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	<title>Comments on: It’s Not the Message, It’s Not the Messenger, It’s the Voter</title>
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		<title>By: Viet Vet</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2013 03:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We know today, for example, that Nixon actually won the 1960 election. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We know today, for example, that Nixon actually won the 1960 election. </p>
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		<title>By: Viet Vet</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Viet Vet]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2013 03:29:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Highest profile until 2008 and 2012 that is. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Highest profile until 2008 and 2012 that is. </p>
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		<title>By: Viet Vet</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Viet Vet]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2013 03:28:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The left&#039;s investment in voter fraud is certainly nothing new.  The 2000 election was the highest profile of it, but they have been doing it for many more years before that. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The left&#039;s investment in voter fraud is certainly nothing new.  The 2000 election was the highest profile of it, but they have been doing it for many more years before that. </p>
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		<title>By: Viet Vet</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Viet Vet]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2013 03:25:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Exactly....but the problem, even though still unconstitutional, where &#039;the will of the people&#039; goes is that the determination of that is in bogus polls, constructed polls.  Such as the faux polls that PEW did with the Campaign Finance Reform thing.  They didn&#039;t run polls, just made them up to influence republicans to finally go along with bogus campaign finance reform.  Both President Bush and the Supreme Court fell in line too.  The democrappers of course were in on the hoax and had their 527&#039;s, which they got installed in the legislation, that did an end run on the &quot;reform&quot;, all up and running.  President Bush would have lost to John F&#039;n sKerry, recipient of a less than honorable discharge from the Navy, if not for the quick action of the Swift Boat Veterans (and the thousands upon thousands of dollars from veterans like myself) in getting a 527 of their own up and running.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly&#8230;.but the problem, even though still unconstitutional, where &#039;the will of the people&#039; goes is that the determination of that is in bogus polls, constructed polls.  Such as the faux polls that PEW did with the Campaign Finance Reform thing.  They didn&#039;t run polls, just made them up to influence republicans to finally go along with bogus campaign finance reform.  Both President Bush and the Supreme Court fell in line too.  The democrappers of course were in on the hoax and had their 527&#039;s, which they got installed in the legislation, that did an end run on the &quot;reform&quot;, all up and running.  President Bush would have lost to John F&#039;n sKerry, recipient of a less than honorable discharge from the Navy, if not for the quick action of the Swift Boat Veterans (and the thousands upon thousands of dollars from veterans like myself) in getting a 527 of their own up and running.  </p>
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		<title>By: Viet Vet</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Viet Vet]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2013 03:16:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Karma is voo doo, only atheists believe in it. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karma is voo doo, only atheists believe in it. </p>
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		<title>By: Viet Vet</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Viet Vet]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2013 03:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Expenditure for War, National Defense, and Military spending is CONSTITUTIONAL.  Entitlement spending is NOT.  If you were smart enough to look at a pie chart of the U.S. budget, you would find the Defense budget miniscule compared to entitlements.  The Defense budget is currently (before Obummer&#039;s devastating cuts) is at an almost all time low, at 4.5% of GDP.   Yes, I know that if Gore would have been able to steal the 2000 election, he would have continued the Islamofascist appeasement and  not gone after al Qaeda and the Taliban.  Neither would have Obummer.  They, like you, don&#039;t recognize that they are waging war against us.  That was a point that the 9/11 Commission made. 
 
The seminary work has been done on the economic fiasco by Gretchen Morgenson, Business Editor of the NY Slimes: Reckless Endangerment. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Expenditure for War, National Defense, and Military spending is CONSTITUTIONAL.  Entitlement spending is NOT.  If you were smart enough to look at a pie chart of the U.S. budget, you would find the Defense budget miniscule compared to entitlements.  The Defense budget is currently (before Obummer&#039;s devastating cuts) is at an almost all time low, at 4.5% of GDP.   Yes, I know that if Gore would have been able to steal the 2000 election, he would have continued the Islamofascist appeasement and  not gone after al Qaeda and the Taliban.  Neither would have Obummer.  They, like you, don&#039;t recognize that they are waging war against us.  That was a point that the 9/11 Commission made. </p>
<p>The seminary work has been done on the economic fiasco by Gretchen Morgenson, Business Editor of the NY Slimes: Reckless Endangerment. </p>
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		<title>By: Viet Vet</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Viet Vet]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2013 03:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[At a 2005 House Banking Committee meeting, the regulators testifed to these circumstances and republicans wanted to reform Fanny Mae and Freddy Mac, but democraps shouted them down with charges of racism, Frankln Raines was black.  Democraps charged that it was all about lynching Franklin Raines.  This meeting was carried by C-Span and can likely still be seen.  Also the Press Conference with HUD Secty Andew Cuomo, where he announced Klinton&#039;s putting the force of the federal government behind the CRA was televised on C-Span and I still found it in 2008. 
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At a 2005 House Banking Committee meeting, the regulators testifed to these circumstances and republicans wanted to reform Fanny Mae and Freddy Mac, but democraps shouted them down with charges of racism, Frankln Raines was black.  Democraps charged that it was all about lynching Franklin Raines.  This meeting was carried by C-Span and can likely still be seen.  Also the Press Conference with HUD Secty Andew Cuomo, where he announced Klinton&#039;s putting the force of the federal government behind the CRA was televised on C-Span and I still found it in 2008. </p>
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		<title>By: Viet Vet</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/bruce-thornton/its-not-the-message-its-not-the-messenger-its-the-voter/comment-page-1/#comment-4184153</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Viet Vet]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2013 03:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Then Mr Bush had two major hurricanes.  Still, like Mr Reagan, his tax cuts infused the economy and unemployment stayed below 5% (Mr Bush created 10 million new jobs), interest rates stayed low, good growth rate (in fact Mr Bush holds the record among presidents with the most consecutive years of good sustained growth (5).   But all along the seeds Karter sowed with his CRA, and Klinton&#039;s putting it on Steroids (forced subprime lending) was beginning to bear fruit.  The housing bubble thus created finally burst.  GSE, Fanny Mae had bought up $6 trillion of this bad paper and federal regulators had been warning for 4 or 5 years that it was fast becoming insolvent.  Further they testified, Fanny&#039;s managers were cooking the books in order to give themselves huge bonuses.  Fanny&#039;s managers were Klinton cronies, such as Franklin Raines, Jamie Gorelick, and Jim Johnson.  It turned out that Fanny was a cash-cow for democraps, handing out cash campaign donations, with the largest recipients being Obummer and Chris Dodd.  
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then Mr Bush had two major hurricanes.  Still, like Mr Reagan, his tax cuts infused the economy and unemployment stayed below 5% (Mr Bush created 10 million new jobs), interest rates stayed low, good growth rate (in fact Mr Bush holds the record among presidents with the most consecutive years of good sustained growth (5).   But all along the seeds Karter sowed with his CRA, and Klinton&#039;s putting it on Steroids (forced subprime lending) was beginning to bear fruit.  The housing bubble thus created finally burst.  GSE, Fanny Mae had bought up $6 trillion of this bad paper and federal regulators had been warning for 4 or 5 years that it was fast becoming insolvent.  Further they testified, Fanny&#039;s managers were cooking the books in order to give themselves huge bonuses.  Fanny&#039;s managers were Klinton cronies, such as Franklin Raines, Jamie Gorelick, and Jim Johnson.  It turned out that Fanny was a cash-cow for democraps, handing out cash campaign donations, with the largest recipients being Obummer and Chris Dodd.  </p>
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		<title>By: Viet Vet</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/bruce-thornton/its-not-the-message-its-not-the-messenger-its-the-voter/comment-page-1/#comment-4184150</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Viet Vet]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2013 03:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ah but Mr Bush had a robust economy which owed itself to the tax cuts. Remember that Mr Bush inherited a downturned economy from Klinton, or have you forgotten the stock market crash of 2000.  Then barely into his presidency he had the 9/ll attack, thanks again to Klinton&#039;s 8 years of islamofascist appeasement.  No less an authority than bin Laden said that it was precisely Klinton&#039;s retreat from Somalia that emboldened them to begin planning the 9/11 attack.  Klinton also had a chance to nail bin Laden when the Seals had him in their sights.  All that was necessary to take him out was the go ahead.  But Klinton got word that the call was coming and hid out, until the window had passed.  This we know, because Klinton&#039;s National Security Advisor, Sandy Burger, said so.  Burger as you may recall, later got the name Burglar, when he stole documents from the national archives and destroyed them. 
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah but Mr Bush had a robust economy which owed itself to the tax cuts. Remember that Mr Bush inherited a downturned economy from Klinton, or have you forgotten the stock market crash of 2000.  Then barely into his presidency he had the 9/ll attack, thanks again to Klinton&#039;s 8 years of islamofascist appeasement.  No less an authority than bin Laden said that it was precisely Klinton&#039;s retreat from Somalia that emboldened them to begin planning the 9/11 attack.  Klinton also had a chance to nail bin Laden when the Seals had him in their sights.  All that was necessary to take him out was the go ahead.  But Klinton got word that the call was coming and hid out, until the window had passed.  This we know, because Klinton&#039;s National Security Advisor, Sandy Burger, said so.  Burger as you may recall, later got the name Burglar, when he stole documents from the national archives and destroyed them. </p>
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		<title>By: clarespark</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[clarespark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2013 02:47:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is true that 60s New Leftists were cultural radicals, and can be said to have launched the last installment in the culture wars. But these differences are longstanding rifts in what we think of as a unified Western civilization. It was  never unified. But we do enjoy a measure of cultural pluralism, and that should be defended. Our differences are much larger than culture, having to with economics and differing view of the role of the federal government and the meaning of the Constitution in an urban, industrialized society. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is true that 60s New Leftists were cultural radicals, and can be said to have launched the last installment in the culture wars. But these differences are longstanding rifts in what we think of as a unified Western civilization. It was  never unified. But we do enjoy a measure of cultural pluralism, and that should be defended. Our differences are much larger than culture, having to with economics and differing view of the role of the federal government and the meaning of the Constitution in an urban, industrialized society. </p>
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		<title>By: Viet Vet</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/bruce-thornton/its-not-the-message-its-not-the-messenger-its-the-voter/comment-page-1/#comment-4184077</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Viet Vet]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2013 02:42:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Weak and pathetic people worry about the federal government &quot;caring&quot; about them.  To the extent that the federal government is supposed to care about people, it is in carrying out their oath to protect and defend the U.S. Constitution. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Weak and pathetic people worry about the federal government &quot;caring&quot; about them.  To the extent that the federal government is supposed to care about people, it is in carrying out their oath to protect and defend the U.S. Constitution. </p>
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		<title>By: Viet Vet</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Viet Vet]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2013 02:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The democrappers didn&#039;t force through &#039;Motor Voter&#039;, the &#039;Provisionary Ballot&#039;, and fight tooth and nails against &#039;Voter ID&#039; for no reason.  The left has been invested in voter fraud for decades.  Communism can&#039;t win fairly anywhere in the world. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The democrappers didn&#039;t force through &#039;Motor Voter&#039;, the &#039;Provisionary Ballot&#039;, and fight tooth and nails against &#039;Voter ID&#039; for no reason.  The left has been invested in voter fraud for decades.  Communism can&#039;t win fairly anywhere in the world. </p>
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		<title>By: Viet Vet</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Viet Vet]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2013 02:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Impossible to bring back jobs without the republicans in power.  The democaps are the antithesis of job production. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Impossible to bring back jobs without the republicans in power.  The democaps are the antithesis of job production. </p>
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		<title>By: Viet Vet</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Viet Vet]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2013 02:28:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yep.  The Libertarians got their candidate elected president. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep.  The Libertarians got their candidate elected president. </p>
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		<title>By: Viet Vet</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Viet Vet]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2013 02:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The left launched the &#039;Culture War&#039; in the 60&#039;s, they aren&#039;t about to call it off.  That will take a civil war. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The left launched the &#039;Culture War&#039; in the 60&#039;s, they aren&#039;t about to call it off.  That will take a civil war. </p>
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		<title>By: Viet Vet</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Viet Vet]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2013 02:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lock and load. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lock and load. </p>
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		<title>By: Viet Vet</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Viet Vet]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2013 02:20:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good logic. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good logic. </p>
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		<title>By: Viet Vet</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Viet Vet]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2013 02:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If we were still living by the Constitution, we would have none of these problems.  Not only is the nation in disarray and economic fiasco, but 50% of the U.S. populace have been disenfranchised by the de facto dissolution of the Constitution. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we were still living by the Constitution, we would have none of these problems.  Not only is the nation in disarray and economic fiasco, but 50% of the U.S. populace have been disenfranchised by the de facto dissolution of the Constitution. </p>
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		<title>By: WilliamJamesWard</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2013 02:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Precisely accurate observation!!!..........................William ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Precisely accurate observation!!!&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..William </p>
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		<title>By: Viet Vet</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Viet Vet]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2013 01:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This. </p>
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