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		<title>By: Kizi Love</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2014 08:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi, great, thank you for sharing]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, great, thank you for sharing</p>
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		<title>By: Kizi 2</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2014 15:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very interesting thanks. I believe there&#039;s even more that could be on there! Keep it up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting thanks. I believe there&#8217;s even more that could be on there! Keep it up.</p>
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		<title>By: Friv</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jan 2014 02:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is a good news, or I very like it, thank you very much]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a good news, or I very like it, thank you very much</p>
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		<title>By: friv games</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jan 2014 13:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[thanks. Muslimes]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks. Muslimes</p>
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		<title>By: Friv 2 Friv 4</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jan 2014 14:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That was a wonderful exercise in moral equivalence and national suicide if useful leftist idiots like you get their way. like.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was a wonderful exercise in moral equivalence and national suicide if useful leftist idiots like you get their way. like.</p>
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		<title>By: kizi 2</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Dec 2013 04:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very informative article thanks for the posted and I&#039;ll be back for another.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very informative article thanks for the posted and I&#8217;ll be back for another.</p>
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		<title>By: friv</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Dec 2013 04:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No condemnation of these acts was forthcoming from any Palestinian Authority official, including President Mahmoud Abbas—this at a time when Israel is engaged in yet another round of “peace talks” with the PA that Secretary of State John Kerry heavily pressured both sides to launch. I think peace talks]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No condemnation of these acts was forthcoming from any Palestinian Authority official, including President Mahmoud Abbas—this at a time when Israel is engaged in yet another round of “peace talks” with the PA that Secretary of State John Kerry heavily pressured both sides to launch. I think peace talks</p>
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		<title>By: friv</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Dec 2013 04:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I really appreciate this article. Thanks for nice article.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really appreciate this article. Thanks for nice article.</p>
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		<title>By: LarryConners</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Oct 2013 16:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot; It&#039;s not deranged to support him in preaching to Muslims. It&#039;s deranged in promoting his ideas as already orthodox or mainstream.&quot;...

I do promote his ideas, however I&#039;ve never claimed them as mainstream or orthodox...Quite the opposite actually, but I do insist that dramatic change of the fundamental precepts of an archaic Islam lies within the culture itself...If we deny that and fail to encourage such brave and forward thinking Muslims then we are guilty of a self-fulfilling prophesy: Muslims cannot change, will not change, do not assimilate with other cultures, are hopelessly mired in the 12th century, therefore they must be removed from the planet...

Personally, I&#039;m not ready to forfeit my humanity to such thinking...Look, I see radical Islam as a threat to Western civilization, its values and morality, but are those values and moralities so weak that they can be overcome by religious zealots living in caves and dodging drone attacks every day..? I don&#039;t think so...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; It&#8217;s not deranged to support him in preaching to Muslims. It&#8217;s deranged in promoting his ideas as already orthodox or mainstream.&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>I do promote his ideas, however I&#8217;ve never claimed them as mainstream or orthodox&#8230;Quite the opposite actually, but I do insist that dramatic change of the fundamental precepts of an archaic Islam lies within the culture itself&#8230;If we deny that and fail to encourage such brave and forward thinking Muslims then we are guilty of a self-fulfilling prophesy: Muslims cannot change, will not change, do not assimilate with other cultures, are hopelessly mired in the 12th century, therefore they must be removed from the planet&#8230;</p>
<p>Personally, I&#8217;m not ready to forfeit my humanity to such thinking&#8230;Look, I see radical Islam as a threat to Western civilization, its values and morality, but are those values and moralities so weak that they can be overcome by religious zealots living in caves and dodging drone attacks every day..? I don&#8217;t think so&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Oct 2013 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Calling out lies is not &quot;being afraid.&quot; It actually takes a lot more courage to do that than it does to appease people and then claim you&#039;re doing it because you are not afraid.


I&#039;m not speaking about you personally but generally about the people whose ideas resonate with you.


And the MSM doesn&#039;t think. It propagates. It propagates the ideas promoted by leftists who appease rather than deal with enemies realistically.


If I see a dragon and run from it, I&#039;m not going to go and tell everyone that they&#039;re the ones that are scared. I&#039;m running because I&#039;m not afraid to let it live?



OK. Sure.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Calling out lies is not &#8220;being afraid.&#8221; It actually takes a lot more courage to do that than it does to appease people and then claim you&#8217;re doing it because you are not afraid.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not speaking about you personally but generally about the people whose ideas resonate with you.</p>
<p>And the MSM doesn&#8217;t think. It propagates. It propagates the ideas promoted by leftists who appease rather than deal with enemies realistically.</p>
<p>If I see a dragon and run from it, I&#8217;m not going to go and tell everyone that they&#8217;re the ones that are scared. I&#8217;m running because I&#8217;m not afraid to let it live?</p>
<p>OK. Sure.</p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Oct 2013 23:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Deranged ideas like supporting and encouraging reformist Muslims like Dr. Jasser ?&quot;



It&#039;s not deranged to support him in preaching to Muslims. It&#039;s deranged in promoting his ideas as already orthodox or mainstream.


The left uses delusion by talking about their dreams as if they&#039;ve already worked it out and simply need to eliminate those pesky conservatives (who can perform scary accounting tasks that always end in tears). Likewise pretending that it&#039;s &quot;Islam-o-phobia&quot; that is leading to conflict is even more deluded.


If you want to eliminate Islam-o-phobia you must eliminate the rational reasons for the fear. Right now it&#039;s about the same as if you had called people Nazi-phobes in 1943.


Going around talking about Islam as if Dr. Jasser is winning the revolution provides cover for stealth jihad organizations like the Muslim Brotherhood and all of the Wahhabi movements, which are not as different from one another as you might think. They have different players and tactics. The rest is more or less the same as far as any non-Muslim is concerned.


It&#039;s fine to speak optimistically to Muslims about that if you want them to envision a world without coercive Islam (think about that, but not too hard) but if you want to talk about Dr. Jasser at least acknowledge realistically what he&#039;s facing when you speak to non-Muslims. Let me put it to you this way; he&#039;d be dead for a long time if he lived in the middle east. He&#039;s lucky to be alive even now, but in the West many jihadis see him as useful because of what I&#039;ve explained about providing cover. They consider him a useful idiot.


As much as he seems like a great person...I can&#039;t think of any other Muslim that thinks and talks like he does.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Deranged ideas like supporting and encouraging reformist Muslims like Dr. Jasser ?&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not deranged to support him in preaching to Muslims. It&#8217;s deranged in promoting his ideas as already orthodox or mainstream.</p>
<p>The left uses delusion by talking about their dreams as if they&#8217;ve already worked it out and simply need to eliminate those pesky conservatives (who can perform scary accounting tasks that always end in tears). Likewise pretending that it&#8217;s &#8220;Islam-o-phobia&#8221; that is leading to conflict is even more deluded.</p>
<p>If you want to eliminate Islam-o-phobia you must eliminate the rational reasons for the fear. Right now it&#8217;s about the same as if you had called people Nazi-phobes in 1943.</p>
<p>Going around talking about Islam as if Dr. Jasser is winning the revolution provides cover for stealth jihad organizations like the Muslim Brotherhood and all of the Wahhabi movements, which are not as different from one another as you might think. They have different players and tactics. The rest is more or less the same as far as any non-Muslim is concerned.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s fine to speak optimistically to Muslims about that if you want them to envision a world without coercive Islam (think about that, but not too hard) but if you want to talk about Dr. Jasser at least acknowledge realistically what he&#8217;s facing when you speak to non-Muslims. Let me put it to you this way; he&#8217;d be dead for a long time if he lived in the middle east. He&#8217;s lucky to be alive even now, but in the West many jihadis see him as useful because of what I&#8217;ve explained about providing cover. They consider him a useful idiot.</p>
<p>As much as he seems like a great person&#8230;I can&#8217;t think of any other Muslim that thinks and talks like he does.</p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Oct 2013 23:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Holy War &quot;, a term that does not exist in the Qur&#039;an but is blatantly used by neo-conservatives and propagated by the MSM to instill fear in LIV&#039;s&quot;

Um, first of all we&#039;re not attempting to directly translate the koran. We&#039;re discussing the implications of Islamic texts and ideology. The implication of jihad is perpetual &quot;holy war&quot; until sharia reigns throughout the globe.

The intent is not to deceive anyone. You&#039;ve been deceived yourself. As far as the West or any non-Muslim is concerned, jihad to a pious Muslim means holy war preparation and or prosecution, depending on what seems profitable for Islam under the circumstances.

&quot; should refer to radical Muslims, not Muslims in general...&quot;

I guess you&#039;re going to apply the theory that most Muslims are not interested in forcing sharia on non-Muslims. Therefore those Muslims are not pious. Which are mainstream?

It actually doesn&#039;t matter as much as people think because of what I explained a few days ago. The vast majority of Muslims contribute to jihad, to &quot;holy war&quot; against the non-Muslims when they give to Islamic charities, use Islamic financial institutions and attend mosques that comply with mainstream sharia.

There are certainly degrees of guilt and degrees of hostility among various individuals and groups, but what concerns us is the ability of hostile leaders to marshal resources. Telling us that only X are radical is roughly equivalent to informing us that only X percent of a given population is currently employed by a certain military organization. You don&#039;t need an entire population actively carrying weapons and speaking belligerently to have that population fully supporting belligerence.

Which is not to say it&#039;s entire populations. Just as we have peace movements, they have their peaceniks I suppose.

The bottom line is that most Muslims are collectivists that see themselves as members of the Islamic nation rather than as citizens of any sovereign. Many will submit to Islamic sovereigns but that&#039;s not helpful for us in the West. And then we have people that behave in our nations as loyal &quot;citizens&quot; to an enemy &quot;Islamic nation.&quot; Just as you have &quot;peaceful&quot; factory workers that go off to work making weapons and donating to the war effort with part of their salary, so you have &quot;peaceful&quot; Muslims in our nations that still support war and belligerence against our national sovereignty.

Because Islam is totalitarian, and it poses as a mere religion in order to hide it&#039;s war preparations. And it&#039;s transnational, so Muslims are used to posing as loyal citizens or subjects in order to assist in these stealth aspects of the jihad. Even if they don&#039;t consciously realize how offensive it is to Westerners, they&#039;re raised to feel this is normal loyalty. And it is for that culture.

&quot;Jihad to most Muslims could simply mean making a determined effort to get along with one&#039;s mother-in-law.&quot;



Um, no. Maybe a few new age Muslims think like that. Almost none. If they&#039;re detached from the jihad to bring Islam to the world, they&#039;re detached from the fundamentals of their religion. At most they think some times of that is part of their &quot;jihad&quot; but it&#039;s really laughable for a number of reasons that are probably not worth getting in to now.


But if you support Dr. Jasser and the wishful thinking he promotes then I understand where you get your hopes from. Let him preach to Muslims and we&#039;ll be convinced when we see the evidence of his pro-Western results.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Holy War &#8220;, a term that does not exist in the Qur&#8217;an but is blatantly used by neo-conservatives and propagated by the MSM to instill fear in LIV&#8217;s&#8221;</p>
<p>Um, first of all we&#8217;re not attempting to directly translate the koran. We&#8217;re discussing the implications of Islamic texts and ideology. The implication of jihad is perpetual &#8220;holy war&#8221; until sharia reigns throughout the globe.</p>
<p>The intent is not to deceive anyone. You&#8217;ve been deceived yourself. As far as the West or any non-Muslim is concerned, jihad to a pious Muslim means holy war preparation and or prosecution, depending on what seems profitable for Islam under the circumstances.</p>
<p>&#8221; should refer to radical Muslims, not Muslims in general&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>I guess you&#8217;re going to apply the theory that most Muslims are not interested in forcing sharia on non-Muslims. Therefore those Muslims are not pious. Which are mainstream?</p>
<p>It actually doesn&#8217;t matter as much as people think because of what I explained a few days ago. The vast majority of Muslims contribute to jihad, to &#8220;holy war&#8221; against the non-Muslims when they give to Islamic charities, use Islamic financial institutions and attend mosques that comply with mainstream sharia.</p>
<p>There are certainly degrees of guilt and degrees of hostility among various individuals and groups, but what concerns us is the ability of hostile leaders to marshal resources. Telling us that only X are radical is roughly equivalent to informing us that only X percent of a given population is currently employed by a certain military organization. You don&#8217;t need an entire population actively carrying weapons and speaking belligerently to have that population fully supporting belligerence.</p>
<p>Which is not to say it&#8217;s entire populations. Just as we have peace movements, they have their peaceniks I suppose.</p>
<p>The bottom line is that most Muslims are collectivists that see themselves as members of the Islamic nation rather than as citizens of any sovereign. Many will submit to Islamic sovereigns but that&#8217;s not helpful for us in the West. And then we have people that behave in our nations as loyal &#8220;citizens&#8221; to an enemy &#8220;Islamic nation.&#8221; Just as you have &#8220;peaceful&#8221; factory workers that go off to work making weapons and donating to the war effort with part of their salary, so you have &#8220;peaceful&#8221; Muslims in our nations that still support war and belligerence against our national sovereignty.</p>
<p>Because Islam is totalitarian, and it poses as a mere religion in order to hide it&#8217;s war preparations. And it&#8217;s transnational, so Muslims are used to posing as loyal citizens or subjects in order to assist in these stealth aspects of the jihad. Even if they don&#8217;t consciously realize how offensive it is to Westerners, they&#8217;re raised to feel this is normal loyalty. And it is for that culture.</p>
<p>&#8220;Jihad to most Muslims could simply mean making a determined effort to get along with one&#8217;s mother-in-law.&#8221;</p>
<p>Um, no. Maybe a few new age Muslims think like that. Almost none. If they&#8217;re detached from the jihad to bring Islam to the world, they&#8217;re detached from the fundamentals of their religion. At most they think some times of that is part of their &#8220;jihad&#8221; but it&#8217;s really laughable for a number of reasons that are probably not worth getting in to now.</p>
<p>But if you support Dr. Jasser and the wishful thinking he promotes then I understand where you get your hopes from. Let him preach to Muslims and we&#8217;ll be convinced when we see the evidence of his pro-Western results.</p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Oct 2013 23:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Remember, many Muslims left Muslim majority countries because of religious persecution, particularly women...&quot;

In rejection of sharia convinced that they among only a few understood the &quot;real Islam.&quot;

&quot;One such reformer, Dr. Zudhi Jasser, president and founder of American Islamic Forum for Democracy ( AIFD ), is a dedicated and brave reformer, that needs to be supported, not vilified.&quot;



I support Dr. Jasser in terms of hopes and wishes, but not in delusion. I certainly don&#039;t vilify him in any way. His arguments are all based on accepting common Judeo Christian values as Islamic. That&#039;s interesting but in the end it always leads back to Mohamed and it&#039;s ultimately difficult to deny what he was all about. Put simply, those who reject mainstream orthodox sharia are rejecting Islam but for personal (identity conflict?) reasons can&#039;t admit that. OTOH they also invent their own sharia which helps them do the same thing; live in denial.


If there were any signs of success, I&#039;d be the first to cheer. I understand the arguments but those who put any significant hope in reform are usually in deep denial about the facts. I&#039;d love to be wrong. Why would I oppose Dr. Jasser? He&#039;s just not that influential, and in the end he might even be helping the civilization jihad unintentionally by providing cover for stealth jihadis like the MB and the like.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Remember, many Muslims left Muslim majority countries because of religious persecution, particularly women&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>In rejection of sharia convinced that they among only a few understood the &#8220;real Islam.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;One such reformer, Dr. Zudhi Jasser, president and founder of American Islamic Forum for Democracy ( AIFD ), is a dedicated and brave reformer, that needs to be supported, not vilified.&#8221;</p>
<p>I support Dr. Jasser in terms of hopes and wishes, but not in delusion. I certainly don&#8217;t vilify him in any way. His arguments are all based on accepting common Judeo Christian values as Islamic. That&#8217;s interesting but in the end it always leads back to Mohamed and it&#8217;s ultimately difficult to deny what he was all about. Put simply, those who reject mainstream orthodox sharia are rejecting Islam but for personal (identity conflict?) reasons can&#8217;t admit that. OTOH they also invent their own sharia which helps them do the same thing; live in denial.</p>
<p>If there were any signs of success, I&#8217;d be the first to cheer. I understand the arguments but those who put any significant hope in reform are usually in deep denial about the facts. I&#8217;d love to be wrong. Why would I oppose Dr. Jasser? He&#8217;s just not that influential, and in the end he might even be helping the civilization jihad unintentionally by providing cover for stealth jihadis like the MB and the like.</p>
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		<title>By: LarryConners</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LarryConners]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Oct 2013 18:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot; Just those kinds of things &quot;

The MSM does not speak for me...Where do you come off thinking just because it appears in print, on TV, or is a policy statement by some lame-brain liberal administration official that they are speaking for me or the millions of other Americans that disagree with political correctness, insidious diversity, and social engineering...and we also refuse to comply to your &quot; be afraid, be very afraid &quot; the world as we know it is ending scenario...Chicken Little does not live in America.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; Just those kinds of things &#8221;</p>
<p>The MSM does not speak for me&#8230;Where do you come off thinking just because it appears in print, on TV, or is a policy statement by some lame-brain liberal administration official that they are speaking for me or the millions of other Americans that disagree with political correctness, insidious diversity, and social engineering&#8230;and we also refuse to comply to your &#8221; be afraid, be very afraid &#8221; the world as we know it is ending scenario&#8230;Chicken Little does not live in America.</p>
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		<title>By: LarryConners</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LarryConners]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Oct 2013 18:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot; deranged ideas are preventing us from making it clear that it will never happen.&quot;

Deranged ideas like supporting and encouraging reformist Muslims like Dr. Jasser ?...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; deranged ideas are preventing us from making it clear that it will never happen.&#8221;</p>
<p>Deranged ideas like supporting and encouraging reformist Muslims like Dr. Jasser ?&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: LarryConners</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/davidhornik/obama-to-israel-suicide-is-security/comment-page-1/#comment-5288697</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LarryConners]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Oct 2013 18:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot; Call them what you want, anyone who thinks that we need &quot;social progress&quot; today is insane, if they think the government is going to engineer a better society through compulsion and &quot;social justice&quot; principals. They&#039;ve already gone too far and now they call it progress to shoot for the moon with their delusional ideas.&quot;
Kurt Vonnegut answered that question in his &quot; Harrison Bergeron &quot; short story years ago...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; Call them what you want, anyone who thinks that we need &#8220;social progress&#8221; today is insane, if they think the government is going to engineer a better society through compulsion and &#8220;social justice&#8221; principals. They&#8217;ve already gone too far and now they call it progress to shoot for the moon with their delusional ideas.&#8221;<br />
Kurt Vonnegut answered that question in his &#8221; Harrison Bergeron &#8221; short story years ago&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: LarryConners</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/davidhornik/obama-to-israel-suicide-is-security/comment-page-1/#comment-5288682</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LarryConners]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Oct 2013 18:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot; While flattering me you insult Dr. Pipes. He&#039;s a lot more patient and diplomatic than I am.&quot;

No at all...Having read Dr Pipes many times I find him extremely well-informed, articulate, and passionate in his commentaries...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; While flattering me you insult Dr. Pipes. He&#8217;s a lot more patient and diplomatic than I am.&#8221;</p>
<p>No at all&#8230;Having read Dr Pipes many times I find him extremely well-informed, articulate, and passionate in his commentaries&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: LarryConners</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/davidhornik/obama-to-israel-suicide-is-security/comment-page-1/#comment-5288678</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LarryConners]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Oct 2013 18:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot; Jihad as we use it, and more crucially as Muslims use it, is almost always 
referring to the obligatory effort to spread submission to Islam throughout the 
world wherever the Muslim can reach.&quot;
&quot; as we use it &quot;, meaning it&#039;s present form since 911 as &quot; Holy War &quot;, a term that does not exist in the Qur&#039;an but is blatantly used by neo-conservatives and propagated by the MSM to instill fear in LIV&#039;s...   ...Whereas, &quot; as Muslims use it &quot; should refer to radical Muslims, not Muslims in general...Jihad to most Muslims could simply mean making a determined effort to get along with one&#039;s mother-in-law...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; Jihad as we use it, and more crucially as Muslims use it, is almost always<br />
referring to the obligatory effort to spread submission to Islam throughout the<br />
world wherever the Muslim can reach.&#8221;<br />
&#8221; as we use it &#8220;, meaning it&#8217;s present form since 911 as &#8221; Holy War &#8220;, a term that does not exist in the Qur&#8217;an but is blatantly used by neo-conservatives and propagated by the MSM to instill fear in LIV&#8217;s&#8230;   &#8230;Whereas, &#8221; as Muslims use it &#8221; should refer to radical Muslims, not Muslims in general&#8230;Jihad to most Muslims could simply mean making a determined effort to get along with one&#8217;s mother-in-law&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: LarryConners</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/davidhornik/obama-to-israel-suicide-is-security/comment-page-1/#comment-5288658</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LarryConners]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Oct 2013 17:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot; Indeed they are incapable. You can&#039;t show that the Wahhabis are wrong.&quot;
While its true all Wahhabis are salafists, not all salafists are Wahhabis. 

Indeed, I admit I may not be knowledgeable enough in Islamic religious theory to show where the Wahhabis are wrong in their interpretation of the Qur&#039;an, but reformist Muslims are, and they seek to actually change, reform and modernize their faith, similar to what happened to many of the world&#039;s religions. Remember, many Muslims left Muslim majority countries because of religious persecution, particularly women...

One such reformer, Dr. Zudhi Jasser, president and founder of American Islamic Forum for Democracy ( AIFD ), is a dedicated and brave reformer, that needs to be supported, not vilified. They are sacrificing a lot by coming out and speaking against the Islamist agenda. And if you follow what they say, they are on the same page as many other Muslim and non-Muslims who are opposed to radical Islam, Sharia law, etc......]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; Indeed they are incapable. You can&#8217;t show that the Wahhabis are wrong.&#8221;<br />
While its true all Wahhabis are salafists, not all salafists are Wahhabis. </p>
<p>Indeed, I admit I may not be knowledgeable enough in Islamic religious theory to show where the Wahhabis are wrong in their interpretation of the Qur&#8217;an, but reformist Muslims are, and they seek to actually change, reform and modernize their faith, similar to what happened to many of the world&#8217;s religions. Remember, many Muslims left Muslim majority countries because of religious persecution, particularly women&#8230;</p>
<p>One such reformer, Dr. Zudhi Jasser, president and founder of American Islamic Forum for Democracy ( AIFD ), is a dedicated and brave reformer, that needs to be supported, not vilified. They are sacrificing a lot by coming out and speaking against the Islamist agenda. And if you follow what they say, they are on the same page as many other Muslim and non-Muslims who are opposed to radical Islam, Sharia law, etc&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/davidhornik/obama-to-israel-suicide-is-security/comment-page-1/#comment-5287691</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Oct 2013 01:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;...propagating the idea that Muslims in general are unable and incapable of removing the cancer of Wahhabi radicalism...&quot;


Indeed they are incapable. You can&#039;t show that the Wahhabis are wrong. Do you think the Saudi kingdom is going anywhere? Do you think they&#039;re wrong? Do you think the Muslim Brotherhood is wrong about the essentials of Islam? The Shia do, but that&#039;s not really helpful for us. Not in terms of eliminating anti-Western jihad.


&quot;...and that we should do it for them by simply removing all of them from the human equation is unhelpful and by definition, radical.&quot;



It&#039;s a case of escalating rhetoric. We&#039;re simply matching their threats to make it clear that regardless of how patient and compliant we seem now, we intend to win when it comes down to the salient battles. They respect strength and showing clarity of conviction now may in the end save many of their lives. I know that seems contradictory but it&#039;s true. Like a warning shot before aiming at the center of the head or chest. It&#039;s a warning shot. Believe me, they understand it better than you give them credit for.


And lastly, it&#039;s not about eliminating people, it&#039;s about eliminating the threat of an ideology that has incited more violence than any other in history.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;propagating the idea that Muslims in general are unable and incapable of removing the cancer of Wahhabi radicalism&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Indeed they are incapable. You can&#8217;t show that the Wahhabis are wrong. Do you think the Saudi kingdom is going anywhere? Do you think they&#8217;re wrong? Do you think the Muslim Brotherhood is wrong about the essentials of Islam? The Shia do, but that&#8217;s not really helpful for us. Not in terms of eliminating anti-Western jihad.</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;and that we should do it for them by simply removing all of them from the human equation is unhelpful and by definition, radical.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a case of escalating rhetoric. We&#8217;re simply matching their threats to make it clear that regardless of how patient and compliant we seem now, we intend to win when it comes down to the salient battles. They respect strength and showing clarity of conviction now may in the end save many of their lives. I know that seems contradictory but it&#8217;s true. Like a warning shot before aiming at the center of the head or chest. It&#8217;s a warning shot. Believe me, they understand it better than you give them credit for.</p>
<p>And lastly, it&#8217;s not about eliminating people, it&#8217;s about eliminating the threat of an ideology that has incited more violence than any other in history.</p>
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