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		<title>By: An admirer of David Solway</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[An admirer of David Solway]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jun 2013 22:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The message is blunt, but it needs to be.  Time is running out for the West.  It&#039;s time for Muslims who live by Western values to demand reform and reject the violence and jihad prescribed in the texts and actually practiced by the prophet.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The message is blunt, but it needs to be.  Time is running out for the West.  It&#8217;s time for Muslims who live by Western values to demand reform and reject the violence and jihad prescribed in the texts and actually practiced by the prophet.</p>
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		<title>By: chimbot</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chimbot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jun 2013 23:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Aren&#039;t you perhaps naive in thinking that the West wouldn&#039;t like to see Islam disappear forever gently into the night?  The best in the West don&#039;t don&#039;t refer to it as a war because it&#039;s being fought with unconventional weapons: culture, in particular, the Internet.  But make no mistake about it, the West, in its own fashion, is doing its best to destabiiize Islam just as Islam is doing its best to destabilize the West, resulting in an almost sublime symmetry -- at least for the time being.  But we all know who is winning the war?  The Arab spring is simply the first of a sequence of historical events that foreshadows Islam&#039;s gradual demise or assimilation into the western ethos.  A hundred years ago, how many Muslims were wearing baseball caps? ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aren&#039;t you perhaps naive in thinking that the West wouldn&#039;t like to see Islam disappear forever gently into the night?  The best in the West don&#039;t don&#039;t refer to it as a war because it&#039;s being fought with unconventional weapons: culture, in particular, the Internet.  But make no mistake about it, the West, in its own fashion, is doing its best to destabiiize Islam just as Islam is doing its best to destabilize the West, resulting in an almost sublime symmetry &#8212; at least for the time being.  But we all know who is winning the war?  The Arab spring is simply the first of a sequence of historical events that foreshadows Islam&#039;s gradual demise or assimilation into the western ethos.  A hundred years ago, how many Muslims were wearing baseball caps? </p>
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		<title>By: SuicidePrevention</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SuicidePrevention]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jun 2013 22:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Instead of merely targeting Islam as the singular enemy, I would suggest elevating positive principles. 
For example, separation of church and state and the right to free speech. Of course Islam is incompatible with these principles (and is perhaps incapable of reform), but so was Christendom in the past. 
I would rather march into battle under a loftier flag, that would constrain all religious movements, although obviously the threat to free society now comes from just one direction. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Instead of merely targeting Islam as the singular enemy, I would suggest elevating positive principles.<br />
For example, separation of church and state and the right to free speech. Of course Islam is incompatible with these principles (and is perhaps incapable of reform), but so was Christendom in the past.<br />
I would rather march into battle under a loftier flag, that would constrain all religious movements, although obviously the threat to free society now comes from just one direction. </p>
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		<title>By: Michael Petek</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Petek]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jun 2013 20:58:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not only their silence. Anyone who invokes the name of God in aid of an evil act - such as the murder of Lee Rigby in London last month - is guilty of blasphemy. They are also guilty of neglect of the Divine Name who fail to curse the blasphemer. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not only their silence. Anyone who invokes the name of God in aid of an evil act &#8211; such as the murder of Lee Rigby in London last month &#8211; is guilty of blasphemy. They are also guilty of neglect of the Divine Name who fail to curse the blasphemer. </p>
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		<title>By: Larry Riteman</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Larry Riteman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jun 2013 20:13:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The liberals and progressives totally ignore that Islam is a mortal threat to the Western values and the notion of equality before the law which in no way is dispensed with by the fact that there are so few &#8220;radicals&#8221;. Ipso, Islam supports the radicals and, facto, the Moslems support Islam.  Ergo, Moslems do indeed support the radicals.  The silence of the so called &quot;moderate Muslims&quot; speaks volumes.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The liberals and progressives totally ignore that Islam is a mortal threat to the Western values and the notion of equality before the law which in no way is dispensed with by the fact that there are so few &ldquo;radicals&rdquo;. Ipso, Islam supports the radicals and, facto, the Moslems support Islam.  Ergo, Moslems do indeed support the radicals.  The silence of the so called &quot;moderate Muslims&quot; speaks volumes.  </p>
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		<title>By: Yativ</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Yativ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jun 2013 19:21:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brilliant article ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brilliant article </p>
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		<title>By: LiveFreeOrDie</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LiveFreeOrDie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jun 2013 18:26:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think of it as the West (&quot;us&quot;) being &quot;at war&quot; with Islam.  It is merely the relentless spread of letting people be free to choose.   Of course, the religious fundamentalists will view it as &quot;war&quot; (cf. the &quot;war on Christmas&quot;, etc.).  Remember how much blood was shed between Christians to get where we are today! 
 
Currently, I agree with Solway that moderates are part of the problem, but eventually (the time factor again), it won&#039;t matter a bit what Muslims *nominally* believe, as long as they don&#039;t act on it, just like it doesn&#039;t matter that most Christians don&#039;t take seriously many NT verses (e.g. if any man not work, let him not eat, etc.).   In fact, that would be the best way, because it allows Muslims to save face and to never have to explicitly reject their scriptures and admit that it was flawed. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#039;t think of it as the West (&quot;us&quot;) being &quot;at war&quot; with Islam.  It is merely the relentless spread of letting people be free to choose.   Of course, the religious fundamentalists will view it as &quot;war&quot; (cf. the &quot;war on Christmas&quot;, etc.).  Remember how much blood was shed between Christians to get where we are today! </p>
<p>Currently, I agree with Solway that moderates are part of the problem, but eventually (the time factor again), it won&#039;t matter a bit what Muslims *nominally* believe, as long as they don&#039;t act on it, just like it doesn&#039;t matter that most Christians don&#039;t take seriously many NT verses (e.g. if any man not work, let him not eat, etc.).   In fact, that would be the best way, because it allows Muslims to save face and to never have to explicitly reject their scriptures and admit that it was flawed. </p>
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		<title>By: determined1215</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[determined1215]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jun 2013 17:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have been anxiously waiting for the Church of Rome to offer substantive theological guidance to Catholics about the fundamental issue of the existence and nature of &#039;moderate Islam&#039; having abandoned hope that any western political or cultural institution, other than Mr. Solway and his Frontpage colleagues, would define and  tackle the problem. Benedict XVI at Regensburg attempted to initiate this discussion but was immediately beaten back by worldwide Islamic organizations and fellow western travelers. John Paul II, while clearly stating the Koran completely reduces divine revelation and is not a religion of redemption, nevertheless indicated that the religiosity of Muslims deserves respect. All the while, the church touts endless ecumenical dialogue with Islam while its adherents cleanse Christians from the middle east, Africa and Asia. In the resulting  moral confusion about this pressing issue, I am left to conclude either that the church is woefully derelict in providing its flock with the spiritual education necessary for its safety and survival or it deeply understands and puts full trust in the historical workings of a higher power to guide it through an epoch of a rising and antogonistic Islam. I don&#039;t know the answer. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been anxiously waiting for the Church of Rome to offer substantive theological guidance to Catholics about the fundamental issue of the existence and nature of &#039;moderate Islam&#039; having abandoned hope that any western political or cultural institution, other than Mr. Solway and his Frontpage colleagues, would define and  tackle the problem. Benedict XVI at Regensburg attempted to initiate this discussion but was immediately beaten back by worldwide Islamic organizations and fellow western travelers. John Paul II, while clearly stating the Koran completely reduces divine revelation and is not a religion of redemption, nevertheless indicated that the religiosity of Muslims deserves respect. All the while, the church touts endless ecumenical dialogue with Islam while its adherents cleanse Christians from the middle east, Africa and Asia. In the resulting  moral confusion about this pressing issue, I am left to conclude either that the church is woefully derelict in providing its flock with the spiritual education necessary for its safety and survival or it deeply understands and puts full trust in the historical workings of a higher power to guide it through an epoch of a rising and antogonistic Islam. I don&#039;t know the answer. </p>
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		<title>By: chimbot</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/david-solway/the-immoderate-moderation-of-the-moderates/comment-page-1/#comment-5221665</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chimbot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jun 2013 17:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very keen point here.  It implies that the West is no less at war with Islam than Islam with the west -- a notion David Solway rejects.  The West is slowly conquering, undoing Islam with its culture, allowing Mulsins to choose youtube over Sharia;  happy hour over prayer hour.  Out of this group arises the Muslim moderate, which in point of fact is a transitional phase: he will either fall back on his religion or reject it entirely.  Solway correctly states there is not middle ground here.  My sense is that 80% of Muslims who are exposed to western culture eventually completely embrace at which point they are no longer moderates but westerners.  But Solway is correct when he states that the moderate (who is still sympathetic to Islam) provides the background and operational grid (the Koran, the Mosque, Islamic culture) without which the extremist would find himself in a vaccuum, without  purpose, a character in search of an author.    ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very keen point here.  It implies that the West is no less at war with Islam than Islam with the west &#8212; a notion David Solway rejects.  The West is slowly conquering, undoing Islam with its culture, allowing Mulsins to choose youtube over Sharia;  happy hour over prayer hour.  Out of this group arises the Muslim moderate, which in point of fact is a transitional phase: he will either fall back on his religion or reject it entirely.  Solway correctly states there is not middle ground here.  My sense is that 80% of Muslims who are exposed to western culture eventually completely embrace at which point they are no longer moderates but westerners.  But Solway is correct when he states that the moderate (who is still sympathetic to Islam) provides the background and operational grid (the Koran, the Mosque, Islamic culture) without which the extremist would find himself in a vaccuum, without  purpose, a character in search of an author.    </p>
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		<title>By: Richard Blake</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Blake]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jun 2013 16:23:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting article.  As an advocate for the persecuted church, I sought out &#039;moderate Muslims,&#039; as allies in that struggle. I felt that the martyrdom Salman Taseer in Pakistan and the public reaction to the Taliban&#039;s attack on a schoolgirl demonstrated that there were in fact, some moderates.  I emailed all of the (hopefully) moderate Muslims I could locate including at a local mosque here in Colorado.  I never received any response but the mosque was holding an open house on first of each month.  The first time I attended I was able to talk to and get much agreement from the Muslims holding the open house until the imam showed up in the last 20 minutes.  They are recording these conversations and I have asked for a copy of that tape, which they have agreed to provide.  The open houses are being encouraged by CAIR and aim to do two things for them, the first is to recruit new Muslims (indeed they do give it the hard sell) and the second is to provide credibility in the community.  Clearly the imam is in charge when he is around the others,  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting article.  As an advocate for the persecuted church, I sought out &#039;moderate Muslims,&#039; as allies in that struggle. I felt that the martyrdom Salman Taseer in Pakistan and the public reaction to the Taliban&#039;s attack on a schoolgirl demonstrated that there were in fact, some moderates.  I emailed all of the (hopefully) moderate Muslims I could locate including at a local mosque here in Colorado.  I never received any response but the mosque was holding an open house on first of each month.  The first time I attended I was able to talk to and get much agreement from the Muslims holding the open house until the imam showed up in the last 20 minutes.  They are recording these conversations and I have asked for a copy of that tape, which they have agreed to provide.  The open houses are being encouraged by CAIR and aim to do two things for them, the first is to recruit new Muslims (indeed they do give it the hard sell) and the second is to provide credibility in the community.  Clearly the imam is in charge when he is around the others,  </p>
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		<title>By: LiveFreeOrDie</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LiveFreeOrDie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jun 2013 13:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with the thrust of this article, but while admitting that &quot;time is short&quot;, it still seems to me that the West would be well-served by continuing to make as much of modern civilization available to the unwashed masses of whatever-stan.  When people really have a choice, they will begin to choose Youtube over Sharia.  This does not mean they will not have to face repercussions from the Imam&#039;s death squads, so it will not be easy.  But overall, the rise in standard of living has defeated strict religion everywhere it has occurred. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the thrust of this article, but while admitting that &quot;time is short&quot;, it still seems to me that the West would be well-served by continuing to make as much of modern civilization available to the unwashed masses of whatever-stan.  When people really have a choice, they will begin to choose Youtube over Sharia.  This does not mean they will not have to face repercussions from the Imam&#039;s death squads, so it will not be easy.  But overall, the rise in standard of living has defeated strict religion everywhere it has occurred. </p>
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		<title>By: ziontruth</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ziontruth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jun 2013 10:26:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;...we simply do not have the political leisure to wait another century or two for Islam to undergo a reformation and shed its imperial theology,...&quot; 
 
Even if we had the time, why do people think a century or two would be sufficient? With the appeasement of the jihad by governments all around (cracking down on old ladies&#039; &quot;Islamophobic&quot; Facebook posts sooner than blatant Islamic calls for terrorism), the incentive for a reinterpretation of the Koran&#039;s imperialistic passages is just about zero. 
 
The non-Muslim world is by and large like a person avoiding the pain of a little dental treatment in exchange for much greater pain in store for the inevitable root canal operation. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;&#8230;we simply do not have the political leisure to wait another century or two for Islam to undergo a reformation and shed its imperial theology,&#8230;&quot; </p>
<p>Even if we had the time, why do people think a century or two would be sufficient? With the appeasement of the jihad by governments all around (cracking down on old ladies&#039; &quot;Islamophobic&quot; Facebook posts sooner than blatant Islamic calls for terrorism), the incentive for a reinterpretation of the Koran&#039;s imperialistic passages is just about zero. </p>
<p>The non-Muslim world is by and large like a person avoiding the pain of a little dental treatment in exchange for much greater pain in store for the inevitable root canal operation. </p>
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		<title>By: Chezwick</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chezwick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jun 2013 09:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I heard a pundit on Fox castigating his fellow pundits for &quot;not having the moral courage to actually name the enemy, which is radical Islamism.&quot; 
 
Radical Islamism, get that???????  
 
Hiding behind a double-qualifier is moral courage?????? 
 
I was drifting off into sleep at the time, but it didn&#039;t prevent me from chuckling. 
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard a pundit on Fox castigating his fellow pundits for &quot;not having the moral courage to actually name the enemy, which is radical Islamism.&quot; </p>
<p>Radical Islamism, get that???????  </p>
<p>Hiding behind a double-qualifier is moral courage?????? </p>
<p>I was drifting off into sleep at the time, but it didn&#039;t prevent me from chuckling. </p>
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		<title>By: AdinaK</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AdinaK]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jun 2013 06:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[REPEAT after me...there is NO moderate Islam. NONE at all. While there are moderate Muslims, they are not in the majority and they are not considered full Muslims by those who hold sway. Herein lies its efficacy and blow back - &lt;a href=&quot;http://adinakutnicki.com/2012/07/13/islam-blood-a-groundbreaking-policy-paper-contained-herein-the-world-stands-on-a-precipice-commentary-by-adina-kutnicki-109/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://adinakutnicki.com/2012/07/13/islam-blood-a...&lt;/a&gt;   
   
And the poohbahs can insist, till the cows come home, that Islam is a &quot;religion of peace&quot; and the west must get on board. But those of us who know better must continue in the opposite direction, thus blaring the real truth. Islam IS a political/religious-mired death cult and that is that.   
   
Adina kutnicki, Israel &lt;a href=&quot;http://adinakutnicki.com/about/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://adinakutnicki.com/about/&lt;/a&gt; ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>REPEAT after me&#8230;there is NO moderate Islam. NONE at all. While there are moderate Muslims, they are not in the majority and they are not considered full Muslims by those who hold sway. Herein lies its efficacy and blow back &#8211; <a href="http://adinakutnicki.com/2012/07/13/islam-blood-a-groundbreaking-policy-paper-contained-herein-the-world-stands-on-a-precipice-commentary-by-adina-kutnicki-109/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://adinakutnicki.com/2012/07/13/islam-blood-a" rel="nofollow">http://adinakutnicki.com/2012/07/13/islam-blood-a</a>&#8230;   </p>
<p>And the poohbahs can insist, till the cows come home, that Islam is a &quot;religion of peace&quot; and the west must get on board. But those of us who know better must continue in the opposite direction, thus blaring the real truth. Islam IS a political/religious-mired death cult and that is that.   </p>
<p>Adina kutnicki, Israel <a href="http://adinakutnicki.com/about/" rel="nofollow">http://adinakutnicki.com/about/</a> </p>
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