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		<title>By: Camille Cazedessus</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Camille Cazedessus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Oct 2013 02:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sir: According to DECISION AT YALTA, FDR and Winston were so ignorant of Polish and Russian geography, they were incapable of responding properly to Stalin&#039;s demands, and he used their ignorance to hoodwink both of them!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sir: According to DECISION AT YALTA, FDR and Winston were so ignorant of Polish and Russian geography, they were incapable of responding properly to Stalin&#8217;s demands, and he used their ignorance to hoodwink both of them!</p>
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		<title>By: ReyR</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ReyR]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Oct 2013 03:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[TienBing, 你他妈的走狗别冲着我嚎啦.
天兵吗? 天病吧.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TienBing, 你他妈的走狗别冲着我嚎啦.<br />
天兵吗? 天病吧.</p>
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		<title>By: TienBing</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TienBing]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Oct 2013 22:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Paine was considered a malcontent (compulsive dissenter), a rabble rouser, and a social misfit by those who disagreed with his passionate orations and writings  concerning freedom and resistance to tyrants.
I didn&#039;t claim Bukovsky = Paine. That is your own barking echoing in your mind.
You see parallels between de Blasio and Lenin? I don&#039;t. de Blasio is merely a cheap run of the mill Democrat pol. Lenin was truly dangerous]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paine was considered a malcontent (compulsive dissenter), a rabble rouser, and a social misfit by those who disagreed with his passionate orations and writings  concerning freedom and resistance to tyrants.<br />
I didn&#8217;t claim Bukovsky = Paine. That is your own barking echoing in your mind.<br />
You see parallels between de Blasio and Lenin? I don&#8217;t. de Blasio is merely a cheap run of the mill Democrat pol. Lenin was truly dangerous</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Oct 2013 11:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Your conclusions about WWII are divorced from reality. When did Patton cross the Elbe and liberate Poland again - in your fantasy world?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your conclusions about WWII are divorced from reality. When did Patton cross the Elbe and liberate Poland again &#8211; in your fantasy world?</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Oct 2013 11:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Answer the question: when did Patton cross the Elbe and liberate Poland - in your fantasy world?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Answer the question: when did Patton cross the Elbe and liberate Poland &#8211; in your fantasy world?</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Oct 2013 11:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Says the figure of fun who&#039;s had how many comments deleted now?


When did Patton cross the Elbe and liberate Poland again - in your fantasy world?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Says the figure of fun who&#8217;s had how many comments deleted now?</p>
<p>When did Patton cross the Elbe and liberate Poland again &#8211; in your fantasy world?</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Paddon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric Paddon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Oct 2013 02:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Your presumption that your own perspective is free of &quot;ideology&quot; does not, I fear, pass the smell test.   In endorsing someone like Leffler who ultimately makes what I would call an ideological argument of his own about the supposed badness of US policymakers who did not encourage some kind of kumbaya rapprochment with an evil regime in the late 1940s, you are in the end, like it or not siding with someone who is making an ideological argument that the heinous nature of the Soviet state and its conduct deserved no consideration in the shaping of our policy.      It is not a &quot;non-ideological&quot; perspective.

West’s book is indeed a popular account for a wider audience but one that nonetheless restates for that audience, arguments made in academic works by Evans and Romerstein.     The point is not that I agree 100% with West (I don’t), but that she expresses a perspective that is not part of some oddball fringe territory as Radosh/Horowitz attempted to characterize it.    One that is certainly more legitimate than say the Howard Zinn perspective (or more legitimate than the William Appleman Williams perspective that held too much sway in our diplomatic histories for far too long; there was a case where an exercise in so-called &quot;revisionism&quot; was fawned over if it served a particular ideological purpose, in this case blaming America for the Cold War.   OTOH, if &quot;revisionism&quot; is employed to suggest a new look at McCarthy, then WATCH OUT!)

What’s impressive about the work of Evans/Romerstein is that it does utilize evidence which West does amplify on and ask us to consider.   Evidence that is usually not considered in other works (such as Gaddis for instance).    To suggest your authors have been flawlessly thorough to the nth degree and thus immunize themselves from charges of being an &quot;ideologue&quot; is again, not going to be credible.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your presumption that your own perspective is free of &#8220;ideology&#8221; does not, I fear, pass the smell test.   In endorsing someone like Leffler who ultimately makes what I would call an ideological argument of his own about the supposed badness of US policymakers who did not encourage some kind of kumbaya rapprochment with an evil regime in the late 1940s, you are in the end, like it or not siding with someone who is making an ideological argument that the heinous nature of the Soviet state and its conduct deserved no consideration in the shaping of our policy.      It is not a &#8220;non-ideological&#8221; perspective.</p>
<p>West’s book is indeed a popular account for a wider audience but one that nonetheless restates for that audience, arguments made in academic works by Evans and Romerstein.     The point is not that I agree 100% with West (I don’t), but that she expresses a perspective that is not part of some oddball fringe territory as Radosh/Horowitz attempted to characterize it.    One that is certainly more legitimate than say the Howard Zinn perspective (or more legitimate than the William Appleman Williams perspective that held too much sway in our diplomatic histories for far too long; there was a case where an exercise in so-called &#8220;revisionism&#8221; was fawned over if it served a particular ideological purpose, in this case blaming America for the Cold War.   OTOH, if &#8220;revisionism&#8221; is employed to suggest a new look at McCarthy, then WATCH OUT!)</p>
<p>What’s impressive about the work of Evans/Romerstein is that it does utilize evidence which West does amplify on and ask us to consider.   Evidence that is usually not considered in other works (such as Gaddis for instance).    To suggest your authors have been flawlessly thorough to the nth degree and thus immunize themselves from charges of being an &#8220;ideologue&#8221; is again, not going to be credible.</p>
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		<title>By: PassthePopcorn</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PassthePopcorn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Oct 2013 20:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And I&#039;m a former student of Ernest May&#039;s.   But your reply highlights the big difference between how we approach evaluating historical work.  Like all ideologues, you measure how closely a given piece of work conforms to your ideological commitments.  I prefer to measure how evidence is mustered in support of logical arguments.  By your standard, the West book is a legitimate contribution to the literature on the Cold War.  By mine, it&#039;s agitprop for the converted.  But if a book starts these kinds of public playground fights on the hard right, I&#039;m all for it.  



Orville Redenbacher for Speaker of the House!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I&#8217;m a former student of Ernest May&#8217;s.   But your reply highlights the big difference between how we approach evaluating historical work.  Like all ideologues, you measure how closely a given piece of work conforms to your ideological commitments.  I prefer to measure how evidence is mustered in support of logical arguments.  By your standard, the West book is a legitimate contribution to the literature on the Cold War.  By mine, it&#8217;s agitprop for the converted.  But if a book starts these kinds of public playground fights on the hard right, I&#8217;m all for it.  </p>
<p>Orville Redenbacher for Speaker of the House!</p>
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		<title>By: RCraigen</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RCraigen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Oct 2013 20:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Still trying to get traction with (what you describe as) your &quot;pun&quot; on West&#039;s name, ZZ?  I&#039;ve got a better suggestion.  How about calling us &quot;Men of The West&quot;?  Works for me on both levels.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still trying to get traction with (what you describe as) your &#8220;pun&#8221; on West&#8217;s name, ZZ?  I&#8217;ve got a better suggestion.  How about calling us &#8220;Men of The West&#8221;?  Works for me on both levels.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Paddon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric Paddon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Oct 2013 19:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m a former student of Gaddis&#039;s actually.   Some commendable stuff but he is part of that group that hesitates from addressing the deeper picture of the impact of what spying had on the shaping of US policy.     But the point you miss is that I take the view that the Evans/West perspective is legitimate to the discussion for consideration and Radosh simply wants it kept out, which is what I&#039;m objecting to.     Radosh believes there should only be one &quot;anti-Communist&quot; perspective and that&#039;s where he&#039;s getting raked over the coals.    As for Leffler, his recent study tried to place the blame on the Cold War for the unreasonableness of anti-Soviet policymakers which in the end proves his valuelessness on this subject.      The point of Evans/West is to note that at critical junctures, anti-Soviet advisors were the ones being kept silent while pro-Soviet advisors and in some cases spies were exercising disastrous influence.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a former student of Gaddis&#8217;s actually.   Some commendable stuff but he is part of that group that hesitates from addressing the deeper picture of the impact of what spying had on the shaping of US policy.     But the point you miss is that I take the view that the Evans/West perspective is legitimate to the discussion for consideration and Radosh simply wants it kept out, which is what I&#8217;m objecting to.     Radosh believes there should only be one &#8220;anti-Communist&#8221; perspective and that&#8217;s where he&#8217;s getting raked over the coals.    As for Leffler, his recent study tried to place the blame on the Cold War for the unreasonableness of anti-Soviet policymakers which in the end proves his valuelessness on this subject.      The point of Evans/West is to note that at critical junctures, anti-Soviet advisors were the ones being kept silent while pro-Soviet advisors and in some cases spies were exercising disastrous influence.</p>
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		<title>By: PassthePopcorn</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PassthePopcorn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Oct 2013 12:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Zinn and Foner are not my type--much too ideological.  I&#039;ll take my cold war history from John Lewis Gaddis, Ernest May, Vojtech Mastny, Melvyn Leffler, and Allen Weinstein.  You know, serious scholars.  Watching you guys argue over fine points of hard right doctrine and how someone&#039;s family origins &quot;prove&quot; they are a communist deep down is like watching a bunch of old CPUSA guys argue with a bunch of old NYU Trotskyites....comical.  



 I&#039;ll have my next bowl with some of that Old Bay seasoning on it.  Spicy......]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zinn and Foner are not my type&#8211;much too ideological.  I&#8217;ll take my cold war history from John Lewis Gaddis, Ernest May, Vojtech Mastny, Melvyn Leffler, and Allen Weinstein.  You know, serious scholars.  Watching you guys argue over fine points of hard right doctrine and how someone&#8217;s family origins &#8220;prove&#8221; they are a communist deep down is like watching a bunch of old CPUSA guys argue with a bunch of old NYU Trotskyites&#8230;.comical.  </p>
<p> I&#8217;ll have my next bowl with some of that Old Bay seasoning on it.  Spicy&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: MikeNZ</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MikeNZ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Oct 2013 07:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[sorry mad jewess, that&#039;s a cop out and makes you intellectually and morally weak.
The vary fact that David has behaved in the way he has is hurting Him (Karma - every word every txt, every tweet will be judged) according to the Jewish sages.
He is hurting Frontpage the organisation as it doesn&#039;t deal to his behaviour.
MikeNZ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry mad jewess, that&#8217;s a cop out and makes you intellectually and morally weak.<br />
The vary fact that David has behaved in the way he has is hurting Him (Karma &#8211; every word every txt, every tweet will be judged) according to the Jewish sages.<br />
He is hurting Frontpage the organisation as it doesn&#8217;t deal to his behaviour.<br />
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		<title>By: Shortall</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shortall]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Oct 2013 05:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[David is one of the greatest fighters for freedom &amp; humanity ever. David is one of my favorite people ever. I thank God for David everyday. I ve been in the presence of many great heroes from WW1 (grandparents,etc), WW2&amp; Korea (Dad &amp; Uncles&amp; friends` Dads , etc), Nam( cousins, friends...etc)... &amp; all these young guys ( Iraq &amp; Afghanistan), ... David is right up there in my book.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David is one of the greatest fighters for freedom &amp; humanity ever. David is one of my favorite people ever. I thank God for David everyday. I ve been in the presence of many great heroes from WW1 (grandparents,etc), WW2&amp; Korea (Dad &amp; Uncles&amp; friends` Dads , etc), Nam( cousins, friends&#8230;etc)&#8230; &amp; all these young guys ( Iraq &amp; Afghanistan), &#8230; David is right up there in my book.</p>
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		<title>By: semus</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[semus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Oct 2013 03:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It appears that someone is deciding to not post certain blogs. I had commented on this column and they don&#039;t seem to be here any longer. So whoever did this put them back. I was critical of Mr. Horowitz&#039; but I didn&#039;t use profanity. I did question is motives and I still do. I&#039;m sorry to say because I had so much respect for him once.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It appears that someone is deciding to not post certain blogs. I had commented on this column and they don&#8217;t seem to be here any longer. So whoever did this put them back. I was critical of Mr. Horowitz&#8217; but I didn&#8217;t use profanity. I did question is motives and I still do. I&#8217;m sorry to say because I had so much respect for him once.</p>
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		<title>By: laura</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[laura]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Oct 2013 02:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[you need to contact the site. i had some of his comments deleted last month. they said if there are more complaints about him, he will be banned.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you need to contact the site. i had some of his comments deleted last month. they said if there are more complaints about him, he will be banned.</p>
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		<title>By: RCraigen</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RCraigen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Oct 2013 23:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It must be entertaining.  I&#039;ll provide you with some colour commentary.  You see, conservatives have these things called principles...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It must be entertaining.  I&#8217;ll provide you with some colour commentary.  You see, conservatives have these things called principles&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Texas Patriot</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Texas Patriot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Oct 2013 20:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m glad you&#039;re enjoying it.  You can think of this as Republican war games.  By the time we&#039;re finished, we&#039;ll have more than enough troops and ammunition to Deep Six your party once and for all.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad you&#8217;re enjoying it.  You can think of this as Republican war games.  By the time we&#8217;re finished, we&#8217;ll have more than enough troops and ammunition to Deep Six your party once and for all.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Paddon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric Paddon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Oct 2013 20:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[WHich means you no doubt think the genuine cuckoo books of Howard Zinn, Eric Foner et. al constitute &quot;serious&quot; scholarship.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WHich means you no doubt think the genuine cuckoo books of Howard Zinn, Eric Foner et. al constitute &#8220;serious&#8221; scholarship.</p>
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		<title>By: PassThePopcorn</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PassThePopcorn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Oct 2013 20:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Please keep this discussion going.,...There&#039;s nothing more entertaining than seeing hardcore ideologues tear it up over cuckoo-bird history books.  But then, I&#039;m a liberal Democrat.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please keep this discussion going.,&#8230;There&#8217;s nothing more entertaining than seeing hardcore ideologues tear it up over cuckoo-bird history books.  But then, I&#8217;m a liberal Democrat.</p>
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		<title>By: Texas Patriot</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Texas Patriot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Oct 2013 20:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;d think Horowitz would chalk it up to a weak moment and apologize. 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8V_hCqO6UQs]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;d think Horowitz would chalk it up to a weak moment and apologize.<br />
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