The Politics of Subversion


ShowImage.ashxOriginally published by the Jerusalem Post.

US Secretary of State John Kerry arrived in Israel on Wednesday to put additional pressure on Israel to make more concessions in land and political rights to the PLO in Judea and Samaria. To advance his current effort, Kerry brought along retired US Marine Gen. John Allen.

According to media reports, Allen presented a proposal to address Israel’s security concerns and so enabled the talks about Israeli land giveaways to proceed apace. The proposal involved, among other things, American security guarantees, a pledge to deploy US forces along the Jordan River and additional US military assistance to the IDF.

These Obama administration proposals are supposed to allay Israeli concerns that withdrawing Israeli forces from the Jordan Valley and the international border crossings with Jordan will invite foreign invasion and aggression, and increased Palestinian terrorism.

By controlling the Jordan Valley, (and the Samarian and Hebron mountain ranges), Israel is capable of defending the country from invasion from the east. It can also prevent penetration of irregular enemy forces, and on the other hand, maintain the stability of the Hashemite regime in Jordan. Without control over the areas, Israel can do none of these things.

Facing these undeniable facts, Kerry and his supporters have two main challenges. First they need to present themselves as credible actors.

And second they have to give Israel reason to trust the Palestinians. If Israel trusts the US, then it can consider allowing the US to defend it from foreign aggression. If the Palestinians are real peace partners, then Israel can surrender its ability to defend itself more easily, because it will face a benign neighbor along its indefensible border.

Unfortunately, Israel cannot trust the US. Kerry and the Obama administration as a whole lost all credibility when they negotiated the deal with Iran last month.

After spending five years promising they had Israel’s back only to stab Israel in the back in relation to the most acute threat facing the Jewish state, nothing Kerry or US President Barack Obama says in relation to their commitment to Israel’s security can be trusted. The fact that Kerry had the nerve to show up here with “security guarantees” regarding the Palestinians two weeks after he agreed to effectively unravel the sanctions regime against Iran in exchange for no concrete Iranian concessions on its nuclear arms program shows that he holds Israel in contempt.

But then, even if Kerry had all the credibility in the world it wouldn’t make a difference. The real problem with the notion of an Israeli withdrawal to indefensible borders is that those indefensible borders will be insecure. Both the PLO and Hamas remain committed to Israel’s destruction.

They will never agree to Israel’s continued existence in any borders. So the whole peace process is doomed. Kerry’s attempt to dictate security arrangements is a waste of time.

This much was again made clear last Friday by the PLO’s chief negotiator Saeb Erekat. Speaking to foreign supporters, Erekat said that the Palestinians will never accept Israel’s right to exist.

Their entire existence as a people is predicated on denying Jewish rights and nationhood. And, as Erekat put it, “I cannot change my narrative.”

The people who should be most upset both about Obama and Kerry’s destruction of US strategic credibility and about the utter absence of Palestinian good faith should be the Israelis wedded to the two-state paradigm. Former prime minister Ehud Olmert, former Shin Bet director Yuval Diskin, Justice Minister Tzipi Livni and Labor Party leader Issac Herzog among others, should be so vocal in their opposition to the deal with Iran that they make Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu look like a pushover.

It is they, not Netanyahu and his voters, who have insisted that Israel can make massive concessions to the PLO and sit on the sidelines with regard to Iran because the US will defend us. For the past generation it was they, not the political Right, that preached strategic dependency rather than strategic sovereignty.

These peaceniks, rather than Likud supporters should also be the ones leading the charge against PLO support for terrorism, incitement against Israel and rejection of Israel’s right to exist. The Right never wanted a Palestinian state to begin with. That’s the Left’s policy. If Netanyahu abandoned his support for Palestinian statehood, he would become more popular, not less so. And unless Palestinian society and the Palestinian leadership fundamentally transform their position on Israel, there is no way that Israel can be expected to surrender its ability to defend itself.

There is no way that Israel can consider the PLO’s territorial demands. And there is no way a Palestinian state can be established.

But the peaceniks don’t seem to care about these things.

Olmert uses every open microphone to attack Netanyahu.

Last week Olmert went so far as to say that Netanyahu, “declared war on the American government,” by openly criticizing the deal with Iran.

Despite the fact that PLO chief Mahmoud Abbas didn’t even respond to Olmert’s peace offer in 2008, Olmert places all the blame for the absence of peace on Netanyahu and his government.

For his part, on the eve of Kerry’s visit Diskin launched an equally unhinged attack on the government.

Speaking to the European funded pro-Palestinian Geneva Initiative, Diskin claimed wildly that Israel is more at risk from not surrendering to PLO demands than from an Iranian nuclear arsenal.

Last month Livni attacked Netanyahu for criticizing Obama’s deal with Iran and then claimed vapidly that Israel will protect itself from Iran by giving away its land to the PLO. Ignoring the fact that the Arab world is already siding with Israel against Iran, Livni said, “Solving the conflict with the Palestinians would enable a united front with Arab countries against Iran.”

This week newly elected Labor Party chief Issac Herzog went to Ramallah and chastised the government.

Praising Abbas for his “real desire to achieve peace,” while remaining silent about Abbas’s daily statements in support of terrorism, Herzog pledged “to try to put pressure on the Israeli government to take brave positions to achieve peace and security for our children.”

As for the deal with Iran, shortly after his election to head the Labor Party last month, Herzog lashed out not at the deal, and not at Obama for betraying his pledge to prevent Iran from becoming a nuclear power, but at Netanyahu. Netanyahu, he claimed, “has harmed our relations with the US and hasn’t brought about an improved agreement.”

Ignoring the fact that the Obama administration negotiated with Iran behind Israel’s back and then lied about the contents of what it had agreed to, Herzog seethed, Netanyahu “has created a total lack of trust between us and Obama rather than a trusting relationship.”

As polls taken over the past 20 years have shown, a majority of Israelis would be happy to make peace with the Palestinians, and pay a price in territory for doing so. But those polls have also shown that the public believes the Palestinians when they say they want to destroy the Jewish state. The Israeli public does not think people like Abbas, who praise mass murderers of Jews as national heroes, have “a real desire to achieve peace.”

And, as recent polls show, following the US deal with Iran, while the public continues to prize Israel’s alliance with the US, it no longer trusts the US government.

The fact that the likes of Olmert, Livni, Diskin and Herzog and their followers are not at the forefront pressuring the Palestinians to change their ways and demanding that the Obama administration demonstrate its trustworthiness, but rather have directed all their energies to attacking the government, indicates that peace with the Palestinians is not their primary concern.

Rather it would appear that their main concern is their personal power and prestige.

By siding with the Americans against the government, these senior figures seek to exploit the public’s support for the US. By presenting Netanyahu as anti-American, and claiming that he is responsible for Obama’s abusive behavior, they hope to convince the public to embrace them as guarantors of the strategic alliance. Certainly that is Olmert’s goal as he looks past his criminal prosecutions and begins to plot his course back to the center of power.

As for their support for the Palestinians against their government, here the motivation is external.

Israelis do not trust the Palestinians. And they certainly do not trust Abbas. But the Americans and Europeans have made Palestinian statehood the centerpiece of their foreign policies and view Abbas as the indispensable man.

Livni had no political future after she lost the Kadima party primary to Shaul Mofaz last year.

Her hopes of becoming prime minister had ended. But then she went to Washington, met with Hillary Clinton, and announced she was forming a new party and running on a pro-Palestinian, pro-Obama platform. She won a paltry six seats, which she took from other leftist parties.

But that was enough. Bowing to US pressure to prove he was serious about appeasing the Palestinians, Netanyahu appointed Livni justice minister and put her in charge of the talks with the PLO. If Livni had been less supportive of Obama or of the PLO, she would not be where she is today.

If the behavior of these people were just a matter of shameless jockeying for political power their actions would be bad enough. But they cause immeasurable damage to the country.

By accusing Netanyahu of blocking peace between Israel and the Palestinians, they embolden the Palestinians to escalate their political warfare against Israel, and maintain their steady anti-Semitic incitement. Indeed they lay the moral groundwork for justifying terrorism against Israel.

Livni, Olmert, Diskin, Herzog and their allies also give political cover to outside forces to adopt anti-Israel positions and policies. Why shouldn’t the European Union boycott Israeli goods when the former prime minister claims that Israel is the reason there is no peace? Why should Obama care what Netanyahu tells Congress when Olmert says Netanyahu is at war with the US? How can Israel justify attacking Iran’s nuclear installations when Olmert says it is strategically idiotic to even train for such an attack and Diskin says that we need a PLO state more than we need to block Iran’s nuclear ambitions? Diskin’s unhinged attack against Netanyahu on the eve of Kerry’s visit was hardly coincidental.

And we should expect more such displays as Obama becomes more open in his hostility towards Israel.

As long as we have a seemingly endless supply of senior officials willing to harm the country to advance their personal goals, domestic subversion will remain a key weapon in the international arsenal against us.

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  • 45autofun

    The last paragraph of the article says,

    “As long as we have a seemingly endless supply of senior officials
    willing to harm the country to advance their personal goals, domestic
    subversion will remain a key weapon in the international arsenal against
    us”.

    We here in the States do not have the geographical challenge Israel has by being surrounded by hostile, Arab countries, but we do have the exact same strain of left wing politicians here that are subverting their homeland at every opportunity.

    I’m just guessing, but I’d say a good estimate is at least half of the democrat caucus in the House and maybe a third of the Senate qualify as subversives.

    If they weren’t left wing subversives, they would have long ago taken the walk to the White House to tell Obama it was time to go. Pigs will fly before that ever happens.

    • chagrined

      Hitler offered six million Jews to any country that would take them – none obliged. Europeans killed Jews and were responsible for the Holocaust, not the Palestinians! European Jewish refugees went to Palestine and took homes and land that belong to the Palestinians making the Palestinians refugees. So Jews are to the Palestinians what Hitler was to them? Are Jews any less evil? Jews owned 7% of Palestine at this time. The oppressed are now the oppressors and the American people don’t want to be complicit in this oppression of the Palestinians.

      • objectivefactsmatter

        “Europeans killed Jews and were responsible for the Holocaust, not the Palestinians! European Jewish refugees went to Palestine and took homes and land that belong to the Palestinians making the Palestinians refugees.”

        Their justifications in the land of Israel have nothing to do with the German NatSoc holocaust. Nothing.

        “So Jews are to the Palestinians what Hitler was to them?”

        Nope.

        “Are Jews any less evil? Jews owned 7% of Palestine at this time.”

        Which land, which time? Show your work.

        “The oppressed are now the oppressors and the American people don’t want to be complicit in this oppression of the Palestinians.”

        Dummy, the “Palestinians” sided with Hitler. And they got a head start as the oppressors in the 1920s or earlier. So it’s more like Hitler joined them in oppressing the Jews. The Jews finally got the upper hand and freaks like you invent alternate histories to justify your continued demonization of them.

        So no, they are not the Nawzees of today, but I can think of some more likely candidates if that’s what you need. Got a mirror?

        • BenJabo1Machal

          Chagrined & Objective, there NEVER was an Arab Palestine PERIOD!!!

          The
          bare basics:

          There is no Palestinian culture, language, nor cuisine. There has never been a
          land called “Palestine” ruled by “Palestinians.”

          (FYI, Philistines were Greek and they ate
          pork. Delilah and Goliath were Philistines. Philistines died out.)

          There
          has never been a Palestinian president or Prime Minister or government or
          military.

          This
          whole notion of there being a Palestine is a recent and false invention, based
          on lies and violence, with NO intention for peaceful co-existence with Israel,
          or any other nation who won’t kowtow to them.

          Since the 1880′s, it was the Jewish pioneers
          who began to redeem the land, Israel, from wilderness.

          Only thereafter, did the Arabs come from other
          lands to benefit from what the Jews built and try to take it away from them. If
          anyone really wants peace with Israel, they MUST recognize Israel’s existence,
          and Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, which it is.

          There is no “historical” Palestine – it’s Israel.
          The Romans wanted to punish the Jews after their defeat at Masada
          in the first century. The Roman emperor Hadrian meant to erase the name of Israel and Judah,
          so that there would be no memory of the country that belonged to that Jewish
          people. He wanted a name that would humiliate the Jews, and found that in an
          extinct people called the “Philistines,” the enemies of the Israelites.

          • pupsncats

            You ought to know by now the indoctrination and brainwashing by the left in this country is so thorough when it comes to the state of Israel that no truth is ever going to be accepted by those who never question the veracity of what their leftwing controllers teach and tell them. History has been revised to the point that if these robots were taught that Mohammed actually discovered America, they would believe it.

        • slhancock

          There have ALWAYS been Jews living in what the British named Palestine. They were NEVER EVER totally obliterated. It was their national home for over 2 millennia. Yes, others lived there because as the land was conquered by one country after another, it was customary for these conquering “kings” to place other displaced people among them in order to prevent the nationals from becoming strong enough to rise up against them. They would not led into a strong political enemy of the conqueror.
          As for the term Palestine, it comes from the word Philistine, and you only have to read the OT portion of the Bible to understand that God told Israel when they conquered the land to destroy these people, but they were not obedient, so they had to ‘deal with them’ constantly. God did not want the surrounding nations to influence Israel into idolatry. Allah is a moon god, not the One True God!

      • SCREW SOCIALISM

        Since europeans murdered millions of Jews, the proper punishment for europe, AKA Eurabia,

        is to take 100% of the so called “palestinians”.

        Justice.

        • Jenny

          Do you have any concept about the historical realities of life say 300 years ago? I can assure you that most people do not. You are arguing from a modern perspective. You have NO CLUE about native Americans, how they fought each other, the cannibalism, the shocking brutality of their treatment of captives. Nothing today compares. The native Americans fought wars for territory and lost. Get that through your head.

          Also, try to get that fifty pound chip off your shoulder. Europeans this and European that. YOU are also a European!

        • defcon 4

          How would you determine who is really a “palestinian” and who is merely a lying arabic muslime?

      • SCREW SOCIALISM

        Are you “chargrined” over your racist, brutal occupation of Native American land of North America?

        When will you pack up and leave, and pay reparations to the Native American people?

        • pupsncats

          What you are suggesting is there is absolute proof that no other humans ever occupied the land called America except the Indians who can also prove they did not migrate from some other part of the world.

          Can you provide that proof?

          If not, then do you believe the entire country should be turned over to the Indians to do as they see fit?

          Are you willing to turn over any and all property and wealth you obtained from living on Indian’s land to the Indians? If you aren’t, then aren’t you a total hippocrit?

        • defcon 4

          Um, there are some native American tribes that need no such reparations, as they live the lives of Saudi sheikhs due to Indian gaming casinos. Near Palm Springs, CA there is a native American tribe where each member receives a guaranteed income of some ten thousand dollars a month, for no other reason than being a member of the tribe. There are others. BTW, every native American in the US is eligible for an all expenses paid university education. Native American tribes also have semi-autonomous tribal lands that are self governing.

  • A Z

    If Kerry is willing to have his daughters live in the West Bank for 2 generations and live there as not as special guests of the PLO, then maybe his words have meaning.

  • Texas Patriot

    I can’t imagine that Israel is even the slightest bit Leftist at this point in time. Give up land for peace? Great idea! Count on U.S. defense guarantees? Absolutely! Does anyone in Israel imagine that either one of these ideas is anything other than sheer fantasy?

    • defcon 4

      It’s just about as hard to imagine as anyone believing islam is a religion of peace in the US.

  • A Z

    Israel traded land for peace when it pulled out of Gaza.

    It “got” no peace.

    Therefore why trust the PLO, the Palestinian authority or any other Palestinian group.

    Kerry has not had any credibility since Winter Soldier.

    Barack Obama has no credibility with the majority of Americans since the “If you like you health care plan you can keep it. PERIOD!”

    So why are these liars even trying?

  • v

    I would have imagined that by now that all Israelis, left, right or center, would have unified under one policy which only supports Israel’s own existence and survival in the face of constant threat of anihilation by the Palestinians and the Iranians. What’s wrong with those idiots, don’t they learn their lessons.

    • fush

      truly a stiff next people…

      • objectivefactsmatter

        All “peoples” have stiff necks.

    • pupsncats

      Kind of like the majority of American Jews, isn’t it, who are liberal/Progressive/Communists and support the annihilation of America?

  • antioli

    Does Kerry need to be swift boated again???

  • chagrined

    With the death of the revered Mandela, we are reminded of the similarity of Israeli apartheid and white South Africa apartheid, both vulgar repressions of the most basic human rights of the oppressed. It is time for the world to stand up to this oppression and do to Israel what the world did to South Africa – divestment, boycott and sanctions. We should restore dignity to the Palestinians, return their homes and land stolen by Israeli thugs. END THE OCCUPATION!

    • objectivefactsmatter

      “With the death of the revered Mandela, we are reminded of the similarity of Israeli apartheid and white South Africa apartheid, both vulgar repressions of the most basic human rights of the oppressed.”

      Liar.

      “It is time for the world to stand up to this oppression and do to Israel what the world did to South Africa – divestment, boycott and sanctions.”

      Go ahead and boycott who you want. It won’t matter when your government aid runs out what you want to buy.

      “We should restore dignity to the Palestinians…”

      Yes, the dignity of jihad. Restore dignity. That’s what the world needs more of: dignified jihadis.

      “…return their homes and land stolen by Israeli thugs…”

      People that were punished brought it on themselves. Don’t make war if you can’t accept the consequences.

      “…END THE OCCUPATION!”

      A $15 an hour minimum wage will add jobs to the economy and expand GDP! 0′Bama said so! All hail our leftist savior! Never question any leftist dogmas…

      ALL HAIL!!!

      • BenJabo1Machal

        I hate to bust your bubble, however you BS is making me do it.

        You have the
        misconception that Israel

        “Grabbed”"
        the land of others.

        The fact is that the
        Palestinian’s are a ‘RECENT INVENTION, as attested to by Fahti Hammad of Hamas,
        who has many Video’s on the subject.

        Hamas Minister of the
        Interior and of National Security Fathi Hammad Slams Egypt
        over Fuel Shortage in Gaza
        Strip, and Says:

        “ PALESTINIAN’S ARE “INVENTED
        PEOPLE”

        PALESTINE NEVER EXISTED

        Hamas Minister of the
        Interior and of National Security Fathi Hammad Slams Egypt
        over Fuel Shortage in Gaza
        Strip, and Says:

        “Half of the
        Palestinians Are Egyptians and the Other Half Are Saudis”

        Al-Hekma
        TV (Egypt)
        - March 23, 2012 – 03:09

        HIS VIDEO IS ON YOUTUBE

        “FATHI HAMMAD”

        Hamas official reveals where Palestinians came from

        “Half of the Palestinians
        Are Egyptians and the Other Half Are Saudis”

        Al-Hekma
        TV (Egypt)
        - March 23, 2012 – 03:09

        —————————-

        Another of his Video’s brags about Hamas using their own people for
        Human Shields

        If you should want to dispute what Fathi Hammad has said, please take
        it up with him, since he said it

        Hamas trains future terrorists
        in Kindergarten, several Videos are also on Youtube, showing their Gradation Classes as
        Terrorist’s of the future

    • Hass

      Occupation my arse!

      Israeli apartheid hey? Your imbecilic statement shows you’ve no grasp of reality for that part of the world.

      And it doesn’t surprise me you idolised that terrorist scum Mandela just like those so called Palestinians.

    • BenJabo1Machal

      Haven’t you ever
      heard of Dhimmi’s or Dhimmitude, the MUSLIM extreme version of religious
      persecution?

      If you haven’t,
      you should take the time to look it up

      “MUSLIM DHIMMITUDE” IS “APARTHEID”

      For well over a millennium, across
      three continents – Asia, Africa, and Europe -
      non-Muslims have experienced jihad war ideology, and its ugly corollary
      institution, Dhimmitude. Today, the debate among Muslim scholars regarding the
      theological “correctness” of “lesser” versus
      “greater” jihad are meaningless to the millions of non-Muslim
      victims- Christians, Jews, Zoroastrians, Hindus, and Buddhists

      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhimmitude

      http://www.dhimmitude.org/

      “MUSLIM DHIMMITUDE” IS “APARTHEID
      & RACISM”

      For well over a millennium, across
      three continents – Asia, Africa,and Europe – non-Muslims
      have experienced jihad war ideology

      http://www.dhimmitude.org/

      Dhimmitude

      let’s use you very
      own Dhimmitude as a comparison

      For well over a millennium, across
      three continents – Asia, Africa, and Europe -
      non-Muslims have experienced jihad war ideology, and its ugly corollary
      institution, Dhimmitude. Today, the debate among Muslim scholars regarding the
      theological “correctness” of “lesser” versus
      “greater” jihad are meaningless to the millions of non-Muslim
      victims- Christians, Jews, Zoroastrians, Hindus, and Buddhists

      http://www.dhimmitude.org/

      http://archive.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=20902

    • defcon 4

      Um what happened to the Jews and synagogues that used to exist in the Gaza Strip again? How many Jews live in the Gaza Strip again? How are the few Christians treated by the islam0nazis who run Gaza again? What happened to the formerly large and Jewish populations of Syria, Iraq, Iran, Yemen and Egypt again? Why does Israel practice religious freedom whereas no islamic state anywhere on this earth does? STuff it where the sun don’t shine Hamid Hamastan.

    • SCREW SOCIALISM

      chargrined,

      Chant this…
      From the River to the Sea
      Pal-e-SWINE Will Never Be!

      RESIST WORLD-WIDE ISLAMOFASCISM which is at War with Jews, Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, Bahais, Zoroastrians and the wrong kind of Muslim.

      • defcon 4

        Just as with nazis, there is no “right” kind of muslime.

    • pupsncats

      We should end the occupation of anarchists, Communists, Socialists, Progressives, and liberals in America who are vulgar repressionist’s of human life, human dignity, freedom, morality, virtue, and God.

  • objectivefactsmatter

    “Ignoring the fact that the Obama administration negotiated with Iran behind Israel’s back and then lied about the contents of what it had agreed to, Herzog seethed, Netanyahu “has created a total lack of trust between us and Obama rather than a trusting relationship.””

    Credit where credit is due, benefit of the doubt and all that…you’re not supposed to trust a jackal.

    • BenJabo1Machal

      Obama has double crossed most of America’s friends & allies, Start with Saudi Arabia, Israel & let’s not forget Afghanistan
      Your Obama has lied to 320 million Americans, to whom he had repeatedly promised that they could keep this Health Insurance & Doctors PEROD!!
      He repeated those same lies almost 40 times, or have you forgotten?
      Obama is your Jackal, except you’re too blind to see it

      • defcon 4

        Saudi Arabia, an “ally” or “friend”? Saudi Arabia is one of the two top financiers of worldwide islam0fascist terrorism and a totalitarian, apartheid, theocracy to boot.

  • pupsncats

    Know thy enemy. Under the Obama administration, the U.S. is Israel’s enemy.

  • Consider

    A small reminder.
    It was the Israeli socialists (that is, the horrendous “Left”) who:
    1.Founded Israel
    2.Won all the wars where survival was at stake.
    Period.

    • defcon 4

      The leftists gave up Gaza and we’ve all seen what that has accomplished.

    • Wiseoldman

      A completely new situation exists today.

      We do not live in 1956, 67, 73, or even in 2007!

      You should bear in mind that the main Palestinian ‘negotiating parties’, remain steadfast to their IMMUTABLE vows to destroy Israel in stages, after Israel becomes weaker by conceding more territory!

      • Consider

        While the Palestinian desire to destroy Israel is as present now as it was always, the big regular armies lavishly equipped with Soviet/Russian and/or Western weapons which bolstered that desire in the past, are in disarray.
        Israel has never been in a better military situation since its creation.
        The ‘Left’ fought and won wars when the situation was desperate.

  • slhancock

    Israel cannot even trust the US any longer. This is chilling! I pray Israel refuses this offer! We MUST let our support for Israel and her maintaining defensible borders be heard ASAP!