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	<title>Comments on: 7 Out of 10 California Docs Boycott ObamaCare</title>
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		<title>By: pupsncats</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Dec 2013 17:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wish I could believe it. But there isn&#039; t enough political will on the Republican side to ensure its demise. And so, like Medicare and Medicaid, Obamacare will remain, sucking out more trillions of dollars from the pockets of this and future generations with rationing a necessity as the influx of baby boomers and illegal aliens into the system will collapse the system. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish I could believe it. But there isn&#8217; t enough political will on the Republican side to ensure its demise. And so, like Medicare and Medicaid, Obamacare will remain, sucking out more trillions of dollars from the pockets of this and future generations with rationing a necessity as the influx of baby boomers and illegal aliens into the system will collapse the system. </p>
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		<title>By: Hilda</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hilda]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Dec 2013 19:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[True that could happen, but because enough people are realizing the scam that OzeroCare is and because not enough people who can afford it are signing up, I predict OzeroCare is going to be done with very soon.  All people (patients and doctors) need to do is refuse to comply with anything Ozerocare regulation. The whole program is immoral and unconstitutional.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True that could happen, but because enough people are realizing the scam that OzeroCare is and because not enough people who can afford it are signing up, I predict OzeroCare is going to be done with very soon.  All people (patients and doctors) need to do is refuse to comply with anything Ozerocare regulation. The whole program is immoral and unconstitutional.</p>
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		<title>By: A Z</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A Z]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Dec 2013 18:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It does not take long to destroy the leftist intellectual position with a though experiment.

So a doctor works for free or nominal fee.  People to whom he owes money will repossess any car or house he owns.  They will garnish his wages. 

Between garnishment of wages and nominal fees he will live in a crummy and perhaps dangerous part of town.  They are more likely to want to join a union and lay bricks than to treat people.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It does not take long to destroy the leftist intellectual position with a though experiment.</p>
<p>So a doctor works for free or nominal fee.  People to whom he owes money will repossess any car or house he owns.  They will garnish his wages. </p>
<p>Between garnishment of wages and nominal fees he will live in a crummy and perhaps dangerous part of town.  They are more likely to want to join a union and lay bricks than to treat people.</p>
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		<title>By: pupsncats</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pupsncats]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Dec 2013 17:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why do you think they have appointed themselves the aristocracy?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do you think they have appointed themselves the aristocracy?</p>
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		<title>By: pupsncats</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pupsncats]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Dec 2013 17:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t you mean relatively wealthy?


That is what the system will be. The wealthy will have priority access to medical care, particularly requiring a specialist and more doctors and other health care providers will set up cash only systems because they won&#039;t be able to afford to practice medicine on the pitiful amount of government-determined payments that will be the only ones they get once Obamacare becomes the only health care system in the country (its true goal.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t you mean relatively wealthy?</p>
<p>That is what the system will be. The wealthy will have priority access to medical care, particularly requiring a specialist and more doctors and other health care providers will set up cash only systems because they won&#8217;t be able to afford to practice medicine on the pitiful amount of government-determined payments that will be the only ones they get once Obamacare becomes the only health care system in the country (its true goal.)</p>
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		<title>By: pupsncats</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pupsncats]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Dec 2013 17:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The medical profession is the only one which the Socialists/Communists/Democrats/Progressives don&#039;t believe should be compensated for their educational and medical school expenses. Instead, they should treat people for free or gladly accept a nominal fee determined by the government.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The medical profession is the only one which the Socialists/Communists/Democrats/Progressives don&#8217;t believe should be compensated for their educational and medical school expenses. Instead, they should treat people for free or gladly accept a nominal fee determined by the government.</p>
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		<title>By: pupsncats</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/7-out-of-10-california-docs-boycott-obamacare/comment-page-1/#comment-5324170</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pupsncats]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Dec 2013 17:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes and a new program of collecting taxes to train the millions of illegal alien criminals after they are given amnesty to set up clinics in Planned Parenthood facilities where you can get your free condoms, birth control, abortion, suicide pills, &quot;we love Obama&quot; signs, stickers, pins, coffee mugs, T-shirts, and posters&quot; to take your mind off your health problems.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes and a new program of collecting taxes to train the millions of illegal alien criminals after they are given amnesty to set up clinics in Planned Parenthood facilities where you can get your free condoms, birth control, abortion, suicide pills, &#8220;we love Obama&#8221; signs, stickers, pins, coffee mugs, T-shirts, and posters&#8221; to take your mind off your health problems.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Greenfield</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daniel Greenfield]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Dec 2013 23:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[more unionized SEIU non-MD medical personnel]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>more unionized SEIU non-MD medical personnel</p>
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		<title>By: JoshisGems</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Dec 2013 18:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Most already are.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most already are.</p>
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		<title>By: A Z</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A Z]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Dec 2013 14:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The nit-wits in Washington,with their Obamacare monster,are doing a great job in wrecking&quot;

They have juris doctorates and these JDs have become politicians ad they they think they know everything and there will must be done

It is us or them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The nit-wits in Washington,with their Obamacare monster,are doing a great job in wrecking&#8221;</p>
<p>They have juris doctorates and these JDs have become politicians ad they they think they know everything and there will must be done</p>
<p>It is us or them.</p>
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		<title>By: A Z</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A Z]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Dec 2013 14:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[the longer view is that Doctors will complain that if they accept the ridiculously low rates of reimbursement they will go bankrupt.

At some point after much argument the left will concede this point and then go on to their next gambit.

They will propose  that if they pay for a doctors education then they can pay ridiculously low compensation and doctors will not go broke.

So after medicine (1/6th of the economy) they have yet another way into education.  But they are already into education thru student loans standards, and other areas.

If they can control the medical profession why not engineers or other professions.

This is not your fight of yesteryear.  These are cauldron battles.  There is no respite and no surrender.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the longer view is that Doctors will complain that if they accept the ridiculously low rates of reimbursement they will go bankrupt.</p>
<p>At some point after much argument the left will concede this point and then go on to their next gambit.</p>
<p>They will propose  that if they pay for a doctors education then they can pay ridiculously low compensation and doctors will not go broke.</p>
<p>So after medicine (1/6th of the economy) they have yet another way into education.  But they are already into education thru student loans standards, and other areas.</p>
<p>If they can control the medical profession why not engineers or other professions.</p>
<p>This is not your fight of yesteryear.  These are cauldron battles.  There is no respite and no surrender.</p>
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		<title>By: retired</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[retired]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Dec 2013 13:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All of this political talk minus the financial/economic considerations is meaningless.
  Too many posters get into their Democrat vs. Republican thing or Capitalist vs. Socialist rants ,as though that was where it&#039;s at.This is like spitting into the wind!
The real facts are these 1)The Medical industry in America is 16% of the nations economy.2)If the Medical industry were a seperate economy it would be the 6th largest economy in the world.That means it would be as big as the whole economy of Great Britain.3) The nit-wits in Washington,with their Obamacare monster,are doing  a great job in wrecking an already stressed medical industry.If the Medical industry (16% of the economy) is destroyed it will cause a stock market crash that will be felt around the world.This could very well crash the whole U.S. Economy.4)If the U.S. economy goes down it will drag the EU &amp; the rest of the world with it.5) If all of this happens &amp; it may very well happen,all of us will have bigger things to think about than Democrats vs. Republicans or Capitalists &amp; Socialists.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All of this political talk minus the financial/economic considerations is meaningless.<br />
  Too many posters get into their Democrat vs. Republican thing or Capitalist vs. Socialist rants ,as though that was where it&#8217;s at.This is like spitting into the wind!<br />
The real facts are these 1)The Medical industry in America is 16% of the nations economy.2)If the Medical industry were a seperate economy it would be the 6th largest economy in the world.That means it would be as big as the whole economy of Great Britain.3) The nit-wits in Washington,with their Obamacare monster,are doing  a great job in wrecking an already stressed medical industry.If the Medical industry (16% of the economy) is destroyed it will cause a stock market crash that will be felt around the world.This could very well crash the whole U.S. Economy.4)If the U.S. economy goes down it will drag the EU &amp; the rest of the world with it.5) If all of this happens &amp; it may very well happen,all of us will have bigger things to think about than Democrats vs. Republicans or Capitalists &amp; Socialists.</p>
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		<title>By: 7Out7</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[7Out7]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Dec 2013 12:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Eventually, the Obama administration will be forced into its usual Chicago thug tactics to end the doctors&#039; reluctance to treat  ACA, Medicare and Medicaid patients.  Fees paid are so low doctors can&#039;t make a living with it, but Federal government can compel them to.  How? Suspend medical licenses until they fall in line.  If Obama does that, doctors won&#039;t be allowed to practice anywhere, even for free. This would be in addition to IRS demanding audits for ten years back, goons raiding offices looking for unspecified evidence, etc.  Yes, doctors&#039; lives will be turned upside down until they capitulate.  About the only thing doctors can do is retire.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eventually, the Obama administration will be forced into its usual Chicago thug tactics to end the doctors&#8217; reluctance to treat  ACA, Medicare and Medicaid patients.  Fees paid are so low doctors can&#8217;t make a living with it, but Federal government can compel them to.  How? Suspend medical licenses until they fall in line.  If Obama does that, doctors won&#8217;t be allowed to practice anywhere, even for free. This would be in addition to IRS demanding audits for ten years back, goons raiding offices looking for unspecified evidence, etc.  Yes, doctors&#8217; lives will be turned upside down until they capitulate.  About the only thing doctors can do is retire.</p>
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		<title>By: truebearing</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[truebearing]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Dec 2013 05:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let&#039;s see...70% less doctors will treat the population of California, and half of Mexico. What could go wrong there?


How will Maobama solve that little problem? Grant medical licenses to ACORN members?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s see&#8230;70% less doctors will treat the population of California, and half of Mexico. What could go wrong there?</p>
<p>How will Maobama solve that little problem? Grant medical licenses to ACORN members?</p>
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		<title>By: Hilda</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hilda]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Dec 2013 02:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The bureaucrats in DC who think they are better than us get Concierge medicine paid by us and we get screwed with OzeroCare.

http://conciergemedicinenews.wordpress.com/2013/05/14/lawmakers-get-bounty-of-benefits/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The bureaucrats in DC who think they are better than us get Concierge medicine paid by us and we get screwed with OzeroCare.</p>
<p><a href="http://conciergemedicinenews.wordpress.com/2013/05/14/lawmakers-get-bounty-of-benefits/" rel="nofollow">http://conciergemedicinenews.wordpress.com/2013/05/14/lawmakers-get-bounty-of-benefits/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Hilda</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hilda]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Dec 2013 02:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Concierge or cash only doctors is the way to go for people who are relatively healthy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Concierge or cash only doctors is the way to go for people who are relatively healthy.</p>
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		<title>By: worldwatchman</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[worldwatchman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Dec 2013 01:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Doctors across America who aren&#039;t Democrat idiots should boycott Obama and his socialist medical plan.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doctors across America who aren&#8217;t Democrat idiots should boycott Obama and his socialist medical plan.</p>
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		<title>By: A Z</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A Z]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Dec 2013 01:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know why we are arguing about this except that some people want something for nothing (or next to nothing) or are ignorant.

Think of car repairs.  There is an industry standard on how much time replacing car components takes for each make model and year.  I forgot if it is Chiltons or some other publisher. So one your car&#039;s problem is diagnosed the cost of repairs from that standpoint is straight forward.

Now the human body is more complicated and has more moving parts than a car but the concept is the same.  It is getting to be more of a science. 

But reimbursement by the government is like a tax levy.  It is whatever they say it is or say they need it to be instead of being set by the market or something you can apply one of the methods of cost accounting

You could think of a doctor getting a bachelors degree and medical school as set up cost.  Many people and the government simply do not want to pay for the amortization of that cost much less pay doctors a wage that takes into account their insurance or skill level.

Meanwhile people think they can eat junk and abuse their bodies and doctors will patch them up gratis.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know why we are arguing about this except that some people want something for nothing (or next to nothing) or are ignorant.</p>
<p>Think of car repairs.  There is an industry standard on how much time replacing car components takes for each make model and year.  I forgot if it is Chiltons or some other publisher. So one your car&#8217;s problem is diagnosed the cost of repairs from that standpoint is straight forward.</p>
<p>Now the human body is more complicated and has more moving parts than a car but the concept is the same.  It is getting to be more of a science. </p>
<p>But reimbursement by the government is like a tax levy.  It is whatever they say it is or say they need it to be instead of being set by the market or something you can apply one of the methods of cost accounting</p>
<p>You could think of a doctor getting a bachelors degree and medical school as set up cost.  Many people and the government simply do not want to pay for the amortization of that cost much less pay doctors a wage that takes into account their insurance or skill level.</p>
<p>Meanwhile people think they can eat junk and abuse their bodies and doctors will patch them up gratis.</p>
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