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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2014 04:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Now you are speaking my language]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now you are speaking my language</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2014 04:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Amen to that!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen to that!!!</p>
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		<title>By: DilloTank</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DilloTank]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Sep 2013 00:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Indeed. The &#039;reformers&#039; are the problem.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed. The &#8216;reformers&#8217; are the problem.</p>
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		<title>By: seewithyourowneyes</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Aug 2013 09:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You are practicing Taqiyya, Charlie97.  When Mohammed, a formerly poor young man now married to a wealthy woman 15 years his senior, tried to start a new religion in Mecca, he found the Meccans hostile and unreceptive to his presumption.  It was only during this period that Mohammed advocated for tolerance - during the period that his own religion was weak and required tolerance.  After he&#039;d fled Mecca and gained followers in Medina, Mohammed began his bloody campaign of conversion by the sword, invading numerous neighboring villages, beheading the men who refused to convert, looting their possessions, and enslaving their women and children.  How does that square with &quot;no compulsion in religion?&quot;  You know very well the doctrine of abrogation -that, being the &quot;perfect man,&quot; Mohammed could only grow more perfect over time, never less.  You know that the earlier &quot;no compulsion&quot; verse was therefore abrogated by Mohammed&#039;s later words and deeds.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are practicing Taqiyya, Charlie97.  When Mohammed, a formerly poor young man now married to a wealthy woman 15 years his senior, tried to start a new religion in Mecca, he found the Meccans hostile and unreceptive to his presumption.  It was only during this period that Mohammed advocated for tolerance &#8211; during the period that his own religion was weak and required tolerance.  After he&#8217;d fled Mecca and gained followers in Medina, Mohammed began his bloody campaign of conversion by the sword, invading numerous neighboring villages, beheading the men who refused to convert, looting their possessions, and enslaving their women and children.  How does that square with &#8220;no compulsion in religion?&#8221;  You know very well the doctrine of abrogation -that, being the &#8220;perfect man,&#8221; Mohammed could only grow more perfect over time, never less.  You know that the earlier &#8220;no compulsion&#8221; verse was therefore abrogated by Mohammed&#8217;s later words and deeds.</p>
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		<title>By: TienBing</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TienBing]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jul 2013 12:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Muhammad “borrowed” heavily from the Hebrew bible as well as Christian belief and local Arab pagan belief and superstition. I’m sure if someone read it to him he would have loved Numbers. Be that as it may, in neither example is God giving a commandment for all time that as a matter of principle Jews should kill everyone that transgresses or doesn’t become a Jew. Context is important. Also note that although the Old Testament is considered sacred, the New Testament is the canon for Christians.

“Intellectual superiority” - read your post.

I understand the very, very simple and obvious concepts that form the core of Islamic belief and regulate the relationship of Islam and Muslims towards all non-Muslims - those who have not or will not submit.

Islam has no New Testament and cannot; Mohammad was the last prophet.

Obviously the view from Dar al-Harb is different from the view from Dar al-Islam. Abu Hanifa’s division of the world may no longer be in vogue with the latest emissaries and promotors of Islamic conquest, but he was fairly accurate.

It has been fun.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Muhammad “borrowed” heavily from the Hebrew bible as well as Christian belief and local Arab pagan belief and superstition. I’m sure if someone read it to him he would have loved Numbers. Be that as it may, in neither example is God giving a commandment for all time that as a matter of principle Jews should kill everyone that transgresses or doesn’t become a Jew. Context is important. Also note that although the Old Testament is considered sacred, the New Testament is the canon for Christians.</p>
<p>“Intellectual superiority” &#8211; read your post.</p>
<p>I understand the very, very simple and obvious concepts that form the core of Islamic belief and regulate the relationship of Islam and Muslims towards all non-Muslims &#8211; those who have not or will not submit.</p>
<p>Islam has no New Testament and cannot; Mohammad was the last prophet.</p>
<p>Obviously the view from Dar al-Harb is different from the view from Dar al-Islam. Abu Hanifa’s division of the world may no longer be in vogue with the latest emissaries and promotors of Islamic conquest, but he was fairly accurate.</p>
<p>It has been fun.</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie97</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Charlie97]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jul 2013 08:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, moral and intellectual rigour. I could also play the game of picking verses out of the Bible that are, lets us say, less than flattering, but I am aware that &#039;context&#039; is required in addition to simple &#039;text&#039;. Christians believe that their book is from God, no?

An example: Numbers 31, King James &quot;version&quot; of the Bible (http://bit.ly/167yXE1)

God to speaking to Moses.
[17] Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.
[18] But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.
[19] And do ye abide without the camp seven days: whosoever hath killed any person, and whosoever hath touched any slain, purify both yourselves and your captives on the third day, and on the seventh day.


The first 16 verses are no less violent. This is a command from God to Moses, who is the lawgiver to the Jewish people. This is in the Old Testament. The immutable word of God (Jesus?).


We can all play the same game. I&#039;m just not going to waste my time with you anymore.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, moral and intellectual rigour. I could also play the game of picking verses out of the Bible that are, lets us say, less than flattering, but I am aware that &#8216;context&#8217; is required in addition to simple &#8216;text&#8217;. Christians believe that their book is from God, no?</p>
<p>An example: Numbers 31, King James &#8220;version&#8221; of the Bible (<a href="http://bit.ly/167yXE1" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/167yXE1</a>)</p>
<p>God to speaking to Moses.<br />
[17] Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.<br />
[18] But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.<br />
[19] And do ye abide without the camp seven days: whosoever hath killed any person, and whosoever hath touched any slain, purify both yourselves and your captives on the third day, and on the seventh day.</p>
<p>The first 16 verses are no less violent. This is a command from God to Moses, who is the lawgiver to the Jewish people. This is in the Old Testament. The immutable word of God (Jesus?).</p>
<p>We can all play the same game. I&#8217;m just not going to waste my time with you anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: TienBing</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TienBing]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jul 2013 17:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not so. I stated that Muslims deny what their guidebook plainly says. I noted the contradictions and inconsistencies within and among claimed  sources of Islamic authority. The point is that the teachings and the word of Muslims can not be trusted.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not so. I stated that Muslims deny what their guidebook plainly says. I noted the contradictions and inconsistencies within and among claimed  sources of Islamic authority. The point is that the teachings and the word of Muslims can not be trusted.</p>
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		<title>By: TienBing</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TienBing]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jul 2013 17:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Moral and intellectual rigor? Please. I have neither seen nor read any evidence of either from any Muslim or Muslim apologist. What I have seen and read, are absurd statements and misrepresentations defended by risible claims of intellectual superiority.    

Your ilk share an arrogant confidence that you can dismiss challenges to your dishonesty with a sneer at the simplistic mind of those who aren&#039;t buffaloed by your duplicity.
How difficult is it to understand this:

9:33. It is He {Allah} Who has sent His Messenger (Muhammad) with guidance and the religion of truth (Islam), to make it superior over all religions even though the Mushrikun (polytheists, pagans, idolaters, disbelievers in the Oneness of Allah) hate (it).

Hmm... That is a very clear statement of moral principle.

How about this:

9:29. Fight against those who believe not in Allah, nor in the Last Day, nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth (i.e. Islam) among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.

Does that require intellectual vigor to interpret? Obviously anyone who takes a Muslim for their word is a simpilton.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Moral and intellectual rigor? Please. I have neither seen nor read any evidence of either from any Muslim or Muslim apologist. What I have seen and read, are absurd statements and misrepresentations defended by risible claims of intellectual superiority.    </p>
<p>Your ilk share an arrogant confidence that you can dismiss challenges to your dishonesty with a sneer at the simplistic mind of those who aren&#8217;t buffaloed by your duplicity.<br />
How difficult is it to understand this:</p>
<p>9:33. It is He {Allah} Who has sent His Messenger (Muhammad) with guidance and the religion of truth (Islam), to make it superior over all religions even though the Mushrikun (polytheists, pagans, idolaters, disbelievers in the Oneness of Allah) hate (it).</p>
<p>Hmm&#8230; That is a very clear statement of moral principle.</p>
<p>How about this:</p>
<p>9:29. Fight against those who believe not in Allah, nor in the Last Day, nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth (i.e. Islam) among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.</p>
<p>Does that require intellectual vigor to interpret? Obviously anyone who takes a Muslim for their word is a simpilton.</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie97</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Charlie97]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jul 2013 15:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Islamic/Muslim scholarship/legislature is highly sophisticated and one requires moral and intellectual rigour to interpret the texts in their ENTIRETY. You and your ilk share the same simplistic view of Islam as the Bin Ladens of this world, and you are both welcome to each other.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Islamic/Muslim scholarship/legislature is highly sophisticated and one requires moral and intellectual rigour to interpret the texts in their ENTIRETY. You and your ilk share the same simplistic view of Islam as the Bin Ladens of this world, and you are both welcome to each other.  </p>
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		<title>By: Hamza Hashem</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hamza Hashem]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jul 2013 15:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You claim to know what the true story is, yet you now complain you don&#039;t because we are changing the story? Either you know it or you don&#039;t. Your argument is silly, and addresses nothing I noted.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You claim to know what the true story is, yet you now complain you don&#8217;t because we are changing the story? Either you know it or you don&#8217;t. Your argument is silly, and addresses nothing I noted.</p>
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		<title>By: TienBing</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TienBing]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jul 2013 15:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Since Muslims deny what is actually said in their own guidebook, how do we know what the real story is? The Koran states very unequivocally how Muslims are supposed to deal with non-Muslims, yet Muslims tell us the Koran doesn&#039;t say those things. Muslims say the true interpretations meanings of the Koran are to be found in the Haddiths and sira. Yet they are both internally inconsistent and contradictory their statements, quotes and meaning as well as between each other.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since Muslims deny what is actually said in their own guidebook, how do we know what the real story is? The Koran states very unequivocally how Muslims are supposed to deal with non-Muslims, yet Muslims tell us the Koran doesn&#8217;t say those things. Muslims say the true interpretations meanings of the Koran are to be found in the Haddiths and sira. Yet they are both internally inconsistent and contradictory their statements, quotes and meaning as well as between each other.</p>
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		<title>By: TienBing</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TienBing]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jul 2013 15:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And the Muslim Chechens have brutalized their own as well as non-Muslims just as long. How far are you willing to go back to find out who was the original oppressor? The issue IS Islam.  The Muslims saw their chance after the soviet breakup to create a Muslim state. Not all Chechens are Muslim nor were Chechens always Muslim. Non-Muslim Chechens that survived the Muslim cleansing that followed the breakup of the USSR do not want Russia to abandon them to the &quot;mercy&quot; of the Muslim majority.
You project your own feelings of hate unto others. Nothing was twisted but your attempt to dodge my argument. Armageddon is used generically to mean a grande final battle that settles the issue definitively one way or an other with the complete destruction of the unworthy. Biblically (Revelations), it refers to the final destructive battle between good and evil that occurs before the return of the Messiah. False prophets will be exposed and banished.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the Muslim Chechens have brutalized their own as well as non-Muslims just as long. How far are you willing to go back to find out who was the original oppressor? The issue IS Islam.  The Muslims saw their chance after the soviet breakup to create a Muslim state. Not all Chechens are Muslim nor were Chechens always Muslim. Non-Muslim Chechens that survived the Muslim cleansing that followed the breakup of the USSR do not want Russia to abandon them to the &#8220;mercy&#8221; of the Muslim majority.<br />
You project your own feelings of hate unto others. Nothing was twisted but your attempt to dodge my argument. Armageddon is used generically to mean a grande final battle that settles the issue definitively one way or an other with the complete destruction of the unworthy. Biblically (Revelations), it refers to the final destructive battle between good and evil that occurs before the return of the Messiah. False prophets will be exposed and banished.</p>
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		<title>By: TienBing</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TienBing]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jul 2013 14:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;It is well known...&quot;
Well known by whom and says who?
The Koran is the basis for Islamic law. Who is the Pope of Islam who decides who is &quot;schooled&quot; and who isn&#039;t? There is no debate? Says who? That magical Muslim Pope? Which Mullah do you listen to? They each have different interpretations depending on the day and issue. (Kinda like Muhammad and Allah) They can&#039;t even agree with themselves let alone each other. They issue fatawas and counter fatawas regularly. One says women should suckle grown men, and another says that is disgusting. Some say it is okay to sodomize young boys and some say they must be over 12 years old. Some say any male sexual contact with another male is homosexual and forbidden on the threat of death. Others say sex between males is okay as long as they are not lovers. (?) So what is a good Muslim to do? I guess read the Koran - if they can read.
No debate about that, is there?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It is well known&#8230;&#8221;<br />
Well known by whom and says who?<br />
The Koran is the basis for Islamic law. Who is the Pope of Islam who decides who is &#8220;schooled&#8221; and who isn&#8217;t? There is no debate? Says who? That magical Muslim Pope? Which Mullah do you listen to? They each have different interpretations depending on the day and issue. (Kinda like Muhammad and Allah) They can&#8217;t even agree with themselves let alone each other. They issue fatawas and counter fatawas regularly. One says women should suckle grown men, and another says that is disgusting. Some say it is okay to sodomize young boys and some say they must be over 12 years old. Some say any male sexual contact with another male is homosexual and forbidden on the threat of death. Others say sex between males is okay as long as they are not lovers. (?) So what is a good Muslim to do? I guess read the Koran &#8211; if they can read.<br />
No debate about that, is there?</p>
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		<title>By: TienBing</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TienBing]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jul 2013 14:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No worse than the ethnic cleansing of Christian Serbs by the Muslim Serbs - that ethnic cleansing by the Muslims continues.
It was extremely foolish for the US or NATO to get involved or take sides. It is a fight that has roots 1000 years ago. Both sides have been aggressors or victims at various times. (The original aggressors however, were the Muslims. It must be a surprise to the Muslim apologists to hear that others besides Muslims have a long memory, and a belief that once territory is theirs, it is theirs forever - and are equally justified in their belief.)
All we did was throw the advantage to the Muslims who have since violated every agreement not to molest the non-Muslims who remain in Bosnia. Christian Serbs who have lived in areas that have always been non-Muslim, are being forced out by the Muslims. The beat goes on.

Rape let alone mass rape is a shame and a disgrace to civilized people, particularly to Christians, unlike Muslims. Muslims use the shame that civilized people feel when a crime like that is reported or claimed, to embarrass them and manipulate their guilt. Islam on the other hand encourages rape, and torture as legitimate means of oppressing and exploiting non-believers. It is hilarious for a Muslim to feign shock over rape. It is also evidence of the poster&#039;s insincerity.

&quot;Serbia is internationally recognized as the aggressor this can not be seen as retaliatory.&quot; Say what? Right. The world recognizes that Obama is worthy of the Nobel prize and the Muslim Brotherhood is nothing more than a benign service organization.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No worse than the ethnic cleansing of Christian Serbs by the Muslim Serbs &#8211; that ethnic cleansing by the Muslims continues.<br />
It was extremely foolish for the US or NATO to get involved or take sides. It is a fight that has roots 1000 years ago. Both sides have been aggressors or victims at various times. (The original aggressors however, were the Muslims. It must be a surprise to the Muslim apologists to hear that others besides Muslims have a long memory, and a belief that once territory is theirs, it is theirs forever &#8211; and are equally justified in their belief.)<br />
All we did was throw the advantage to the Muslims who have since violated every agreement not to molest the non-Muslims who remain in Bosnia. Christian Serbs who have lived in areas that have always been non-Muslim, are being forced out by the Muslims. The beat goes on.</p>
<p>Rape let alone mass rape is a shame and a disgrace to civilized people, particularly to Christians, unlike Muslims. Muslims use the shame that civilized people feel when a crime like that is reported or claimed, to embarrass them and manipulate their guilt. Islam on the other hand encourages rape, and torture as legitimate means of oppressing and exploiting non-believers. It is hilarious for a Muslim to feign shock over rape. It is also evidence of the poster&#8217;s insincerity.</p>
<p>&#8220;Serbia is internationally recognized as the aggressor this can not be seen as retaliatory.&#8221; Say what? Right. The world recognizes that Obama is worthy of the Nobel prize and the Muslim Brotherhood is nothing more than a benign service organization.</p>
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		<title>By: Hamza Hashem</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hamza Hashem]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jul 2013 13:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[According to WHO - The practice is most common in the western, eastern, and north-eastern regions of Africa, in some countries in Asia and the Middle East

The causes of female genital mutilation include a mix of cultural, religious and social factors within families and communities.



Above and beyond this, for all of those who are saying that this practice has anything to do with Islam, I simple ask, where is written? Where is the daleel for such opinions? And the answer has not come and never will, as you and I know that this practice is a social/cultural issue, and not a religious one.


Just because one does an action and claims it as part of a religion, does not mean it actually is part of said religion.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to WHO &#8211; The practice is most common in the western, eastern, and north-eastern regions of Africa, in some countries in Asia and the Middle East</p>
<p>The causes of female genital mutilation include a mix of cultural, religious and social factors within families and communities.</p>
<p>Above and beyond this, for all of those who are saying that this practice has anything to do with Islam, I simple ask, where is written? Where is the daleel for such opinions? And the answer has not come and never will, as you and I know that this practice is a social/cultural issue, and not a religious one.</p>
<p>Just because one does an action and claims it as part of a religion, does not mean it actually is part of said religion.</p>
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		<title>By: Hamza Hashem</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jul 2013 12:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I rarely foray into the waters of this arena but I thought I would also point out Charlie97 that you are also talking to a person who earlier referred to &quot;and foolishly fought for Muslims in Bosnia against Christian Serbs.&quot;

Hence a person whom condones and supported the &quot;ethnic cleansing&quot; (bordering on genocide as seen by court filings) and mass rapes, of Muslims in Bosnia - As Serbia is internationally recognized as the aggressor this can not be seen as retaliatory.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I rarely foray into the waters of this arena but I thought I would also point out Charlie97 that you are also talking to a person who earlier referred to &#8220;and foolishly fought for Muslims in Bosnia against Christian Serbs.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hence a person whom condones and supported the &#8220;ethnic cleansing&#8221; (bordering on genocide as seen by court filings) and mass rapes, of Muslims in Bosnia &#8211; As Serbia is internationally recognized as the aggressor this can not be seen as retaliatory.</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie97</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/david-solway/the-question-of-islamic-reform/comment-page-1/#comment-5248257</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Charlie97]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jul 2013 12:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No-one likes to surrender territory. Especially if you and your ancestors have lived there for a long time. Palestinians are no different to you or me in this regard. The Chechens have been brutalised by the Russians and are entitled to force them from their land, in as much as the Russians feel that it is their right to retain some kind of claim to that land.

However, you continue to insist that the Chechens struggling to free themselves from the yoke of Russian oppression is some type of Islamist struggle, whereas it is clear to me and many others that it is nothing of the sort. It is an oppressed people, fighting back against aggressors. However, you hate Muslims and will bend the facts to suit your narrative.

And you did not address my question. I mentioned Armageddon, and you twisted the question to say that, &quot;many...would love to bring Armageddon to Islam&quot;. I was referring to the Biblical event of Armageddon.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No-one likes to surrender territory. Especially if you and your ancestors have lived there for a long time. Palestinians are no different to you or me in this regard. The Chechens have been brutalised by the Russians and are entitled to force them from their land, in as much as the Russians feel that it is their right to retain some kind of claim to that land.</p>
<p>However, you continue to insist that the Chechens struggling to free themselves from the yoke of Russian oppression is some type of Islamist struggle, whereas it is clear to me and many others that it is nothing of the sort. It is an oppressed people, fighting back against aggressors. However, you hate Muslims and will bend the facts to suit your narrative.</p>
<p>And you did not address my question. I mentioned Armageddon, and you twisted the question to say that, &#8220;many&#8230;would love to bring Armageddon to Islam&#8221;. I was referring to the Biblical event of Armageddon.</p>
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		<title>By: TienBing</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/david-solway/the-question-of-islamic-reform/comment-page-1/#comment-5248254</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TienBing]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jul 2013 12:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[“So, what about my claim…?” The key word is few.

There may be some, (most likely Serbs who have been persecuted by Muslims for a1000 years), who would love to bring Armageddon to Islam. I’m sure there are many more who would relish turning the tables on their Muslim persecutors, but most non-Muslims would just like them to go away and leave them alone.

Osama Bin Laden was only following in the steps of Mohammad - the first and model terrorist. The Palestinians hate Jews foremost among all non-believers. Territory once claimed by Islam cannot be surrendered. Plus - hating Jews is in the Koran. Chechens, like most Muslims, when there are more than a few in one place, attempt to force Islam and sharia down everyones throat. The Chechens want an independent Islamic state. That the Russians are just as brutal as the Chechens in their tactics and determination not to submit - as the Chechens are to forge an independent Islamic Republic in Russian territory, means that is going to be a long bloody fight.

Your assumption that no one would spot your distortions and misrepresentations of history, or they would be swayed by your claims of authority, or would be too cowed by politically correct think to challenge your false narrative reflects your lazy arrogance. Not only the Koran, but history gives the lie to your assertions about “peaceful” Islam. If you are sincerely as indoctrinated, or as naive about history and Islam as you seem to be - reread the Koran and take another look at Islam’s historic record. But I suspect you are not. Your talking points are too pat.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“So, what about my claim…?” The key word is few.</p>
<p>There may be some, (most likely Serbs who have been persecuted by Muslims for a1000 years), who would love to bring Armageddon to Islam. I’m sure there are many more who would relish turning the tables on their Muslim persecutors, but most non-Muslims would just like them to go away and leave them alone.</p>
<p>Osama Bin Laden was only following in the steps of Mohammad &#8211; the first and model terrorist. The Palestinians hate Jews foremost among all non-believers. Territory once claimed by Islam cannot be surrendered. Plus &#8211; hating Jews is in the Koran. Chechens, like most Muslims, when there are more than a few in one place, attempt to force Islam and sharia down everyones throat. The Chechens want an independent Islamic state. That the Russians are just as brutal as the Chechens in their tactics and determination not to submit &#8211; as the Chechens are to forge an independent Islamic Republic in Russian territory, means that is going to be a long bloody fight.</p>
<p>Your assumption that no one would spot your distortions and misrepresentations of history, or they would be swayed by your claims of authority, or would be too cowed by politically correct think to challenge your false narrative reflects your lazy arrogance. Not only the Koran, but history gives the lie to your assertions about “peaceful” Islam. If you are sincerely as indoctrinated, or as naive about history and Islam as you seem to be &#8211; reread the Koran and take another look at Islam’s historic record. But I suspect you are not. Your talking points are too pat.</p>
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		<title>By: TienBing</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/david-solway/the-question-of-islamic-reform/comment-page-1/#comment-5248249</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TienBing]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jul 2013 11:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Many people...radical Islamist...&quot;

Really? How many versions of the Koran are there? I was lead to believe that the koran is the word of Allah; Mohammad was the last true prophet; there would be no more to follow - per Allah; Allah&#039;s word is law; Mohammad is the perfect man. It&#039;s good to know all of that is untrue. However, taqqiya is a better explanation for your duplicitous arguments.

True, there haven&#039;t been16 million WTC atrocities - but only because there aren&#039;t 16 million WTCs, but there have been far more than 16 million terrorist acts just this century - probably in the last decade. Muslims are terrorizing, murdering - or both, thousands of Christians, Hindus, and Buddhists, in the Middle East, South Asia, and Indonesia  every day - not to mention women and children anywhere Islam has sway. Africa is another shining example of Islamic goodwill to non-believers. Check out Nigeria to learn about Muslim&#039;s peaceful intent toward those who don&#039;t want to be happy Moslems. 

Equivocating the Christian right boogieman with Muslim terrorist is a specious argument meant to deflect attention from the reality that murder, oppression, and terrorism are inherent to Islam. Terrorism IS in the Koran. Murdering infidels is highly recommended IN the Koran. (2:256) is a rare injunction against forced conversion. Read the rest of the Koran. You will find many more Suras admonishing true believers to force non-believers to convert - or die. Also many detailing exactly how to oppress, murder, and or subjugate non-believers
Dialogues with Mullahs are always enlightening.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Many people&#8230;radical Islamist&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Really? How many versions of the Koran are there? I was lead to believe that the koran is the word of Allah; Mohammad was the last true prophet; there would be no more to follow &#8211; per Allah; Allah&#8217;s word is law; Mohammad is the perfect man. It&#8217;s good to know all of that is untrue. However, taqqiya is a better explanation for your duplicitous arguments.</p>
<p>True, there haven&#8217;t been16 million WTC atrocities &#8211; but only because there aren&#8217;t 16 million WTCs, but there have been far more than 16 million terrorist acts just this century &#8211; probably in the last decade. Muslims are terrorizing, murdering &#8211; or both, thousands of Christians, Hindus, and Buddhists, in the Middle East, South Asia, and Indonesia  every day &#8211; not to mention women and children anywhere Islam has sway. Africa is another shining example of Islamic goodwill to non-believers. Check out Nigeria to learn about Muslim&#8217;s peaceful intent toward those who don&#8217;t want to be happy Moslems. </p>
<p>Equivocating the Christian right boogieman with Muslim terrorist is a specious argument meant to deflect attention from the reality that murder, oppression, and terrorism are inherent to Islam. Terrorism IS in the Koran. Murdering infidels is highly recommended IN the Koran. (2:256) is a rare injunction against forced conversion. Read the rest of the Koran. You will find many more Suras admonishing true believers to force non-believers to convert &#8211; or die. Also many detailing exactly how to oppress, murder, and or subjugate non-believers<br />
Dialogues with Mullahs are always enlightening.</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie97</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/david-solway/the-question-of-islamic-reform/comment-page-1/#comment-5248227</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Charlie97]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jul 2013 07:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why should I close my mouth and not say that you are unable to acknowledge simple home truths? You term every single act performed by a Muslim as, &quot;having been done &#039;in the name of Islam&#039;. Read the Qur&#039;an, it&#039;s in there!&quot;.


Osama Bin Laden may have said that he performed his acts in the name of Islam, granted. But what about the Palestinians? Or the Chechens? Are they acting in the name of Islam? Or do they, perhaps, have some territorial or political gripe with their enemy? This is sheer intellectual laziness on your part, and others on this board.


Therefore, in s similarly lazy manner, I shall label every single thing performed by a Christian, &quot;in the name of Christianity&quot;. The U.S.A. did not go into Iraq to simply topple Saddam Hussein and his party, but to control the resources of the country in order to further Christian control in an Islamic region of the world.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why should I close my mouth and not say that you are unable to acknowledge simple home truths? You term every single act performed by a Muslim as, &#8220;having been done &#8216;in the name of Islam&#8217;. Read the Qur&#8217;an, it&#8217;s in there!&#8221;.</p>
<p>Osama Bin Laden may have said that he performed his acts in the name of Islam, granted. But what about the Palestinians? Or the Chechens? Are they acting in the name of Islam? Or do they, perhaps, have some territorial or political gripe with their enemy? This is sheer intellectual laziness on your part, and others on this board.</p>
<p>Therefore, in s similarly lazy manner, I shall label every single thing performed by a Christian, &#8220;in the name of Christianity&#8221;. The U.S.A. did not go into Iraq to simply topple Saddam Hussein and his party, but to control the resources of the country in order to further Christian control in an Islamic region of the world.</p>
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