Misrepresenting American Jewry

foxman-320x239Originally published by the Jerusalem Post.

Last month, we learned that in addition to targeting groups that that oppose abortion and that support limited government and lower taxes, the Obama administration’s Internal Revenue Service has apparently been singling out non-leftist pro-Israel groups.

According to numerous media investigations, beginning as early as March 2009, a consortium of powerful forces including the Palestinian Authority, The New York Times, columnists in The Washington Post, administration-allied anti-Israel groups including J Street and the Arab American Anti-Discrimination Committee, and the State Department lobbied the IRS to discriminate against these pro-Israel groups.

They alleged that since these groups opposed the administration’s policy of coercing Israel to vacate Judea, Samaria and northern, southern and eastern Jerusalem, they had no right to receive tax-breaks as nonprofit groups.

There is no legal basis for the claim that US groups which lawfully oppose government policy should be barred from receiving nonprofit status.

Since Israel’s presence and the presence of Jewish civilians in Judea and Samaria is completely legal, there is also no justification for vilifying those in the US or in Israel who support and work to expand that presence.

True, the centerpiece of the Obama administration’s Middle East strategy is to delegitimize the Jewish presence in these areas as a prelude to eliminating it. If nothing else, the contrast between Secretary of State John Kerry’s peripatetic efforts to restart peace talks between the Palestinians and Israel on the one hand, and his demonstrated indifference to the convulsions now engorging Egypt, not to mention the Obama administration’s generally lackadaisical attitude toward the Syrian civil war on the other hand, make that point.

Like President Barack Obama, Kerry has adopted the PLO’s position that talks between the Palestinians and Israel must be based on presumptive Palestinian sovereignty of all territories illegally captured by Egypt and Jordan in Israel’s War of Independence up to the 1949 armistice lines (falsely, and misleadingly referred to as the 1967 borders). Implicitly, the administration supports the PLO’s demand that for a Palestinian state to be formed, those areas – as well as much of Jerusalem – must first be ethnically cleansed of Jews.

The administration’s obsession with coercing Israel to make massive concessions to the PLO is based on its belief that the Palestinian conflict with Israel is the greatest source of all instability and anti-Americanism in the Arab world.

Every day, the utter folly and madness of this position is revealed. For the past two-and a- half years, it has been exposed in the chaos that has taken hold in state after state throughout the Arab world, and in the fanatical forces released by this chaos. True, Jew hatred is endemic throughout the Arab world. But as the demonstrations from Cairo to the killing fields in Aleppo have shown, this hatred has little impact on the actions of the hundreds of millions of people in the Arab world. When supporters of Egypt’s ousted Muslim Brotherhood president Mohamed Morsi yell “[Interim President] Adly Mansour is a Jew,” they are not suggesting they will put aside their differences with Egypt’s military government if Israel reaches a peace deal with the PLO.

Thirteen years ago this month, the Palestinians rejected peace and statehood at the Camp David summit. Since then, not a day has passed when they haven’t taken some action that made clear they have no intention whatsoever of ever making peace with Israel. Their identity is based on the negation of Jewish peoplehood and Jewish rights.

Just last week, this state of affairs was grotesquely reinforced when the Palestinian Authority’s television station presented two little girls reciting a poem in which they castigated Jews as “filth,” the “most evil among creations, barbaric monkeys, wretched pigs,” whom Jerusalem will “vomit” out, and who are condemned to “humiliation and hardship.”

But the folly of the US’s Middle East policy has made no difference to the foreign policy establishment, which has connived, according to media reports, to deny pro-Israel groups that reject this position their legal right to nonprofit status by siccing the IRS on them.

One of the most notable aspects of the story of alleged IRS discrimination against nonleftist pro-Israel organizations has been the silence of the mainstream American Jewish groups in the face of this apparent persecution.

What does the silence of major American Jewish groups on this issue tell us about the nature of these organizations that claim to speak for the American Jewish community? Obviously the alleged ideological discrimination toward predominantly Jewish pro-Israel organizations by the federal government is a matter that the overwhelming majority of American Jews find objectionable not to mention frightening.

And yet, the largest American Jewish groups have said nothing. They have not demanded any explanations from the IRS or the State Department. They have not demand apologies from the New York Times, J Street, the Arab American Anti-Discrimination or anyone else for maligning lawful organizations that operate well within the boundaries of law.

It’s possible that they are silent because they are afraid.

Groups like the Anti-Defamation League and the American Jewish Committee have multi-million dollar budgets and they prize their access to the White House and the State Department.

Their leadership may fear that by objecting to anti-Israel discrimination, they will stop getting invited to White House Hanukka parties or that they themselves will become the targets of unjustified Federal investigations.

Perhaps it is fear. But perhaps they are silent because they share the goal of silencing voices that refuse to accept the Obama administration’s assertion that it is pro-Israel to support the establishment of a Palestinian terror state in Israel’s capital and in its historic and strategic heartland.

Perhaps they wish to muzzle Jews who refuse to accept that it is pro-Israel to be anti-Israel.

Last month two rising Israeli political stars, Economy and Trade Minister Naftali Bennett and Deputy Defense Minister Danny Danon, expressed their opposition to a Palestinian state. In addition to stating his own opposition to such an entity, Danon also noted that Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu’s support for the establishment of a Palestinian state is shared neither by the majority of the members of the Likud’s Knesset faction, nor by the majority of the ministers in his coalition government, and that the government would oppose the establishment of such a state were the issue brought to a vote.

These statements were not unprecedented. Far from it.

In January Defense Minister Moshe Ya’alon noted that a Palestinian state would be an enemy of the Jewish state, saying “There are those who are trying to market [PA Chairman Mahmoud] Abbas as relatively moderate, but his goals are the same as those of Hamas. He does not believe in an agreement based on pre-1967 lines and he is refusing to come to the negotiating table.”

Rather than contend with the substance of these elected leaders’ remarks, or simply give them the respect due to duly elected representatives of the Israeli public, both the AJC and the ADL condemned them for speaking their minds. Even worse, they pretended their condemnations reflected the position of the Israeli government.

As the Zionist Organization of America noted, the AJC falsely claimed that Ya’alon asked Netanyahu to reprimand Danon – his deputy – for speaking the truth.

The AJC and the ADL condemned Danon and Bennett because they claimed that by speaking the truth they harmed the chances of the “two-state solution.”

But of course, that is absurd.

The reason the so-called “two-state solution” has no chance of success is because the Palestinians reject the Jewish state, not because Jews reject another Arab state. Pointing this out is not harmful. It is essential. And hiding this fact is not constructive to Arab-Israeli peace or to Middle Eastern stability.

The only party that benefits from American Jewish groups attacking duly elected Israeli leaders for stating the truth is the Obama administration. It is Washington, not Jerusalem that insistently clings to the ridiculous “two-state solution.”

It is Washington, not Jerusalem that insists a policy of reducing Israel to an indefensible, riven and weak Jewish statelet without its capital city or heartland is the magic bullet for solving everything from the global jihad to Arab illiteracy and misogyny.

By defending the administration’s unhealthy obsession with Israel, these American Jewish groups, with multi-million dollar budgets and automatic access to the media, are promoting an agenda that necessarily rejects the legitimacy of Israeli elections, and the views of the majority of Israelis. And Israelis are not the only people these groups betray by siding with the White House against facts. These positions also pit them against the majority of American Jews.

As the ZOA noted, polls of American Jews carried out by the AJC itself over the past two years show that not only do the majority of Israelis oppose the establishment of a Palestinian state, the majority of American Jews oppose it as well. A Gallup poll taken over the past year showed that the majority of Americans in general also oppose the establishment of a Palestinian state.

The silver lining in this story is that not all American Jews are taking their organizational leadership’s abuse of their values and views lying down. In addition to helping the ZOA to expand its reach, in community after community, activists, generally with no financial assistance, are forming new groups to advance the interests and values of America’s Jews that are being trounced by the major Jewish organizations.

Over the past 10 years independent activists have banded together under an assortment of names – Christians and Jews United for Israel, Children of Jewish Holocaust Survivors, JCCWatch and countless others to do the work that the American Jewish organizational leadership refuses to do.

In New York, JCCWatch has organized protests against the Jewish Federation-funded 92nd Street Y for repeatedly providing forums for outspoken Jewhaters including Alice Walker and Roger Waters to air their poisonous views.

In San Francisco, a nurse named Masha Merkulova founded the Rimon Club in 2011. The Rimon Club organizes events to educate the Jewish community about Israel. The Rimon Club recently formed Club Z, a youth group for San Francisco area Jewish youth that provides them an informal, fun setting to connect in a meaningful and non-apologetic way with Israel and their Jewish identity.

According to senior Israeli officials, and leaked PA documents, after Obama came into office, his senior advisers told their Israeli interlocutors that they controlled the American Jewish community. Under Obama, these Israeli leaders were told, there would be no more American Jewish voices opposing the two-state solution or opposing pressure on Israel.

With J Street, they said, AIPAC would no longer defend Israel.

Maybe they were right. But what is certainly true, is that despite its audits, its alleged denials of nonprofit status, and its American Jewish mouthpieces, the Obama administration has not silenced the American Jews. From coast to coast, authentic, courageous American Jewish groups are forming and organizing. Their members understand that there are things that are more important than multi-million dollar budgets and invitations to White House parties.

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  • Ron Lewenberg

    Organized Jewry in America doesn’t represent Jews, Judaism or Israel. Most organizations long ago switch their diety to Liberalism, and their book of Laws to the Democrat platform. Of course this isn’t new. It goes back to the New Deal, when Jews stayed silent when the FDR administration banned kosher butchering of chickens (see the Shechter NRA case) and mostly stayed silent on the Holocaust. Remember, Rabbi Stephen Wise spent more time attacking the Bergeson group than asking for aid for European Jews.

    • Kris Kristian

      Rabbi Stephen Wise must now be bowing down to Satan. He was a real bastard who served FDR who had the blood of many thousands of Jews on his hands
      FDR was a big Jew hater. He would not allow Jews who tried to escape the Nazi murder machine, from entering USA.
      As for AIPAC. They are so afraid of the Muslims Husein Osama bin Obama, that they are afraid to fight Obama’s anti Israel policy.
      Obama is trying, thru his Jew hating John Kerry, to destroy Israel, because “Abbas and his terrorists want a state” They have a state It is called Jordan
      Israel offered them 98% of Judea and Samaria, but instead of accepting this, Arafat created the intifada, which cost the lives of many hundred of Jews as well as Arabs.
      Abbas is Arafat in a suit. A liar and a terroist. and Obama supports this terorist..
      Obama has in his cabinet another Jew hater, Sec of Def.
      and do not forget Samantha Rice, who said that the US should invade Israel.
      Obama wants Israel to give most of the Jewish Biblical Holy city to the terrorists. The only claim Abbas and his murdering terrorists have,to Jerusalem, is that the Muslims desecrated the Holy Temple, by building their mosques on Holy Jewish site
      Has Obama forgotten how many thousands of allied soldier died, because of the Arabs/ Muslims betrail and sided with the Nazis.
      Now he wants to destroy Israel so the worst racisist, the Muslims can have what G-D promised the Jews. What the League of Nations promised the Jews. But when Britain had the Mandate over what was Palestine, they stabbed the Jews in the back, by creating Jordan Lebanon, Syria etc..
      Obama must not forget that Every nation which tried to destroy G-D’s people, the Jews, are no longer, but the Jews are still here, and will be after G-D destroys the Muslims.
      Why did the American Jews vote for the Muslim Obama?
      They voted Dems, no matter who would be their president.
      Had the Jews voted for a good, clean, honest man Mitch Romney, then the whole situation would have been different
      Why they voted for Obama to have a second term, idoes not make sence.
      Remember his speech in Cairo. He said that Islamis a great religion. “I know, because I am one of them”
      Are the American Jews so stupid, to have voted “one of them” back into the White House?.
      And the Muslims have been spreading lies about the Jews. “THE JEWS RUN AMERICAN BUSINESS, RUN THE WHITE HOUSE, AND CONTROL THE WORLD”
      The Arabs use Goebbels theory. The bigger the lie, the more often told the more the world will believe it.
      And Tutu spead his vile hatred by encouraging the BDS against Israel.
      His comments about Israel being a racisit state is the worst lie that can be spread and the world beieves this attentiion seeker, who makes sure his photo is en evey paper all over the world.
      Tutu will end like Stephen Wise. He will be bowing to Satan.

  • Poupic

    Time to impeach Barack Hussein! He did more than enough damage not only to Israel but to the USA as well and of course to Egypt. He threw “under the bus Mubarak, a 30 year ally of the USA who held back The Muslim Brotherhood, a sworn enemy of the USA who were allied to the Nazi’s and then the USSR. But Barack Hussein claimed that they were MODERATE! Can anyone with a modicum of knowledge about the Middle East stomach the claim that the Brotherhood is moderate? His obsession with Israel stem from his 20 years under the spiritual mentoring of Wright, helping Farrakhan and other anti- Semitic friends and advisors. Impeach the Muslim extremists plant in The White House, Barack Hussein.

    • Softly Bob

      I agree 100%

    • bj affordable

      ‘Can anyone with a modicum of knowledge about the Middle East stomach the claim that the Brotherhood is moderate?’
      The only ‘moderate’ Muslim is a dead one.

      • Charlie97

        So you want all 1.6 billion Muslims dead?

        • smanus

          He is referring to the annoying habit of radical Muslims to murder their more moderate brethren . . . Get it, Charlie?
          Or is this another “inconvenient truth”?

  • Bellerophons_Revenge

    Roughly the same percentage of Jews voted for Obama (and for Democrats in general) in 2012 as in 2008. Apparently Jewish support for Israel takes a back seat to Jewish support for Democrats. This is serious issue for not just Jews, but for all Americans. Why will people vote Democrat even when they are aware that Democratic policies are hurting them?

    “Tradition” (Tevya to the contrary not withstanding) isn’t enough to explain it.

    *if you don’t get it go rent “Fiddler on the Roof”.

    • OfficialPro

      because the Democrats support of things such as Gay Marriage and redistributionist policies is more important to them.

    • Charlie97

      I thought that Americans, voting in America, would vote for parties/policies that reflect American ideals/interests/aspirations. Why should an American person care about Israeli ideals/interests/aspirations? I ask this question in response to your sentence, “This is serious issue for not just Jews, but for all Americans.”

      Would you expect all Americans to pay the same attention to the politics of the U.K., or other Western allies?

  • Saw The Light

    I can’t wait to still Zimmerman walks and liberals crying about injustice this and injustice that.

    • Charlie97

      So you’re happy that a 17-year-old kid who was walking home with a pack of Skittles was murdered? Just so you can see the look on a few liberals’ face?

  • garyfouse

    As a Christian concerned about anti-Semitism, I have been amazed by the lack of support from so many mainstream Jewish organizations. In Orange County, Our biggest obstacle to informing the local community about anti-Semitism at UC Irvine has been the OC Jewish federation and to a slightly lesser extent, Hillel. The local ADL? Never see them around. I have no idea what they do. Foxman has denied anti-Semitism at UCI apparently for the same reason he shies away from confronting any Islamic anti-Semitism.

    Someone should ask the Federation in OC why they support the Olive Tree Initiative in spite of ample evidence they slant to the Palestinian narrative.

    The only national organization that has stepped to the plate for us in OC is ZOA as well as Stand With us.

    • defcon 4

      The anti-semitism at UCI is cleverly (or transparently) disguised as anti-zionism. I find myself wondering if Orange County is going to become the next Dearbornistan.

    • HappyandProud

      I completely understand, garyfouse; it’s a similar situation here in Boston. Some of what is going on is almost literally unbelievable. I don’t have any words of advice, but want to thank you for your hard work in combating anti-semitism. Jews are appreciative of and will not forget our Christian friends.

      • garyfouse

        Happy and proud,

        Thanks. It is crucial for Christians Jews, Hindus, Buddhists and even atheists to join up because we are all under threat. In Europe it is the Jews under fire. In the Muslim world, it is Christian, Baha’i and others. Meanwhile our media looks the other way.

  • LubbockPatriot

    I say this guy represents American Jewry. Plodding, scheming and ready to steal a buck!

    • UCSPanther

      Don’t bother us with your pathetic “Die Sturmer” caricatures.

      • LubbockPatriot

        That’d be “Der Stürmer,” Jewboy.

        • Advocatus

          Der Sturmer, yes. And does that make you any less of a pathetic little worm?

        • UCSPanther

          And you are as pathetic as your caricatures, squarehead.

        • Bklyn Farmer

          You’re quite the big man while tapping that keyboard in anonymity junior.

    • defcon 4

      Nazi? Or muslim? Or is there really any difference?

    • AmericaFirst

      Vey zmir, how ever did you come about a picture of UCSPanther?

      • UCSPanther

        Unfortunately for you, I would easily pass as an “Aryan Goyim”, and besides, I have seen supposedly “pure-blooded” aryans with far bigger noses than any Jew that I have seen…

      • UCSPanther

        And besides, one of your idols, Gamal Nasser had probably the most pronounced “snout” I have ever seen on anyone.

        You Nazis and your obsession with noses is probably one of the most bizarre fetishes that I have seen…

      • Bklyn Farmer

        Why do all these Islamist whore America’s symbols of patriotism as avatars, do they really think they are fooling anyone?

  • NeilAnon

    More anti white jewish propaganda

    • defcon 4

      You should follow the example set by your leader in the fuhrer bunker in ’44’. If you’re muslime please disregard.

    • Ron Lewenberg

      Another untermensch onanizes online.

      • defcon 4

        I didn’t even know such a verb existed.

  • JohnWV

    Israel’s Mideast malevolence is a purposeful sideshow. It enables the ever increasing Israeli/Jewish control of America’s government, finances and military-industrial complex. The Jewish state has occupied not just Palestine, but
    America too. Our democracy is being methodically destroyed from within and transformed into a world dominating racist ultrapower, the JEWISH STATE OF AMERICA.

    • 1Indioviejo1

      It is amazing to read stupid tripe in 2013 as if it were 1492. The Jews control the world? Really!! What does this say of the Billions of people who inhabit this planet and let a tiny group of people dictate their lives?

    • J Simson

      How about USA malevolence like supporting MB terrorists?

      America is losing stature because of idiots like you. You are so lost and confused. Unable to tell the difference between friend and foe consumed by Jew-hatred. You poor pitiful creature.

    • Poupic

      Go ahead make sure you are speaking about who is taking over America: Call Michigan Human Services : 1-855-275-6424 you will have a real shock learning the truth. Go ahead!

    • defcon 4

      There are psychiatric treatments for delusional thinking. Maybe you should look into them. Then again, your delusional antisemitism would fit right in to any islamofascist state.

    • UCSPanther

      You Jew haters are some of most pathetic conspirazoids out there.

      When are you going to learn that the world does not revolve around your conspiracy theories?

    • OfficialPro

      I’d rather live under a Jewish state than a Caliphate. Any day of the week.

  • 1Indioviejo1

    It is quite encouraging to know there are Jews who support Israel even in The USA and among people who have a lifelong shared vision with the liberal cause. Perhaps now the will do the right thing, and I hope, reexamine their leftist positions which have contributed so much to bring our country to the brink of disaster.

  • Attila_the_hun

    The reality is that, most American Jews, not only didn’t learn anything
    from the last 2000 years of Jewish history, they already forgot what
    happened 60 years ago. If 6 million death souls didn’t teach anything
    to the American Jews nothing will.

  • dizzyizzy

    It was obvious from Obama’s second book that he would view Israelis and Palestinians as equivalent victims. I wrote about this and oil politics here: http://clarespark.com/2009/09/11/oil-politics-and-obamas-view-of-israeli-history/. At the bottom of a blog is a recently declassified document exonerating Israel from the attack on the U.S.S. Liberty. See “Oil politics and Obama’s view of Israeli history.”

  • AmericaFirst

    Oy! I’m appalled to see the jew-hatred on this thread, especially on the Shabbos, of all days! I’m looking at you, @JohnWV:disqus @lubbockpatriot:disqus @NeilAnon:disqus , you anti-Semite mamzers, you! Try having a little rachmones on our pickle-snouted friends, why don’t you? Haven’t they been poisecuted enough, I ask you? Never mind the lying, cheating, theft, culture-wrecking, degeneracy, and mass-murder–these are the Chosen People we’re talking about here, and they can treat us goyim as they please! Who are you to say otherwise? Huh?

    • UCSPanther

      If you “Aryans” are so superior, then why do you supposedly keep getting outsmarted, manipulated and ruled by the Jews?

      I mean, what’s up with that?

      • AmericaFirst

        An excellent question, my pickle-snouted friend. Allow me to explain.

        White Europeans are demonstrably superior to any other group of people on earth in the realms of science, technology, philosophy, government, music, art, and literature. I would further argue that we’re a particularly trusting and welcoming lot, as evidenced by how wonderfully multicultural we’ve allowed our ancestral lands to become.

        But we don’t excel in everything, and this is where your noble tribe enters the picture. The jew indeed has his own particular talents: usury, deception, ethnocentrism, litigiousness, instigation, and the abilities to seamlessly assimilate and infiltrate. Like the venerable cockroach, you jews, above all, know how to survive, and you’re willing to go to any lengths and exploit any number of goyim to stay afloat. Whites simply lack these attributes in the abundance that jews do, and so we’ve historically allowed ourselves to become victim time and time again to jewish depredations. To elaborate on my above conceit, the lowly cockroach still manages to pose a serious threat to human health, despite the myriad ways in which human being are manifestly superior to the cockroach.

        But don’t get yourself in a schvitz, Shlomo! Oy, heavens no! Nothing lasts forever, and the jew will not always be on top. Indeed, if I were you, I’d start encouraging you and yours to begin looking for real estate in Antarctica.

        • UCSPanther

          Nothing like watching an arrogant Nazi try to answer a question by trying to drown it out with tired propaganda and thinking people don’t know better.

          You have bellowing about how you have been waking up to the “Jewish Bogeyman” since the medieval times, and you are still no farther ahead.

          You are a joke.

        • defcon 4

          I think a more appropriate pseudonym for you would be sick in the head.

          • UCSPanther

            A more appropriate pseudonym for this troll would be in my books “whitetrashwithdelusionsofgrandeur”

          • AmericaFirst

            Ah yes, anyone who opposes the jewish supremacist agenda is mentally ill. A student of the Frankfurt School, I see. Good for you, Bubbie! I’m sure you’ve made some aging jewess very proud, yes you have!

          • defcon 4

            Your delusional Jew hatred is the problem Farid, because it has nothing to do w/reality. But I’ll bet you’re so damn dumb you take the Protocols of the Elders of Zion as historical fact.

        • UCSPanther

          I just love watching you nazi trash try to answer questions by drowning them out with your delusional propaganda about how superior you supposedly are, and the same tired propaganda about how much you hate Jews and want to commit genocide.

          Sadly for you, the Jews of today aren’t your unarmed ones of WWII.

        • UCSPanther

          I just love watching how trash like you try to “answer” a question by drowning it out with delusional propaganda about how you are superior, and the same tired old propaganda about how Jews are supposedly “sub-human” and need to become genocide victims.

          You just can’t get over your side’s loss in WWII, or in all history, and it is pathetic.

          Unfortunately for you, the Jews of today aren’t the unarmed ones in WWII.

          Keep wasting your time. I’ll enjoy mocking you until you get the idea, assuming that EVER happens…

          • AmericaFirst

            I just love watching you post the same comment three times. Three times. Three times. Your blood sugar low over there, UCSPickleSnout? I hear an infusion of goyim blood does wonders for that. You should try it, why not?

        • OfficialPro

          For “america first” you sure talk like Eurotrash.

          • AmericaFirst

            “Eurotrash”–another mainstay of the jewspeak lexicon. Good for you!

          • OfficialPro

            no, it’s gaming lexicon. Because people that play on the European servers tend to be commie Eurotrash.

        • Bklyn Farmer

          You’re about as American as camel pie.

          • AmericaFirst

            What do we have here, a Brooklyn farmer, huh? Good for you, Itzhak, a man of the earth. What’s your crop over there, foreskins? Peyas perhaps?

          • Bklyn Farmer

            Cattle, so trust me I know BS and you’re full of it.

          • AmericaFirst

            Kosher slaughter, I hope?

        • Charlie97

          Your stereotyping of the entire Jewish peoples beggars belief!

          I am a Muslim and have to read broad-brush statements about us ALL THE TIME on these boards, and they are so unfair. You are not being fair, AmericaFirst. Surely you should judge individuals on their own merits rather than categorising whole groups of people like this?

  • Paul

    All living species have an extra-sensory perception that we humans can see and are awed by. So do humans. The nations that hate Jews, do so from an instinct that they themselves do not understand, but have spend 3,000 trying to justify it, and it embitters their lives. It is a spiritual disease, that no reason, or proof can extinguish. Those Jews that cower in the face of this pervasive human disease, will suffer the ultimate consequences for their personal failure understand its message. Because of the disease’s ability to deteriorate human reason, it acts as a source to effect clarity of mind or destruction of rational Will. It is obvious that the world in its degraded state, and will ultimately be destroyed by hatred. This is what is to be understood by Pharaoh heart being hardened, and Pharaoh against all reason, brought destruction to that generation in Egypt. This is not religious mambo-jumbo, history has proved this out dozens of times. These Jewish organizations and individuals that fail to support Jewish Rights out of fear, or shame in the face of the mental disease and confusion afflicting the world, will not have a very bright future.

    • Charlie97

      Interesting (no, seriously!).

      I have a question for you, if that’s okay. I am Muslim, and despite all the rubbish that I have read on these boards, we ARE taught that all people are equal. I sense from your post that you feel that the Jewish people are superior, but I could be way off the mark. Are Jewish people superior to the rest, according to you?

      • Paul

        To answer your question, the answer is No, Jews do not think in those terms, and I believe I speak on behalf the massive 14 million Jews that Christianity and Islam somehow failed to kill or convert to their religion, because of some kind of sense of Spiritual and Moral Superiority.

        • Charlie97

          Paul, every religion has some sense of spiritual/moral – I hesitate to use the word superiority – truth over other religions. I, as a Muslim, feel that the path that I have chosen to follow is the correct one, and I am sure that you, as a Jewish person feel the same. Of course, this sense (of being correct) does not allow the crimes that have been committed in the name of their religion. I believe that humans have base instincts (such as lust, greed, megalomania etc) that religion/religiosity is meant to curb. The crimes that people commit in the name of their religion due to some sense of spiritual or moral superiority, as you put it, are really just the desires of people to fulfil their desires for power/authority over others in the name of religion alone. Their hearts have no real spiritual light.

          • Paul

            Very well said. There is a huge advantage to choosing one’s path over being born into it. Just don’t lose your perspective and get carried away by Fundamentalist blindness. As you said there is no light in that, and at present it has become so cruel and dark, it makes Satan look good. In Judaism there is absolutely no mandate to force conversion or even intentionally encourage anyone to be Jewish, this is construed in two ways. One can say, ‘look those Jews think they are so superior we aren’t good enough for them”, or more truthfully, that it is meaningless if a person doesn’t choose to separate from the evils of personal and cultural egotism on their own free will, and accept the Divine obligations of Jews. Judaism is not belief-based, if one doesn’t believe in the Prophets, but acts in accordance with true Divine righteousness, he is acting Divinely. This is were Traditional Judaism differs, Behavior, not belief in a savior or specific Prophet defines one’s spiritual purity, it is 95% behavior, 5% belief. I like this formula because people usually can agree on what is good and bad behavior for the common good, but can never really connect on differences in belief.

          • Charlie97

            There is a huge crossover in belief between Jews and Muslims. Naturally, we will not agree on everything, but we do believe in one God (omnipotent and above the cognisance of man), the prophets (save for two) and the day of judgement.

      • smanus

        Charlie, I appreciate that you have a faith that is meaningful to you. As an honest Muslim, are you able to acknowledge the mindset of radical Islamists that calls for conversion or death to Christians throughout the Arab and Muslim world?

        • Charlie97

          Yes. And they are idiots, who through their ill-thought and frankly anti-Islamic actions, bring a whole heap of trouble for Muslims around the globe. It does not surprise me that there is anti-Muslim sentiment in culturally Christian countries, given the treatment of Christian peoples in Muslim-majority countries. As much as it pains me to say it, the just nations on the face of the earth today in 2013 are the Western Christian ones.

  • herb benty

    Leftist Jews betray their own people for, a pat on the back by the leftist B.S.party, MSM and the “rainbow” coalition. Feminists long ago betrayed women for the , marxist kool-aid of inclusion in the communizing of America. Black leftists betray free black people for the former’s commitment to atheistic marxism. Lastly, white, elite( in their own minds) leftists betray their own country with bankrupting policies, hate for anything that is even close to godliness and their insidious use of “Race” to justify anything. Blacks wern’t allowed to vote a hundred years ago? No ID required to vote is the answer!! Devious, God-denying Fools now run the country, how do you think America is doing?

  • Jsjk

    I have noticed that some Jews (due to their insecurity?) are utterly convinced that a Pamela Geller is a far more grevious and menacing threat than a Barack Hussain Obama. In one way, it is hilarious. Yet no amount of reason, logic, or argumentation can persuade them that they are in error. They mindlessly persist in their “inter-faith” get togethers, their whitewashing of the open contempt dispaplayed towards them, and the palatable antisemitism. Are they convinced that by shows of abasement, they can somehow appease and win the approval of their “masters” (Hussain and company) who utterly despise them? It’s a pathetic spectacle. They should know better by now.

  • garyfouse

    Defcon4. You are correct. Every May at UCI, the MSU begin their events with a preamble that denies theiri anti-Semitism and claims only to be anti-Zionist. Then they turn the mic over to people like Amir Abdle malik Ali.

    • defcon 4

      I admire your efforts at UCI, you’re like the lone voice of reason there. I wonder if other UC campuses are just as bad as UCI these days?

      • garyfouse


        Thanks. I would say yes, they are. UCI has the most aggressive MSU of all, but the good thing about UCI is that our humanities departments are fewer and most of our students are Asian-American-not involved in all the nonsense. We also have fewer wacko profs due to the smaller humanities.

        Unfortunately, there are only a handful of people on campus willing to stand up to the MSU. We do have some community support, however. As far as the established Jewish organizations like Hillel, the Jewish Federation of OC, and ADL. They are either missing in action or part of the problem. The Federation is part of the problem because they deny the problem exists and fight back against those who complain and try to bring public awareness.

        • defcon 4

          Is AMCHA active at UCI? I know they’re trying to fight the rising tide of (islamic) antisemitism at California’s public universities.

  • Les Legato

    Abe Foxman, chief cheerleader for the so-called “palestinians”.

  • garyfouse

    In many respects, yes, they are just as bad. UCI has the most aggreesive MSU of all the campuses, but 99% of the UCI students are not involved in the problem. Our overall student body is predominantly Asian-American and we don’t have the number of Humanities departments other campuses have; thus more of our students and professors are more level-headed. The problem is that so few here are willing to stand up to the MSU and their speakers. We do get community support, however.

  • garyfouse


    AMCHA founders Tammi Benjamin and Leila Beckwith are located at Santa Cruz, but have followed the UCI events and written letters to UC president Mark Yudof often regarding UCI topics such as the Olive Tree Initiative (a topic unto itself). They are both friends and we support each other’s efforts. Tammi is currently the target of a vicious campaign of defamation and intimidation within the UC system and she deserves everyone’s support.

  • Charlie97

    The U.S.A. is of course, allowed to have friends/alliances as she pleases. It seems from my reading, that the U.S.A.’s closest ally in the entire world is Israel; more so than its relationship with the U.K., or any other Western power. You should be honest and just say things as they are. Israel (the state) was created after WWII, and there has been a concerted effort to create a Greater Israel in order to fulfil Biblical prophecy (certainly on the part of religious Jews and Christians). The ends justify the means, even if it means pushing people (i.e. Arabs) out from lands that they previously owned/lived in. To the victor goes the spoils. It has always been like this and it always will be.

    I cannot for the life of me see why you, and others like you, are mealy-mouthed, and try to pass off this quite blatant attempt to create a Greater Israel as some type of politically legitimate endeavour. You wanted the land, and you took the land. End of.

    However, lots of people (even culturally Christian/Jewish people) do not care about the Bible, and what is contained therein. Just because there is a Biblical mandate matters not a jot to a lot of people. This Biblical prophecy has caused some Israelis/Jewish people (in consort with some Christians) to behave in quite an atrocious manner towards the previous inhabitants of the land formerly known as Palestine.

    Perhaps a Christian on this message board can tell me what is supposed to happen once Greater Israel is established. Will Christ re-appear and do you expect the Jewish people to accept him second time around?

    Perhaps (if there are any Jewish people reading this) a Jewish person can tell me what they expect to happen once Greater Israel i established. Is the long-awaited Messiah expected to appear? Will this Messiah be Jesus?

    It is clear (to me anyhow) that the common enemy of both the Christians and the Jewish people, according to what I have read on these message boards, are the Muslims; the enemy of my enemy is my friend. I’ve no doubt that the ultimate plan will come to pass – the creation of this Greater Israel. I would like to know what people think will come afterwards.