neville Chamberlain did!


;-(]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: (europeans) &#8220;were brought up to believe that the lesson of World War II is to exalt peaceful coexistence above all else and to reject the idea of fighting for anything&#8221; and so embrace &#8220;the triumph of pragmatism (tragically misguided though it may be) over principle.&#8221;</p>
<p>So, (thanks, feminazis!) who really won WWII? </p>
<p>I&#8217;d say: Neville Chamberlain did!</p>
<p>;-(</p>
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		<title>By: paendragon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[paendragon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Dec 2013 05:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[But all muslims are atheists, too! They just won&#039;t admit it LOL!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But all muslims are atheists, too! They just won&#8217;t admit it LOL!</p>
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		<title>By: paendragon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[paendragon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Dec 2013 05:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So now we must ask: Who&#039;s more guilty - some benighted muzis, raised in some back-desert sand-pits from birth on Muhammad&#039;s lies, and whose ancestors were among Big Moe&#039;s first victims, or &quot;our leaders&quot; who were NOT raised in darkness but in freedom and Western privilege? Obviously, the traitors are worse and more immorally culpable for their treason than the holy mobster jihadis are for honestly embracing their own crime-creed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So now we must ask: Who&#8217;s more guilty &#8211; some benighted muzis, raised in some back-desert sand-pits from birth on Muhammad&#8217;s lies, and whose ancestors were among Big Moe&#8217;s first victims, or &#8220;our leaders&#8221; who were NOT raised in darkness but in freedom and Western privilege? Obviously, the traitors are worse and more immorally culpable for their treason than the holy mobster jihadis are for honestly embracing their own crime-creed.</p>
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		<title>By: paendragon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[paendragon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Dec 2013 05:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The muslims will pretend to BE the Jedis: Je(ha)dis!


Unless I&#039;ve stumbled on another clue that George Lucas IS a muslim...!


;-(]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The muslims will pretend to BE the Jedis: Je(ha)dis!</p>
<p>Unless I&#8217;ve stumbled on another clue that George Lucas IS a muslim&#8230;!</p>
<p>;-(</p>
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		<title>By: paendragon</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Dec 2013 05:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The EUSSR shoudl be disbanded, and all the criminal negligent leaders jailed.

LePen was right, but little did she know how right shew was and is:

Blocking roads is an ACT OF WAR, and all the moslems know of this historical tactic:

Re: Sura 5:33 (The Punishment of those Who Cause Mischief in the Land):

Allah said next, ...

&quot;The recompense of those who wage war* against Allah and His Messenger and do mischief in the land is only that they shall be killed or crucified or their hands and their feet be cut off on the opposite sides, or be exiled from the land.&quot;

Sura 5:33 doesn’t demand equal retribution or even merely &quot;defensive&quot; warfare, since the word corruption (fasad) can refer to someone who speaks out against Muhammad and/or Islam. 

This means that the above-prescribed punishments will be inflicted on a person even if the individual hasn’t caused any physical injury to anyone, as the explanatory hadiths which append the Qur&#039;an, and supplemental tafsir notes explain:

*&quot; &#039;Wage war&#039; mentioned here means, OPPOSE AND CONTRADICT, and it includes DISBELIEF, &lt;b&gt;blocking roads and spreading fear in the fairways.&lt;/b&gt; Mischief in the land refers to various types of evil.&quot; (Tafsir Ibn Kathir, Volume 3, p. 161)

i.e: Those who even only verbally resist the islamic exotortion racket&#039;s claims, by declaring that Muhammad was wrong, must be murdered by the Muslims!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The EUSSR shoudl be disbanded, and all the criminal negligent leaders jailed.</p>
<p>LePen was right, but little did she know how right shew was and is:</p>
<p>Blocking roads is an ACT OF WAR, and all the moslems know of this historical tactic:</p>
<p>Re: Sura 5:33 (The Punishment of those Who Cause Mischief in the Land):</p>
<p>Allah said next, &#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;The recompense of those who wage war* against Allah and His Messenger and do mischief in the land is only that they shall be killed or crucified or their hands and their feet be cut off on the opposite sides, or be exiled from the land.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sura 5:33 doesn’t demand equal retribution or even merely &#8220;defensive&#8221; warfare, since the word corruption (fasad) can refer to someone who speaks out against Muhammad and/or Islam. </p>
<p>This means that the above-prescribed punishments will be inflicted on a person even if the individual hasn’t caused any physical injury to anyone, as the explanatory hadiths which append the Qur&#8217;an, and supplemental tafsir notes explain:</p>
<p>*&#8221; &#8216;Wage war&#8217; mentioned here means, OPPOSE AND CONTRADICT, and it includes DISBELIEF, <b>blocking roads and spreading fear in the fairways.</b> Mischief in the land refers to various types of evil.&#8221; (Tafsir Ibn Kathir, Volume 3, p. 161)</p>
<p>i.e: Those who even only verbally resist the islamic exotortion racket&#8217;s claims, by declaring that Muhammad was wrong, must be murdered by the Muslims!</p>
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		<title>By: Freedom for the BRITISH</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Freedom for the BRITISH]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Aug 2013 21:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I do NOT condone the actions of Anders Brevik but one can certainly understand his motives!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do NOT condone the actions of Anders Brevik but one can certainly understand his motives!</p>
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		<title>By: ObamaYoMoma</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ObamaYoMoma]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jun 2013 03:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Presumably there’s no place on their checklists for “soft jihad.” &lt;/i&gt;

Exactly, since if it isn&#039;t considered to be terrorism, then it&#039;s totally ignored and uncontested. Nevertheless, terrorism is not holy fighting in the cause of Allah for the establishment of Islam via the imposition of Sharia, which is Islam&#039;s totalitarian law. As that is jihad instead, and jihad is not only the highest pillar of Islam, it is also a fundamental holy obligation incumbent upon all Muslims in one form or another. As a matter of fact, the sole purpose of Islam is to subjugate into totalitarianism all religions and infidels via the imposition of Sharia. 

Nevertheless, as long as the West continues to conflate what is really jihad as being terrorism, soft, i.e., non-violent jihad, will continue to be waged uncontested.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Presumably there’s no place on their checklists for “soft jihad.” </i></p>
<p>Exactly, since if it isn&#8217;t considered to be terrorism, then it&#8217;s totally ignored and uncontested. Nevertheless, terrorism is not holy fighting in the cause of Allah for the establishment of Islam via the imposition of Sharia, which is Islam&#8217;s totalitarian law. As that is jihad instead, and jihad is not only the highest pillar of Islam, it is also a fundamental holy obligation incumbent upon all Muslims in one form or another. As a matter of fact, the sole purpose of Islam is to subjugate into totalitarianism all religions and infidels via the imposition of Sharia. </p>
<p>Nevertheless, as long as the West continues to conflate what is really jihad as being terrorism, soft, i.e., non-violent jihad, will continue to be waged uncontested.</p>
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		<title>By: Raymond_in_DC</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Raymond_in_DC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jun 2013 01:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;...the original 1956 version of Invasion of the Body Snatchers. If you’ve never seen it, check it out. Like what’s happening in Europe today, it’s terrifying. &quot;

It&#039;s been a long time since I saw the original, but I remember the ending had the sole survivor of the pod invasion of his town standing in city traffic desperately warning people of the threat they face. He was ignored. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;the original 1956 version of Invasion of the Body Snatchers. If you’ve never seen it, check it out. Like what’s happening in Europe today, it’s terrifying. &#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s been a long time since I saw the original, but I remember the ending had the sole survivor of the pod invasion of his town standing in city traffic desperately warning people of the threat they face. He was ignored. </p>
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		<title>By: infedel</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[infedel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jun 2013 22:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Islam is not a religion. Ban it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Islam is not a religion. Ban it.</p>
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		<title>By: DOYOULOVEAMERICA</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/bruce-bawer/if-you-cant-beat-em-join-em/comment-page-1/#comment-5237172</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DOYOULOVEAMERICA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jun 2013 21:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why did Europe bring these things into their countries, they could have had our worthless things instead.....???]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why did Europe bring these things into their countries, they could have had our worthless things instead&#8230;..???</p>
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		<title>By: walterbyrd</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/bruce-bawer/if-you-cant-beat-em-join-em/comment-page-1/#comment-5237093</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[walterbyrd]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jun 2013 17:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can hear it now: &quot;But those are only the bad Muslims. Most Muslims are good Muslims. Every religion has it&#039;s criminals. Not fair to label all Muslims because of the actions of a few&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can hear it now: &#8220;But those are only the bad Muslims. Most Muslims are good Muslims. Every religion has it&#8217;s criminals. Not fair to label all Muslims because of the actions of a few&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Darrell Pack</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Darrell Pack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jun 2013 16:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bruce, excuse my ignorance but is your book Surrender being translated into French, German etc.? It is excellent work and in my view (as an Evangelical Christian) it may help galvanize the dwindling forces standing for secular and constitutional governance.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bruce, excuse my ignorance but is your book Surrender being translated into French, German etc.? It is excellent work and in my view (as an Evangelical Christian) it may help galvanize the dwindling forces standing for secular and constitutional governance.</p>
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		<title>By: defcon 4</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[defcon 4]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jun 2013 04:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Isn&#039;t it time the Irgun and/or Haganah were reformed in Israel?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t it time the Irgun and/or Haganah were reformed in Israel?</p>
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		<title>By: defcon 4</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[defcon 4]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jun 2013 04:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I remember reading a story about a muslime man who was caught outside of his mosque (in either Iran or Iraq, I forget which) by his fellow muslimes who questioned him as to why he had missed prayers. He replied his prayers were between him and allah, for which he was beaten to death in the streets.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember reading a story about a muslime man who was caught outside of his mosque (in either Iran or Iraq, I forget which) by his fellow muslimes who questioned him as to why he had missed prayers. He replied his prayers were between him and allah, for which he was beaten to death in the streets.</p>
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		<title>By: DogmaelJones1</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DogmaelJones1]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jun 2013 02:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rohit:  You forgot to mention us atheists. Islam doesn&#039;t have much use for us, either.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rohit:  You forgot to mention us atheists. Islam doesn&#8217;t have much use for us, either.</p>
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		<title>By: OfficialPro</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[OfficialPro]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jun 2013 01:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[agreed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>agreed.</p>
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		<title>By: LindaRivera</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LindaRivera]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jun 2013 23:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ruling elites are NOT stupid. They are EVIL. They are DELIBERATELY colonizing our countries with many millions of infidel-hater Muslims.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ruling elites are NOT stupid. They are EVIL. They are DELIBERATELY colonizing our countries with many millions of infidel-hater Muslims.</p>
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		<title>By: therealpm</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[therealpm]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jun 2013 23:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Guns are not as big a problem as you imagine. There were few guns in Northern Ireland prior to 1969, but when the troubles started paramilitaries soon sprang up and acquired guns. In some European countries, such as Switzerland and parts of Scandinavia, guns are actually rather plentiful anyway.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guns are not as big a problem as you imagine. There were few guns in Northern Ireland prior to 1969, but when the troubles started paramilitaries soon sprang up and acquired guns. In some European countries, such as Switzerland and parts of Scandinavia, guns are actually rather plentiful anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: LindaRivera</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LindaRivera]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jun 2013 23:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A 23-year-old woman in Oscarshamn was on her way home when she was stopped by three young men of foreign origin. “Are you Swedish?” they asked her. When she said yes, they hit her so hard that she fell to the ground. Then, looking down at her, lying there at their feet, they said: “Welcome to Sweden. It’s our country now, not yours.” End of quote.

Every European ruling elite and every Prime Minister in Britain since Tony Blair are RESPONSIBLE for every cruel Muslim rape, sexual enslavement and violent attack on our non-Muslim people. Wicked ruling elites have colonized our countries with many millions of Muslims to ENABLE Muslims to OBEY commands in the Quran and mosques to conquer us, ENSLAVE us, DESTROY our freedom and human rights and rule over us with barbaric sharia law.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A 23-year-old woman in Oscarshamn was on her way home when she was stopped by three young men of foreign origin. “Are you Swedish?” they asked her. When she said yes, they hit her so hard that she fell to the ground. Then, looking down at her, lying there at their feet, they said: “Welcome to Sweden. It’s our country now, not yours.” End of quote.</p>
<p>Every European ruling elite and every Prime Minister in Britain since Tony Blair are RESPONSIBLE for every cruel Muslim rape, sexual enslavement and violent attack on our non-Muslim people. Wicked ruling elites have colonized our countries with many millions of Muslims to ENABLE Muslims to OBEY commands in the Quran and mosques to conquer us, ENSLAVE us, DESTROY our freedom and human rights and rule over us with barbaric sharia law.</p>
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