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		<title>By: Philip LaFrance</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/david-horowitz/uniting-the-right/comment-page-1/#comment-5371074</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Philip LaFrance]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Feb 2014 14:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It appears this site doesn&#039;t believe in freedom unless they define it.  I posted an intelligent comment here a hour ago and it is gone.  The Republicans will never receive my vote.  I will vote Constitutionalist from now on.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It appears this site doesn&#8217;t believe in freedom unless they define it.  I posted an intelligent comment here a hour ago and it is gone.  The Republicans will never receive my vote.  I will vote Constitutionalist from now on.</p>
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		<title>By: Philip LaFrance</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/david-horowitz/uniting-the-right/comment-page-1/#comment-5371055</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Philip LaFrance]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Feb 2014 14:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is my first time posting on this site,  I have read Mr. Horowitz&#039;s book on leaving the Left.  I am not anti-Israel, did not vote for Obama nor do I support the ACA and am very suspicious of his use of EO.  So please keep the name calling to a minimum.  The Republicans claim to have a diversity of opinions on a far ranging number of policies yet, cannot come together when an election rolls around.  Why is this?  I have not voted for a Republican since the first election of GW Bush.  Your readers may scoff but Bush lied, plain and simple regarding Iraq.  The removal of Hussein has done nothing to stabilize the region.  Next,  9/11 was used by Republicans to write the Patriot Act, a blatant violation of the Constitution.  They use the old adage of safety and security over freedom.  I choose freedom.  In addition they agreed with the Democrats in adding more illegal rules to the NDAA using the same old nonsense about safety over freedom, again I choose Freedom.  When it comes to immigration there is nothing but cacophony,  Why would we grant amnesty to millions of illegals when our economy is in such disarray.  Sen. McCain is the loudest mouth on this subject.  He must go, NOW!  If amnesty for illegals is being done for the corporate elite then the Republicans will continue to lose support from Libertarians and people like me.  I am for immigration but, in an orderly legal manner.  Another matter that disturbs many Americans is the militarization of our local police departments.  Stop this NOW!  We as Americans are not the enemy.  Trade agreements like NAFTA, GATT and the TPP are bad for America and good for the developing and third world.  Cheap labor means higher profits for the large corporations and service jobs for Americans.  Stop this NOW!. Many Americans do not support these treaties.  The incessant meddling around the world in the name of fighting terrorism is a sham.  The toppling of Libya has created more chaos In central Africa.  The Dems may have started this in Libya but the Republicans went along with it.  The use of NGO&#039;s in Ukraine is another ignorant attempt to get closer and surround Russia so the US can control natural resources and force a McDonald&#039;s brand of Democracy on them.  Banging the drums of War against Iran is foolishness and only ignites or will reignite the hatred that the Iranians have for the US and it&#039;s support of the Shah&#039;s brutal rule.  It seems the Republicans want another tyrant in Iran but one that polishes the American shoes.  Israel is not the 51st state.  It is a modern nation capable of defending itself.  If the American citizen wishes to send money to Israel, fine.  The 4 billion sent to Israel by the US is acceptable but black budgets are unacceptable. Working with Israel and terrorists to overthrow Assad is filthy.  Assad has not threatened Israel or the region since 1967.  Didn&#039;t Assad help in the invasion of Iraq.  All the US and Israel is doing is creating more terrorists.  Americans are not for this(except the extreme fundies).  Domestically:  Stop calling the unemployed, those on SSDI, those who don&#039;t own homes, the lower classes, blacks, Hispanics and homosexuals names.  Stop trying to create a theocracy.  Stop telling us how to live and what morals your party will accept.  Gather together a Constitutional convention and abolish the 13th, 16th and 17rh amendments.  Abolish the fed, audit the fed, stop printing money, stop with the Keynesian economic bull shit.  Cease and desist the worship of money, materialism, power and war.  Respect Natural Law.  Return power back to the states.  Abolish the Department of Education.  Become a party of all Americans mot just those you deem worthy.  When you accomplish this maybe you&#039;ll get my vote and millions of others.  Thank You]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is my first time posting on this site,  I have read Mr. Horowitz&#8217;s book on leaving the Left.  I am not anti-Israel, did not vote for Obama nor do I support the ACA and am very suspicious of his use of EO.  So please keep the name calling to a minimum.  The Republicans claim to have a diversity of opinions on a far ranging number of policies yet, cannot come together when an election rolls around.  Why is this?  I have not voted for a Republican since the first election of GW Bush.  Your readers may scoff but Bush lied, plain and simple regarding Iraq.  The removal of Hussein has done nothing to stabilize the region.  Next,  9/11 was used by Republicans to write the Patriot Act, a blatant violation of the Constitution.  They use the old adage of safety and security over freedom.  I choose freedom.  In addition they agreed with the Democrats in adding more illegal rules to the NDAA using the same old nonsense about safety over freedom, again I choose Freedom.  When it comes to immigration there is nothing but cacophony,  Why would we grant amnesty to millions of illegals when our economy is in such disarray.  Sen. McCain is the loudest mouth on this subject.  He must go, NOW!  If amnesty for illegals is being done for the corporate elite then the Republicans will continue to lose support from Libertarians and people like me.  I am for immigration but, in an orderly legal manner.  Another matter that disturbs many Americans is the militarization of our local police departments.  Stop this NOW!  We as Americans are not the enemy.  Trade agreements like NAFTA, GATT and the TPP are bad for America and good for the developing and third world.  Cheap labor means higher profits for the large corporations and service jobs for Americans.  Stop this NOW!. Many Americans do not support these treaties.  The incessant meddling around the world in the name of fighting terrorism is a sham.  The toppling of Libya has created more chaos In central Africa.  The Dems may have started this in Libya but the Republicans went along with it.  The use of NGO&#8217;s in Ukraine is another ignorant attempt to get closer and surround Russia so the US can control natural resources and force a McDonald&#8217;s brand of Democracy on them.  Banging the drums of War against Iran is foolishness and only ignites or will reignite the hatred that the Iranians have for the US and it&#8217;s support of the Shah&#8217;s brutal rule.  It seems the Republicans want another tyrant in Iran but one that polishes the American shoes.  Israel is not the 51st state.  It is a modern nation capable of defending itself.  If the American citizen wishes to send money to Israel, fine.  The 4 billion sent to Israel by the US is acceptable but black budgets are unacceptable. Working with Israel and terrorists to overthrow Assad is filthy.  Assad has not threatened Israel or the region since 1967.  Didn&#8217;t Assad help in the invasion of Iraq.  All the US and Israel is doing is creating more terrorists.  Americans are not for this(except the extreme fundies).  Domestically:  Stop calling the unemployed, those on SSDI, those who don&#8217;t own homes, the lower classes, blacks, Hispanics and homosexuals names.  Stop trying to create a theocracy.  Stop telling us how to live and what morals your party will accept.  Gather together a Constitutional convention and abolish the 13th, 16th and 17rh amendments.  Abolish the fed, audit the fed, stop printing money, stop with the Keynesian economic bull shit.  Cease and desist the worship of money, materialism, power and war.  Respect Natural Law.  Return power back to the states.  Abolish the Department of Education.  Become a party of all Americans mot just those you deem worthy.  When you accomplish this maybe you&#8217;ll get my vote and millions of others.  Thank You</p>
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		<title>By: Texas Patriot</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/david-horowitz/uniting-the-right/comment-page-1/#comment-5322120</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Texas Patriot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Dec 2013 02:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[CC:  &quot;Barry Goldwater is one reason why the GOP is bad on illegal immigration. Goldwater thought that business people could hire illegal immigrants, so business people were punished for hiring than the past 30 years, then they would have been a lot less. The limited government without Milton Friedman&#039;s warning on immigration is what has been wrong with the GOP from Reagan to the present.”


I’m really not sure I understand your points, and frankly, I’ve never heard that Barry Goldwater was anti-immigration.  In the first place, illegal immigration was a lot smaller problem when Barry Goldwater was running for president fifty years ago than it is today.  I don’t know what the numbers were back then, but today supposedly we have over twelve million illegal immigrants from Mexico and other South American countries.  


Above all things, Barry Goldwater was a pragmatist and a patriot and he was a man of fairness and human decency.  My take is that he would be highly in favor of granting a limited amnesty to immigrants who wanted to work hard and make a great contribution to the American Dream, and I think that probably includes most Hispanics in America today.


Could you possibly elaborate on your ideas a bit, especially the ones about business people being punished and Milton Friedman thought about it all.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CC:  &#8220;Barry Goldwater is one reason why the GOP is bad on illegal immigration. Goldwater thought that business people could hire illegal immigrants, so business people were punished for hiring than the past 30 years, then they would have been a lot less. The limited government without Milton Friedman&#8217;s warning on immigration is what has been wrong with the GOP from Reagan to the present.”</p>
<p>I’m really not sure I understand your points, and frankly, I’ve never heard that Barry Goldwater was anti-immigration.  In the first place, illegal immigration was a lot smaller problem when Barry Goldwater was running for president fifty years ago than it is today.  I don’t know what the numbers were back then, but today supposedly we have over twelve million illegal immigrants from Mexico and other South American countries.  </p>
<p>Above all things, Barry Goldwater was a pragmatist and a patriot and he was a man of fairness and human decency.  My take is that he would be highly in favor of granting a limited amnesty to immigrants who wanted to work hard and make a great contribution to the American Dream, and I think that probably includes most Hispanics in America today.</p>
<p>Could you possibly elaborate on your ideas a bit, especially the ones about business people being punished and Milton Friedman thought about it all.</p>
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		<title>By: cynthia curran</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/david-horowitz/uniting-the-right/comment-page-1/#comment-5322096</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cynthia curran]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Dec 2013 01:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t care if people are God fearing, Heather McDonald an atheists and conservative has more common sens than a lot of evangelical Republicans on immigration and even on crime. I will take McDonald on some of the issues than Tony Perkins. The Republican Party has play too much with Religion for example is Mark Levin a Christian, no he is Jewish. Is Heather McDonald a christian no she is a non-believer. We need to get rid of Republicans all have to be Christians here. Christianity is different than politics.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t care if people are God fearing, Heather McDonald an atheists and conservative has more common sens than a lot of evangelical Republicans on immigration and even on crime. I will take McDonald on some of the issues than Tony Perkins. The Republican Party has play too much with Religion for example is Mark Levin a Christian, no he is Jewish. Is Heather McDonald a christian no she is a non-believer. We need to get rid of Republicans all have to be Christians here. Christianity is different than politics.</p>
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		<title>By: cynthia curran</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cynthia curran]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Dec 2013 01:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Barry Goldwater is one reason why the GOP is bad on illegal immigration. Goldwater thought that business people could hire illegal immigrants, so business people were punished for hiring than the past 30 years, then they would have been a lot less. The limited government without Milton Friedman&#039;s warning on immigration is what has been wrong with the GOP from Reagan to the present.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barry Goldwater is one reason why the GOP is bad on illegal immigration. Goldwater thought that business people could hire illegal immigrants, so business people were punished for hiring than the past 30 years, then they would have been a lot less. The limited government without Milton Friedman&#8217;s warning on immigration is what has been wrong with the GOP from Reagan to the present.</p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[objectivefactsmatter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Nov 2013 10:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Reasonable states have parties from both sides and produce governments that fluctuate between the two.&quot;

The problem is not &quot;any left&quot; it&#039;s the Marxist Utopian left. I guess the whole discussion is over your head.

&quot;There isn&#039;t another Western country that has such an appalling society as the US.&quot;

I really? I guess we need Marx after all. OK Mr. Psycho. How about you design the perfect society and then rank performance as your programs kick in?

&quot;We have six times the number (per capita) of prison inmates compared to most- dreadful! They don&#039;t have the grime, they don&#039;t have the social disparity- they have far better social mobility. The US is a dump!&quot;



If you paid attention you would understand why the left is to blame for some of those soaring statistics. The USA has been a target of leeches and aggressive enemies for many decades. That&#039;s what happens when you&#039;re number 1 in so many realms.


It&#039;s ironic how much of the modern world is dependent on &quot;a dump.&quot; As the idiot types his screed on the Internet...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Reasonable states have parties from both sides and produce governments that fluctuate between the two.&#8221;</p>
<p>The problem is not &#8220;any left&#8221; it&#8217;s the Marxist Utopian left. I guess the whole discussion is over your head.</p>
<p>&#8220;There isn&#8217;t another Western country that has such an appalling society as the US.&#8221;</p>
<p>I really? I guess we need Marx after all. OK Mr. Psycho. How about you design the perfect society and then rank performance as your programs kick in?</p>
<p>&#8220;We have six times the number (per capita) of prison inmates compared to most- dreadful! They don&#8217;t have the grime, they don&#8217;t have the social disparity- they have far better social mobility. The US is a dump!&#8221;</p>
<p>If you paid attention you would understand why the left is to blame for some of those soaring statistics. The USA has been a target of leeches and aggressive enemies for many decades. That&#8217;s what happens when you&#8217;re number 1 in so many realms.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s ironic how much of the modern world is dependent on &#8220;a dump.&#8221; As the idiot types his screed on the Internet&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: mrpoohead</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mrpoohead]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Nov 2013 09:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hysterical. Why are you so scared of anyone who is slightly left. Pathetic! Reasonable states have parties from both sides and produce governments that fluctuate between the two. There isn&#039;t another Western country that has such an appalling society as the US. We have six times the number (per capita) of prison inmates compared to most- dreadful! They don&#039;t have the grime, they don&#039;t have the social disparity- they have far better social mobility. The US is a dump!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hysterical. Why are you so scared of anyone who is slightly left. Pathetic! Reasonable states have parties from both sides and produce governments that fluctuate between the two. There isn&#8217;t another Western country that has such an appalling society as the US. We have six times the number (per capita) of prison inmates compared to most- dreadful! They don&#8217;t have the grime, they don&#8217;t have the social disparity- they have far better social mobility. The US is a dump!</p>
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		<title>By: wildjew</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/david-horowitz/uniting-the-right/comment-page-1/#comment-5309457</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wildjew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Nov 2013 11:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, it has been my personal experience that Catholics believe they have moral obligations on this earth.  Whether you are pro-life or pro-choice on abortion, at our local abortion mill (&quot;clinic&quot;) you will see Catholics doing the sidewalk counseling. But for my Catholic neighbors, abortion is the dominant issue, not national security or foreign policy; not the global jihad against the West. 


If Rand wrote, &quot;justice and life in the here and now is ignored&quot; by many Christians, that has been my experience.  Everything that is happening to this nation presently &quot;is God&#039;s will; there isn&#039;t anything much a Christian believer can do about it.&quot;  This is antithetical to what was taught by Moses and other ancient prophets.  It is a bankrupt doctrine.  I don&#039;t see how Christians can reconcile the writer of the most of the epistles (Paul?) with the writings of Moses.


A Christian whose only source of morality and ethics is rooted in the Christian bible isn&#039;t much help to me or  those like me.  I don&#039;t love my enemies.  I am NOT praying for Barack Obama.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, it has been my personal experience that Catholics believe they have moral obligations on this earth.  Whether you are pro-life or pro-choice on abortion, at our local abortion mill (&#8220;clinic&#8221;) you will see Catholics doing the sidewalk counseling. But for my Catholic neighbors, abortion is the dominant issue, not national security or foreign policy; not the global jihad against the West. </p>
<p>If Rand wrote, &#8220;justice and life in the here and now is ignored&#8221; by many Christians, that has been my experience.  Everything that is happening to this nation presently &#8220;is God&#8217;s will; there isn&#8217;t anything much a Christian believer can do about it.&#8221;  This is antithetical to what was taught by Moses and other ancient prophets.  It is a bankrupt doctrine.  I don&#8217;t see how Christians can reconcile the writer of the most of the epistles (Paul?) with the writings of Moses.</p>
<p>A Christian whose only source of morality and ethics is rooted in the Christian bible isn&#8217;t much help to me or  those like me.  I don&#8217;t love my enemies.  I am NOT praying for Barack Obama.</p>
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		<title>By: ADM64</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ADM64]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Nov 2013 06:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t let the title of &quot;The Virtue of Selfishness&quot; stop you from considering it.  Although meant to be provocative, it does state Rand&#039;s theory of ethics (including her view of why man needs ethics) along with her politics in a clear way.  She provides her reasons; you can evaluate them.  
Are there areas of her writings that were intended as self-justification or that appear such now that we know about some of her behavior?  Yes, in my opinion.  However, to adequately distinguish between those things and the areas of her philosophy that deserve an objective consideration, you have to read them.
Regarding Christian charity, Rand was talking about the theory not necessarily the practice.  That said, Christians (and for that matter Jews) do actually contribute more to charity than most secularists and atheists.
Your point about many Christians taking a deterministic stand and that the afterlife matters more is I think both true and perceptive.  One criticism of Christianity that Rand made was precisely this:  if God controls all, human action is not critical and if the afterlife is to be better and belief is enough for salvation, justice and life in the here and now can be ignored.  Thus, the believer excuses him/herself from taking action and responsibility now while congratulating him/herself on his/her virtue.  However, not all Christian teaching holds that only believing Christians will be saved and in Catholicism anyway, one is not supposed to waste this life.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t let the title of &#8220;The Virtue of Selfishness&#8221; stop you from considering it.  Although meant to be provocative, it does state Rand&#8217;s theory of ethics (including her view of why man needs ethics) along with her politics in a clear way.  She provides her reasons; you can evaluate them.<br />
Are there areas of her writings that were intended as self-justification or that appear such now that we know about some of her behavior?  Yes, in my opinion.  However, to adequately distinguish between those things and the areas of her philosophy that deserve an objective consideration, you have to read them.<br />
Regarding Christian charity, Rand was talking about the theory not necessarily the practice.  That said, Christians (and for that matter Jews) do actually contribute more to charity than most secularists and atheists.<br />
Your point about many Christians taking a deterministic stand and that the afterlife matters more is I think both true and perceptive.  One criticism of Christianity that Rand made was precisely this:  if God controls all, human action is not critical and if the afterlife is to be better and belief is enough for salvation, justice and life in the here and now can be ignored.  Thus, the believer excuses him/herself from taking action and responsibility now while congratulating him/herself on his/her virtue.  However, not all Christian teaching holds that only believing Christians will be saved and in Catholicism anyway, one is not supposed to waste this life.</p>
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		<title>By: wildjew</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/david-horowitz/uniting-the-right/comment-page-1/#comment-5308990</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wildjew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Nov 2013 14:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have &quot;Capitalism the Unknown Ideal&quot; in my &quot;Cart&quot; at Audible.com.  I listen to books on audio.  I see in the forward the author recommends reading &quot;The Virtue of Selfishness&quot; before reading &quot;Capitalism.&quot;  I&#039;m not sure I want to waste my time reading &quot;The Virtue of Selfishness&quot; since it is probably a self-justification for Rand&#039;s own selfish and destructive behavior.  

I must say something also about her theory of Christian &quot;selfless charity.&quot;  I don&#039;t know how many devout Christians you speak to.  I have discussed Christian doctrine and the Christian worldview with many believers.  I do not see this selflessness in Christianity. When I discuss the degenerating situation we find ourselves currently here in the United States, more often than not what I get are the following:

1)  a determinist point of view.  Namely, &quot;all events that happen are pre-ordained, or predestined to happen by the deity.&quot;   It is God&#039;s will; implying there really isn&#039;t anything we can do about it.

2)  the all-important doctrine that believers are saved by grace (non-believers are destined to eternal torment), so what happens in this world is not all that important by comparison.


Where is the selflessness?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have &#8220;Capitalism the Unknown Ideal&#8221; in my &#8220;Cart&#8221; at Audible.com.  I listen to books on audio.  I see in the forward the author recommends reading &#8220;The Virtue of Selfishness&#8221; before reading &#8220;Capitalism.&#8221;  I&#8217;m not sure I want to waste my time reading &#8220;The Virtue of Selfishness&#8221; since it is probably a self-justification for Rand&#8217;s own selfish and destructive behavior.  </p>
<p>I must say something also about her theory of Christian &#8220;selfless charity.&#8221;  I don&#8217;t know how many devout Christians you speak to.  I have discussed Christian doctrine and the Christian worldview with many believers.  I do not see this selflessness in Christianity. When I discuss the degenerating situation we find ourselves currently here in the United States, more often than not what I get are the following:</p>
<p>1)  a determinist point of view.  Namely, &#8220;all events that happen are pre-ordained, or predestined to happen by the deity.&#8221;   It is God&#8217;s will; implying there really isn&#8217;t anything we can do about it.</p>
<p>2)  the all-important doctrine that believers are saved by grace (non-believers are destined to eternal torment), so what happens in this world is not all that important by comparison.</p>
<p>Where is the selflessness?</p>
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		<title>By: wildjew</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wildjew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Nov 2013 11:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OK. I retract my charge.  It is unfortunate he uses Khomeini as any kind of a model. He is right when he said, &quot;it was G~d who created man, and that one has to obey G~d’s law,&quot; but the man should know, Khomeini did not worship God (YWHW).  Kohmeini and those like him worship a monster.   That is why I am not a follower of the late rabbi.  In part because of these silly analogies that undermine his argument. Saying true Judaism has more in common with Khomeini than it has in common with Thomas Jefferson would be akin to saying Judaism has more in common with Adolf Hitler than Thomas Jefferson.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK. I retract my charge.  It is unfortunate he uses Khomeini as any kind of a model. He is right when he said, &#8220;it was G~d who created man, and that one has to obey G~d’s law,&#8221; but the man should know, Khomeini did not worship God (YWHW).  Kohmeini and those like him worship a monster.   That is why I am not a follower of the late rabbi.  In part because of these silly analogies that undermine his argument. Saying true Judaism has more in common with Khomeini than it has in common with Thomas Jefferson would be akin to saying Judaism has more in common with Adolf Hitler than Thomas Jefferson.</p>
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		<title>By: puciferaneous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[puciferaneous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Nov 2013 01:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://rabbikahane.wordpress.com/2010/08/25/rabbi-kahane-interview-with-raphael-mergui-and-philippe-simonnot/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://rabbikahane.wordpress.com/2010/08/25/rabbi-kahane-interview-with-raphael-mergui-and-philippe-simonnot/" rel="nofollow">http://rabbikahane.wordpress.com/2010/08/25/rabbi-kahane-interview-with-raphael-mergui-and-philippe-simonnot/</a></p>
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		<title>By: wildjew</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wildjew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Nov 2013 00:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You look to be a pathological liar like Barack Obama.  Do you have any good or solid source to confirm this quote was said or written by the late rabbi?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You look to be a pathological liar like Barack Obama.  Do you have any good or solid source to confirm this quote was said or written by the late rabbi?</p>
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		<title>By: puciferaneous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[puciferaneous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Nov 2013 00:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;True Judaism has more in common with Khomeini and Islam than it has in common with Thomas Jefferson, Jean-Jacques Rousseau, or Adam Smith&quot; - Rabbi Meir Kahane]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;True Judaism has more in common with Khomeini and Islam than it has in common with Thomas Jefferson, Jean-Jacques Rousseau, or Adam Smith&#8221; &#8211; Rabbi Meir Kahane</p>
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		<title>By: dennis x</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dennis x]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Nov 2013 21:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Being a jew I know you have problems with Islam but the X is just a handle. But thank you for proving my point ie teabaggers are low IQ, racist, meth cooking ,trailer park living, inbred low life scum like yourself.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being a jew I know you have problems with Islam but the X is just a handle. But thank you for proving my point ie teabaggers are low IQ, racist, meth cooking ,trailer park living, inbred low life scum like yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: iluvisrael</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/david-horowitz/uniting-the-right/comment-page-1/#comment-5307019</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[iluvisrael]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Nov 2013 18:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Any dimwit with &#039;x&#039; as a last name is a low IQ islamobum who follows a pedophile.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any dimwit with &#8216;x&#8217; as a last name is a low IQ islamobum who follows a pedophile.</p>
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		<title>By: kikorikid</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/david-horowitz/uniting-the-right/comment-page-1/#comment-5306923</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kikorikid]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Nov 2013 17:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And you sure don&#039;t know who I &quot;serve&quot; swami!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And you sure don&#8217;t know who I &#8220;serve&#8221; swami!</p>
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		<title>By: DENNIS X</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/david-horowitz/uniting-the-right/comment-page-1/#comment-5306885</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DENNIS X]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Nov 2013 17:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So much anger and so little gray matter. Congrads I hear you and your cousin are expecting AGAIN!!!!!!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So much anger and so little gray matter. Congrads I hear you and your cousin are expecting AGAIN!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: kikorikid</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/david-horowitz/uniting-the-right/comment-page-1/#comment-5306806</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kikorikid]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Nov 2013 16:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You had me fooled.  I think what has happened
is that , after dealing with taqiyya spewing Islamist I have become overly cynical.
     General Grants favorite Aide-de-Camp was a
Seargent who wrote everything for the general. Majors
and Captains were puzzled but could not do better.
Finally several officers asked him how he was able to write
so well?  He replied,&quot;Read and Read,and Read, then
you can write.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You had me fooled.  I think what has happened<br />
is that , after dealing with taqiyya spewing Islamist I have become overly cynical.<br />
     General Grants favorite Aide-de-Camp was a<br />
Seargent who wrote everything for the general. Majors<br />
and Captains were puzzled but could not do better.<br />
Finally several officers asked him how he was able to write<br />
so well?  He replied,&#8221;Read and Read,and Read, then<br />
you can write.</p>
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		<title>By: ADM64</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ADM64]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Nov 2013 15:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Her magnum opus is &quot;Atlas Shrugged&quot; but as it is a novel interspersed with her philosophy (delivered as character speeches), it might be a bit of a slog (it is a long book).  &quot;The Virtue of Selfishness&quot; and &quot;Capitalism the Unknown Ideal&quot; are two much shorter, non-fiction collections of her essays that present her overall views on ethics and politics.  &quot;Objectivism:  the Philosophy of Ayn Rand&quot; by her &quot;heir&quot; Leonard Peikoff is the most comprehensive summary of her entire philosophy.  It is medium length but covers all the topics.

Rand did explicitlly condemn the notion of selfless sacrifice.  She did not condemn charity but saw it as a minor or secondary virtue rather than a primary one (in Christian thought, charity is one of the cardinal virtues).  Selfless sacrifice and selflessness were the terms she explicitly used.  It should be noted, though, that she specifically defined sacrifice as &quot;the surrender of a greater value for a lesser one.&quot;  Many common examples of sacrifice (e.g. a parent doing without something to provide for a child) would not fall into this category.  Rand believed that altruism (and indeed Christianity) specifically required a sacrifice to mean giving up something one valued more in favor of something one valued less, and thus that the ethics of altruism had also corrupted language.  Similarly, self-interest and selfish to her meant &quot;actually in one&#039;s interest without contradiction&quot; thus self-indulgent behavior like using drugs or behavior intended to benefit oneself but that didn&#039;t (like crime) didn&#039;t count, although in the ordinary usage of the language both would be seen as selfish.

I would agree with you that Christianity is more in line with selfless sacrifice than Judaism, and that the Mosaic principle of loving one&#039;s neighbor as oneself allows for self-interest.  I would say that the Golden Rule (do unto others) is a principle of justice and not incompatible.  Christians generally hold that the Old Testament applies as well as the New, so there is not much of a conflict.  I would agree with you that neither faith necessarily need be interpreted as to forbid self-interest properly understood.  Rand - and to a greater extent some of her followers - tended to see what they wanted when assessing religion.  With respect to Judaism, the issue would probably have been the notion of God commanding sacrifices in certain instances, as the story of Abraham and his son illustrate (ignored is the mercy that was part of the story).

Regarding the commandments, one can generally justify most of them in terms of reason; even the ones specifically about God could be justified rationally if one sees God as meaning nature/existence independent of man&#039;s will.  Rand would have argued that truth and reason not revelation had to be the basis for any moral laws, not that everything in the Bible was automatically wrong.   Regarding faith more generally, the issue is that it is different from reason and should be regarded as such.  The natural law tradition in the Catholicism does make that distinction.

Rand&#039;s atheism sprung from what she saw as the central contradiction in a First Cause/Prime Mover argument namely that there was no logical reason for the First Cause not to have a cause, and so forth.  She said that &quot;existence exists&quot; and therefore is independent of anyone&#039;s will or consciousness, secular or divine.  Even if one were to admit of a God as First Cause, he would still have existed and thus there was always something rather than nothing.  In terms of logic, her argument is fine.  She would have addressed your comment in terms of, &quot;In the absence of evidence to the contrary, and in considering the contradictions, I conclude there is no God.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Her magnum opus is &#8220;Atlas Shrugged&#8221; but as it is a novel interspersed with her philosophy (delivered as character speeches), it might be a bit of a slog (it is a long book).  &#8220;The Virtue of Selfishness&#8221; and &#8220;Capitalism the Unknown Ideal&#8221; are two much shorter, non-fiction collections of her essays that present her overall views on ethics and politics.  &#8220;Objectivism:  the Philosophy of Ayn Rand&#8221; by her &#8220;heir&#8221; Leonard Peikoff is the most comprehensive summary of her entire philosophy.  It is medium length but covers all the topics.</p>
<p>Rand did explicitlly condemn the notion of selfless sacrifice.  She did not condemn charity but saw it as a minor or secondary virtue rather than a primary one (in Christian thought, charity is one of the cardinal virtues).  Selfless sacrifice and selflessness were the terms she explicitly used.  It should be noted, though, that she specifically defined sacrifice as &#8220;the surrender of a greater value for a lesser one.&#8221;  Many common examples of sacrifice (e.g. a parent doing without something to provide for a child) would not fall into this category.  Rand believed that altruism (and indeed Christianity) specifically required a sacrifice to mean giving up something one valued more in favor of something one valued less, and thus that the ethics of altruism had also corrupted language.  Similarly, self-interest and selfish to her meant &#8220;actually in one&#8217;s interest without contradiction&#8221; thus self-indulgent behavior like using drugs or behavior intended to benefit oneself but that didn&#8217;t (like crime) didn&#8217;t count, although in the ordinary usage of the language both would be seen as selfish.</p>
<p>I would agree with you that Christianity is more in line with selfless sacrifice than Judaism, and that the Mosaic principle of loving one&#8217;s neighbor as oneself allows for self-interest.  I would say that the Golden Rule (do unto others) is a principle of justice and not incompatible.  Christians generally hold that the Old Testament applies as well as the New, so there is not much of a conflict.  I would agree with you that neither faith necessarily need be interpreted as to forbid self-interest properly understood.  Rand &#8211; and to a greater extent some of her followers &#8211; tended to see what they wanted when assessing religion.  With respect to Judaism, the issue would probably have been the notion of God commanding sacrifices in certain instances, as the story of Abraham and his son illustrate (ignored is the mercy that was part of the story).</p>
<p>Regarding the commandments, one can generally justify most of them in terms of reason; even the ones specifically about God could be justified rationally if one sees God as meaning nature/existence independent of man&#8217;s will.  Rand would have argued that truth and reason not revelation had to be the basis for any moral laws, not that everything in the Bible was automatically wrong.   Regarding faith more generally, the issue is that it is different from reason and should be regarded as such.  The natural law tradition in the Catholicism does make that distinction.</p>
<p>Rand&#8217;s atheism sprung from what she saw as the central contradiction in a First Cause/Prime Mover argument namely that there was no logical reason for the First Cause not to have a cause, and so forth.  She said that &#8220;existence exists&#8221; and therefore is independent of anyone&#8217;s will or consciousness, secular or divine.  Even if one were to admit of a God as First Cause, he would still have existed and thus there was always something rather than nothing.  In terms of logic, her argument is fine.  She would have addressed your comment in terms of, &#8220;In the absence of evidence to the contrary, and in considering the contradictions, I conclude there is no God.&#8221;</p>
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