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	<title>Comments on: Fact, Democrats, and the JFK Legend</title>
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		<title>By: mudnducs</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Dec 2013 18:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[THANK YOU Mr Thornton!  Never seen it better said.   Democrats still pull the D lever reflexively...many/most not realizing how aligned with socialism they are.  They drag up the Kennedy name as easily as they pull out the &#039;racist&#039; or &#039;hater&#039; moniker.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THANK YOU Mr Thornton!  Never seen it better said.   Democrats still pull the D lever reflexively&#8230;many/most not realizing how aligned with socialism they are.  They drag up the Kennedy name as easily as they pull out the &#8216;racist&#8217; or &#8216;hater&#8217; moniker.</p>
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		<title>By: ebonystone</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Dec 2013 00:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A PT boat gets cut in half by a cruiser (a destroyer , I thought) when it&#039;s stopped. and its crew is having a beer party, and nobody is keeping a lookout.  To JFK&#039;s credit, he personally pulled a crew-member who couldn&#039;t swim to safety.  Still, if he hadn&#039;t been Joe Kennedy&#039;s son, he would have been court-martialed and dismissed from the Navy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A PT boat gets cut in half by a cruiser (a destroyer , I thought) when it&#8217;s stopped. and its crew is having a beer party, and nobody is keeping a lookout.  To JFK&#8217;s credit, he personally pulled a crew-member who couldn&#8217;t swim to safety.  Still, if he hadn&#8217;t been Joe Kennedy&#8217;s son, he would have been court-martialed and dismissed from the Navy.</p>
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		<title>By: nagesha</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Dec 2013 19:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just checking....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just checking&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: JoJoJams</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Nov 2013 18:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While I agree with what you say for the most part, I take slight issue with your perspective on his &quot;Ask not what....etc&quot;.  &quot;country&quot; is not &quot;the government&quot;, and I myself never took that quote as meaning doing something for the government.  But I firmly believe we each, as individuals, should do some things for &quot;the country&quot; - our fellow Americans - be it through charitable giving of time and money, or in whatever capacity.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I agree with what you say for the most part, I take slight issue with your perspective on his &#8220;Ask not what&#8230;.etc&#8221;.  &#8220;country&#8221; is not &#8220;the government&#8221;, and I myself never took that quote as meaning doing something for the government.  But I firmly believe we each, as individuals, should do some things for &#8220;the country&#8221; &#8211; our fellow Americans &#8211; be it through charitable giving of time and money, or in whatever capacity.</p>
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		<title>By: JoJoJams</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Nov 2013 18:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting sentence structure.  &quot;The facts about JFK are&quot; - and then you go on to give &quot;facts&quot; about right wingers...  At least your nom de plume is correct.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting sentence structure.  &#8220;The facts about JFK are&#8221; &#8211; and then you go on to give &#8220;facts&#8221; about right wingers&#8230;  At least your nom de plume is correct.</p>
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		<title>By: reader</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[reader]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Nov 2013 15:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You are a perfect drone, a religious marxist, repeating mantra with meaningless one-liners given to you by Soros&#039; Ministry of Truth via outlets like hufpo and such.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are a perfect drone, a religious marxist, repeating mantra with meaningless one-liners given to you by Soros&#8217; Ministry of Truth via outlets like hufpo and such.</p>
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		<title>By: Kieran</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kieran]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Nov 2013 17:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Reminds me of the story about Winston Churchill’s son who had never become famous but would be on the newspaper front pages the day he died, or so he would say. Alas, he died the same day Robert Kennedy was assassinated. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reminds me of the story about Winston Churchill’s son who had never become famous but would be on the newspaper front pages the day he died, or so he would say. Alas, he died the same day Robert Kennedy was assassinated. </p>
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		<title>By: tagalog</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Nov 2013 14:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think you are mistaking a desire to be objective with being an LBJ (or a Civil Rights Act of 1964) fan.  I was an  LBJ hater when he was President.  I didn&#039;t like Nixon either.  I still don&#039;t like either one of them. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you are mistaking a desire to be objective with being an LBJ (or a Civil Rights Act of 1964) fan.  I was an  LBJ hater when he was President.  I didn&#8217;t like Nixon either.  I still don&#8217;t like either one of them. </p>
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		<title>By: tagalog</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Nov 2013 13:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Constitution is unquestionably NOT the final arbiter of all things.  The Constitution is made by the People, who are the arbiter of all things.  Even if you can argue that the Constitution controls things, it most certainly does NOT control ALL things; it only controls the things that are mentioned in it.  For example, the rights not provided for in the Constitution are reserved to the People.  We don&#039;t need the Ninth and Tenth Amendments to know that.

The Fourteenth Amendment is what usurped the Constitution.  Although there are many reasons why the United States has wobbled, the Fourteenth Amendment and the incorporation doctrine is near the heart of the matter.  Giving up liberty in exchange for equality of result didn&#039;t help things either.

Yes, LBJ was a disaster for this country.  So was Nixon.  It was an era of scumbags.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Constitution is unquestionably NOT the final arbiter of all things.  The Constitution is made by the People, who are the arbiter of all things.  Even if you can argue that the Constitution controls things, it most certainly does NOT control ALL things; it only controls the things that are mentioned in it.  For example, the rights not provided for in the Constitution are reserved to the People.  We don&#8217;t need the Ninth and Tenth Amendments to know that.</p>
<p>The Fourteenth Amendment is what usurped the Constitution.  Although there are many reasons why the United States has wobbled, the Fourteenth Amendment and the incorporation doctrine is near the heart of the matter.  Giving up liberty in exchange for equality of result didn&#8217;t help things either.</p>
<p>Yes, LBJ was a disaster for this country.  So was Nixon.  It was an era of scumbags.</p>
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		<title>By: reader</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Nov 2013 00:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Intergrationists (i.e. liberals)? You&#039;re making stuff up as you go. Just like I said about conflating things having nothing to do with one another.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Intergrationists (i.e. liberals)? You&#8217;re making stuff up as you go. Just like I said about conflating things having nothing to do with one another.</p>
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		<title>By: reader</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Nov 2013 00:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson are race bating racketeers. It does not make Hugo Black any less racist. Kind of like Hitler being a war criminal does not make Stalin a hero, and vice versa.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson are race bating racketeers. It does not make Hugo Black any less racist. Kind of like Hitler being a war criminal does not make Stalin a hero, and vice versa.</p>
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		<title>By: Seek</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Seek]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Nov 2013 22:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hugo Black was an ex-Klansmen in belief by the time he ascended to the Court.  In any event, there are worse things to be than a public servant who belonged to the Klan 50 years earlier.  How about Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson today?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hugo Black was an ex-Klansmen in belief by the time he ascended to the Court.  In any event, there are worse things to be than a public servant who belonged to the Klan 50 years earlier.  How about Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson today?</p>
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		<title>By: Seek</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Seek]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Nov 2013 22:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Facts are stubborn things, &quot;Reader.&quot;  Apparently, they&#039;re too stubborn for you to accept.  Blacks are focused on their own race, not on conservatism.  The Klan during its heyday (long since passed) was not some sort of Democratic think tank or PAC.  From the start, it&#039;s been a secret society dedicated to social control by race.  They&#039;re the opposite of integrationists (i.e., liberals).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Facts are stubborn things, &#8220;Reader.&#8221;  Apparently, they&#8217;re too stubborn for you to accept.  Blacks are focused on their own race, not on conservatism.  The Klan during its heyday (long since passed) was not some sort of Democratic think tank or PAC.  From the start, it&#8217;s been a secret society dedicated to social control by race.  They&#8217;re the opposite of integrationists (i.e., liberals).</p>
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		<title>By: nonannystate</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nonannystate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Nov 2013 21:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The facts about JFK are that you right-wingers were screaming that he was a Communist and issuing wanted posters with his face on them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The facts about JFK are that you right-wingers were screaming that he was a Communist and issuing wanted posters with his face on them.</p>
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		<title>By: Drakken</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Drakken]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Nov 2013 19:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[LBJ was a disaster for this country. The Constitution is the final arbitrator of all things, the uncivil rights act usurped it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LBJ was a disaster for this country. The Constitution is the final arbitrator of all things, the uncivil rights act usurped it.</p>
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		<title>By: Drakken</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Drakken]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Nov 2013 19:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And where has that legislation gotten us ? Really, think about it, have we as a country gotten better or worse because of it?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And where has that legislation gotten us ? Really, think about it, have we as a country gotten better or worse because of it?</p>
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		<title>By: American1969</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[American1969]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Nov 2013 19:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s because Kennedy was gunned down in his &quot;prime&quot; so to speak that he gets the Martyr Treatment. Same for Abraham Lincoln. Both did break laws and do some things that were unconstitutional. However, they are remembered as tragic figures and therefore, things they did that may be questionable get glossed over and overlooked.
That being said, JFK would not be accepted in today&#039;s Socialist Democrat Party. He would be appalled by what they&#039;ve become. If anything, he&#039;d most likely be a RINO by today&#039;s standards.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s because Kennedy was gunned down in his &#8220;prime&#8221; so to speak that he gets the Martyr Treatment. Same for Abraham Lincoln. Both did break laws and do some things that were unconstitutional. However, they are remembered as tragic figures and therefore, things they did that may be questionable get glossed over and overlooked.<br />
That being said, JFK would not be accepted in today&#8217;s Socialist Democrat Party. He would be appalled by what they&#8217;ve become. If anything, he&#8217;d most likely be a RINO by today&#8217;s standards.</p>
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		<title>By: Louis Thorndon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Louis Thorndon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Nov 2013 15:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Right on!  Liberalism is intimately connected with the KKK.  Woodrow  Wilson was a NJ Governor, a Princeton University President and a dyed in the wool racist who segregated federal employees.  Contemporary fiction in this case follows the facts - &quot;O Brother, Where Art Thou?&quot; produced, directed and written by the Coen Brothers depicts a Progressive as the Imperial Wizard of the KKK, with the conservative Democrat incumbent - Menelaus &quot;Pappy&quot; O&#039;Daniel, the Governor of Mississippi - as tolerant.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right on!  Liberalism is intimately connected with the KKK.  Woodrow  Wilson was a NJ Governor, a Princeton University President and a dyed in the wool racist who segregated federal employees.  Contemporary fiction in this case follows the facts &#8211; &#8220;O Brother, Where Art Thou?&#8221; produced, directed and written by the Coen Brothers depicts a Progressive as the Imperial Wizard of the KKK, with the conservative Democrat incumbent &#8211; Menelaus &#8220;Pappy&#8221; O&#8217;Daniel, the Governor of Mississippi &#8211; as tolerant.</p>
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		<title>By: Louis Thorndon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Louis Thorndon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Nov 2013 07:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with Professor Thornton&#039;s analysis.  The problem is that the electorate is different.  LBJ created re-alignment by finally driving the South from the Democrat Party.  He also dramatically expanded the entitlement state and so created a class of the welfare dependent.  Further, the Warren Court&#039;s continuing legacy is the destruction of Christian values in government schools and it effectively ended anti-Communist programs and it reached deeply into State sovereignty.  The effect of all this is that the Henry Wallace wing of the Democrat Party took over.  The old Democrat Party was an odd coalition of ethnics who were against the Civil War, Southerners who were against the Civil War and Northern pacifists who were against the Civil War.  It was a party of the Left, the Right and Roman Catholics.  FDR was from the Left.  Woodrow Wilson was of the Left, but also a Southern racist.  When FDR unleashed the unions, they were often Roman Catholic and therefore, in those days, anti-Communist AND the unions remained unwelcome in the South.  The only obvious way to break the hold of the Left on the Democrat Party is to increase the number of patronage positions, so that there are people who are not zealots who are interested in machine politics.  The only obvious way to fracture the current Democrat coalition is to play identity politics and for the GOP to nominate blacks, Hispanics and women, so as to peel away low information, non-ideological voters.  This is the reason the Left goes crazy over Sarah Palin, Michele Bachmann and Herman Cain.  JFK was a rich Roman Catholic - not a liberal.  He had a lot in common in terms of economic and cultural interests with old grandees of the South.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Professor Thornton&#8217;s analysis.  The problem is that the electorate is different.  LBJ created re-alignment by finally driving the South from the Democrat Party.  He also dramatically expanded the entitlement state and so created a class of the welfare dependent.  Further, the Warren Court&#8217;s continuing legacy is the destruction of Christian values in government schools and it effectively ended anti-Communist programs and it reached deeply into State sovereignty.  The effect of all this is that the Henry Wallace wing of the Democrat Party took over.  The old Democrat Party was an odd coalition of ethnics who were against the Civil War, Southerners who were against the Civil War and Northern pacifists who were against the Civil War.  It was a party of the Left, the Right and Roman Catholics.  FDR was from the Left.  Woodrow Wilson was of the Left, but also a Southern racist.  When FDR unleashed the unions, they were often Roman Catholic and therefore, in those days, anti-Communist AND the unions remained unwelcome in the South.  The only obvious way to break the hold of the Left on the Democrat Party is to increase the number of patronage positions, so that there are people who are not zealots who are interested in machine politics.  The only obvious way to fracture the current Democrat coalition is to play identity politics and for the GOP to nominate blacks, Hispanics and women, so as to peel away low information, non-ideological voters.  This is the reason the Left goes crazy over Sarah Palin, Michele Bachmann and Herman Cain.  JFK was a rich Roman Catholic &#8211; not a liberal.  He had a lot in common in terms of economic and cultural interests with old grandees of the South.</p>
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		<title>By: Gregory G. Sierveld</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gregory G. Sierveld]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Nov 2013 06:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ngo Dinh Diem..... Removed? sure is a nice way to put murdering someone, via the CIA. Tell me how is Kennedy Anti Communist after the bay of pigs and assassinating Diem instead of  ho chi minh?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ngo Dinh Diem&#8230;.. Removed? sure is a nice way to put murdering someone, via the CIA. Tell me how is Kennedy Anti Communist after the bay of pigs and assassinating Diem instead of  ho chi minh?</p>
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