Israeli Chief of Staff: Syria ‘Could Blow Up at Any Moment’


One doesn’t know what to make of murky reports this week about the U.S., Britain, and France training a small force of purportedly moderate Syrian rebels in Jordan—especially with the Obama administration taking the official line that it does not directly aid the Syrian opposition.

If there was ever a time to build a coherent, more or less trustworthy, genuinely moderate Syrian opposition to replace the Assad regime—and it is a questionable proposition—that time would appear to have passed, as the Syrian chaos worsens and the radicals gain strength by the day.

How badly the situation has deteriorated was evident from a report in Israel Hayom on Monday that “Syrian rebels…near the border with Israel threatened…to fight to regain the Golan Heights from Israel following the toppling of Syrian President Bashar Assad.”

The report includes a video in which a “rebel fighter” in the Syrian part of the Golan—just across from the Israeli part—declares:

These lands are blessed and the despicable Assad family promised to liberate them, but for 40 years the Syrian army did not fire a single bullet. We will open a military campaign against Israel. We will fire the bullets that Assad did not and we will liberate the Golan.

The report also quotes Yigal Palmor of the Israeli Foreign Ministry acknowledging Israel’s “great concern that uncontrolled elements at the service of extremist ideas will manage to take over smaller or bigger separate territories inside the Syrian borders…. The ‘Somalization’ of Syria is a great concern….”

That the worries go to the top of the Israeli defense establishment was clear from an Israel Hayom report on Tuesday about a talk given by Chief of Staff Lt. Gen. Benny Gantz.

Gantz told the prestigious annual Herzliya Conference that

the threat of the situation in Syria spiraling out of control is quite high…. Every week there is an incident that has the potential to…ignite a regional conflagration….

The situation in Syria has become…extraordinarily dangerous. Even though the probability of a conventional war with Syria is low, the terrorist organizations fighting against Assad could see us as their next challenge. The Syrian army’s substantial arsenal of strategic weapons could fall into the hands of terrorist organizations…. What we have here is a strategic detonator that could blow up at any moment.

A few days earlier—while 21 Filipino UNDOF soldiers were still being held by rebels on the Golan—David Schenker and others warned that UNDOF was in trouble. Though the 21 have since been released, Schenker and colleagues noted that their abduction was only “the latest in a series of assaults on the UN peacekeepers” and that

Already, the deterioration in security has prompted Japan, Canada, and Croatia to withdraw their longstanding personnel contributions from UNDOF. If the trend continues, the remaining contributors are all but certain to curtail their commitments as well, ending the only effective international monitoring mechanism along the Israel-Syria border.

UNDOF—the UN Disengagement Observer Force—has been in place since just after the 1973 Yom Kippur War. For those claiming that international forces were one of the keys to solving Israel’s conflict with its neighbors, UNDOF was about the only purported success story they could point to.

Israel, for its part, while it has never had illusions about the Assad (père et fils) regime, knew it was a rational actor that had been deterred for forty years. Since the Syrian revolt broke out exactly two years ago, the Israeli authorities’ attitude has ranged from skepticism to trepidation. Of late, fears threaten to materialize.

For that matter, Israel was never optimistic about the revolution in Egypt or the “Arab Spring” generally. Going back to President George W. Bush’s first term ten years ago, Israel was deeply skeptical about democratizing Iraq and warned that Iran posed a much greater threat.

President Obama will be visiting Israel in exactly a week. He should try respecting its knowledge of the region it inhabits and stop treating its prime minister as an annoying fool.

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  • http://www.adinakutnicki.com AdinaK

    In general, people often fail to pay attention to clear cut statements, yet jump on media hype which is often blown out of proportion for political effect.

    That being said, David understands the nuances of Israeli/regional events, as do a select few. Therefore, the following was commented on – http://adinakutnicki.com/2013/03/10/a-hellfire-un

    Indeed, anyone who is not prepared, for the upcoming conflagration, is living in fantasy land. A very dangerous place to reside.

    Adina Kutnicki, Israel http://adinakutnicki.com/about/

    • Drakken

      War is coming, you can smell it !

      • EarlyBird

        Hurray!

        • defcon 4

          DrtyBrd would prefer islamofascists be allowed to continue their slow motion genocides and ethnic cleansing unopposed.

  • kafir4life

    President Stinky (bo) will do as he always does and lead from his behind.

    • WhateverMan

      Why is that a US problem? israel and their zionist tools are the ones crying about Syria and Iran: they should deal with it.

      • ziontruth

        "Why is that a US problem?"

        I actually agree it shouldn't be. For the reason why it is, look in the mirror: Islam-firster stooges like you are the ones turning the regional conflicts in the Middle East into a global problem that needs to be solved if there's to be world peace—appeasement of the Islamic aggressor on expense of the Jewish State.

        • WhateverMan

          The US has the prerogative to ally itself with any country based on its interests. You can qualify it any way you want. As a recipient of generous US financial aid as well as diplomatic protection, israel should be grateful. But beggars can be choosers if they are jewish since they can allow themselves to defame and besmirch the democratically elected head of state of said benevolent country because he doesn't sacrifice the interests of his country for the so called jewish state.

          • ziontruth

            "The US has the prerogative to ally itself with any country based on its interests."

            This from somebody who complains about "Zionist tools" is quite rich. It's the familiar paleocon faux-isolationist racket: Play anti-interventionist when it comes to the U.S.-Israel relationship, then reveal your true interventionist colors when it comes to appeasing the Muslim world on Israel's expense.

            Since you claim your interests are paramount, let me try to appeal to that claim: You'd better not push things too far with your appeasement of Islamic imperialism with gifts of Jewish land; you know what Israel will do when pushed too far, when it really comes to having nothing to lose.

            "As a recipient of generous US financial aid…"

            None received since 1997. Your imperialism of wishing to hold Israel as if by a leash is hereby revealed.

            "But beggars can be choosers if they are jewish…"

            Being a Muslim or Islam-sympathizer means never having to admit wrongfulness.

            "…because he doesn't sacrifice the interests of his country for the so called jewish state."

            More like, because he does sacrifice the Jewish State for the interests of appeasing Islamic imperialist aggression.

          • WhateverMan

            Any territorial concession israel makes are in its own interests, as it did with Egypt to buy itself peace on its southern border. It asked the US to sweetened the deal by bribing Sadat and than Mubarak. That allowed it to focus on the invasion and occupation of Lebanese territory and intensify and prolong the suffering of the Palestinians.
            What will israel do if "it is pushed to far'? Use its nuclear arsenal because it won't return stolen land? If it chooses the Samson option, it will be the suicide of the jewish people not only in israel but around the world Don't make me laugh: I doubt even the most patient of your allies will allow you to endanger access to the oil.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            The prolonged suffering of the Palestinians rests squarely on the shoulders of the leadership of the palestinians.

            Ask Schallit. Want to know why Israel can't turn their back on Gaza? Can you say 'thousands of kassam rockets'?

          • ziontruth

            "That allowed it to focus on the invasion and occupation of Lebanese territory and intensify and prolong the suffering of the Palestinians. … won't return stolen land …"

            There it is, folks: The mask is off. He doesn't even pretend to be not taking sides—this is the full-blown pro-Arab-imperialist line you can find on any bona fide left-wing interventionist cesspool.

            "If it chooses the Samson option, it will be the suicide of the jewish people not only in israel but around the world"

            The demise of the Jewish State would spell the end of the Jewish people anyhow, because a second Holocaust would be the final nail in the coffin of Jewish belief, already very strained by the first. So, if we're destined to go, at least we'll be taking with us anybody who made it happen—immediate, clear punishment, unlike after the Holocaust.

            Of course, it's better to hope for God's salvation of the sheep among seventy wolves. But just in case that doesn't happen, the sheep is loaded with a poison capsule that will cause the immediate death of all the wolves who'd eaten it. Beware.

            Anti-Zionists, you will pay!

          • WhateverMan

            Mask was never on. The Occupied Territories are stolen land. The whole world agrees, as per international law. israel agrees but simply won't abide, instead wasting time with endless negotiations while increasing settlement activities. Calling a rapist a rapist is not taking sides, but stating a fact, so tone down the dramatics.
            As far as the Samson option is concerned, I am pretty sure that the US would not allow Israel to endanger its economy and way of life with it's behavior. I am sure has contingency plan to deal with it swiftly and effectively.
            The Pentagon, the CIA and West Point are some of the few remaining institutions that have been infiltrated by zionists elements. Hence Pollard. Hence Hagel.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            The mask was on. Obama received campaign cash from Gaza the first time and the media hushed it up.
            http://www.israeltoday.co.il/default.aspx?tabid=1

            You really should pretend to use facts. You won't fool anyone but it might help you learn mental discipline.

          • WhateverMan

            And you should learn to read: his comment regarding the mask is aimed at me not Obama.
            As far as Obama receiving campaign cash from Gaza: here is a quote from the Federal Election Commission:
            Can non-US citizens contribute?

            Foreign nationals are prohibited from making any contributions or expenditures in connection with any election in the U.S. Please note, however, that "green card" holders (i.e., individuals lawfully admitted for permanent residence in the U.S.) are not considered foreign nationals and, as a result, may contribute. For additional information, consult our "Foreign Nationals" brochure..

            We get it. You don`t like him. As your idol THE DRAKKEN succinctly put it: he is a bloody kaffir savage.

          • WhateverMan

            Also, Roger, I went to check your source: Israel Today. Here is what it says on its wikipedia page:
            “ Ben-Dror Yemini has described the paper as "a danger to democracy".
            “Yisrael Hayom's coverage was biased in favor of Netanyahu in most editorial decisions, that the paper chooses to play down events that don't help to promote a positive image for Netanyahu, while on the other hand, touting and inflating events that help promote Netanyahu and the Likud`;
            “Oren Frisco reached the same conclusion after the 2009 Knesset elections, writing that throughout the campaign, Yisrael HaYom published only one article critical of the Likud, and tens of articles critical of Kadima.“

            In other words, you are quoting from a right wing israeli rag close to the likud and bibi.
            You like facts alright: that agree with your bias..

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            But you don't have facts showing any of that, just a muslim friendly entry at wikipedia.

            I wonder how that conveniently came up?

          • WhateverMan

            Roger, you`re worrying me…At this rate, you will claim that reality itself is Muslim friendly.
            I am starting to believe THE DRAKKEN is the brains of this operation.
            Were you, as you claimed, really dedicated to facts, you would have checked the validity of the entry by following up on the qotations. The links are all the bottom of the page. But you are either not very smart or worse, a hypocrite so you don`t want to face facts that contradict your prejudices and biases.
            You`re limiting and hurting yourself, which is fine by me.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            I've discussed the topic you brought up with that wiki post.

            And if you can't show what I said about it was wrong then why waste time just being a troll and trying to just bore everything to death?

          • WhateverMan

            I am gonna try one more time. I am not doing this for you, but for all the people out there to see the neverending battle that delusional racist like you have with reality.
            You haven`t “discussed“ the topic. You claimed that the Wikipedia entry on Israel Today (with referrences at the bottom of the page), which you quoted on an earlier post, was “Muslim friendly“ you didn`t bring any proof, justification or explanation as to why you came to that conclusion except for I suspect is an accute fear of dealing with facts that contradict your racist point of view of the world. Which is normal. You cherish those views. You don`t want to part with them. They are part of view. But one day, you will have to let go, move on, accept the fact that there is a Black president with whose middlename is Hussein and is much smarter than you. That is life.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            I discussed that Gaza gave funding to Obama.
            I even provided one source. You didn't show that story was wrong, you attacked the source as if claiming wiki without any substantiation proved that the news source was biased.

            How many other links would you like?

          • WhateverMan

            First of all, stop `liking` your own posts. The moment I refresh there is a post with 1 like. It`s lame and shows you as insecure and needing to be loved.
            Below is what you refer to as discussing “that Gaza gave funding to Obama“. If there is another one, I haven`t seen it.

            `The mask was on. Obama received campaign cash from Gaza the first time and the media hushed it up. http://www.israeltoday.co.il/default.aspx?tabid=1….

            You really should pretend to use facts. You won't fool anyone but it might help you learn mental discipline“

            THAT`S IT?????

          • Drakken

            You and facts in the same sentence is an oxymoron you dumbazz muzzy.

          • WhateverMan

            Drakken in da house! How was school? . Did you nap? Don`t forget to finish your homework before you go out and play by yourself in the playground…

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            How many would you like?
            http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/08/obamas_don
            http://www.wnd.com/2008/08/71431/
            http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2
            http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/Obama-fundraising

            Even the Daily Beast admitted to $33,000 from Gaza but claims they returned it. So, if you want to claim it never happened that won't work.

          • WhateverMan

            Again, you're linking to well-known rightwing, anti-Obama rags.
            They actually quote eachother for that story.
            The only one you don't link to is the Daily Beast. I understand why. It is actually left leaning.
            By the way, here is the type of article they write on your precious WND

            WND EXCLUSIVE
            Claim: Obama hid 'gay life' to become president
            Chicago homosexual community shocked he could keep it secret
            http://www.wnd.com/2012/09/claim-obama-hid-gay-li

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            And the also quote sources you haven't been able to deny. If they all prove the same point of course they would have overlap in reporting. That only proves that you can't actually debate the issue.

          • Omar

            And you often repeat propaganda from left-wing anti-American, anti-Western hate groups. Quit repeating leftist/Islamist propaganda.

          • patriothere

            So what? How much money does israel steal from the US? Why isn't AIPAC registered as an agency of a foreign government?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            And how much money do you make for posting propaganda?

            6 minutes ago @ Breitbart.com – Protests to greet Ahma… · 1 reply · 0 points
            I'm like jesus, I'm gonna chase you money changers out of the temple and out of town and of course out of this forum. Me and ohsoquiet and a few other REAL AMERICANS who are being PAID to be here like you Israeli PR men. I'm here to chase you filth out.

          • Drakken

            Spoken in true muzzy ghetto fashion. Good luck turk, your going to need it soon enough, so do yourself a favor and head back to the land of your muslim ancestors.

          • EarlyBird

            Oops! Looks like Little Roger, this site's "serious mind," just got his empty head handed to him.

            Yeah, perhaps you look at your propaganda sources a bit closer, fool.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Of course not, but you'll keep saying that just because you have nothing else to say.

          • Omar

            And you are a puppet paid by the left-wing Islamist "Palestinian" Reich known as Hamas and Islamic Jihad

          • ziontruth

            "Mask was never on."

            You claimed to be an isolationist, didn't you? Or was I mistaking you for the boatload of faux-isolationist Buchananites excreting on FPM?

            "The Occupied Territories are stolen land."

            The Arab-Colonized Jewish Territories belong to the Jewish nation, and this whole issue is none of your business.

            "Calling a rapist a rapist is not taking sides, but stating a fact, so tone down the dramatics."

            So I'm not taking sides when I call you a neo-Nazi, and can tell you to tone down the dramatics on that basis. Right?

          • Omar

            And you are probably a troll paid by the Castro dictatorship and the Iranian theocracy. Quit repeating leftist/Islamist propaganda.

          • WhateverMan

            “ So, if we're destined to go, at least we'll be taking with us anybody who made it happen—immediate, clear punishment, unlike after the Holocaust.“

            The Iranians and you clearly wish to go at each other. Iran will obtain a nuclear bomb. Just a question of time. you want to find a reason to annihilate each other; well and good. You`re welcome to it.
            Finally the world can live in peace. I just hope that you don`t start that you can`t finish and ask the world to do it for you.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Multiple rants? Can't you make a long disjointed fuzzy conclusion with one?

          • patriothere

            Iran will never obtain a nuclear bomb.

          • Mary Sue

            you're delusional.

          • patriothere

            Read the NIE reports and the NPT.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            She probably has and understands that Iran is much closer to not just the missile delivery but the detonator and other issues thanks to help from their friends in North Korea.

          • patriothere

            If she did then she would know that Iran can never have nuclear weapons under those obligations. But of course we know where you stand.

            Roger 169p · 23 hours ago
            The Almighty gives life and it's His place to take it away. You can't show those Egyptians were perfect and didn't deserve it.

            The account shows God gave them several times to do the right thing

          • Omar

            The so-called "Palestinians" are not a nation. They are an invented people (Newt Gingrich is right) Palestine is only a geographical name, not an ethnicity. Anyone who lives in the former Palestine Mandate (Israel, Gaza, West Bank and Jordan) is a Palestinian, regardless of characteristics. The Israelis and Jordanians are Palestinians. Palestine is not even an Arabic name. Palestine is a Latin name meaning Philistines, who were Greek sailors who had red hair (the Philistines were not Arabs). For more than 60 years, Israel has tried to make peace with its neighbors over and over again, but the Islamists do not want peace. The Islamists want world domination. You support radical Islamism which means that you support a world were women would be treated like chattel, where homosexuals would be lynched from cranes for being homosexuals, and where Jews and people of other faiths and beliefs (as well as non-religious peoples) are not allowed in. Quit repeating leftist/Islamist propaganda and learn from facts.

          • John

            WhateverMan

            Gave up the Sinai & the Gaza Strip. All the WhateverMans & jihadis of the world had to do was not attack Israel & they could have got the Golan & the West Bank too.

            But hey could not contain themselves. They could not wait. They could have had it by now , but instead they must suicide bomb, shell & engage in rocket attacks.

            Look in the mirror & you will see who to blame.

          • Drakken

            Whatever is a bloody turk, so you know where its loyalties lie, and it isn't with us infidels.

          • WhateverMan

            Are you sure…because, according to you, I was a bloody savage South African kafir as well as a self hating jews. make up your mind, detective.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Is that the background you're going to stick with now?

          • WhateverMan

            I don't know, ask your boyfriend: he is the brains, you are the braun.(again with the self-liking?)

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            So, how many different backgrounds do you pretend here?

          • Drakken

            You stated that your family came from turkey, hence you are a turk, see? Simples simpleton.

          • WhateverMan

            I said my family was from Turkey? Are you sure you're not confusing me with robert spencer? he claims his family fled from Turkey to avoid being converted. I challenged that assertion and Breivek Jr concludes that my family comes from Turkey!
            Your powers are deductions are impregnable. That means they cannot be pregnated. Flawless victory.

          • Drakken

            Congrats! You win the leftist Darwin Award, with honors! Say hi to uncle dad and aunty mom for me ya inbred savage.

          • defcon 4

            Well done sir.

          • Drakken

            ;) Why thank you Sir !

          • AnOrdinaryMan

            In fact, Barack Obama IS sacrificing the interests of his country, in a myriad of ways, which have NOTHING to do with Israel, the world's only Jewish state. Want me to list a few?

          • WhateverMan

            What are you waiting for?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Perhaps someone worth the time it would take.

          • WhateverMan

            And he would be right. One needs to severely downgrade ones intelligence and I am not ready to make that sacrifice. You seem to already have. So enjoy
            By the way , THE DRAKKEN just posted a racist diatribe on savage Blacks and Arabs. He is waiting for you to "like" them…

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You made that sacrifice long ago, it worked so well you don't even realize it happened.

            If you want to show barbarism, factually of course, then read this one. http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/03/13/us-paki

            Are you going to call me a racist too?

          • WhateverMan

            I am. It was only mere decades, not centuries or millenias that black men used to be lynched with impunity for looking at a white women the wrong way in the South.
            Had the internet existed then, someone like you would have posted links to those events and made sweeping generalization about all the adherents of Christianity and all White people as typical behavior.
            People in the South have come a long way since those days. If there is still hope for racists like you, there is hope for those people in Pakistan.
            And the fact that you`admit you like THE DRAKKEN`s racist posts kindda outted you, but you were not smart enough to realize it on time.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            And republican conservatives stopped it.

            So your point is what? That a conservative here should be blamed for it?
            The crime rate in black communities is higher, if you want to prove him wrong you may have to do better than that liberal talking point.

            Rosa Parks would be ashamed of many black people today.

          • patriothere

            Roger 169p · 23 hours ago
            The Almighty gives life and it's His place to take it away. You can't show those Egyptians were perfect and didn't deserve it.

            Th account shows God gave them several times to do the right thing

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Still the hack paid troll just trying to drive everyone away?

            6 minutes ago @ Breitbart.com – Protests to greet Ahma… · 1 reply · 0 points
            I'm like jesus, I'm gonna chase you money changers out of the temple and out of town and of course out of this forum. Me and ohsoquiet and a few other REAL AMERICANS who are being PAID to be here like you Israeli PR men. I'm here to chase you filth out.

          • WhateverMan

            Man, you must have gone to the Drakken Institute of Higher Learning. Where are republican conservatives mentioned.
            Who is being a troll, now, Rog…
            timeline:
            Racist man post link to stoning in Pakistan and makes sweeping comments alluding at Muslims being barbarian.
            Racist man is reminded that in the South, Black people used to be lynched to: missed the point that this is about generalizations.
            Racist manages to mention black crime rate, Republicans and Rosa Parks, completely going off topic.
            Racist man is hopless. No wonder he like THE DRAKKEN.
            Racist man goes on a tangent ab

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Why is a link to Pakistan racist?

            Do you wear out that racist card often?

          • WhateverMan

            Again with the lame deflection: not the link, your conclusions as in below:
            “If you want to show barbarism, factually of course, then read this one. http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/03/13/us-paki

            You wore out your brain.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Not at all. How did you consider a story about the barbarism of islam a deflection?

          • WhateverMan

            "Eye roll"
            So Muslim stone adulterers somewhere in a village in Pakistan means all Muslims are barbarians.
            Whites in the South lynching black people means all Whites are racists.

            I seriously don't think you are getting how dense you sound or whether you just want to have the last world. You are idiocy is boring me, Roger. Have the last word, schnukems.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            sharia demands they all do, an honor killing happened here in arizona.

          • WhateverMan

            No it doesn't. There different strains of Islam just like there in Christianity. Countries apply Sharia law on different scales.Among those who apply it strictly, some would advocate for example death for blasphemy, while another imprisonment. Some use it for criminal and civil law, other use it only in civil matters only (divorce) while using British or Napoleonic law in criminal matters.
            Things are not that as simple as spencer would like you to believe

          • Drakken

            Islam of whatever flavor or stripe is still islam.Keep trying to sing kumbay and don't forget to put that COEXIST sticker on that prius.
            East is east and west is west and never the the twain shall meet.

          • Mary Sue

            Guess, what, Ismaili Muslims and Sufi Muslims and whatever else splinter group are seen as apostates and are just as much in danger from Salafist extremists, and the Sunni-Shiite infighting. Because apparently believing who was the "correct" successor to Muhammad is serious business. That requires the death penalty if you don't believe the right way.

          • patriothere

            At least the sharia doesn't demand the slaughter of children.

            Roger 169p · 23 hours ago
            The Almighty gives life and it's His place to take it away. You can't show those Egyptians were perfect and didn't deserve it.

            The account shows God gave them several times to do the right thing

          • Mary Sue

            It demands the slaughter of INFIDELS. They'll gladly slaughter their OWN children, or did you not get the memo about "honor killings" and such?

          • patriothere

            It is very clear that killing women and children is forbidden.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Not even. Tell that to the bombers in Pakistan last week. How many innocent muslim women and children died?

            Way to many, but when a fake god demands people do his dirty work since he's not able to do it himself that kind of thing is bound to happen.

          • defcon 4

            Then why aren't you living in any one of the islamofascist states that pollute the globe today sunschein?

          • Drakken

            Nice overuse of the reace card dumbazz! It has zero meaning anymore because muzzys like you use it as a blugeon to silence debate, so up yours muzzy. Oh yeah, I am a culturalist and a realist, but thanks for play muzzy.

          • defcon 4

            Um, what are Arabic muslimes doing to black Africans in the Sudan these days Ahmed? Does SLAVERY ring a bell?

          • Mary Sue

            It was teh DEMOCRATS that did it!

        • EarlyBird

          Zion, Israel can crush any trouble spilling out of Syria with one hand tied behind its back. This is just more hysteria-mongering from Front Page. It's a miracle any of you nutjobs can get out of bed in the morning with the steady diet of fear you all live on.

          Chill the Eff out.

          • defcon 4

            Yeah the muzzies who rant and rave about pushing the Jews into the sea and committing a genocide against Jews are all just kidding aren't they?

          • EarlyBird

            How are they gonna "push them into the sea"? Just because they're whack jobs doesn't mean they're a mortal threat.

            It's when we get whipped up into a frenzy of fear that we do really, really stupid things, like invade, occupy and attempt to transform an alien culture into a Western style democracy. After trying that disaster in Iraq, right wing denialists are attempting to do the same in Iran, this time on behalf of Israel and at the behest of the Israel Firsters.

            Hagel's and Obama's rational, America first approach is why the Israel Firsters hate them and smear them idiotically as "pro-Islam." But it sure works on you!

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Have you heard about the 6 day war? The war in 67 or any other example of hostilities or even when they talk about it like Iranian leaders wanting to 'erase' Israel from the map?

            You're delusional.

          • patriothere

            You're stupid. israel talks about wiping iran off the map every day. where is your outrage? israel invades palestine. It's their fault. They attacked syria and lebanon and all of her neighbors. israel cannot live in peace.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You're stupid and a liar.

            Quote them.

      • Drakken

        Whatever idiot, glad to see you will be joining your muslim brothers, more target practice.

        • WhateverMan

          Wanna be Breivik.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Sounds like you're the one bringing up race all over the place.

          • Drakken

            Not bloody likely, don't you have some jihad to go on muzzy?

          • defcon 4

            Breivik didn't kill any muslimes Ahmed.

      • Omar

        Really? Why don't you talk more about why Iran, Syria and their leftist/Islamist tools are trying to conquer the world.

    • EarlyBird

      Why in the world is it the US' job to constantly "lead" in all international conflicts? My God, can't we learn our lesson? Are we drunk on militarism?

      Lets take bets on how long it would take the IDF to smash any threat for any Syrian spill over rabble in the Golan Heights: 3 days tops?

      Israel is the 800 lb. gorilla in that region. They can handle things just fine.

      • Drakken

        Your pacifistic isolationist streak is getting longer. Again let me help you out, Israel is our western ally, the muslims are not and never will be, there, so easy a graduate of Berserkly can do it.

        • Omar

          Drakken, EarlyBird is not a pacifist, but he supports isolationism for America and its allies only. He supports war, but he wants the Islamists and the left to win the war. He and his leftist/Islamist friends don't want peace at all.

        • EarlyBird

          Yes, Israel is our ally. How does that mean we need to lead this effort against would-be Syrian jihadists on the Golan Heights? Why can't we just wish Israel well and keep sending them our weapons?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You mean pretend to be their friend but make them face the world alone without support?

            Hahahahaha….
            You are not the brightest.

          • patriothere

            israel killed 3,000 americans on 9/11 not too mention the USS liberty. How is that evil country an ally of the US?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Still just the cheap rented mouth? We know it wasn't Israel. They do surgical strikes on targets, they don't hit thousands of innocent civilians without warning them first and giving them time to escape.

      • Omar

        You're wrong, EarlyBird. Israel is a peaceful, tolerant, democratic state. Iran and Syria are the real gorilla states and so is their main supporter, Russia. Israel wants peace while the Islamists want world domination. That's the reality.

        • EarlyBird

          Yeah, I want to be able to fly like Superman, too. That doesn't mean I can. My point is to stop treating Israel like this newborn babe in the woods, when in fact it's a serious a$$ kicker that has proven repeatedly it is more than capable of taking care of itself.

          • Ghostwriter

            And here's something for you,EarlyBirdbrain. The Israelis are pro-American. The Palestinians are not. They want us and the Israelis dead. Is that simple enough for you or should I simplify it even further?

  • WilliamJamesWard

    All out war with Israel's neighbors seems to be a foregone conclusion, It is and advantage
    that Israel has if it is wise and uses it to pick the fight on grounds and times that are advantageous.
    Obama may be the match that lights the area up and all he has to offer is weapons to
    Israel's enemies and his colossal arrogance. The idea of a moderate force in the insurgents
    is ludicrous and if America would stop helping Israel's enemies militarize that would be the
    best help for now. Why is it not Israel that is receiving help rather than being set up for the
    final target of the Muslim Brotherhood and Obama, see Psalm 83 and discern………..William

  • Asher

    The farce is that democracy is not prevailing in the Middle East, despite the rhetoric from the Obama administration. Worse dictators are being enabled than the ones who were in place before. Mubarak was at least cooperative with Israel and his military maintained a peaceable state!

    • WhateverMan

      You have a problem with democracy itself: how dare they vote for someone we don't like. At least the dictator knew his place…

      • Drakken

        Wrong again you effing turk, we have a problem with islamist taking us closer to war than ever before.

      • defcon 4

        And Morsi and the MB have been the freedom loving alternative to Mubarak haven't they?

      • Mary Sue

        oh yes, how dare those germans vote for nazis!

    • Winston

      One must not use the name “Obama” in the same message with “democracy”. There is nothing democratic in the American Democrat political party. And, why should “democracy” be associated with a socialist anyway? It’s like pouring oil on a duck’s back…it doesn’t stick.

  • islam stinks

    whateverman why don't you pack it up and go back to your muslim nation and continue being a jerk to your own?

    • defcon 4

      For all we know whatever man might be a "moderate" muslime in whatever islamofascist state he crawled out of.

  • jerome

    israel will again be thwarted right at the brink of complete victory over terror, the EU will ensure this, and thus the proclivity and ability to attack israel will always be an option, just as the europeans , the cowards,
    want it, and of course ably abetted by obama and his cadre of jew hating sychophants.

  • jkort1

    "Israel, for its part, while it has never had illusions about the Assad (père et fils) regime, knew it was a rational actor that had been deterred for forty years.""..but for 40 years the Syrian army did not fire a single bullet." Yes, Assad is rational. The quality of life in Syria was rising in spite of a major war next door. He has not been militarily aggressive. They have educated their children instead of sending them to jihad summer camps. Secular Syria has honored minorities and all religious groups. They have taken in hundreds of thousands of refugees from Iraq. They have relations with the US backed government there. He is not a monster and there is much more to this story than we've been told. We have in the US, tortured, exiled, waged wars that have killed hundreds of thousands to fight terrorism. Maybe he's had to be tough on terror too.

    • Jay Wye

      Assad was also helping Iran transfer weapons,explosives, and missiles to Hezbollah,to be used against Israel. Syria was complicit in destroying Lebanon's prosperity and self-government.

      • jkort1

        Actually as is usual in politics a lot of accusations have been made with no evidence, no trial, no defense, etc. Does WMD's in Iraq ring a bell? Now we know Saddam was in a high stakes poker bluff with Iran about those. What Assad has said is that he supports the causes of Hamas and Hezbollah in the political arena. He said it is true that weapons have gone across Syria to those groups because the borders of Syria, like any other country including the US, cannot be sealed and if and when we figure out how to get a sealed border to let him know how its done. Also, Bashar is not his father and what was done in Lebanon under his father is not something he did. He pulled the troops out of Lebanon.

    • defcon 4

      Um, the Syrian Jewish family I met at my ACT for America chapter meeting didn't share your enthusiasm for "secular" Syria honoring "all religious groups". Wafa Sultan didn't dare go back to Syria even when Assad WAS in power.

      • jkort1

        It's a matter of degrees. If your Syrian Jewish family thinks they'll be better off with a Muslim Brotherhood led government under Sharia – God bless them. For his part, Assad had just ok'd the rebuilding and reopening of 10 synagogues in Feb 2011. In March 2011 the you-know-what started hitting the fan. At the funeral of Pope John Paul the then Israeli President Moshe Katzov described Assad's warm and friendly hand shakes. Although Assad wants the Golan back big time there has never been a violation of the ceasefire agreement on that border. Also, he has spoken of sincere, human to human relations between Syrians and Israelis. I might be wrong, but those are more encouraging than someone who says the only good Jew is a dead one…and for the record, Assad is still in power.

        • defcon 4

          So Syria was better under the Assads because they only moderately persecuted their non-muslim population? Wow, what a ringing endorsement for "moderate" islam.

          • jkort1

            Absolutely. I wish I could give a ringing endorsement for my own country, the greatest democracy and strongest economy (maybe) in the world. If you are looking for perfection in the most complex geo-political arena on earth good luck. Here's a picture of the "moderate democracy" the rebels we are supporting are fighting for… Their leader is Moaz Khatib, a 3rd generation Sunni cleric who has taught Sharia at the university level. He calls Jews "enemies of God" and Shiites are "heretics". The areas of Syria already "liberated" are under Sharia law! Are you so naive that you think your Jewish friends will be allowed to live in the "New Syria"?

    • Indioviejo

      OK jkort, you are entitled to your opinion, but don't lie. Assad is a monster, the Syrians on both sides deserve the worst, and we should never forget how the Assad regime facilitated the transit of Islamic terrorist to the Iraqi battlefield, in order to kill American boys. I will never forget, and i wish them the worst.

      • jkort1

        It didn't take my reply to you so I'll try again. I am not a liar nor do I support a monster. I was glad to see Gaddafi go and noboby really liked Mubarak (Sadat was a tough act to follow). I have spent months and hundreds of hours researching what is going on and has been going on in Syria for the past 11 years and I stick to my story: Assad is not a monster, in fact, I think he's the one guy who makes sense in the Middle East. This supposed spontaneous revolution was nothing of the sort but a planned violent overthrow of Assad's secular Syria by the Muslim Brotherhood. How many Arab Spring countries will they be given before we figure this out? WE, the US and the west, are now the ones training and arming terrorists directly connected with al Qaeda, al Nusra and dozens of other jihadist groups.

        • Indio Viejo

          I agree that the Arab Spring was a an Islamic revolt to move these countries further into the terrorist camp. Quite a few voices expressed the thought before it came to pass, aided and abetted by the west. But I believe ALL Muslims are evil. I don't see Assad any different than his enemies. Assad makes sense just as Saddam made sense. Nonsense.

          • jkort1

            Well, I hear you but I know too many Muslims that I love dearly and respect to agree. There is as much of a spectrum in Islam as there is in any other large group of people. I'm a Christian so I don't agree with their religion but there are vast differences in integrity and good will amongst them. When I saw Assad in the RT interview this past September and then in several other interviews I was so impressed by him. Very solid, precise English, calm, mature, warm, knowledgeable, and I thought, "how can we not be able to work with this guy?" I still think that.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            And surah 9 is very clear that they all have a certain duty.

            9:5 Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

  • WhateverMan

    greenfield is very insecure and has been blocking my posts under his articles.
    So I will post here a response to his latest inconsistent diatribe related to the secret history of the USSR. Note that, unlike many posters, I never use profanities nor threaten people. Free speech is okay as long as we agree with it.

    • WhateverMan

      From Wikipedia:
      For Soviet foreign policy decision-makers, pragmatism took precedence over ideology. Without changing its official anti-zionist stance, from late 1944, until 1948 and even later, Joseph Stalin adopted a pro-zionist foreign policy, apparently believing that the new country would be socialist and would accelerate the decline of British influence in the Middle East.[1]

      The USSR began to support zionism at the UN during the 1947 UN Partition Plan debate. It preferred a jewish-Arab binational state. But if this proved impossible it indicated that it would support partition and a jewish state. On 14 May 1947, the Soviet ambassador Andrei Gromyko announced:

      "As we know, the aspirations of a considerable part of the jewish people are linked with the problem of Palestine and of its future administration. This fact scarcely requires proof…. During the last war, the jewish people underwent exceptional sorrow and suffering….
      The United Nations cannot and must not regard this situation with indifference, since this would be incompatible with the high principles proclaimed in its Charter….
      The fact that no Western European State has been able to ensure the defence of the elementary rights of the jewish people and to safeguard it against the violence of the fascist executioners explains the aspirations of the jews to establish their own State. It would be unjust not to take this into consideration and to deny the right of the jewish people to realize this aspiration."
      It followed this policy and gave support to the UN plan to partition the British Mandate of Palestine, which led to the founding of the State of israel.
      On May 17, 1948, three days after israel declared independence, the Soviet Union legally recognized it de jure, becoming the first country to grant de jure recognition to the jewish state.In addition to the diplomatic support, arms from Czechoslovakia, part of the Soviet bloc, were crucial to Israel in the 1948 Arab-israeli War

      • Selmainboca

        you just proved Lan's point you longwinded jerk

        • WhateverMan

          The Wu-Tang Clan /ˈwuːtæŋ/ is an American East Coast hip hop group from Staten Island, New York that consists of rappers RZA, GZA, Method Man, Raekwon, Ghostface Killah, Inspectah Deck, U-God, Masta Killa, and the late Ol' Dirty Bastard. They are frequently joined by fellow childhood friend Cappadonna, a quasi-member of the group. They were formed in (and are associated with) the New York City borough of Staten Island (U-God, Method Man, RZA, Ghostface Killah and Raekwon) (referred to by members as "Shaolin"), though some of their members are from Brooklyn (Ol Dirty Bastard, GZA and Masta Killa).

          They have introduced and launched the careers of affiliated artists and groups, often collectively known as the Wu-Tang Killa Bees,[1] and in 2008, About.com ranked them the No. 1 greatest hip hop group of all time, and stated "No weapon in hip-hop history can rival the chaotic cohesion of the Wu-Tang Clan. The Clan had so many characters, each with his own eccentricities. They were fearless in their approach. There's a good reason no group has been able to successfully recreate their sound. The crew spawned countless loosely associated acts. Their classic albums spawned classic albums."[2] Kris Ex of Rolling Stone called Wu-Tang Clan "the best rap group ever."[3] In 2004, NME hailed them as one of the most influential groups of the last ten years.[4]

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

      Thankfully he keeps you from wasting time.

      If you made sense you might be worth reading. You don't.
      Feel free to use your freedoms to say anything you want on your own site.

      • WhateverMan

        enjoy the Drakken's posts. They make a lot of sense…

        • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

          I do, and when I agree I thumb up his comments. He seems to get a lot of those.

          • WhateverMan

            Doesn't surprise me, Roger: especially his stuff about savages bloody kaffirs (Afrikaans for the "N" word).

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You can express how you disagree with him. But instead of just being a troll why not show that he's actually wrong factually?

          • WhateverMan

            Factually wrong on black kaffirs being savages? That would seem a very hard point to make for the likes of him and you, his number one fan, it seems.
            To quote from one of your earlier posts regarding THE DRAKKEN:
            “I do, and when I agree I thumb up his comments. He seems to get a lot of those“`.
            Keep on keepin` on!
            `

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            I like facts and those that use them.

            I don't think that includes you.
            If you want to pretend to be intellectual you should pretend to use them as well.

          • WhateverMan

            You like facts. It is clear, it is plain. That is why you like the intellectual powerhouse called THE DRAKKEN.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            And why I challenge your conclusions.

          • WhateverMan

            You will have to do better than that, because you have been failing miserably so far, Drakkenlover.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Do better based on what you say? I don't think so.

            I listen to people I respect, you haven't earned that.

          • WhateverMan

            Newsflash: I have better thing to do than earn your respect. Like peeling a potato. More intellectual stimulation that engaging you, Drakkenlover.

          • defcon 4

            I think the quran is about all the intellectual stimulation you can handle, that or perhaps Mein Kampf.

          • patriothere

            Roger 169p · 23 hours ago
            The Almighty gives life and it's His place to take it away. You can't show those Egyptians were perfect and didn't deserve it.

            Th account shows God gave them several times to do the right thing

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            And you still haven't said you can show it's actually wrong. You muslim friendly paid hacks get so offended so very easily.

            6 minutes ago @ Breitbart.com – Protests to greet Ahma… · 1 reply · 0 points
            I'm like jesus, I'm gonna chase you money changers out of the temple and out of town and of course out of this forum. Me and ohsoquiet and a few other REAL AMERICANS who are being PAID to be here like you Israeli PR men. I'm here to chase you filth out.

          • patriothere

            Killing innocent children is wrong you monster!

            Roger 169p · 23 hours ago
            The Almighty gives life and it's His place to take it away. You can't show those Egyptians were perfect and didn't deserve it.

            Th account shows God gave them several times to do the right thing

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            And that's why I oppose sharia and the barbarism of islam.

            The Almighty never demands suicide vests. He's God, so He can deal with that on His terms. Like He did with Chavez.

          • patriothere

            It's not god that killed chavez, it's people wishing death and ill will towards anybody that they disagree with.

            Pat robertson is going to hell when he dies. He wished death upon chavez.

            Roger 169p · 23 hours ago
            The Almighty gives life and it's His place to take it away. You can't show those Egyptians were perfect and didn't deserve it.

            The account shows God gave them several times to do the right thing

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Fine, don't explain why he was sticken with cancer.

          • patriothere

            Roger 169p · 23 hours ago
            The Almighty gives life and it's His place to take it away. You can't show those Egyptians were perfect and didn't deserve it.

            The account shows God gave them several times to do the right thing

            People get cancer. It's a disease.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Yes, and God has a plan that understands the timing and scope.

          • Drakken

            Nonpatriot, you effing muzzys deserve everything you get and more, the day is coming where we infidels will give you what you so richly deserve.

          • EarlyBird

            "Nonpatriot, you effing muzzys deserve everything you get and more, the day is coming where we infidels will give you what you so richly deserve."

            I've never encountered someone dripping with so much rage and blood lust. You're a psychopath.

          • Drakken

            What's the matter muzbot? Don't like it when the infidel plays by your rules?

          • patriothere

            So How are you any better than the people you hate?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            How are you as good as the people not paid to post comments?

            6 minutes ago @ Breitbart.com – Protests to greet Ahma… · 1 reply · 0 points
            I'm like jesus, I'm gonna chase you money changers out of the temple and out of town and of course out of this forum. Me and ohsoquiet and a few other REAL AMERICANS who are being PAID to be here like you Israeli PR men. I'm here to chase you filth out.

          • defcon 4

            LOL, yeah muhamMAD, the most holey man in islam was just a self effacing pacifist wasn't he Ahmed?

          • patriothere

            Roger 169p · 23 hours ago
            The Almighty gives life and it's His place to take it away. You can't show those Egyptians were perfect and didn't deserve it.

            The account shows God gave them several times to do the right thing

            As long as you don't believe in that quote you should be alright.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Why not, it makes perfect sense.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            And do you agree or not with the actual comment?

            Since you've reposted it so many times I wonder if maybe you agree and are just afraid to say so.

          • patriothere

            I am against it just like I am against you. I hate people that kill children. I hate the act of killing children. I hate anybody that would worship a "god" that demands the killing of children. I hate any "god" that would kill children.

            That means I hate your god and you.

            Roger 169p · 23 hours ago
            The Almighty gives life and it's His place to take it away. You can't show those Egyptians were perfect and didn't deserve it.

            Th account shows God gave them several times to do the right thing

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Then you must really be against sharia.
            How many car bombs did Christ demand?

          • patriothere

            christs ancestors made the corleone family look like boy scouts.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            And Aisha may have said the same about mohammed.

          • patriothere

            But she didn't. So what was your point again?

            Oh yeah this was your point.

            Roger 169p · 23 hours ago
            The Almighty gives life and it's His place to take it away. You can't show those Egyptians were perfect and didn't deserve it.

            The account shows God gave them several times to do the right thing

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            But she never had a chance, islam is barbaric and approves of child brides.

          • patriothere

            She didn't because she didn't agree with your lies and propaganda.

            Roger 169p · 23 hours ago
            The Almighty gives life and it's His place to take it away. You can't show those Egyptians were perfect and didn't deserve it.

            The account shows God gave them several times to do the right thing

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Neda was slaughtered, cut down without any trial, without anything other than her being in the wrong place at the wrong time. That's why islam is so barbaric. Quick justice is not really justice.

            That's why my comment is so spot on. God gives life, knows that life and understands when that life should be 'recalled' like He did in Egypt. The Almighty isn't a weak fake god and can do it Himself. He never requires suicide bombs.

          • Drakken

            We christians will be bringing back a time honored tradition against you devil worshipping muslims called the Crusades.

          • EarlyBird

            Hey Drakken, no matter how many times you play Dungeons and Dragons, that doesn't make you a warrior. Swinging num chucks in your mother's basement while you imaging slaying bad guys doesn't either.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            How ever many times you claim to be intelligent doesn't make you smart.

          • patriothere

            Love your enemies. Turn the other cheek.

          • defcon 4

            Says the islamofascist, who doesn't practice what he preaches.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Isn't it a coincidence they demand that just before the car bomb blows up a church?

          • Drakken

            Nonpatriot, the only god that demands the death of children is the false religion of evil called islam, and as a follower of that god forasken death cult I wish nothing but a pox upon your house. effing devil worshiper.

          • patriothere

            Nowhere in the Sharia or the quran or islam is the murder of children accepted.

            But god demanded the slaughter of egyptian boys. jews wished death on the romans, the babylonians, the egyptians, the persians. It wasn't their "god" that destroyed these great white nations, it was the jews and their subversive, corrosive nature that brought down all these nations.

          • Mary Sue

            God did not demand the slaughter of Egyptian boys. Pharaoh demanded the slaughter of Hebrew boys. God did in the Egyptian Firstborn (age nonspecific!) himself.

            What goes around comes around.

          • patriothere

            Yes he did. It was either god or the jews. Either way it is evil. Killing children is forbidden in the Sharia and in Islam. You can't say the same for christs ancestors.

            King herod even demanded the slaughter of little boys. King herod was jewish.

            God demanded the slaughter of children.

            Roger 169p · 23 hours ago
            The Almighty gives life and it's His place to take it away. You can't show those Egyptians were perfect and didn't deserve it.

            The account shows God gave them several times to do the right thing

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Killing is demanded, surah 9 is full of it.
            islamic activists murder constantly, so don't think you can pretend here and nobody will realize it.

          • patriothere

            God doesn't care if you are a woman or a child or whatever. All he cares about is enslaving the world and killing all enemies of the hebrews.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            The Almighty is nothing like your fake allah. So the lies mean nothing, even from a rented mouth.

          • Mary Sue

            so then I am to assume you are anti-abortion?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Yes, and it still has that ring of truth to it.

          • patriothere

            It is evil.

            Roger 169p · 23 hours ago
            The Almighty gives life and it's His place to take it away. You can't show those Egyptians were perfect and didn't deserve it.

            Th account shows God gave them several times to do the right thing

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            It's honest and you can't show islam is better with it's suicide bombs.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Still cutting and pasting like your life depends on it? How mean are your handlers?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Still more cut and paste. The hack paid troll just can't get new talking points.

          • Mary Sue

            why do you keep spamming that, you spammer?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            It's all he has. Even if he can't say why it's wrong or even why he disagrees with it.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You still love and agree with that don't you?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            And I still agree with that too.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            And you still didn't show God wanted anyone to use suicide bombs to do His dirty work like allah does.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            And that comment still is a great one!

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            If you're going to cut and paste, at least you are doing it with a great comment.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            And it still has the ring of truth to it.

          • patriothere

            Killing children is wrong. Obviously you are in favor of killing children. You're a monster.

            Roger 169p · 23 hours ago
            The Almighty gives life and it's His place to take it away. You can't show those Egyptians were perfect and didn't deserve it.

            The account shows God gave them several times to do the right thing

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Of course killing children is wrong. That's why I'm opposed to sharia. Car bombs in marketplaces? That's just barbaric.

          • patriothere

            You don't believe that.

            Roger 169p · 23 hours ago
            The Almighty gives life and it's His place to take it away. You can't show those Egyptians were perfect and didn't deserve it.

            The account shows God gave them several times to do the right thing

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Of course I do, read my comment. God the Almighty does His own dirty work, unlike your fake allah.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            It's still a great comment!

            Is your cut and paste button stuck again?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            And your point was that you agree with me, is that it?

          • patriothere

            Never.

            Roger 169p · 23 hours ago
            The Almighty gives life and it's His place to take it away. You can't show those Egyptians were perfect and didn't deserve it.

            The account shows God gave them several times to do the right thing

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Always, and did your handlers approve that new word?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            We know why you're.

            6 minutes ago @ Breitbart.com – Protests to greet Ahma… · 1 reply · 0 points
            I'm like jesus, I'm gonna chase you money changers out of the temple and out of town and of course out of this forum. Me and ohsoquiet and a few other REAL AMERICANS who are being PAID to be here like you Israeli PR men. I'm here to chase you filth out.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            And it's still a great comment.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            A great comment repeated by a paid troll that needs new handlers.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            And what was your point? Just that you bad iranian computer can't do better?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Your handlers really won't give you any more talking points, will they?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            So your handlers still won't give you any more talking points? Dude, what if they fired you and are letting you post comments now that they have no intention of paying you for?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            If they aren't giving you any more talking points, are you sure they're not easing you out the door as a paid troll?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Do you have handlers that are about to be fired? Is that they they're not giving you new material? Or are you the one about to be fired?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Still not worth any new material as a troll?

            That usually means you're about to be made redundant.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Still no new material to post? Your handlers must not think you're capable of using it right.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Is the rented mouth not able to get any new material?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            So once again you had nothing but one of my old quotes that actually makes sense.

            Are you handlers not paying you and this is your way of pushing them into giving you what you think they owe you?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Still the paid hack troll "Rented Mouth" that has nothing else?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Yes, how true. I'm glad I said it.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Do the cut and paste buttons get sticky and get stuck on cheap iranian computers? Or did you download free games at http://www.stuxnet.org/games and have issues develop?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Trying to divert attention from the multiple backgrounds from another muslim friendly troll?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Diverting attention from your agenda still?
            You're not fooling anyone.
            Just another paid 'rented mouth'.

            6 minutes ago @ Breitbart.com – Protests to greet Ahma… · 1 reply · 0 points
            I'm like jesus, I'm gonna chase you money changers out of the temple and out of town and of course out of this forum. Me and ohsoquiet and a few other REAL AMERICANS who are being PAID to be here like you Israeli PR men. I'm here to chase you filth out.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            The rented mouth must be upset over a pay cut, all this cut and paste can't be a good sign between you and your handlers.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            The rented mouth has nothing….

            So the cut and paste comes out.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            And did your handlers not like me saying that?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            And did your handlers not like my saying that?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            It still makes perfect sense, even if it offended your handlers.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            And your handlers sure did get you a heavy duty cut and paste button, didn't they?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Does that still offend your handlers?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Does that still bother your handlers?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Still irking your handlers?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Boy, you're making a killing off that comment, do you get paid every time you cut and paste it?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            An all powerful God doesn't require His followers to use suicide bombs.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Still upsetting your handlers?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Your handlers appear to be having a midol kind of day.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You should give me part of the money you make posting that comment.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Still the rented mouth, still trolling, still working for lame handlers.

            Thats' patriot!

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Still upsetting your muslim sensibilities?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Still an angry rented mouth. Or a rented mouth with angry handlers… same thing really.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Still dealing with angry handlers?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You must really be scared of your cranky handlers to repeat yourself this many times!

          • patriothere

            Your god demands the murder of children.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Of course not, I don't worship allah.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            The poor rented mouth must have writers cramps repeating himself this often…

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Yes, and you can't show where it's wrong either.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Still just a cheap rented mouth?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Boy your handlers must be punishing you today with all the repeats you've had to post.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            They can't come up with any new material yet?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Covering for alinsky now?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Yes, the Almighty did.

            Even if you don't like it, or if your handlers don't like it.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            The cranky rented mouth is still busy with cut and pasting.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            I should have made it a longer comment, if you get paid by the word you troll here it would have cost your handlers a chunk of change.

          • patriothere

            They have a lot of jews living in Iran.

            Roger 169p · 23 hours ago
            The Almighty gives life and it's His place to take it away. You can't show those Egyptians were perfect and didn't deserve it.

            The account shows God gave them several times to do the right thing

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Ah, the Jizya tax.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Still upset that the Almighty is powerful enough to do that?

            allah isn't.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Yes, a powerful God. Sigh… you muslims wouldn't know about that.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            and allah has prophets that force 6 year olds into marrying him.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Still just the cheap rented mouth?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Still doing the cut and paste? It's probably all a troll your pay grade is allowed.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            More mindless repeats.The quote deserves better than a troll like you quoting it.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            More mindless repeats, but then coming from a mindless troll I'm not totally shocked.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Still mindless, just like your handlers want you.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            A rented mouth must be boring work.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Still the mindless rented mouth. Your handlers really should get your fresh material.If there is such stuff in all of Iran.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            more mindless repeats?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            More mindless repeats? Why am I not surprised?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Still mindless.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Was there ever a time when you said to yourself “I'll do quality propaganda!”

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Still not up to real comments?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Ah, the non comment comment.Just cut and paste.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Still enjoying that comment?

            When you admit that the Almighty is in control then you don't need to use car bombs or attack market places.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Still the hack paid troll just trying to earn a paycheck?

            6 minutes ago @ Breitbart.com – Protests to greet Ahma… · 1 reply · 0 points
            I'm like jesus, I'm gonna chase you money changers out of the temple and out of town and of course out of this forum. Me and ohsoquiet and a few other REAL AMERICANS who are being PAID to be here like you Israeli PR men. I'm here to chase you filth out.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            And did you notice God doesn't demand suicide bombs like sharia does?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Cut and paste is all you can do. How sad, your handlers must be very disappointed with you.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Just more cut and paste. And it's still a great comment.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Great quote, wasn't it?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Great quote!

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            Roger is always copying and pasting my quotes. I would respond "great quote"

            Guess what, now roger always says "great quote" after you quote him.

            the guy just repeats, steals other people's words. He is like a parrot with no original thought,.

            computers have more imagination.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            And have you kept fantasizing about chopping my head off?

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            Of course. Why do you ask?

            No nice quote from my past to post?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            It does expose your muslim loyal thinking.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            Where's my "nice quote?"

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            I'm sure you'll make something up.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            That you will steal and use, like saying ":nice quote."

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            From the troll who bragged about this?
            ejdulis replied to your comment on Scratch that, trying Intense Debate. / Politics, Guns & Beer:

            "I see others have taken my idea of impersonating you and others like Cowboy logic and winsorwhore.

            I am glad to have made such a great contrbution to the destruction of this site."

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            nice quote.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You realize that people are reasonable when they hate you.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            Stealing others words is not reasonable. It's a lack of wit and creative wordsmith.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Is it too hot in the kitchen for you to play here with the big boys?

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            Only you like playing with boys. And it's not too hot, so don't ask me to take off my clothes.

            And remember, stealing is wrong.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            A sexually deviant stalker that wants to put my head in a basket isn't exactly the kind of person I discuss things with.You're a troll, and everything you say is wrong.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            Did they take away your computer privileges, or are you just depressed because Wee has been gone a week, enjoying his life with his wife and family?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Let me repeat, you're a sexually deviant stalker troll that wants to collect my head in a basket. You're not someone I discuss things with.

            Go pretend on twitter that you're someone sane, but leave me out of it.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            I am standing up for my values.

            Stop replying to me, it's just that easy.

            Also, stop stealing from me.

            also, start owning your twitter page or take it down.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You're pathetic, no wonder Navy laughs at you, and everyone mocks you so much. You're just a coward that can't face any person honestly without hiding in the shadows.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            Your girlfriend is the shadows? Or do you have a girlfriend? Is that Joyce in the picture?

            She sure does seem to make a lot of sense in the chaos of that Dairy Queen crap dinner.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            And why would I discuss anything with a sexually deviant stalker who wants to collect my head in a basket?

            7 hours ago @ Big Government – Occupy-Linked Hacker G… · 0 replies · 0 points
            Not chop, chop, just one single blade coming down fast.

            Your head will still be alive while it is in the basket, but you could never really be anymore brain dead than you are now..

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            You discuss everything else, why only quiet about saying you have a girlfriend?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Let's just for a moment pretend I've not explained this more than you deserve.

            Why are you trolling facebook and using photo's from my page on your profile pic?

            Isn't that a sign of an unhealthy stalking tendency?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Still a great quote, thanks for bringing it back up!

          • Mary Sue

            Kaffir is Muslim for INFIDEL. The Afrikaners learned it from the Muslims and appropriated it into "n***er".

    • Lan Astaslem

      I'm sure he blocks them because they are the boring rants of a pathetic Jew hating clown. Get lost you dhimmi dimwit!

    • Alinsky Hero USA
  • WhateverMan

    For Soviet foreign policy decision-makers, pragmatism took precedence over ideology. Without changing its official anti-Zionist stance, from late 1944, until 1948 and even later, Joseph Stalin adopted a pro-Zionist foreign policy, apparently believing that the new country would be socialist and would accelerate the decline of British influence in the Middle East.[1]

    • defcon 4

      Interesting if true. I had always wondered why the USSR supported the formation of the state of Israel.

  • Winston

    Damascus, one day, will be completely destroyed and uninhabitable… Bible prophecy. Read this: http://www.alphanewsdaily.com/Nations%20Syria.htm

    • WhateverMan

      I have news for you, the whole planet will be completely destroyed and uninhabitable one day.

      • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

        Yes, but before that happens the Bible says Damascus is going to be toast.

        If you don't agree or recognize the Bible that's one thing. Just say so. But to just blurt out your personal conclusions without support is very 'bad debate'.

        • WhateverMan

          The fact that the Earth will become inhospitable is not a matter of personal conclusion but of scientific inevitability.
          Let me propose a link from the (Muslim friendly) NASA to illustrate my point: http://image.gsfc.nasa.gov/poetry/venus/q79.html

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            And his point was different entirely, but your muslim friendly mindset won't discuss anything outside of that.

      • Drakken

        Us infidels will be walking into and reclaiming the Hagia Sofia soon enough as well.

        • WhateverMan

          Are you going in with your Elf and Dwarf allies, Frodo Baggins? With that be on your way to Mordor?
          WE HATES HOBBITSES! WE HATES THEM! WE HATES THEM!!!

          • defcon 4

            Interesting that this particular quote got your panties in a bunch.

  • WhateverMan

    I dedicate this quote from Ben-Gurion to all you zionists out there, especially you, zion“truth“:
    “ 6

    "I don't understand your optimism," Ben-Gurion declared. "Why should the Arabs make peace? If I were an Arab leader I would never make terms with Israel. That is natural: we have taken their country. Sure, God promised it to us, but what does that matter to them? Our God is not theirs. We come from Israel, it's true, but two thousand years ago, and what is that to them? There has been antisemitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They only see one thing: we have come here and stolen their country. Why should they accept that? They may perhaps forget in one or two generations' time, but for the moment there is no chance. So, it's simple: we have to stay strong and maintain a powerful army. Our whole policy is there. Otherwise the Arabs will wipe us out.“

    • UCSPanther

      Wanna destroy Israel?

      It's your funeral, pal.

      • WhateverMan

        This was a quote from Ben-Gurion, not me, “pal“. What do you think about it though? I am curious.

        • george bush sr.

          They only see one thing …. They can see things one way we see things another

    • defcon 4

      70 years of unending islamofascist terrorism against Israel only serve to make Ben-Gurion's words ring truer than ever today. As does the ethnic cleansing of nearly a million Jews from ALL the muslime states of the Mid-East and N. Africa.

      • EarlyBird

        Idiot,

        The Palestinian-Israeli conflict has been a classic fight over land and sovereignity, and has only had Islamist and Ultra Orthodox Jewish overtones in about the past 20 or so years, when Hezbollah and Hamas got into the game. Hamas especially was a bit player only until fairly recently.

        When you interview Palestinians about what their gripes are with Israel, its about land having been stolen, and being pushed into land without rights, treated like scum, checkpoints, etc. They do not rant about allah Big Mo, etc.

        The Israel Firsters and their useful right wing, bigoted, knuckle dragging tools like you, who don't dare actually reading history and facts which might conflict with your stereotypes, have conflated Islamist terror movements with the Palestinian resistance.

        • EarlyBird

          About the Ultra-Orthodox, the illegal settlers encroaching further onto stolen land, the same ones who shoot at Palestinian children on their way to school, shoot at Palestinians' goats and water tanks, are, just like their radical fundamentalist Islamist terrorist enemies, doing it in the name of God. They are just less terrible terrorists, but terrorists just the same.

          • defcon 4

            "Stolen land" according to you and the rest of the islamofascists… Just because the islamofascist Turks stole the land from the remnants of the Byzantine empire, who in turn stole it from the Jewish people, doesn't in any way make them the rightful owners of the land, but the rightful owners are back now.

          • EarlyBird

            Do you realize, idiot, that you are making the very same arguments that La Raza makes when it says the US should "give back" the Southwestern United States to its "rightful" owners, Mexicans? It's like me as an Irish-American demanding the land that was taken from my ancestors by British. It's that stupid.

            If you want to play that game with Israel, you're opening up a big can of worms. You'll be having the Cherokee come in and take away your double wide and yard filled with rusted cars.

            I am for Israel to exist and flourish. But the fact is that European Jews, who had zero relationship to the Middle East, pushed off people from their lands. Oh, and the Earth is round.

            Now go away.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            La Raza doesn't have a temple mount and Rachel's tomb dating them in the land for 4 thousand years.

            Want to try again?

            Or just go away, that works too.

          • Snorbak

            Stolen land, what a crock, Israel was given to the Jew's by the UN under the partition plan that the Arabs rejected. The Jew's accepted the plan whilst the Arabs rejected it so the Jew's declared independence on the land given to them by the UN. Its hardly Israels fault that the combined armies of Syria, Jordan, Lebanon, Egypt & Iraq then attacked & lost. You may also note that in 1948, Egypt annexed Gaza & Jordan annexed Judea & Samaria (West Bank) & there was no complaint to the UN whilst these same areas were under foreign annexation!

            Why don't you complain about Jordan stealing "Palestinian" land East of the Jordan river when they declared independence? What about the land given to Syria, Lebanon & Iraq, just like Jordan & Israel, countries created out of the French & British mandates following WW1? Should we reverse past decisions & give all these lands back to Turkey? As another poster states, maybe go back even further the Byzantine Empire or further to the Roman Empire. Uh oh that wont do cause that takes us back 2000 years to………ISRAEL.

        • Drakken

          The lesson to you sub human savage muslims is, don't start wars and lose and then cry about it later, you muzzys deserve everything you get and more. Need a tissue for your muzzy brothers ? Oh it is so much fun to see your leftist diatribe with the race and bigot card thrown in for good measure, by the way, if your like those fakestinians so muck, why don't you put your money where you jihadist loving mouth is and join them? Fakestinian jihadist started muslim terrorism dumbazz.

          • WhateverMan

            Sub human? I believe the word was used rather liberally by the Nazis. In German, it would be Untermensh. You just substituted one semite with another one but kept the ideology, I see
            My, my, my, Baby Breivik…!

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            What is it with you trolls that you have to hide behind cute little misleading names?

          • defcon 4

            Um, I believe the Arabic word for the unbeliever, kufr, also has negative connotations along the lines of untermensch, but then again, you don't see any problem w/that do you?

        • defcon 4

          Um the Egyptian scuzzlums were yelling 'Allah Ackbar' as they crossed the Suez Canal in '73'. Arafat was the spiritual inheritor of the Grand Mufti's islamic Jew hate.
          The founding charter of Hamas is chock full of the usual casual islamic Jew hate.

    • Neils60

      WhateverMan, As you fully well know, but deliberately failed to disclose here, you're quotes of Ben-Gurion were not what he deemed as Israel's misdeeds, he was explaining how the Arab states perceived the state of Israel. He had hoped, with the passage of time and the change of generations, it would improve. He wasn't vilifying Israel's creation or its treatment of its Arab population. That appears your job, and you seem to relish it.

      • WhateverMan

        The early zionists, unlike you, were very honest about their designs on the land and the people inhabiting them. You purposely extrapolate to make his statement mean the opposite of what he is succintely expressing. You have idealized the creation of israel, but as BG says it was pure theft. And the only way that theft can be enforced is by force
        Nowdays, zionist want to make this conflict part of a clash of civilizations, but BG knew then it wasn't so.

        • Neils60

          Not true, Mr. Ben-Gurion was quoted as to how the Arabs perceived the state of Israel, not how he perceived the state.
          By the way, check with public middle/high school teachers in your area, and ask how many of them accept his/her students utilizing the Wikipedia as their singular source for information regarding important issues? I already know their collective answer, but it would behoove you to find out for yourself.

          • WhateverMan

            I don't hang around middle/high schools like you do, apparently, so I will take your word for it…
            The quote above was from Nahum Goldman's Memoirs. It was following a conversation he had with Ben-Gurion at the latter's house. He knew him well, I would be so bold as saying better than you knew Ben-Gurion, and his conclusion differs rather sharply from yours:

            "Ben Gurion's acknowledgment that Palestinians were stolen of their land: That was Ben Gurion all over: he had told me that so as to show how well he knew in his heart that Israel could not exist without peace with the Arabs, but his stubborn, aggressive, unbending character prevented him from following what his own intelligence told him. The best proof of that is that having lost his grip on power his intelligence reasserted itself; he even became a 'Goldmannite', declaring that all the occupied territories except Jerusalem should be restored." [pp. 99-100]

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            As if you can be trusted on it.

        • Drakken

          You muzzys lost the land in war you started, I just can't wait until Israel says enough is enough and gives Gaza a little Shermans march to the sea, it will be a nice reminder to the muzbots in the west bank to mind their manners. Happy nakba unter mensch!

          • WhateverMan

            Jawhol, Gruppenführer Drakken!

          • Ghostwriter

            You probably would have supported the Nazis back in the day,wouldn't you,WhateverMan?

  • defcon 4

    I'd think it would be a good idea for Israel to re-militarize the Golan Heights before more Israeli soldiers have to die over land already captured from a country which has repeatedly attacked Israel w/o provocation.

  • Drakken

    Well defcon 4, the one thing the arabs can always be depended upon to do is, keep doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result. We on the other hand keep thinking that the arabs won't do it, hence getting caught with our pants down. You can bet your last dollar that the arabs will attack in the Golan and it will be in conjuction with hezzbollah striking with rocket fire from Lebanon.

    • WhateverMan

      And getting caught with your pants down is a something you always look forward to, eh, Breivik jr…

      • Drakken

        The funny thing is, your uncle dad probably had you after man/boy love thursday after noon head banging practice. It is a turkish tradition don't ya know, buggered boy.

    • EarlyBird

      Chill out, Drak. The IDF can smash any meddling in the Golan Heights, any assault by Egypt (which will not happen), any trouble with Hezbollah, etc.

      We know this. Lets stop with the bull $hi* about freaking out over poor lil' beset Israel. It's the 800 lb nuclear armed hegemon. It keeps playing the poor pitiful me card, and trying to drag the US into it. It's tiring.

      • Drakken

        The muslims are going to drag us into it whether we like it or not, I agree with you that Israel can handle it, but I am concerened that the do gooders here in the west won't let Israel finish it.

        • EarlyBird

          It could be a very, very good thing of the Syrian rabble overplayed their hand and came into the Golan Heights. Israel could – and should – obliterate them. If these Islamist types want to pretend to be a real, conventional army, they'll lose that game badly.

          The fact that international opinion of Israel is as low as it can get actually just frees Israel to do what it needs to do. The worse than useless people at the UN "Security" Council will make grave speeches, but that's about it.

      • defcon 4

        Yeah all the genocidal aspirations of the various "leaders" in the Islamic world towards Israel just aren't worth worrying about are they? Hey, I'll bet that's what the Turks told the Armenian and Assyrian Christians when they slaughtered them isn't it?

        • EarlyBird

          Aspirations without abilities mean nothing. Your aspirations to be a nude dancer at a gay club, for instance, mean nothing because you are ugly and can't dance.

          Similarly, the Islamists can scream "death to Israel!" all day, but they don't have the means, and Israel is by far the greatest superpower in the Middle East, all with the backing of the US behind it.

  • WhateverMan

    Drakken,
    Since you love to use the term Subhuman a lot, here is some background:
    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Untermensch (German for under man, sub-man, sub-human; plural: Untermenschen) is a term that became infamous when the Nazi racial ideology used it to describe "inferior people", especially "the masses from the East," that is Jews, Gypsies, and Slavic peoples including Poles, Serbs, Belarusians, Russians and Rusyns.[citation needed]

    ACHTUNG, BABY!

    • defcon 4

      Any comment on the negative connotations of the Arabic words Abd or kufr in your magic box of islamofascist lies?

      • WhateverMan

        Abd means servant or slave. It has both positive and negative connotations. The Abdallah means servant of Allah. It also designates a slave and has the same meaning as the English word.
        Kafir means simply an unbeliever. It used towards non-muslim as well as between Muslims when in conflict. Closest thing I can compare it too is the word goy.
        What was the point of the question again?

        • defcon 4

          So if I call a muzzie like you a kafir it isn't an insult eh?

    • Drakken

      Us European western civilizational types use it to describe you 3rd world types that wish to drag us back to the cesspools you untermensch came from. Being that I am German/Austrian I do know what it bloody well means moron, perhaps if you actually read something other than wikipedia you actually might learn something, but being the fact your a result of our current education system, I wouldn't bet on it.

      • WhateverMan

        No, Breivik Jr, I checked. It was coined first by an American author Lothrop Stoddard. The Nazis got it from a German translation of his book. It was used exclusively to describe DIE JUDEN, as basically wanting to drag you Aryans back to the cesspools untermensch came from. (your words).
        So, you're Austrian, like a certain someone (hint, hint) and you use a Nazi term to describe jews, but you used to describe Arab/Muslims. Understandable: you mentioned in an earlier post about being caught with you pants down by some Turks.
        Why don't you write a memoir, called "Mein losing Kampf mit meiner Sexuality"

        • defcon 4

          And muslimes have the greatest respect for Jews don't they mendacious clown?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            That's why they have so many Jews living well in Saudi Arabia.

    • Ghostwriter

      And,that's how you've been acting ever since you came here,WhateverMan. Like a subhuman.

      • WhateverMan

        Since Germans used that term to describe jews, I am assuming you are saying that I am acting like a jew?

        • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

          No, he means you're acting sub human.

        • Ghostwriter

          More like you've been acting like a ape,which is probably how you see Jews,WhateverMan.

  • cali

    Watch for a 'false flag' regarding obama's visit. He needs to shore up his lagging poll numbers; nothing better than some 'creating symphacy'.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    A powerful God can do things like that, and not demand his followers use car bombs in marketplaces.