Beaten for Being Gay in a Black Neighborhood


Picture 10Being gay is “about the worst thing you can be in black culture,” said Don Lemon, a gay, black news anchor at CNN.

Sometimes you see can see the antipathy in hip hop videos. Other times at the ballot box. Still other times black hostility towards gay people is expressed in the dozens and dozens of hyper-violent episodes of black mob violence against gay people. Some on video.

These crimes are a perfect storm of silence: Predators do not want to get caught. Victims do not want to identify themselves as gay. And newspapers loathe reporting black mob violence.

Two recent cases within a week this month in Cleveland are representative.

Jared Fox is a Brooklyn teacher who returned earlier this month to his native Cleveland to visit family and friends — and a gay bar called Cocktails Cleveland located in a black neighborhood.

Police reports indicate that groups of black people had been hanging around the parking lot earlier that evening. And on other occasions.

But Fox did not know about any of that when he parked his car and was making his way to the lounge. Soon after, as he would later describe on YouTube, he realized he was in trouble:

I saw a group of youth on the same side of the street. So I crossed the street. My instincts and my experience with kids told me that kids in large groups are not up to any good. Especially on a side street in this part of Cleveland.

They charged and surrounded me. They asked what’s in my pockets. I said nothing. I’m broke.

They said, ‘You are one of those broke faggots.’ Then I knew why they picked me. That I was an easy target.

Then they just started beating me. Ruptured my ear drum. Punched my glasses into my face. Stomped on me when I was on the ground. My ribs. My back.

They said ‘Give me your phone. Your wallet.’

I got up and started running. They tackled me again. This time they were stomping on my head. Calling me a faggot. And queer. They started to kick my face.

One of them said Do you want to die? Do you want to die?

I threw my phone And my wallet. ‘I told them my credit cards are in the back. My pin is 1234. Take it please its all I got.’

Eventually, Fox made his way to the bar, where employees called police.

Then the police came. Did I know these kids had been sitting there before? No.

I found out from the bartender that the cops had been called three times in the hour before I was attacked. These kids were sitting there waiting.

It wasn’t until I was attacked that someone came.

When the police officers came, Did they get out of their car? Did they ask to see the footage? No.

Nothing. They did nothing.

News accounts in straight and gay media were full of outrage and sympathy and calls for justice. And stories about how this had happened before.

Full of everything except one piece of truth. For that, we have to turn to the police reports for something local media would not say: The predators were black.

Some were wearing hoodies. Some even had masks.  And this was not their only attack that night. A few weeks after the crime, local media published a video of the attack.

It is not uncommon for victims of racial violence, like Fox, to hesitate to describe the race of their attackers. Having been victimized once by an assault, many are reluctant to become victims again by being accused of racism. Some say identifying their attackers as black would be “too divisive.”

Cleveland media may be too squeamish to report the alleged perpetrators were black. But people who leave on-line comments are not.

This raises the ire of those who believe — despite exponentially higher rates of violence and crime among black people — this crime had nothing to do with race: Said one poster at a New York Daily News account of the beat down: “I see a lot of you racist humps couldn’t wait to write your garbage  About black ppl. OMG White folks have centuries of none sense killing and rape dating back 100 of years.”

Another pointed out that white people from the suburbs come to the neighborhood to buy drugs. Since they are guilty of crime as well, it is not fair to single out black people.

At YouTube, Hannah Lane offered a prediction: “It’s absolutely criminal; those men need to be caught & punished for their horrifying actions b/c THEY WILL DO IT AGAIN.”

And they did. Same place. One week later. This time to the manager, Rick Scardino. The police report describes the scene: Scardino was on the patio of Cocktails Cleveland when “10 young B/M (black males)” arrived on the other side of the fence.

They “began yelling ‘you faggots better get out of here. We don’t want you faggots around here’.”

They were “throwing rocks over the fence at the victim and other patrons sitting on the patio.” Scardino and others chased the mob away. But they came back. This time with sticks and a broom handle. They found Scardino outside and threatened to sodomize him with the broom and “beat his faggot ass with this.”

Then they assaulted him. “I reached in my pockets for a can of Mace. A boy in a white shirt yelled, ’Faggot’s got a gun!’ and they scattered,” Scardino told Edgeonthenet.com.

Police arrested one suspect: a 13-year-old black person. The manager of the bar says there were at least three other cases of mob violence prior to the attack on Fox.

All the suspects in all of the attacks are black. That was never reported in any daily paper or gay media outlet.

Cleveland is hardly alone. In the Chicago gay neighborhood of Streeterville, residents describe black mob on gay violence as an everyday fact of life. And as hard as the local papers try to not let people know the victims are gay and perpetrators are mobs of black people, sometimes the information gets out anyway. Even if by accident.

After a series of attacks on gay people in Streeterville in 2011 — including a black mob stabbing a gay man on video — Chicago Alderman Tom Tunney belled the cat when he spoke with the local ABC news affiliate:

There tends to be large groups of minority youths on Halsted. Whether they are patronizing the businesses or not, it’s an area where they feel safe. It’s a balancing act that we’re tying to make it safe for everyone.

If anything it has gotten worse since then. At least one group has a Facebook page to fight the violence. But more and more people are saying it has been happening too often, for too long, for them to stay in that neighborhood any more.

One gay, black video blogger summed it up on YouTube:

A rash of violent crime by black youth in Chicago’s predominately gay and white Lakeview neighborhood (aka, Boystown) has residents on edge, and sparking age old tensions between Blacks and the White GBLT community. It’s been going on for a couple of years. People are getting very, very frightened.

The blogger says white people are afraid to mention the race of their attackers, for fear of being labeled a racist. “But if it’s true, it’s true,” he said.

Examples of black mob on gay violence is also easy to find in Atlanta, New York, Washington, D.C. Seattle and dozens of other cities around the country.

In Atlanta, mobs of black people attacked dozens of gay people at an annual film festival called Screen on the Green. This went on for several years until the event was cancelled in 2011.

Also in Atlanta, a video of a group of black people taunting and beating a gay person went viral last year, leading to their arrests.

In Washington, D.C., gays are a frequent target for black mob violence. Not just in the streets surrounding the clubs and cafes, but also on bike paths.

In June of last year, three black people were accused of hurling anti-gay slurs at a gay teenager, then holding him down while they stabbed him. Then it got really strange in the reader comments section: “I can’t understand why they are angry – did the guy ask them for sex?,” said black commenter Debra Winfield. “Stupid people do stupid things.”

Other readers excoriated her for blaming the victim. Winfield doubled down, saying they were stupid. Over at the Washington Post in a report on the same story, one gay commenter summed it up and said what the paper would not:

The level of homophobia within the black community is overwhelming, and in a most calculated way, they spin it to blame gays, when they themselves are voting against LGBT rights at best, and ATTACKING gays at worse. Time to confront the elephant in the room and stop being so politically correct. Black homophobia is celebrated in the black community and no longer does the LGBT community have to stand for it.

A few months later, not too far away, five black people beat up a gay guy. But first they called him a lot of names. The gay media occasionally identifies the alleged perpetrators by race. The Washington Post and other local media?  Never.

The gay papers are strangely silent on this black-on-gay violence as well. But every once in a while, someone speaks out. After exit polls revealed black people voted overwhelmingly against gay rights initiatives in California and New York, gay activist and writer Dan Savage could not hold it in any longer:

I’m done pretending that the handful of racist gay white men out there  … are a bigger problem for African Americans, gay and straight, than the huge numbers of homophobic African Americans are for gay Americans, whatever their color.

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  • Aizino Smith

    “gay bar called Cocktails Cleveland located in a black neighborhood”

    “Being gay is “about the worst thing you can be in black culture,” said Don Lemon

    So why put a gay bar in a black neighborhood?

    They should have a right to do so, but what is right and what is feasible are two different things.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Petra-Thompson/100000036809170 Petra Thompson

      Perhaps the bar was there before the neighbourhood was “a black neighbourhood”?

      • ziggy zoggy

        Exactly. And why should Blacks have tribal neighborhoods like baboon troops?

  • Chezwick

    I have no doubt that there is anti-gay animus in black, youth culture. But if you really want to get down to it, these thugs are looking for ANY excuse and ANY target of opportunity to practice their mayhem. They are monsters….and the REAL value of this story – pathetically – is that the sexual orientation of the victims creates sympathy and publicity that otherwise wouldn’t exist.

    As Orwell once wrote, we’re all equal, but some of us are more equal than others.

    • ziggy zoggy

      Any excuse and any target of opportunity? You mean any gay target.

      • Chezwick

        No, I mean ANY target. You think if these victims happened to be straight,…and just happened to be walking nearby, that they WOULDN’T have been assaulted and robbed? I sure don’t!

        • ziggy zoggy

          The jigs who attacked Fox were hanging around outside a gay bar. There was nothing random about it – and they let other Blacks pass by until a White person came out.

          Try again.

    • truebearing

      Blacks attack gays frequently, yet are notorious for homosexuality in prison, where a high percentage – but not high enough, apparently — of young black men end up.
      Could it be that the gays they are beating are all white? I’d be willing to bet a serious amount of money that the vast majority are.

      • Guy Fromage

        There’s gay, then there’s gay. See the Nazis, for example.

      • Sylvester

        I have hear news report in the Boys town neighborhood of Chicago they were also attacking black gays as well.

        But I think you are on to something. for them it would be a 2-fer.

  • Marlin B. Newburn

    The other reality, besides the black assaults on gays, is that when blacks get to prison, many, if not a majority, go for “livin’ on the down low” meaning they readily seek out sex with other males. Black homosexuality is accepted by incarcerated blacks, and it’s on the rampant side. They are almost exclusively the perpetrators of prison rape.

    There are white gay/bisexual felons, but blacks are by far the most aggressive and much greater in number. Blacks behind the wire also believe is that if they’re pitching and not catching, they’re not homosexual. An estimate of their collective IQ is around 85, judging from those I’ve evaluated or had referred to me for testing.

    I worked as a prison psychologist for several years.

  • Arf

    Hmmm…Maybe the gay community (probably the most left leaning of the protected minority groups) should move from black neighborhoods to white Arab Muslim neighborhoods. Queers for Palestine I’m sure would be very welcome there. But just in case they’re not, maybe it is time for gays to quit vilifying white Christians and start speaking truth to our black gay President and people like Barney Frank.

  • truebeme

    While no one should physically attack homosexuals, a lot of people are justifiably offended when they see two homosexuals kissing and/or holding hands in public. They believe homosexual activity is immoral and don’t want their children exposed to what they consider bad examples. Heterophobic homosexuals should go back in the closet, where they are safer. Thinking people have known for centuries that homosexual activity is immoral and a bad legal precedent. Let’s not go back thousands of years to the old and primitive Greek and Roman societies that crassly valued homosexual relations. Let’s progress not regress.

    • Reggie

      Who said that Greek and Roman societies accepted or valued homosexuality other than gays and leftists?

      Just because an activity or subculture existed in some ancient culture does not mean it was accepted and embraced.

      Because some of the rich and powerful were doing it meant that the masses of the common people could do nothing about it. That is not acceptance. that is recognizing that they have more power.

      A few Roman emperors or leading citizens were ridiculed somewhat openly that they were overly fond of male thighs. That tells me the majority of the citizenry were not accepting of homosexuality in Rome.
      Caesar was ridiculed. I don’t recall Hadrian right off the bat. Another emperor was ridiculed and he did not seem to last that long. You got to wonder why he became a regicide.

    • ziggy zoggy

      I’m justifiably offend by gangs of Blacks attacking gays.

    • Race_Dissident

      Strenuously disapproving of public lewdness by homosexuals is one thing. Violently attacking them is something else altogether, and is not remotely acceptable in a civilized society. Alas, black society is anything but civilized.

  • Observer

    Black mobs have beat up gays in the Boys Town community of Chicago, which is not too far south from Man’s Country Bath house (which is no longer open).

    Of course black mob violence does not hit the news and certainly not if it is from Chicago.

  • Strong

    “When the police officers came, … Did they ask to see the footage? No.
    Nothing. They did nothing.”

    The police have potential evidence identifying attackers and they refuse to review it. A lawsuit should be filed.

    • ziggy zoggy

      Yes. And those cops were probably following department procedure meant to downplay Black violence.

      • Guy Fromage

        Bingo

    • Cold_Drake_80

      It’s not a surprise. If the cops were bigots then it’s just a case of people from one group they hate attacking someone from another group of people they hate.

      • Aizino Smith

        Maybe the cops actions are pragmatic.

        if they arrest the black yutes, the black grievance committee hold s demonstrations and call in the heavies, Sharpton and Jackson. Commentators on MSNBC and similar venues get all indignant and make up stories about why it is not their fault. Cold_Drake_80 keeps it tuned to MSNBC thus reinforcing the commentators and managements decision to continue to lie.

        If they sides with the blacks, the gay community start their jihad in the press.

        So it is better to do nothing. It is similar to the concept of learned helplessness.

        • Cold_Drake_80

          Or they just didn’t care if someone from a group they hate gets injured or killed. Nah, better to construct a really complicated conspiracy despite the fact young black men get arrested with no outcry all the time.

          • Guy Fromage

            Why use Occam’s Razor, when an implausible conspiracy theory is so much more fun?!

          • Cold_Drake_80

            You’ve made my point for me.

          • Guy Fromage

            But you had no point. I’m just that good, I guess.

          • Cold_Drake_80

            Well, that’s incoherent. You’re going to have to at least try. I know failure is the norm for good FPMers but yeesh that’s a poor showing.

          • Guy Fromage

            You knowing from coherence? Now that is the nonspecific color pot calling the kettle an unspecified color.

          • EarlyBird

            Not sure if anyone is expressing a complicated conspiracy here. Are they overdoing it (this IS Fear-Rage Magazine, after all)? Sure. I just think its politically easier to sweep a hate attack on a gay man under the rug than it is to charge black people with what is obviousl a hate crime, in some communities. It’s cynical, but not complicated.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            EarlyTurd,

            Get thee to an optometrist.

        • Drakken

          You hit the nail on the head, the black community is never wrong and they will riot and scream racism to prove it.

        • Arf

          Correction: if they side with the blacks, they gay community which is on the side of the left/Obama/hate white Christian Republicans team will keep their mouths shut ’cause they know how stupid they’d look and that they would get no support from the Democrats. They would also get labeled racist and then — heaven forbid — they might be tempted to side with the Republicans or conservatives or Christians and then they would lose all credibility with the left and they might have to eat crow. Gay organizations will NOT support their community on the street. They will support whoever is paying them.

          • Guy Fromage

            Ah yes, the left wing pecking order.

        • iluvisrael

          aren’t sharpy and jerkson busy consoling the victims of aron alexis???

      • Aizino Smith

        The cops are bigots? This is large metropolitan area. the cops are probably a mixture of white black and Hispanic.

        Are you all EMO?

        • Gee

          Not Hispanic – the Mid-West is still vary segregated. The suburb of Parma near Cleveland is over 90% Polish, to the south Seven Hills (home of Demamjuk) is Serbo-Croatian, etc. etc.

          • Aizino

            I do not know if this happened in Cleveland proper but the Cleveland PD demographics are

            Male: 83%
            Female: 17%
            White: 67%
            African-American/Black: 27%
            Other: 6%

            - Wiki

          • ziggy zoggy

            27% was enough to turn Cleveland into a heIIhole.

      • EarlyBird

        I don’t buy that, Cold Drake. I don’t buy that the cops were bigots. I just think it’s easier for police departments to treat the beating of a gay man as just another unfortunate crime, rather than charge black people with a hate crime (which this clearly was).

        I also am against hate crime legislation. It becomes a ridiculous tit-for-tat political weapon, not to mention it in essence turns crimes into thought crimes which doesn’t seem to healthy for democracy.

        • Cold_Drake_80

          According to the article the police didn’t want to avoid bringing up hate crime charges. They didn’t want to do ANYTHING! That is not a minor difference.

          • Drakken

            The reason they didn’t want to do anything is because the black community would scream racist at the police for doing their job.

          • Cold_Drake_80

            Your assumption is based on absolutely nothing but your own paranoia and hatred. Try gathering a little information before spewing.

          • Drakken

            It is not an assumption Sparky,it is based on the fact that police are ordered not to stir up the black community at all costs because they don’t want a riot on their hands and that looks bad on a politicians resume.

          • ziggy zoggy

            Why not handle a riot with force? Just because that POS Darrel Gates let the baboons run wild doesn’t mean anybody else has to. Politicians have homes that can be burned, too

          • EarlyBird

            I think it’s just bad/lazy policing. The article says the cops were called three times in the hour prior to the beating about a group of kid sitting around and looking up to no good. Add to that, it’s just easier not to treat a hate crime as a hate crime.

          • Cold_Drake_80

            So you’re defence is the policy are too slothful or incompetent? That’s better than prejudice? Mind you they are not mutually exclusive but no matter.

          • Guy Fromage

            Occam’s Razor, again…

          • Cold_Drake_80

            You really need to look up what that phrase means before you use it.

          • Guy Fromage

            You should try to apply it. If you did, most of your posts would disappear.

          • EarlyBird

            “So you’re defence is the policy are too slothful or incompetent? That’s better than prejudice?”
            I’m not defending anyone. I’m trying to explain what I believe happened in this case. But yes, I think I’d rather have a lazy police force than a bigoted one, if I had to choose.

          • Cold_Drake_80

            My answer – the only correct one – when presented with that choice is NEITHER. Don’t be an authoritarian slave actually expect something from those in authority.

          • Drakken

            Let me guess? You had your lunch money taken a lot in school didn’t you?

          • ziggy zoggy

            He was hanging out in the boys’ restrooms in high school.

    • Juaniita

      Cleveland is poor, they will not get any money.

    • Gee

      Am not surprised – it is Cleveland and I did live there. Most of the city is black and the police force is homophobic

      • SirJohn

        Don’t most of them believe men sexually mounting other men unnatural?

    • Drakken

      Sorry to say, but it is already settled law, that police do not have a duty to protect, the police show up after all is said and done, so you have a duty and right to protect you and yours from harm period, so quit crying and start carrying.

      • Strong

        I forgot about the U.S. Supreme Court & State court rulings.

        There was a case where a teenage girl and her friend were forcibly abducted in Ohio and prostituted at truck stops in Michigan.

        The parent s finally tracked down the pimp and their daughter. the called 911 and waited 20 minutes. Finally they went in and confronted the pimp. They were charged.

        I am sure all the CONCERN TROLLS are hip about trafficking of women. but other than wringing their hands they do very little.

        • Drakken

          I can say without any doubt if that had been one of mine, the pimp would have disappeared and be done with it.

          • Strong

            Captive-teenage-cousins-suffer-crash- in forced Sex trade

            http://www.toledoblade.com/Police-Fire/2006/01/09/Captive-teenage-cousins-suffer-crash-course-in-forced-sex-trade.html

            I saw this on the MSM one of the original 3. From what I remember the parents were also arrested for a time. the News article here makes no mention of it.

          • Strong

            Captive-teenage-cousins-suffer-crash- in forced Z ex trade

            http://www.toledoblade.com/Pol

            I saw this on the MSM one of the original 3. From what I remember the parents were also arrested for a time. the News article here makes no mention of it.

          • Drakken

            If you want to see what the white slave trade is about, you should work where I do, you see white girls from Russian, Ukraine and the rest of Europe being funneled through the Balkans to Arab buyers, it shocks you to the core to see it, and we actually do something about it when it comes up on our radar.

          • Strong

            I have read about it from numerous sources. The U.S. military has mandatory training for at least 6 years now warning members to not be clients.

            Many also end up in Israel. I wonder how good their borders are.

          • truebearing

            Good for you. Ventilate some of them for me.

          • iluvisrael

            so slave auctions like the one in the movie ‘taken’ do exist? Knowing what I now know about islam, it shouldn’t come as a shock, but it IS shocking – and it makes me thankful to have been born in the US. I just hope we can safely get thru the next 3+ years.

          • Drakken

            Of all the things I have seen and done over the years, this is what disturbs me the most, the ones we came across, we did what was necessary to get them back to mainland Europe to various organizations to help them, the Catholic Church is wonderful in this regard. The ones that were responsible, well that should go without saying.

          • kay

            Thank u for doing something! I live in a border state. Global human traffiking is awful. Big Bucks. Must stop. Young girls used as sex slaves in the “repressed” middle eastern countries. So inhuman!

      • ziggy zoggy

        Drakken, the cops refused to do the investigation that was DONE FOR THEM WITH THE VIDEO FOOTAGE and sacrificed an innocent gay guy for a gang of Black scum who targeted Jared Fox because he was gay…….and White.

        This was not a case of failing to protect somebody. It was a case of shielding the criminals.

        And police departments were formed to protect citizens and their neighborhoods. That is what they used to do with foot patrols and detectives. Cops were all big tough guys who wanted to protect people. Now, any pu$$y can be a cop – even a woman – and it is department policy all across the country to enforce the law against law abiding citizens through corruption and adversarial persecution, while allowing crimes to take place. Fox is lucky the cops showed up to ignore him. They could just as readily charged him with a phony crime or drawn a chalk line around his corpse.

        You’re a good guy and maybe a cop so you CAN’T be happy about this.

        • Drakken

          No Zig, I am not happy about this and many other things going on with our polarized and paralyzed police departments across the nation, the libtards have shackled our police to a point the crime prevention is now minority appeasement at any price, just to keep them from rioting and keeping the black grievance theater folks out of their cities, the police are now nothing more than report and revenue (DWI) takers, it is not about law enforcement though many county Sheriffs take their jobs seriously, that is not the case in the bigger cities. Everyone is equal under the law, but that is not the case today, some are more equal than others.

          • ziggy zoggy

            Glad to hear it. And you’re right. All the metropolitan police departments have been compromised. They are staffed mostly by resentful incompetents who couldn’t make the football team or get laid in high school, lead by career politicians, and they persecute regular citizens out of resentment and departmental policy. Thank God for small community sheriff and police departments.

            I hate the weasels who make a living writing tickets to raise revenue for corrupt municipalities. What an obscene waste of my tax dollars. I have no sympathy for the ret@rds who pull me over and ask me: “Do you know how fast you were going?” WTF!? They pulled me over, not the other way around. And they had speed guns! It’s been awhile but I asked the last one: “Don’t you? You pulled me over, not the other way around. You have a speed gun so you already know the answer.” He wasn’t happy about what I said, but this was the tiny community of Golden Valley AZ, and he was a decent, regular guy so we laughed about it. I got a ticket because I was extremely guilty of speeding but he didn’

          • ziggy zoggy

            ….didn’t pull any of the power trips that cops in big communities do. He was a sheriff and lived nearby, so he viewed me as a neighbor instead of a potential perp.

            Are you a sheriff? Just curious.

          • hiernonymous

            Are you whining because we have speed laws, or are you whining because people like you make it necessary to have people to enforce them?

            If you were ‘extremely guilty’ of speeding, doesn’t sound like the traffic cops are an obscene waste of your tax dollars.

  • V. Tuter

    What if the blax were sent back to Africa, as they started to do in the 19th century (Liberia is one example)? Wouldn’t the USA be better off?
    For the majority of blax are unsuited to life in western countries.
    Discuss.

    • ziggy zoggy

      A lot of groups are unsuited for life in Western countries. Marxists, islamopithecines, Democrats, et al. Deporting them all is an unrealistic policy suggestion.

      • Drakken

        I do believe we are way beyond the point of deporting anyone, it will come down to what I like to call the Serb Option.

        • Short Attack

          I don’t like that option.

          But we do not have a choice. Any progressive dominated society is like Mao’s China. Mao believe in continual revolution. Progressives like to believe that continual revolution is like continual improvement in manufacturing. In reality it means finding a scape goat and attacking them.

          Mao was a competent military leader. He knew sh_t about economics or anything else.

          You typical lib is less competent.

          • Drakken

            It is not a question of liking the option, it is a question of the option being forced.

    • al_kidya

      42 Million…The number of people who identified as black, either alone or in combination with one or more other races, in the 2010 Census. They made up 13.6 percent of the total U.S. population. The black population grew by 15.4 percent from 2000 to 2010.
      Source: The Black Population: 2010

      • ziggy zoggy

        Obama hijacked the census in 2008 and produced the only unreliable one ever conducted in 2010.

        And it’s worth noting that Obama, Holder, Wright, Farrakhan, and countless others self identify as Black despite the fact that they are Whiter than Niles Crane.

    • Navy Vet

      Why go back When all gov. programs. With their free “Bs” DO YOU REALLY THINK THAT THEY ARE THAT STUPID.

    • Jason Nash

      It’s funny because thats clearly the solution of a 7 year old, its not a racial thing, its a cultural thing, look at all the nice people that come from africa, nigeria, ivory coast, chad, black people from colombia brazil panama, they hate the low life american low class black, its a culture thing not color thing at all. Look at white trailer trash, horrible, banjo music, i run the other way.

      • Guy Fromage

        Thomas Sowell lays it all out in Black Red Necks and White Liberal.

        (The second word in the title is broken up, because the censor bot does not appear to like it.)

        • Arf

          I read Sowell’s book and there is a basic problem with his argument: The violent and intolerant behavior of blacks (particularly young black males) is a phenomenon all over the world — not just the U.S. Africa (eg, South Africa, Sudan, Uganda, etc.) have outrageous violent crime rates. South Africa’s rape rate is so high, many black people there have said they preferred living under Apartheid.

          • Guy Fromage

            I’m not excusing the behavior (I’m no lefty), but the cultural distortion brought about by Apartheid will undoubtedly engender some social pathologies.

          • ziggy zoggy

            The Blacks in South Africa, Sudan, Uganda, Sierra Leone, the Hutus and a few others are anomalous Africans. The savagery in the Sudan is perpetrated by islamopithecine mongrels and every other savage African country is islamopithecine.

            African Blacks are absolutely superior to American Blacks.

      • ziggy zoggy

        Totally true except for the bit about banjo music. Banjo music is great.

        If you like rap or hip pity hop talking(not music or singing) I will lose any respect possible for you.

    • Race_Dissident

      Repatriation, although a good idea, is obviously impracticable under the current constitutional regime. Alas, as America Balkanizes and certain breakaway sections no longer possess constitutions like the US Constitution, repatriation may occur.

      • Drakken

        We are beyond repatriation, it will come down to what I call the Serb Option. It will start in Europe with their muslim problem and spread from there like a wildfire.

    • Cold_Drake_80

      You’re a white supremacist. Wow, that was a quick discussion. Granted you made it a bit too easy. Oh, well no surprise considering you’re an FPMer in good standing.

      • Guy Fromage

        I don’t agree with V. Tuter, but being a supremacist and being a separatist are not the same thing.

        For example of a racial supremacist and separatist, I refer you to Louis Farrakhan.

        • 1proactive2

          The poster used the default position when it didn’t have a cogent response to V Tuter’s comment. Thinking with depth is not part of the learning disabled class. They do love their monthly SSI check, however.

        • Cold_Drake_80

          Like I give a dam about Louis Farrakhan’s opinion. Both world views are based on bigotry pure and simple. The fact you chose not to see this is very telling.

          • Arnold

            I give a d_mn about Louis Farahkhans opinion. He has about 50,000 firm followers and another 200,000 that are somewhat influenced by him. If 4 or 5 of his followers are agitated after listening to him and pop off, they can definitely ruin a lot of people’s days/life.

            I give a d_mn, because Reverend Wright gave Farahkhan a lifetime achievement award and Wright was Obama’s Pastor for almost 20 years. and yet Obama said he heard nothing.

            I know th latter paragraph has no impact on you other than for you to double down.

          • Guy Fromage

            You should. He’s a real person, unlike the sock puppets you operate.

            I judge FPM by its published content, not by any comments which are added by readers. Any ass can leave a comment. You are a perfect example.

          • Drakken

            It is pretty obvious that you don’t like whitey and scream like a good leftist, racist when folks point out the obvious, at every turn.

      • Drakken

        Oh look! A black racist calling a white guy a racist for pointing out the obvious, how quaint.

        • Cold_Drake_80

          I’m not black or racist you idiot. I can see where a good FPMer might be confused but not everyone white person is racist. That’s more of an FPM thing.

          • Drakken

            Oh so your a self hating, self loathing, white, progressive who can’t bend over fast and far enough to the minorities in order to prove his liberal credentials. Priceless!

          • Cold_Drake_80

            Well, at least you’ve replaced one paranoid and bigoted stereotype for another. By FPMer standards that’s as close to progress as one can expect around here.

          • Drakken

            Denial ain’t a river in Egypt Sparky, now run along and see if your mommy will give you a cookie.

          • ziggy zoggy

            Says the hopelessly paranoid and bigoted projectionist. Wipe your chin and spit out that rod.

  • HankTheYank

    First of all, why would a gay bar choose to set up shop in such a hostile environment? Surely there’s somewhere in Cleveland where things are safer if not out-and-out welcoming? Unless, the patrons are intent on having sex on the patio there’s got to be somewhere to do business. This is not to condone any of the violence described in the article which is not only criminal but should be dealt with immediately and forcefully and if not by the police then by capable customers and their friends.

  • Undertow

    Its hard to be sympathetic with Dan Savage after the despicable things he has said about public people and the utter garbage that he spouts as a sex advisor.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Petra-Thompson/100000036809170 Petra Thompson

    Over a 20 year period, muslims drove gay people out of east London. You can see maps here. http://4freedoms.com/group/gays/forum/topics/gay-free-zone-tower-hamlets

    In the 1990s, east London was like The Castro in San Francisco — London was one of the world’s most famous cities for gay life, and east London had the greatest concentration of gay venues. Now there are only 3 gay bars left, they exist on the periphery (in areas where there are no mosques nearby), and most of their customers live in other areas of London.

    The media (including the gay media) have ignored the ethnic cleansing of gay people from that area. The bars were cleared out by people directly attacking the bars, or by attacking customers when they left.

    • al_kidya

      That’s interesting, Petra. Do you suppose Islamic indoctrination is creeping into the young black populace?

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Petra-Thompson/100000036809170 Petra Thompson

        Muslims are not a race. The 2 black muslims who will face trial in the next couple of months for the beheading of a soldier on the streets of London this year.

        Most of the homophobic countries in Africa are those which border the muslim north of that continent. But even christianity was far more tolerant of homosexuality before it adapted to the fundamentalism of islam in the middle ages.

        The bottom line is: no matter where blacks or asians get their violent homophobia from, the liberal media will refuse to report on it, and the police will do nothing about it. Naive gay people go to live in black/asian ghettos, believing the multicultural claptrap enforced by political correctness. Too many have to learn the hard way just how dangerous these areas are.

        • Race_Dissident

          You should probably differentiate between Middle Eastern and Asian. While the former is, for the most part, in Asia, east Asians are not known for virulent and violent homophobia.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Petra-Thompson/100000036809170 Petra Thompson

            In Britain we recognise that physically and culturally, asians and orientals are two different groups. It seems rather strange to me that Americans might conclude that everyone from Iran to Tokyo is “Asian”.

          • ziggy zoggy

            It seems unusual to me that stupid Brits don’t know what continents are, or that Oriental was originally used as a description of islamopithecines, and not Mongoloids.

            But then again, you tw@ts think Europe is a separate continent.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Petra-Thompson/100000036809170 Petra Thompson

            Oriental originally meant anywhere east of Rome. But then we can’t expect a savage like you to know that.

          • ziggy zoggy

            I am an overly rude savage, but the Orient and Asia were originally considered separate areas until modern ignorance poisoned all geographical descriptions.

            Russians and Indians live in Asia. Most of it, in fact. Are they Orientals or Asians?

        • Drakken

          Petra, just an observation, I do believe you have to quit calling the pakis or banglis Asians, for it really is an insult to the Chinese or Japanese.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Petra-Thompson/100000036809170 Petra Thompson

            Oh I agree. I’m just working with the categories that prevail in the UK. Actually, in the UK, most sane people refer to the chinese/japanese/koreans as “Orientals”, even though the PC crowd want to lump them in with the Asian sub-continent (talk about racism — for the sake of disguising the evils of Pakistanis, Chinese atheists and Japanese shintos must be lumped along the most pernicious muslims in the world).

          • Drakken

            Sad day indeed when we cannot call a spade a spade out of fear of hurting someone’s feelings.

  • Freeman56

    Facts and reality are stubborn things! As Larry Elder noted a few months ago during the Leem intoxicated Trayvon episode, black men commit 92% of all violent crimes, yet they are only 7% of the entire US population.

    • Cold_Drake_80

      Hrm that’s interesting they did a tox screen on Martin and found he wasn’t intoxicated at the time of his murder. Even for an FPM pisshead you’re not very smart.

      • Guy Fromage

        Autopsy showed evidence of neurological and liver damage consistent with lean usage, and THC was in his system. The damage caused by chronic lean usage can induce paranoia, as can marijuana, depending on the variety and susceptibility of the user.

        • Cold_Drake_80

          Okay, one more time: “…and found he WASN’T intoxicated at the time of his murder.” What part of that very clear statement are you too stupid to pay attention to. You then hide behind while it can cause blah, blah, blah. Well, alcohol can cause severe damage if you have enough of a drinking problem that it will show up in your autopsy I’m sure you’ll be happy to know we’ll assume you were psychic at the time of death.

          • Aizino Smith

            - All test have a chance for false positives and false negatives.
            - We don’t know the sensitivity of the tests.
            -We don’t know the level of significance of the test.
            -We do know that you are a screamer and love to shout people down! :)

          • Cold_Drake_80

            Oh, so testing is valid when you want to smear a murder victim but isn’t when you start losing ground or one of your boys gets caught out? The principle rational for Martin’s murder the FPMers cling to is he was a drug user. Take that away and he was the victim of some goon with a history of bad behaviour that continues to this day.

          • Drakken

            Tray Von wasn’t murdered, he was shot as a result of his actions of beating a Hispanic guy to an inch of his life, good riddance.

          • Guy Fromage

            And yet the banana section lurved to condemn the real victim, George Zimmerman, because he had been prescribed legal medication.

          • EarlyBird

            And black and wore…a….hoodie! Eeeek! Shoot him! Shoot him!
            The nice thing is that George “Rambo” Zimmerman has been showing his stripes once again, getting in scrapes with the law at least twice since he “defended himself” against Trayvon.

          • Guy Fromage

            Scrapes with the law? Like being pulled over for speeding? Or was it being falsely accused of domestic violence with involvement of a gun?

            I suppose helping to rescue a family from a flaming truck counts as “scraping” against the police, as I’m sure law enforcement was involved in some way. So you have that.

          • EarlyBird

            “Falsely accused?” Just because the wife decided not press charges doesn’t mean the accusations were false. And they comport with other parts of his past:

            - Arrest in Orlando for assault on police officer and interfering while another person was being arrested;

            - Put on probation and eventually being fired from a security guard job for multiple occasions of overreacting and having anger management issues which resulted in one incident where he injured a drunk woman;

            - Multiple calls to 911 for fighting, threatening and stalking his ex-fiancee’;

            - A court injuction against him due to that behavior.

            Would you hire someone with this past, even though he never ultimately was found guilty in a court (the batter on a police officer was thrown out after he agreed to go to anger management training).

          • Guy Fromage

            Interesting head fake, there. Allow me to quote you:

            The nice thing is that George “Rambo” Zimmerman has been showing his
            stripes once again, getting in scrapes with the law at least twice since
            he “defended himself” against Trayvon.
            (emphasis mine)

            Your laundry lists of tempests in teapots occurred before he defending himself against Trayvon’s attack (no scare quote necessary, BTW).

            There are strict standards for obtaining a CHL. He had (as still has, incidentally) a CHL. The alleged police assault incident is an especially amusing one, in the cops have no sense of humor when it comes to laying hands on them, yet the charge was dropped. Funny, that.

            I’d hire George in a heartbeat. (That was not meant to be ironic.)

          • EarlyBird

            Wrong on all counts:

            - “Defended himself,” IN QUOTES, denotes sarcasm.

            - Every single one of those incidents I listed happened years before Fat Rambo slayed Trayvon, and prior to his post-slaying run-ins with the law.

            - Practically anybody without a conviction can get a CCP in Florida.

            - Trayvon believed he was fighting for HIS life against a renegade, loser wanna-be cop. It ends up Trayvon was right.

          • Drakken

            If Tay Von was so right? How come he is so dead? LOL

          • EarlyBird

            Don’t hire Zimmerman as your body guard. You’ll be dead in a week.

          • Arf

            Trayvon wasn’t a murder victim. He attacked a man and tried to kill him. The man fought back. Thank God for that.

          • EarlyBird

            An unwise, immature, volatile, untrained, non-uniformed man with a gun playing cop wrongfully identified a completely innocent citizen going through his day, confronted and terrified that citizen, and set up a situation where the citizen thought he was fighting for HIS life, and fought him, and got shot. Not quite “murder,” but Zimmerman has blood on his hands.

          • Guy Fromage

            I’m sure it washed off readily.

          • Drakken

            Zimmerman did a public service.

          • Race_Dissident

            Martin terrified? I highly doubt it. He was a violent hoodlum who had been a plague upon those around him for most of his teenage years. If anything, he relished the opportunity to attempt murder on a “cracker.” If he was really terrified, all he had to do was walk quickly the remaining 70 feet to his residence. Instead he chose to attack a man who had broken no law. And he got his just desserts.

          • EarlyBird

            Violent hoodlum my a$$. Not a great citizen, but not a violent hoodlum.

            The violent hoodlum is George “Fat Rambo” Zimmerman. Mulitiple scrapes with the law and other troubles due to his anger problems. He’s a volatile, armed, macho idiot who was too immature to make it into a police department.

            One and a half minutes elapsed between the time Fat Rambo called 911 and the dispatcher said “we don’t need you to do that (follow him)” and the next call to 911 when the fight was occurring.

            ZERO doubt Zimmerman put Trayvon in a situation where he was fearful for HIS life. What about Trayvon’s right to stand his ground against this idiot, Zimmerman? Well, dead men tell no tales, so Fat Rambo wins.

          • Race_Dissident

            He most certainly was a violent hoodlum. And standing one’s ground is one thing. Attacking somebody who has not even threatened you is something else entirely.

          • TienBing

            ZERO doubt in your mind (I use the term loosely).
            Martin created his own cause for fear by initiating a hostile confrontation. I’m sure he was scared poopless when he heard the shot and knew what had happened.
            Even if Zimmerman was a “Fat Rambo”, he was within his rights to note – or even follow someone he thought was “up to no good” in his neighborhood. If Martin was concerned about the intentions of the “Fat Rambo”, all he had to do was step into his apartment and call the police. He chose to attack Zimmerman instead.
            There is no doubt that Trayvon Martin was a useless Punk. It may be that Zimmerman is the same. If so then all I can say is: “It’s always fun to watch when two buttholes collide”.

          • ziggy zoggy

            An unwise, immature, volatile, untrained, hoodie wearing punk playing thug wrongly targeted a completely innocent citizen with a gun going through his day, attacked and terrified that citizen, set up a situation where the citizen thought he was fighting for his life, tried to kill him and got shot. Not murder. Attempted murder.

            HAHAHAHAHAHA!

          • Race_Dissident

            My God, you’re an idiot. And it’s rationale, genius.

          • Aizino Smith

            You can’t handle the lingo of statistics can you? So you went for your old stand ad hominem. LMAO

            Personally everyone should be tested. I know I have been tested over 20 to 30 times over my life. No biggie.

            Cling to he was a drug user. We just had to look at the Facebook posts and see his school record. It is not exactly rocket science although it may be to you.

            Seriously though, did you not take statistics in college? Or did you take a warm & fuzzy curriculum that gave you a worthless degree such that you cannot get employment?deg

          • Guy Fromage

            There is intoxicated, and then there is drug-addled. Evidence showed chronic neurological damage from lean use.

            Further, if you’re trying a legalistic head fake by using the term “intoxicated” to denote alcohol use…#fail. One can be intoxicated with substances other than alcohol. T was high on MJ.

          • EarlyBird

            Marijuana remains detectable in the system long, long after the high has passed, as in weeks after. So it absolutely does not mean that Trayvon was high at the time of his legal execution. Nor does it make people aggressive, or so paranoid that they would just wildly go on a beating rampage.

          • Guy Fromage

            Metabolites do, yes.

            And when you say it doesn’t make people paranoid or aggressive, do you mean to say it never makes people paranoid or aggressive, especially when co-morbidities such as neurological damage caused by lean abuse is factored in?

          • EarlyBird

            I’ve never heard of it making people aggressive, but never say never, I guess.

          • Guy Fromage

            I notice you did not include paranoid, which was part of my question, in your answer. Telling.

          • EarlyBird

            Because the fact that pot can create paranoia is a given, while the aggressiveness is not. Yes, it makes people paranoid. Gee, Guy, don’t be paranoid. (What’s in that pipe anyway?)

          • Guy Fromage

            Concession accepted.

            Licorice, BTW.

          • Race_Dissident

            Paranoia is one of the prime side effects of marijuana use, as well as of Leftist belief.

          • EarlyBird

            Says a right wing ghoul who hangs out on a propaganda site devoted to fear, paranoia, conspiracies and rage.

          • Race_Dissident

            Actually, FPM is an alternative media site that provides a salubrious antidote to the MSM master narrative, which suppresses subversive truths and vaunts demonstrable lies. But never fear, EB–you and your Leftist censors, in fear of truth, will ultimately shut down sites like FPM, just as Leftists in Europe have stifled free speech under the aegis of suppressing “incitement to racial hatred.”

          • Drakken

            I really do enjoy the fact that you get early’s little panties in a bunch when you give her logical facts an well thought out opinion.

          • EarlyBird

            Not at all. I come here for the sadisic joys of poking at insane paranoid schizophrenics. It’s fun, but a little mean of me.

          • Drakken

            I take it in your sadomasochistic pleasure, your life partner(wife) really does a number on you?

          • EarlyBird

            “salubrious antidote,” “master narrative,” “suppresses subversive truths,” “vaunts demonstrable lies,” “aegis”!

            Goodness, looks like we have another Serious Intellectual here on Fear Rage Hackazine. Maybe you can get a cabinet position after the American Restoration is accomplished.

          • Race_Dissident

            I can think of no better outcome. And the restoration cannot come soon enough.

          • EarlyBird

            Vilcommen to your elecronic beer hall.

          • Arf

            Hey moron, listen up: the after effects exhibit even when there the user hasn’t used at the time of the incident. He was coming from the store where he bought 2 of the 3 items needed to make leem. Guess he was suffering a leem hangover.

          • Cold_Drake_80

            Or he was buying himself a snack. Nah, that wouldn’t fit the FPM narrative can’t be that. He was also legally walking through the neighbourhood when some dipshit started following him and killed him after initiating the confrontation. Oops that’s not FPM enough. Reality has the nasty habit of ruining FPMers delusions, eh?

          • Drakken

            The only one who is delusional is you. But hey Sparky, you keep throwing out that race card !

          • Guy Fromage

            T was on record online, asking a friend where he could obtain codeine-laced cough syrup, for the express purpose of making lean. It was in this same conversation, he stated he was going to have to cut back on the choom, because of law enforcement attention.

            Face it, you have no argument.

          • Cold_Drake_80

            Now you’ve moved from insinuated he was intoxicated to he had a history of drug use. Neither excuse his murder. so lets look into your history and see what kind of substance abuse we shall find.
            Which of these would excuse your murder? Which wouldn’t? I’m curious to hear your answer/evasion.

          • Drakken

            You keep bringing up murder, it wasn’t, it was a public service.

          • Cold_Drake_80

            Just like OJ, eh? The right-wing doesn’t shriek and whine about that case at all. Not the least bit.

          • Drakken

            I hear your mommy calling you, maybe she will give you a cookie for being special.

          • Cold_Drake_80

            I accept your admission of defeat. You may go now.

          • Drakken

            Keep smoking the crack pipe son, it suits you.

          • Guy Fromage

            By your own metric (that of “reality,” and not court finding), few argue OJ is not guilty of two murders.

          • truebearing

            If you left wing mutants had any decency or morals, you’d be upset at a double murderer escaping justice but you’re too f*ed up with your moronic, convoluted PC rules. no wonder you come off like such an idiot.

          • Cold_Drake_80

            Thanks for proving my point. You FPMers are so easy to manipulate.

          • Guy Fromage

            He wasn’t murdered. He attempted murder, and was stopped.

            You’re welcome to look into my history, if you can. But why would you? I’ve never attempted to murder anyone, unlike T. Aside from schoolyard scrapes, I’ve never assaulted anyone, either.

            Can you say the same?

          • Cold_Drake_80

            Ah, but your history of substance abuse will, by your own standards, serve as an exit clause in the case you are murdered. Sauce for the goose so what have you used and when? We all deserve to know what “standards” you are operating under.

          • Guy Fromage

            Relevance? T was not murdered. You’re rambling, again.

          • Cold_Drake_80

            I made myself perfectly clear. Also it wasn’t found that Martin wasn’t murdered just that Zimmerman was found not guilty based on the case presented by the prosecution. I can see why you come to FPM you really can’t function in polite an environment that has real discourse.

          • Guy Fromage

            No. Homicide in the course of an act of self-defense is not murder. Period. Not legally. Not morally. Not “karmickaly.” In no way, shape, or form is it murder.

            I conclusively can’t say T’s chronic use of drugs (ironically including chronic, btw) contributed to his decision to attempt to murder George, but attempt he did. That’s why there was no murder.

          • Race_Dissident

            Ah, yes, those pesky little jury decisions. Hardly relevant to the facts at hand.

          • EarlyBird

            Surely you’re positive that OJ had nothing to do with murder because the court found him not guilty.
            Jury decisions don’t preclude human beings from making their own judgements. The problem is, you fail on those judgements. He was jus another black punk and good thing he was killed, huh?

          • Guy Fromage
          • Race_Dissident

            Actually, OJ was later convicted in a civil suit. But that is really neither here nor there. Juries do make mistakes. They certainly made one in the first OJ trial. But there is scant little evidence they made one in the Martin trial. Acquittal was a slam dunk.

          • EarlyBird

            I agree that the legal case was a slam dunk. Not the moral case to applaud Fat Rambo as some Avenging Angel. He’s a stupid, irresponsible man.

          • truebearing

            You’re a stupid, irresponsible boy, but that doesn’t mean you’re guilty of murder….at least not of people. You are guilty of murdering rational thought, common sense, and respect for your superiors, which is nearly everyone.

          • truebearing

            Yes. He deserved it, black or otherwise.
            idiotic argument, yet again. There was compelling and massive amounts of evidence that OJ did murder two people, and NONE that Zimmerman murdered Martin. Self-defense isn’t murder, idiot.

          • truebearing

            Zimmerman was acquitted of murder, moron. If Zimmerman shot Martin, as was richly deserved, and it was ruled that he wasn’t guilty of murder, then no murder occurred. No one is denying Martin was killed, but his death was self-defense, which is not murder. There is no such thing as a verdict that finds someone was murdered, but there was no murderer. There wouldn’t be a trial unless there was a suspect, and if the suspect is innocent of murder, no murder took place.
            I’ve eaten french fries with a higher IQ than yours.

          • Race_Dissident

            Exit clause? Please. GF and others are dismantling the laughable MSM fiction that Trayvon was a saintly little cherub winsomely gnawing on Skittles. The reality is that he was a violent, drug-abusing hoodlum and criminal who bought it when he attacked a guy who asked him what he was doing.

          • Guy Fromage

            Not only was he violent, he was sadistically violent, as his phone records show.

            Something to the effect of: ‘I need to fight him again. He didn’t bleed enough.’

          • EarlyBird

            Cold Drake, you do know you’re wasting your time here, right? You can’t reason with people who don’t reason to begin with. All they know is that if a black kid was killed, he deserved it.
            Though I believe ultimately there was not enough evidence to convict Fat Rambo with murder, there is more than enough evidence for citizens to realize that he is morally culpable for wrongfully killing someone. He has blood on his hands, and he knows it. He wrongfully set in motion a series of events wherein he killed Trayvon. Period.
            He should be held accountable in civil court, and I’d really like the city to be sued too, since they let this volatile, bigoted, untrained, immature and dangerous infant run around with a gun in the name of “public safety.”

          • Guy Fromage

            All they know is that if a black kid was killed, he deserved it.

            Bigoted BS.

            there is more than enough evidence for citizens to realize that he is morally culpable for wrongfully killing someone

            No, there is not.

            He has blood on his hands, and he knows it.

            Not after a visit with Mr. Irish Spring and a hand towel.

            He wrongfully set in motion a series of events wherein he killed Trayvon. Period.

            Error. The events leading to his death began he Trayvon started beating on George. Period.

            He should be held accountable in civil court…

            Sort of like repeatedly counting ballots, until the result is the one you want.

          • EarlyBird

            Man of Cheese, if I stalk you while you are walking through your neighborhood, confront you, and I make you aware that I am armed with a handgun, and I have no ID or uniform that tells you about my purpose, you may fear for your life and attack me to save your own.

            A major problem with Fat Rambo’s story is his claim that he only showed/pulled his gun after Trayvon was on top of him. Since he had a small-of-the-back holster and Trayvon was on top of him, he’d not have been able to get the gun out as he claims. Instead, he had already drawn and wanted to scare Trayvon. Fat Rambo was weak and flabby and was only courageous because of that gun.

          • Drakken

            I guess that fat, untrained Rambo was good enough to put one in ole Tray Vons chest though. Ole Tray Von got himself a well deserved Darwin Award.

          • EarlyBird

            It doesn’t take brains or decency to shoot a firearm, Chesty. You’re living proof of that.

          • Guy Fromage

            Yeah. No functioning nervous system is required. The guns shoot all by their lonesome.

          • Drakken

            It takes a tad bit of proficiency to do so though doesn’t it? If I didn’t have any brains, I wouldn’t be here. Your welcome.

          • EarlyBird

            Oh right: “here” behind enemy lines defending Western civilization at a Wal-mart in Qatar. Thank God for the warriors among us.

          • Drakken

            Please! By all means! See if you have what it takes to bark with the big dogs instead of yapping on the porch with the pups? Put your money where your big mouth is and come play with us, it will open your eyes beyond anything you could possibly imagine.

          • EarlyBird

            I love how you never fail to mention the shadowy mission you’re on, where you’ve met the Islamist Enemy up front and in the eye, and know how to deal with the “savages.” Not much of a “quiet professional” are you?

            And if you’re actually in “security,” as in Blackwater type of security, that means you’re nothing but a mercenary, a paid killer, which makes you the scum of the earth.

          • Drakken

            It is XE now dear, keep up with current events. So sunshine keep running your suck, because you couldn’t handle what I do. Oh and the paycheck is far far more than what you will make watching a beaker all day.

          • hiernonymous

            What, exactly, do you do?

          • Drakken

            Depends on who cuts your paycheck, different divisions different names, same mission.

          • hiernonymous

            As you said, you need to keep up with current events. The business as a whole is no more Xe than it is Blackwater. One might be charitable to you and guess that you’re in a backwater division that hasn’t changed the stationery yet, but if you’re going to come down on strangers for getting it wrong, you’d better have it right yourself.

          • DB1954

            Be afraid, EB … be very afraid. So that’s it? You accuse him with being a “Blackwater type.” lmbo :-D What a maroon!

          • truebearing

            Shut your your flippant, ignorant mouth, bitch. You don’t have the courage God gave Chicken Little. You’d crap your drawers in a paintball battle. You’d run screaming if you came face-to-face with Drakken. You are a contemptible fool and a coward.

          • Skip Wellington

            Anyone with 1/2 a brain knows that guns cause crime.

          • DB1954

            hmmm right again. heh heh heh

          • truebearing

            Your comments are incoherent, at best. “Exit clause?” LOL! What a dolt.

          • DB1954

            WT EFF is an exit clause?

          • Cold_Drake_80

            To late punk. You’ll have to actually respond in a timely manner.

          • Drakken

            Little Drake would fill up his drawers if confronted and run to mommy to protect him. Then he would need hours of self esteem counseling to tell him how special he is and that the mean nasty right wingers really are out to get him

          • truebearing

            He wasn’t murdered, fool. He died while trying to murder Zimmerman, and justifiably, I would like to add.

          • Skip Wellington

            If a disenfranchised youth of color attacked you, I am certain that with your gift of gab, you could bring comfort to the teen and there would afterwards be handshakes, hugs and smiles all around.

            If only Zimmerman was armed with compassion – instead of a Kel Tek 9mm handgun – the White-hispanic racist and the inclusive youth would most assuredly be friends.

          • Cold_Drake_80

            Well, your a moron. If someone attacks me I owe them nothing. Then again I actually try to avoid such confrontations instead of following someone who I’ve decided “ain’t from ’round har.” Their is a differnce.

          • Skip Wellington

            Violence is never a solution.

          • DB1954

            right.

          • DB1954

            TM’s alleged intoxication wasn’t relevant to a charge of murder against George. Neither was George’s knowledge or suspicion of TM’s intoxication relevant to the charge of murder against George. It’s relevant, however, to George’s assertion that TM attacked him first using deadly force which justified George in using deadly force in defense of himself.

          • EarlyBird

            Which, if true, has ANY bearing on Fat Rambo’s shooting of Trayvon?

          • Drakken

            Zimmerman is alive, your hero Tray Von has a well earned Darwin Award.

          • Guy Fromage

            First, it’s true. The relevance is that it contradicts Drake’s attempt to caste Trayvon as a proto-saint.

            What does George’s waistline have to do with it?

          • EarlyBird

            The saintliness or lack or sainless of either person has no bearing on the case. Only the actions of that night do, and on that account we can ascertain that Fat Rambo is responsible for creating circumstances which led to a person’s death unnecessarily.
            Fat Rambo’s waist line is relevant because it must constantly be reinforced that he was a wanna be warrior-cop who couldn’t handle a real police force emotionally or physically, so ran around neighborhoods with a gun looking for trouble.

          • DB1954

            It was HIS neighborhood.

          • Race_Dissident

            Asking him what he was doing was initiating a confrontation? I suppose it is if the person you’re asking is a murderer starter kit like Trayvon. Zimmerman saved Florida another ward of the state.

          • Cold_Drake_80

            No, stalking someone after being asked to actually let the authorities handling it is initiating a confrontation. You’re actually stupid enough to believe the perps self serving account. Would you like to buy a bridge?

          • Guy Fromage

            There is a stalking law in Florida. Look it up. George was in no way stalking Trayvon.

          • DB1954

            Fl. stat. 713.04

          • Guy Fromage

            Yep. The language is fairly clear. Compare it, to Georges actions. Conclusion: he didn’t stalk T.

          • DB1954

            Not even close, since for one thing: there has to be more than one episode of behavior defined as stalking in order for the stalking law to apply. GZ and TM had never before met, so the FL stalking law simply doesn’t fit on that basis alone. One need not even read any further into the definition of stalking.

          • Race_Dissident

            Uh huh. And I should believe your account? Zimmerman is no Thomas Jefferson, but compared to a fruit bat such as yourself, he is a paragon of rationality and integrity.

          • truebearing

            That isn’t what happened, moron. First of all, it isn’t stalking to watch a black punk acting suspiciously when you are participating in a neighborhood watch. Even someone of your mental lack should be able to understand that much.
            Second of all, he didn’t continue to follow the thief. Martin came out of the shadows, where he was skulking in the rain, and attacked Zimmerman. Got it now, stooge?
            Martin got what he deserved. He was a punk, a thief, a racist, and he tried to kill Zimmerman. Justice was done when he got shot, and when Zimmerman was acquitted.

          • Cold_Drake_80

            So you assume he was a thief because he walked to a store then walked back. You are so twisted with hatred that you will believe literally ANYTHING you are told. You’re nothing but an animal. Worse yet you clearly like it.

          • DB1954

            No, we didn’t assume anything. Neither did George. He didn’t have to. He was the one minding his own business. There’s no law against following someone. Not in this state.

          • DB1954

            That’s not stalking, at least, not under Florida law. See Fl. stat. 713.04. If GZ stalked TM, why was GZ not charged with stalking in addition to murder?

            Try again, moron.

          • truebearing

            So watching suspicious, skulking people is “initiating a confrontation?” I guess we can’t watch thieves anymore because it hurts their feelings. FU. What a load of illogical BS.
            You wouldn’t know reality if it sat on your empty head. You’re too befuddled with idiotic ideologies.

          • Cold_Drake_80

            Says the guy who can’t even follow a very simple line of reasoning like don’t follow someone looking for a fight or you might end up in one.

          • DB1954

            Funny how you can say with absolute certainty that George Zimmerman knew that Trayvon knew he was following him. Don’t you think that it’s likely that George didn’t want Trayvon to know he was following him? And if George was following Trayvon with the intent to shoot him dead, why did George call the cops only minutes before he did so? Do you think that George wanted the cops to be there in order to be witness to a murder?

            Try again, genius.

          • Skip Wellington

            “Lean” is an all-inclusive beverage indigenous to the species. It takes the edge off permanent victim status from White oppressors.

          • DB1954

            I’ll be sure to stay out of your neighborhood and refrain from appearing to follow someone since you have deemed following someone as a crime and a legal justification for committing a felony assault just as TM apparently did.

          • DB1954

            Sorry, you’re wrong again. Once again, you misidentify the intoxicant as alcohol; it was not. The intoxicant he used that night was MJ. Extensive liver damage from lean usage was also confirmed in the medical exam.

      • Aizino Smith

        Some THC metabolites have an elimination half-life of 20 hours. However, some are stored in body fat and have a elimination half-life of 10 to 13 days. Most researchers agree that urine tests for marijuana can detect the presence of the drug in the body for up to 13 days. -about.com

        I knew about the body fat angle.

        What we don’t know is what tests were used. Upon death the body evacuates. Do coroner’s used residual urine to perform tests?

        We do not know what test the coroner conducted or if all coroners conduct anywhere near the same type of tests.

        All we know is some police or country spokes came out and said the coroner did tests. Test come in all shapes and sizes. so what does it mean?

        We know that he had not used in the last 3 days or the last 2 weeks (Depending on the test used the sensitivity of the test)? It does not mean that he had not been a habitual user over the last year or two.

        • Cold_Drake_80

          “… and found he wasn’t intoxicated at the time of his murder.”
          That is the important finding. If you ate a marijuana brownie at a party a week ago that doesn’t give someone a license to murder you.

          • Drakken

            Again to reiterate the facts, Tray Von got killed as a result of his actions of attacking a Hispanic guy, and yes he deserved it.

          • Guy Fromage

            Metabolites are one thing. Active THC is another. Plus, it is known he tried to purchase two blunts shortly before the encounter. When he was refused, a slightly older person made a straw purchase on T’s behalf, of the exact same product and quantity.

            And yet, they were not found on his person, but active THC was found within his person.

            Go figure.

          • EarlyBird

            Good thing he was shot. We sure don’t want citizens harmlessly walking from Point A to Point B while stoned.

          • Guy Fromage

            I have no quarrel with people walking home stoned. When they try to beat peoples’ brains out, however…

          • DB1954

            Or harmlessly but nevertheless feloniously committing brutal and savage attacks on people who were harmlessly trying to determine if you MGHT be a criminal by harmlessly observing you and harmlessly following you until you commenced punching, kicking, and bashing that person’s head on a concrete walk.

          • DB1954

            Well, perhaps you forgot to mention that use of MJ doesn’t really do a whole lot for your disposition or nasty attitude toward people of other races, especially if you’re 17 years old, all the black people you know hate white people, monkey see, monkey do, and unreasoning violence is a perfectly reasonable behavior choice when confronted by someone you’ve never before met or seen in your life and you misidentify and categorize him as a “creepy-a$$,” racist “cracker,” notwithstanding the very real possibilities that he may have been perfectly within his rights to follow you; that he was not in fact, the white racist boogeyman of your worst fears; that he may not in fact have been following you at all; or that if he was following you, he might have been doing so for reasons totally unrelated to race or racism.

          • Guy Fromage

            I don’t doubt the metastatic cultural infection you describe exists, but I think it is disingenuous to claim the active THC in his system could not have influenced his behavior, especially in light of the fact he suffered chronic neurological damage due to lean use, which is known to cause, among other things, paranoia, and pot (especially certain strains) can induce paranoia is susceptible individuals, but T himself was know to be a violent sadist. I would expect the is an atypical personality type which one frequently associates with pot use, so we may be talking major outlier, here.

          • Aizino Smith

            Never said it did. But prolonged drug use alters the mind. Or have you not caught on to that fact of life yet?

            Drake World Logic:
            Coroner finds that alcoholic had no alcohol in his system at the time of death. Yet his liver was destroyed and his brain is pickled worse. but we will hang out hat on that 1 important test.

          • DB1954

            Only if, for some crazy reason, I decided that some fat white guy was following me, that he shouldn’t be doing that, that following me made him a racist, and I just HAD to teach that creepy-a$$ cracker a lesson.

        • EarlyBird

          Using hair analysis, marijuana can be detected up to six months post use.

          • Aizino Smith

            I already knew that.

          • DB1954

            The medical examiner probably didn’t. He could barely speak English anyway.

      • Arf

        Actually, cold_drake, the after effects of leem usage are paranoia and extreme aggressivenss — both of which exhibit whether or not the user is classified as “intoxicated.” Besides, I’ll believe the facts of the tox screen when I READ them in the official report. Not heresay from you, nitwit.

      • ziggy zoggy

        That’s because he still had the Skittles and watermelon (LOL!) iced tea on him and hadn’t mixed it with his Tussin yet.

        Keep trying.

        • DB1954

          Funny thing is, if St. Skittles had just run on home and stayed there instead of doubling back to sucker punch the fat guy, he’s probably still be alive. But you know, a thug’s gotta do what a thug’s gotta do to a “creepy-a$$ cracker.” Had to teach him a lesson, ya know.

      • DB1954

        That’s because he hadn’t had anything alcoholic to drink. He turned up positive for MJ on the tox screen. He was stoned, not drunk, dummy.

  • GinoMachiavelli

    A consequence of bad parenting.

    “Johnny, don’t ever go there. You’ll get hurt” – at age of 10 would have worked well for this gentleman.

    • 1proactive2

      Oops! Too much common sense in your post!

      Then again, many people are still very much uniformed as to the dangers of black groups on the street. Then there are those amazingly naive people who want to demonstrate to who-knows-who that they’re not “prejudiced”. Slowly, however, the message is getting out.

    • ziggy zoggy

      Yeah, because the police sure wont help him. Scumbags.

  • KnowThyEnemy

    WTF? I am seeing an Al Jazeera America ad right at the top of this page.

    • EarlyBird

      Oh no! Don’t get any news about the Middle East directly from the source itself! Everthing must be filtered through Fox, Limbaugh and Fear Rage Magazine, or you might start thinking for yourself. How terrifying.

      • ziggy zoggy

        I saw you on Al Jazeera listed under free Iranian twinky. Does your butt still hurt?

      • Smoking Hamster

        If I ever want to watch Osama’s videos straight from the source I know where to go.

  • NCMountainGirl

    Some of the information in this article is skewed. Streeterville is the area north of the Chicago River and east of Michigan Avenue. It is almost five miles from the gay community on Halstead Street. While many gays live there, Streeterville is not considered a “gay community”.

    The attacks were widely reported in 2011 and arrests were quickly made. That was because Streeterville includes some of Chicago’s most expensive stores, restaurants and condos along with esteemed institutions- Northwestern Memorial Hospital and Northwestern Law School among them. Nor was the 2011 crime wave centered exclusively on gay people. Upscale stores were looted and a variety of non blacks attacked.

    The incident that rocked people I know was a mob attack upon an Asian doctor returning home after his shift at the hospital. Many post-residents rent in Streeterville because it is convenient to the medical center. He was attacked right outside the condo I had lived at for 20 years.

    • http://WhiteGirlBleedaLot.com/ ColinFlaherty

      Show me the link that reported the race of the Chicago attackers; then google “obtuse.”

  • http://tinatrent.com/ Tina Trent

    At Screens on the Green in Atlanta, the thugs did not just attack gays — they attacked random moviegoers.

    Many of these assaults only gain attention if a competing identity group can claim victimization. Then, thanks to the ugly confluence of hate crimes activism and critical race/roots of crime theories, minorities representing both the victim and the offender unite to blame society (read: whites) for the crime itself.

    This was the original intent of hate crime laws: reimagine crime as a racial phenomenon caused by whites, and bury the facts about violence by black males. They have certainly succeeded in the media.

    • Tom

      Ain’t that the truth

    • ziggy zoggy

      They attacked White moviegoers. Not exactly random.

  • MannieP

    He’s almost certainly a Democrat. He voted for that crap, and supports Democrat policies that maintain and encourage violent Black culture. He supports disarming Americans and turning us into victims. So who cares? Democrat on Democrat violence. Maybe they’ll kill each other off.

    He’ll still vote Democrat.

  • Boots

    Being liberal trumps all. Mentioning the race of the perps would cause them more angst than the crime against another victim class. It’s obvious the liberal are more than happy to side with black criminals over gay victims.

  • Demetrius Minneapolis

    So now the MSM needs to determine who they love more – the homos or the blacks. Will they become homophobes or racists? Got to make a decision here because it’s always black or white for them, there must be someone to blame. And this time there is no TEA party member in sight.

    • Aizino Smith

      It depends on who can hurt them more. Their mental disorder is not total. Most of them try to save their sorry skin

  • Charles Martel

    Maybe there is a cause black youth and white straight males can come together on and run the gays back into their disgusting closet.

    • Luke James

      Go fuck your self you vile magot

      • Cold_Drake_80

        But he’s a good FPMer. He posts slurs against Muslims and a genocidal goon. For example:
        From ““Anarchaqueer” Proudly Destroys College 9/11 Memorial”

        “I am beginning to feel genocide is sometimes justified just as in the
        Old Testsment God told the Jew to destroy an entire nation of put to
        clear the land of evil.”

        That makes him the embodiment of good FPM group mind. All good FPMers will play kissy face with Martel he’s very much at home.

        Sickening ain’t it?

        • Guy Fromage

          Google “false flag,” “concern troll,” and “Moby.”

          Oh, and in light of your presence, “sock puppet” also seems apropos.

          • Cold_Drake_80

            Nice try. Bigoted comments are the norm on FPM so you’re going to have to eat it. Try owning some of your own fail before whining about other people.

          • Guy Fromage

            Said the sock puppeteer.

          • Drakken

            Oh, did your precious feelings get hurt? Perhaps mommy didn’t give you a cookie, maybe they didn’t give you a trophy for just making it to school? Perhaps you need more self esteem counseling?

          • Satan

            Concern troll is the reincarnation of SNL’s Church Lady.

  • Jason Nash

    I will say this, START A CHANGE.ORG petition, go after the police..
    In the AA community and hispanic/latin is very shunned, but they hide it more even though they have those feelings, their families wont accept it because their brainwashed by religion and this BS manly culture. Here in Nyc I’ve known a few homosexual’s that you dont wanna “jump” or fight with, ones a pro boxer. I would bet atleast one of those attackers is homosexual on the DL. You’d be supprised on the amount of rappers and hip hop artist that are gay on the DL. Pretty sure lil wayne banged a tranny.

    • sharptongue

      Why go after the police?

      If the police had arrested the black youths and Al Sharpton had shown up to protest, would you be there to lead the counter protest?

      Let me answer for you. the answer is no. i know this because there are not many counter protest of Al Sharpton by people left of center.

      Instead you give his rating on MSNBC.

      You do not support the police so why should they support you?

      It takes a village.

      • ziggy zoggy

        Fuck the po lice. If they want to be tough guys they need balls.

  • Jason Nash

    Also shouldent they be charged with a hate crime when they get caught

    • Race_Dissident

      I strongly suspect hate crimes tend to be prosecuted very selectively, i.e. when whitey is doin’ the hatin’.

      • Guy Fromage

        True, dat. The perps should be charged with assault; maybe even attempted murder, given what they said during the crime. Punish them severely, and leave thoughtcrime out of it.

      • MrUniteUs1

        Why do right wing Jews like to say “whitey”
        Whites, Blacks, and Hispanics, have been convicted of hate crimes.

        • Guy Fromage

          What’s with the “Jews?”

        • Race_Dissident

          There’s some truth in what you say. According to FBI statistics going back many years, blacks are more than twice as likely as whites to be convicted of “hate crimes.” I suspect, however, that if these laws were prosecuted more evenhandedly, the black “hate crime” commission rate would be five times that of the white.

        • DB1954

          Seig Heil! Say, that’s a funny little mustache you have there, Schicklegruber.

          • Aizino Smith

            DB,

            You are taking it for granted that MrUniteUs1 is well read enough to know the Schicklegruber reference or that he is well read at all.

            It is a funny repartee but entirely wasted on a historically, functionally illiterate.

    • http://www.facebook.com/aemoreira81 aemoreira81

      The first question will be: are they eligible? The 13-year old suspect isn’t eligible to be tried as an adult in Ohio; the lowest age for potential transfer eligibility in OH is 14. As such, hate crimes could potentially be out of the question.

      • ziggy zoggy

        So put him in a roomful of bull queers in Juvie.

  • Race_Dissident

    Blacks are becoming so feral and psychotic that it behooves nobody to live within ten miles of them. For now, the response we see is white–and probably homosexual–flight. But at some point, when black on non-black violence crosses a threshold, the non-blacks will double back, armed and in force, and eliminate this problem vigilante style.
    Incidentally, terrific article by Flaherty. This is an important piece and merits wide distribution. Alas, it will largely be confined to the alternative media ghetto.

    • Guy Fromage

      I suggest Thomas Sowell’s Black Rednecks and White Liberals. Hell of a read.

    • Cold_Drake_80

      So you’re advocating race war? How FPM of you.

      • Guy Fromage

        You mean, like Farrakhan? He’s a FPMer?

      • Drakken

        You blacks are pushing for it, and will make it inevitable by your behavior, the reason you blacks persist in pushing us is because no one is fighting back against it, but the day is coming fast where a extreme backlash is coming.

        • Cold_Drake_80

          So you are a white supremacist advocating race war. Also, moron, I’m not black. You’re just assuming that so you can have a target for the hatred. Ain’t gonna work now go back to being D. Hoe’s bitchboy.

          • Drakken

            I am not advocating anything and I am far from a supremist, I am simply stating what is going to happen if the black community fails to reign in their Congo like behavior. It is as simple as that. But a regressive, self hating, self loathing, white libtard like you can’t see facts because it goes against your emotions and feelings, get a clue dumbazz.

          • Cold_Drake_80

            Yeah, you’re not a racist. Just everything you say and do is racist but you would never be a racist. I’m sure that’s it.

          • Drakken

            What a good little libtard that you are, I feel, therefore I am as your policy positions, how quaint and special.

          • Cold_Drake_80

            Wow that was particularly incoherent – even by FPM standards – did you suffer oxygen deprivation to your brain from swallowing your tongue again? You should probably take your lithium.

          • Drakken

            Your throw out the race and bigot card like so much confetti, in case you haven’t noticed, that dog don’t hunt no more. You libtards do keep trying though.

          • Cold_Drake_80

            Yeah, you have the skirts of the republican party to hide behind. Look I know integrity, morality, and intellectual standards have no place at FPM but in reality they count for a lot. You can stay in your little FPM circle making screeching noises or you can actually do something meaningful with what’s less of the wreck you’ve made of your life. Up to you.

          • Drakken

            I will guarantee you shortbus that I make at least 4 times what you make in a year. It is too bad that integrity, morality and any type of intellectual debate with you regressives is an exercise in futility, because you talk a good game, but in the end, your all about feelings instead of cold hard facts and logic, which it is obvious that you severely lack. You blame conservatives because we point out the problems and you want to cover them up to avoid offending people and their precious sensibilities, your nothing but a big mouth coward and I don’t suffer fools or useful idiots, I neither have the time nor the patience. I just call libtards like you future Darwin Award Winners.

          • ziggy zoggy

            This entire thread decries Black against gay violence. Despite being extremely gay, you oppose that out of leftard stupidity and uncontrollable depravity. So much for integrity, morality and intellectual standards.

            Let me guess: Your pimp is a Black racist.

          • DB1954

            You assume far too much about people you don’t know, but then, that’s the liberal modus operandi. Besides that, you’re wasting your time here. We’re not liberals, and we don’t respond to liberals’ attempts to pin the blame on whitey, aka, cartoonish and fatuous smears and ceaseless guilt-mongering.

          • ziggy zoggy

            Did you O.D. On a lethal does of spooge? Does sucking d!€k kill brain cells?

          • Race_Dissident

            The idiotic race card has no purchase around here. We laugh at it. Just like we are laughing at you.

          • Race_Dissident

            Like me, he’s probably a civilization and intelligence supremacist. And that has the effect of puting blacks on the outside.

      • Race_Dissident

        Not quite. What I am doing is pointing out a probability if blacks don’t cease brutalizing those around them. You can push people only so far before they react. And when that reaction commences, the decades worth of PC propaganda about the villainy of the Blue-Eyed Ice Devils and the saintliness of the oppressed black suddenly won’t matter a dam’.

        • Guy Fromage

          Never mind that whites who explicitly advocate race wars often end up in prison (Manson), blacks who do the same end up running whole religions (Farrakhan, Yaweh-ben-Yaweh, et. al.)

  • Guy Fromage

    Perhaps this type of crime will come to be known as being “Trayvonned.”

    Nah. That would make too much sense.

    • DB1954

      Those in which the person charged is obviously not guilty but rather the victim of the crime will continue to be known as cases in which the defendant is “railroaded.” Quaintly old-fashioned, ce n’est pas?

      • Guy Fromage

        I’m all for tradition, but how about a little freshening up? People caught in such a fix, could be referred to as “Zimmermaned.”

        • DB1954

          Why not?

  • Juaniita

    sounds to me like a hate crime, they targeted this poor man because he’s gay. Oh where’s Obama now??? I don’t see him speaking out for this White Gay man!!

    • http://www.facebook.com/aemoreira81 aemoreira81

      If you are interested in justice, you’ll want the President to remain silent. You can get justice, or you can get a Presidential comment…but a Presidential comment will be seen as prejudging without the benefit of a jury trial and a smart lawyer would use it as grounds to demand a dismissal. There is no indication that justice will be denied…but a Presidential comment either way could do that.

      Don West and Mark O’Mara could really have pushed for a dismissal ahead of trial if they so desired, and in the Charles Manson case, had the jury not been sequestered, Manson would have walked (Nixon made public comments on the case).

      • ziggy zoggy

        Obangi’s idiotic and deeply racist comments about Widdle Twayvon and his racist professor buddy didn’t cause a dismissal against Zimmerman.

        • http://www.facebook.com/aemoreira81 aemoreira81

          That was only because Don West and Mark O’Mara did not push for one.

          • DB1954

            Well it didn’t help that the moron judges in Seminole County FL wouldn’t stop telegraphing their personal animosity for the defendant, George Zimmerman as well as their contempt for his constitutional rights. The first one was deeply offended that GZ wouldn’t come in to his court and plead guilty. That was so obvious, the Court of Appeals had to remove him for the hissy fit he had, claiming that GZ lied under oath. Funny that GZ was never actually charged with perjury, though his wife was, falsely. I’m hoping that the Florida JQC or the voters of Seminole County will remove this bunghole before he physically attacks someone who dares to enter a plea of not guilty. The battle-ax who took his place could scarcely contain her anger when the jury acquitted him. God, where DO we get these lunatic judges?

        • DB1954

          St. Skittles the Innocent– Martyr.

      • Juaniita

        BINGO!! The President needs to remain silent. However the Pres.
        interjected his personal option on a few criminal cases already. By him doing so he enacted more race hate, and divided America even more. If a Pres. is to comment he/she should only say
        “I have faith the judicial system will do its job”.

  • MrUniteUs1

    When whites attack gays they kill them. Matthew Shepard, Harvey Milk, etc. But see white crime in indivualized, black crime is racialized.
    Black recently asked for help after car accident and was gunned down by
    police, Shot ten times. He committed no crime. He was just Black.

    Whites blamed gays for everything from 911 to Hurricane Katrina.
    But you never hear the term White homophobia.

    • Aizino Smith

      I love you man even though you are not all there.

      Matthew Shepard Narrative Challenged in New Book

      http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2013/09/15/matthew-shepard-narrative-challenged-in-new-book/

      Happy Reading

      • DB1954

        I read this from pjmedia. It’s worth reading.

    • Guy Fromage

      You forgot to blame Jews for something.

    • Carlos Danger

      MrUniteUs1……wow…..you are soooooooooooo smart!

    • DB1954

      WHITES BLAMED GAYS FOR 9-11? THEY BLAMED GAYS FOR KATRINA? WTF? Wow that’s news to me.

      The motive in the Matthew Shepard case was ROBBERY, not murder. Murder was the means of keeping the victim silent about the robbery. Sheppard was NOT targeted because he was gay. He was targeted because the two little pea-brained morons figured that as a gay man, they knew he was easy prey for a ROBBERY. They figured he was a “sissy,” who wouldn’t fight back. They didn’t look at him and say, oh let’s kill the “kweer,” and after that decided to take his billfold, watch, and jewelry. No, the motive was robbery. The M.O. was felony assault, battery, and murder.

      Harvey Milk was murdered by a member of the San Francisco City Council, a liberal Democrat (as was Milk), who had actually sided with Milk and other council members on issues relating to the then growing gay community in San Fran. The murderer was jealous of Milk’s growing political power, especially within the Democratic Party in that vicinity. Besides, did any white, straight people come to the accused’s defense, I mean, did they come out and say, “Oh yeah we approve of Harvey Milk’s murder because he was gay.” Hell no, they didn’t. You know that, so why do you come here with that kind of divisive trash? No straight person in their right mind thinks it’s “cool” to kill someone for being gay, for being black, for being Jewish or anything else. I mean seriously, dude? Where do you come up with this crap?

  • antioli

    Why did they not attack the gay bar. ?

    Do they attack the Black patrons of the gay bar?
    How does the gay bar stay in business?
    Are you sure it wasn’t because he was white?

  • Shannon Rachford

    This is what the Progressive life values have created is America. No longer care who may have committed the crime. Maybe the other guy did something worse. Pass blame.
    Just like with guns, not the operator only the tool. Sucks.

  • marineh2ominer

    I am a white guy , and I don’t agree with assaulting ANYONE , but I do have a bit of advice for faggots in ANY community , GO BACK IN YOUR DAMN CLOSET AND STAY THERE . Normal people that are not sexual perverts will NEVER want to be around you , except for the idiotic progressives trying to destroy our nation by growing IMMORALITY .

  • laura rubin

    police are afraid to intervene. maybe the federal govt discourages this. am i projecting?

    • DB1954

      Who knows what the government does or doesn’t do these days?

  • Dennis Opihory

    were both these gay guys white as well? seems to me race is also an issue here.

    • http://WhiteGirlBleedaLot.com/ ColinFlaherty

      yes.

  • DeShawn

    So I do not support violence in any form, and what this group of black youths did to this gay man was wrong. But here’s the problem. You gotta understand that blacks are raised with very strong Christian values, and all this in your face homosexuality is really disgusting to us. It’s amoral behavior and it has been for thousands of years…until recently. At the same time, black kids are being pumped full of violence and propaganda from the media and entertainment industry…gansta culture and such. On the other end, the same media has been trying to convince folks now for a while that being gay is OK and that you should parade it around. So the homosexuals are all out and in your face about it now. It’s not OK, it is sinful and decadant behavior.

    Basically, both the black community and the homosexuals are the victims of the same wicked force: the satanic jews who control the media and entertainment industry. These jews push homosexuality in our culture AND violence and thug life in our black communities. They try there best to pit different groups against each other. It’s a survival and money making strategy for them, and their Talmud teaches them that all gentiles or “goys” as they call us are nothing more than cattle and can be used and abused.

    Until ALL us goys wake up and join together to confront the jewish threat, things will only get worse. The jews are destroying the country and polluting the culture, and that’s EXACTLY what they intend to do. If you want to learn more about this, I would urge you to go onto YouTube and google videos by the Honorable Minster Louis Farrakhan and David Duke. They have completely different beliefs, yes, but they agree on the jewish question, the most IMPORTANT issue of our time. THank you for your time.

    • UCSPanther

      Nice try, and thanks for wasting your time with that long winded two-bit propaganda piece.

      Now, go back to your sewer and stay there.

      • DeShawn

        I wasn’t talking to you, jew. I was talking to the goys who are ignorant of your agenda. You know EXACTLY what kinda mischeif you’re up to. You are of your father the DEVIL.

        • UCSPanther

          I love how you neo-nazis assume that everyone who opposes you is either (a), a jew, (b) a communist or (c) a gay.

          Obviously, you need to get your nose out of Der Sturmer and take a good look around, but then again, I don’t hold out much hope for you.

          A warning: You try acting out your genocidal fantasies, and I guarantee that you WILL end up just like Trayvon Martin…

        • DB1954

          DeShawn, I’m not Jewish, but here’s the deal: violence against anyone is not the Christian way. Violence is only acceptable in legitimate self-defense or defense of another person or if one is a soldier in war defending one’s country. Lots of those old Kluxers claimed to be “Christians,” but what they did can hardly be called Christian.

    • johnnywood

      “very strong Christian values”, Really?

      • DeShawn

        Yes, sir. Blacks are among the most religious groups in America. We look down on homosexuality and other pervisions much more than many other groups do.

        • UCSPanther

          And you sir, are a liar.

          Now go back to studying your tired 1920s era hate propaganda…

        • johnnywood

          Being “very religious” does not equate with being Christian.

        • DB1954

          Yes, but I’m not aware of any black preachers who endorse beating up gays just for being gay, however repulsive they are to you. We could just, leave them alone, you know? Wouldn’t that be the Christian way?

      • DB1954

        Hmm, not mine.

  • Michael__Durham

    Marxist selective indignation and agenda prioritization in action:

    There are far more young black males than there are gay men in the U.S. – and no one knows better how to to manipulate these black males for class warfare / race “struggle” tactical purposes than the race-baiting Communist “Democrat” party, along with the deeply devout “Christian Reverends”, Sharpton & Jackson, and their various front groups and their Bolshevik media apparatchiks.

    The point is, right now, black male violence is actually well-organized and funded (typical DemonRAT terror/thug tactics, akin to the K.K.K. – also a DemonRAT terror outfit), and it tactically functions as a means to hasten the consolidation of Leftist/communist cultural and political rule in the U.S. It trumps the Left-monopolized “gay rights” victim industry. It is far more practical and useful for these vermin, right now. Hence the strict, rigid party-line silence of the Leftist “gay” frauds in their media (Anderson Cooper, et al). They all march in lock-step, when given their neo-Bolshevik orders. “Gay” issues have to take a backseat now to the DemonRat “Knockout Game” and its politics. “The issue is never the issue. The revolution is always the issue” – Alinsky

    • johnnywood

      Does the name George Soros come to mind?

    • DB1954

      Don’t use the word “Bolshevik.” That was the word, our neo-Marxist President used in order to “prove” how “absurd” the charge that he’s a “socialist.” In other words, Obama claimed that the conservatives’ suspicions that he’s a Marxist of some kind were completely absurd since he’s obviously not a “Bolshevik,” a bunch of Russian revolutionaries from 100 years ago. Obama OBVIOUSLY isn’t a Bolshevik. He’s a neo-Marxist or Marxist or Marxist-Leninist or a Stalinist perhaps, but not a Bolshevik. And yes, he really, really, IS a Marxist. Always has been. Don’t allow him to make us look like fools by setting up straw man arguments. He’s a master of the straw man argument, and we have to understand this. Call him a communist or whatever, but not a Bolshevik.

  • Craig Gorsuch

    So how would the MSM report this? Blacks (as a group) and LGBTs (as a group) are supposed to both be “oppressed” by evil, racist, homophobic, straight white people (as a group). This kind of story breaks the mold, therefore it is not reported.

  • Shmalkandik

    Are Queers, good little liberals, still opposed to 2nd Ammendment rights?

    Perhaps not.

    See http://www.pinkpistols.org/

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  • ziggy zoggy

    True. That low life calls heteros “breeders.” Too bad he hasn’t been beaten yet. He actually deserves it.

  • Lovette Dove

    this is normal for blacks, to attack and get away with it. we have been looking the other way with Muslim and black violence, whites just are not safe in black communities and white kids are not safe in schools with a large enrollment of blacks. u never know when blacks will go out in gangs and beat whites
    blacks are the most violent and racist group of people there are they tolerate noone else

    • johnnywood

      I understand your anger but you need to realize that these “black youths” are mostly ghetto dwelling welfare whores who think that the world owes them something just because they are here. Most American Blacks do not take part in this type of criminal activity.

      • DB1954

        But the perception that they are is growing among whites. I would argue that’s because of the astonishing and now visible rise of racism among blacks and the growing false claims of racism directed by blacks at whites in recent years, especially since 2008 and the election of Barack Obama. Many whites today feel, rightly or wrongly, that they are being targeted by blacks, black elites, and white liberals for racial retribution or “pay back” merely for having white skin. There’s also a perception that because Barack Obama is president, blacks are now pressing for unfair advantages because the face of executive authority at the federal level is largely black, and that authority is essentially aiding racist blacks because those in authority hold racial animosity for whites. Barack Obama’s racism is simply palpable, and white Americans are beginning to realize just who this man is and has always been: an America hater because he sees America as a “white” nation and therefore hostile to him.

        • johnnywood

          I am thankful that I got over my “white guilt” before Obummer ran for PODUS and so felt no need to vote for that commie.

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  • ytdontplay

    According to an Howard University study, 65% of black men are on the “down low”.

    • DB1954

      I doubt that’s a real study. If it is, I doubt it’s claim.

  • Evans Tibetsy

    Gays want to feel like they have something in common with African American regarding being oppressed, etc. and to be included on the civil rights bandwagon. African Americans do not want them, not on the bandwagon, not at the table, not anywhere near them. Gays need to get a clue but continue to sing kumbaya.

  • SirElton

    Don’t most Blacks consider homosexuality unnatural and a sign something went wrong? How weird is that?

    • DB1954

      How weird is that so many black men on “on the down low (the DL) that they made up a phrase to describe it? How weird is that blacks continue to support Barack Obama since he’s dripping lavender to anyone with “gaydar.” BTW, some straight men have gaydar too. We employ it to know when to make a quick exit.

  • 13Sisters76

    Something for you gay folks to consider: you are a useful group for those on the left, and they make use of you when it suits them. But your numbers come nowhere near the percentage of blacks in the population, a group far more important to them. So, when push comes to shove and it is YOU against them? You lose. Sorry, but the agenda is far too important.

  • DB1954

    Uh, I agree. I think. “Metastatic cultural infection”? Uh … um … never mind. lol

    • Guy Fromage

      I’m hardly an expert, just pointing out the fairly common knowledge that pot can induce paranoia, and probably less well-known fact that T’s autopsy, beside showing active THC in his system, also revealed brain atrophy and lesions consistent with lean use.

      • DB1954

        Right, I read that too.

  • tickletik

    I think from now on whenever anyone uses the meme “perfect storm” in their writings they should be taken out and whipped with 10 lashes.