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	<title>Comments on: Allen West at CPAC: &#8220;There&#8217;s No Shortage of People Telling Us We Must Change Our Values to Fit the Times&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: EarlyBird</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[EarlyBird]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Mar 2013 23:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;..if someone says &quot;kick them out&quot; it&#039;s just frustrations.&quot; 
 
You don&#039;t pay attention too well, do you?  Throughout FPM there are people, like lil&#039; Danny Greenfield, who absolutely believe we ought to round them up and deport all 11 million, and anything less than that is &quot;amnesty.&quot;  And &quot;amnesty&quot; is a liberalcommunistMarxistweakmindedIslamist something.   
 
Now, you do know that your and my solution on immigration are identical, but I&#039;m just intellectually honest enough to call part of the solution what it is, i.e., &quot;amnesty.&quot; 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;..if someone says &quot;kick them out&quot; it&#039;s just frustrations.&quot; </p>
<p>You don&#039;t pay attention too well, do you?  Throughout FPM there are people, like lil&#039; Danny Greenfield, who absolutely believe we ought to round them up and deport all 11 million, and anything less than that is &quot;amnesty.&quot;  And &quot;amnesty&quot; is a liberalcommunistMarxistweakmindedIslamist something.   </p>
<p>Now, you do know that your and my solution on immigration are identical, but I&#039;m just intellectually honest enough to call part of the solution what it is, i.e., &quot;amnesty.&quot; </p>
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		<title>By: EarlyBird</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[EarlyBird]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Mar 2013 23:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I spent a year hanging out with a libertarian group here in Los Angeles, which met over dinner once a momth.  There were some very brilliant guys in that club, and they have forgotten more about politics, history, and the Constitution than you&#039;ve ever bothered to learn.   
 
But at some point I realized that the whole thing was irrelevant.  Everything they were saying was totally abstract, and would have no effect in the world.  Same with the pure Republican Party you want.   ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I spent a year hanging out with a libertarian group here in Los Angeles, which met over dinner once a momth.  There were some very brilliant guys in that club, and they have forgotten more about politics, history, and the Constitution than you&#039;ve ever bothered to learn.   </p>
<p>But at some point I realized that the whole thing was irrelevant.  Everything they were saying was totally abstract, and would have no effect in the world.  Same with the pure Republican Party you want.   </p>
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		<title>By: EarlyBird</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[EarlyBird]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Mar 2013 23:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oops.  Try again.   ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops.  Try again.   </p>
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		<title>By: EarlyBird</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[EarlyBird]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Mar 2013 23:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I understood it perfectly.  We have to both raises taxes and cut spending.  You&#039;re in the &quot;no taxes ever!&quot; camp.  That&#039;s ridiculous.   ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understood it perfectly.  We have to both raises taxes and cut spending.  You&#039;re in the &quot;no taxes ever!&quot; camp.  That&#039;s ridiculous.   </p>
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		<title>By: EarlyBird</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[EarlyBird]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Mar 2013 22:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh everything with you fascists is a &quot;red line.&quot;  It&#039;s why there are no deals on immigration, the budget or pretty much of anything.   ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh everything with you fascists is a &quot;red line.&quot;  It&#039;s why there are no deals on immigration, the budget or pretty much of anything.   </p>
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		<title>By: EarlyBird</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[EarlyBird]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Mar 2013 22:52:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The GOP candidates all refused a hypothetical budget deal where for every $10 of spending cuts, $1 of increased taxes would occur.  They all had to forswear such a deal, because they all had to say &quot;no tax increases, ever.&quot;  Even the Fox News dork couldn&#039;t believe he heard them right.   
 
They had to take this idiotic, extreme position - which you sure would consider sticking to principle - because the Tea Party psychopaths had pushed them to be that extreme.  If any president could get such a budget deal, he&#039;d be a national hero.   
 
The GOP is purging morons like you.    ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The GOP candidates all refused a hypothetical budget deal where for every $10 of spending cuts, $1 of increased taxes would occur.  They all had to forswear such a deal, because they all had to say &quot;no tax increases, ever.&quot;  Even the Fox News dork couldn&#039;t believe he heard them right.   </p>
<p>They had to take this idiotic, extreme position &#8211; which you sure would consider sticking to principle &#8211; because the Tea Party psychopaths had pushed them to be that extreme.  If any president could get such a budget deal, he&#039;d be a national hero.   </p>
<p>The GOP is purging morons like you.    </p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[objectivefactsmatter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Mar 2013 08:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Reality check: There is simply no practical, moral, legal, or politically possible way to literally eject 11 million illegal immigrants from this country, no matter how much we&#039;d like to. It&#039;s not going to happen. Repeat: it&#039;s impossible.&quot;  
  
OMG, you again? False Dichotomies R Us? Dude, if someone says &quot;kick them out&quot; it&#039;s just frustrations. We ought to secure the borders and enforce the existing laws. Some will eventually be asked to leave if they don&#039;t qualify. But many will be allowed to pay penalties and reconcile what they must.  
  
I mean you are so clueless.  
  
EB logic: The law is too difficult to enforce, so just offer them a &#039;gimme.&#039; And if a mob breaks down the doors of a department store and there are not enough police cars to arrest them, why you just call for an amnesty so that the laws will be &quot;realistic.&quot;  
  
Wait, it&#039;s too difficult to get people to pay their taxes and since so many refuse to comply with the law, then we need to just give them amnesty too.  
  
Great going EB. You&#039;re our savior.  
 
&quot;Therefore, ANY solution must include SOME form of amnesty&quot;  
  
Due process is all anyone should expect for ask for. Some get amnesty already after petitioning the courts. Class amnesty is unjust.  
  
&quot; preferably after we secure the border and enforce strict penalties against hiring illegals. THAT is the realist, conservative solution.&quot;  
  
Sure you want to sound balanced, but next (after some class action amnesty) you&#039;ll say we can&#039;t &quot;realistically&quot; expect to secure the borders better than we already do. Those laws are &quot;too hard.&quot;  
  
With you we&#039;re back to square one in delusional leftist land. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Reality check: There is simply no practical, moral, legal, or politically possible way to literally eject 11 million illegal immigrants from this country, no matter how much we&#039;d like to. It&#039;s not going to happen. Repeat: it&#039;s impossible.&quot;  </p>
<p>OMG, you again? False Dichotomies R Us? Dude, if someone says &quot;kick them out&quot; it&#039;s just frustrations. We ought to secure the borders and enforce the existing laws. Some will eventually be asked to leave if they don&#039;t qualify. But many will be allowed to pay penalties and reconcile what they must.  </p>
<p>I mean you are so clueless.  </p>
<p>EB logic: The law is too difficult to enforce, so just offer them a &#039;gimme.&#039; And if a mob breaks down the doors of a department store and there are not enough police cars to arrest them, why you just call for an amnesty so that the laws will be &quot;realistic.&quot;  </p>
<p>Wait, it&#039;s too difficult to get people to pay their taxes and since so many refuse to comply with the law, then we need to just give them amnesty too.  </p>
<p>Great going EB. You&#039;re our savior.  </p>
<p>&quot;Therefore, ANY solution must include SOME form of amnesty&quot;  </p>
<p>Due process is all anyone should expect for ask for. Some get amnesty already after petitioning the courts. Class amnesty is unjust.  </p>
<p>&quot; preferably after we secure the border and enforce strict penalties against hiring illegals. THAT is the realist, conservative solution.&quot;  </p>
<p>Sure you want to sound balanced, but next (after some class action amnesty) you&#039;ll say we can&#039;t &quot;realistically&quot; expect to secure the borders better than we already do. Those laws are &quot;too hard.&quot;  </p>
<p>With you we&#039;re back to square one in delusional leftist land. </p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[objectivefactsmatter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Mar 2013 08:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Another post which proves you deserve nothing but ridicule and scorn.&quot; 
 
As if anyone turns to you for such analysis. You just hate being corrected. And you claim that &quot;right wingers&quot; won&#039;t accept correction. So I could just go on listing all of the clearly hypocritical habits you have but you&#039;re well known around here. 
 
Keep ignoring the facts psycho. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Another post which proves you deserve nothing but ridicule and scorn.&quot; </p>
<p>As if anyone turns to you for such analysis. You just hate being corrected. And you claim that &quot;right wingers&quot; won&#039;t accept correction. So I could just go on listing all of the clearly hypocritical habits you have but you&#039;re well known around here. </p>
<p>Keep ignoring the facts psycho. </p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[objectivefactsmatter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Mar 2013 08:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;You clearly did not comprehend my post.&quot; 
 
He/she/it never does pick up more than a few words of what anyone says. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;You clearly did not comprehend my post.&quot; </p>
<p>He/she/it never does pick up more than a few words of what anyone says. </p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[objectivefactsmatter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Mar 2013 08:36:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Yes, we have a spending problem. So why did every GOP presidential contender refuse the hypothetical deal of $10 dollar of spending cuts for every $1 in raised taxes was rejected?&quot; 
 
Because historically they never make the cuts. They lie. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Yes, we have a spending problem. So why did every GOP presidential contender refuse the hypothetical deal of $10 dollar of spending cuts for every $1 in raised taxes was rejected?&quot; </p>
<p>Because historically they never make the cuts. They lie. </p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Mar 2013 08:35:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Where the Dems refuse to accept that we need to make major cuts, the Republicans refuse to accept that we need to raise taxes and reduce certain loopholes.&quot; 
 
Early Parrot? Broken record? 
 
&quot;Though the US military budget something like 8 times larger than any other in the world, the Republicans refuse to cut Defense...&quot; 
 
What value is it to compare our budget to that of others? Smoke and mirrors.  
 
&quot;...and prefer only to cut Medicare and Social Security, when all three need cuts and adjustments. &quot; 
 
Not necessarily the ones you think. 
 
&quot;They also pretend that we can grow our way out of the deficit by lowering taxes and setting the market free to create new revenue.&quot; 
 
Rather than &quot;stimulus.&quot;  We&#039;d be out of the recession already if not for 0&#039;Bama. And investors don&#039;t trust liars as POTUS. So the fact is that just getting him out of office would add to our prospects and then maybe compromise would be possible. Leftists are on cloud 9 right now thinking they can just write their own ticket without any grounding in reality. Leftists like you. 
 
 
&quot;That&#039;s as unserious as the Dems &quot;tax our way out of it&quot; plan.&quot; 
 
You have no clue. You just read talking points and then pin the tail on the donkey to decide what position to take. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Where the Dems refuse to accept that we need to make major cuts, the Republicans refuse to accept that we need to raise taxes and reduce certain loopholes.&quot; </p>
<p>Early Parrot? Broken record? </p>
<p>&quot;Though the US military budget something like 8 times larger than any other in the world, the Republicans refuse to cut Defense&#8230;&quot; </p>
<p>What value is it to compare our budget to that of others? Smoke and mirrors.  </p>
<p>&quot;&#8230;and prefer only to cut Medicare and Social Security, when all three need cuts and adjustments. &quot; </p>
<p>Not necessarily the ones you think. </p>
<p>&quot;They also pretend that we can grow our way out of the deficit by lowering taxes and setting the market free to create new revenue.&quot; </p>
<p>Rather than &quot;stimulus.&quot;  We&#039;d be out of the recession already if not for 0&#039;Bama. And investors don&#039;t trust liars as POTUS. So the fact is that just getting him out of office would add to our prospects and then maybe compromise would be possible. Leftists are on cloud 9 right now thinking they can just write their own ticket without any grounding in reality. Leftists like you. </p>
<p>&quot;That&#039;s as unserious as the Dems &quot;tax our way out of it&quot; plan.&quot; </p>
<p>You have no clue. You just read talking points and then pin the tail on the donkey to decide what position to take. </p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Mar 2013 08:26:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Daniel, you may not realize how much of a minority within a minority you&#039;re becoming. You&#039;re on the right wing fringe of the right wing. &quot;No compromise&quot; means &quot;no governance.&quot;&quot; 
 
We have &quot;red lines.&quot; That doesn&#039;t mean literally never compromising when the other party is reasonable. It means no compromise when they&#039;re not reasonable. There&#039;s a clear dichotomy for you since you just love keeping things simple. Somehow I doubt you&#039;ll understand. 
 
&quot;It means sitting out on all the big issues and allowing the Democrats to win be default.&quot; 
 
No it doesn&#039;t. Refusing to compromise does not have anything to do with stealth mode. 
 
&quot;It forces the voter into a choice between lefties or nut jobs, and the ones at least in touch with reality will win by default.&quot; 
 
Your personal view is useless here. We know you learn nothing from political discourse but many do. That is our hope, for people to learn the truth. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Daniel, you may not realize how much of a minority within a minority you&#039;re becoming. You&#039;re on the right wing fringe of the right wing. &quot;No compromise&quot; means &quot;no governance.&quot;&quot; </p>
<p>We have &quot;red lines.&quot; That doesn&#039;t mean literally never compromising when the other party is reasonable. It means no compromise when they&#039;re not reasonable. There&#039;s a clear dichotomy for you since you just love keeping things simple. Somehow I doubt you&#039;ll understand. </p>
<p>&quot;It means sitting out on all the big issues and allowing the Democrats to win be default.&quot; </p>
<p>No it doesn&#039;t. Refusing to compromise does not have anything to do with stealth mode. </p>
<p>&quot;It forces the voter into a choice between lefties or nut jobs, and the ones at least in touch with reality will win by default.&quot; </p>
<p>Your personal view is useless here. We know you learn nothing from political discourse but many do. That is our hope, for people to learn the truth. </p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Mar 2013 08:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Yeah, imagine actually working to achieve what is attainable within the context of a pluralistic democracy&quot; 
 
Compromise is only acceptable to a point and in limited circumstances. You seem to call for throwing out all ideology that might prevent victory. Form your own party. 
 
&quot;...rather than creating a break away Republic of Right Wing Infants?&quot; 
 
You&#039;re calling for change and asking everyone else to change with you while trying to steal the legacy too. You need to start over, not the Republicans, unless your ilk finally destroy all credibility and the legacy becomes worthless. Did I thank you for that yet? 
 
I might add that lunatics like you are not exactly the ones who get to decide who the &quot;infants&quot; are. 
 
&quot;Serious conservatives...&quot; 
 
LOL! You&#039;re hilarious! 
 
&quot;Serious conservatives want to present a loyal opposition to liberals in the White House&quot; 
 
1) It&#039;s unclear who you refer to. If you consider yourself a &#039;serious conservative&quot; by that you must mean a serious sellout who tries to wear the conservative &quot;early bird&quot; brand.  
 
2) Is this &quot;loyal opposition&quot; loyal to power or to the constitution? 
 
&quot;...not a rear guard action to bring down the US government in the name of &quot;freedom,&quot; something you only want for yourself.&quot; 
 
You make no sense at all. 
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Yeah, imagine actually working to achieve what is attainable within the context of a pluralistic democracy&quot; </p>
<p>Compromise is only acceptable to a point and in limited circumstances. You seem to call for throwing out all ideology that might prevent victory. Form your own party. </p>
<p>&quot;&#8230;rather than creating a break away Republic of Right Wing Infants?&quot; </p>
<p>You&#039;re calling for change and asking everyone else to change with you while trying to steal the legacy too. You need to start over, not the Republicans, unless your ilk finally destroy all credibility and the legacy becomes worthless. Did I thank you for that yet? </p>
<p>I might add that lunatics like you are not exactly the ones who get to decide who the &quot;infants&quot; are. </p>
<p>&quot;Serious conservatives&#8230;&quot; </p>
<p>LOL! You&#039;re hilarious! </p>
<p>&quot;Serious conservatives want to present a loyal opposition to liberals in the White House&quot; </p>
<p>1) It&#039;s unclear who you refer to. If you consider yourself a &#039;serious conservative&quot; by that you must mean a serious sellout who tries to wear the conservative &quot;early bird&quot; brand.  </p>
<p>2) Is this &quot;loyal opposition&quot; loyal to power or to the constitution? </p>
<p>&quot;&#8230;not a rear guard action to bring down the US government in the name of &quot;freedom,&quot; something you only want for yourself.&quot; </p>
<p>You make no sense at all. </p>
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		<title>By: RebeccaJean</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Mar 2013 22:12:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: RebeccaJean</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RebeccaJean]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Mar 2013 22:11:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Read the last 3 sentences of my original post again. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Read the last 3 sentences of my original post again. </p>
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		<title>By: RebeccaJean</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RebeccaJean]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Mar 2013 22:06:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You clearly did not comprehend my post. ]]></description>
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		<title>By: EarlyBird</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[EarlyBird]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Mar 2013 21:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I hope people of all political stripes are sincere about them and are willing to stand up for their principles.   
 
But to me standing up for principles doesn&#039;t mean never budging on POLICIES.   
 
For instance, when we are faced as we are with a massive, crippling budget deficit, while enjoying a massive military edge on our rivals while also having the lowest historic modern tax rates on the top earners, the answer is not to go all 1980 and demand even MORE spending on Defense, and even LOWER taxes on the wealthy, as the GOP is doing.  That is confusing policies with principles.   
 
We should steadfastly apply our PRINCIPLES of &quot;Whatever the problem, let&#039;s try to find the most liberty expanding, least governmentally intrusive and expensive solution to it,&quot; and go from there.     ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope people of all political stripes are sincere about them and are willing to stand up for their principles.   </p>
<p>But to me standing up for principles doesn&#039;t mean never budging on POLICIES.   </p>
<p>For instance, when we are faced as we are with a massive, crippling budget deficit, while enjoying a massive military edge on our rivals while also having the lowest historic modern tax rates on the top earners, the answer is not to go all 1980 and demand even MORE spending on Defense, and even LOWER taxes on the wealthy, as the GOP is doing.  That is confusing policies with principles.   </p>
<p>We should steadfastly apply our PRINCIPLES of &quot;Whatever the problem, let&#039;s try to find the most liberty expanding, least governmentally intrusive and expensive solution to it,&quot; and go from there.     </p>
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		<title>By: Cathy</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Mar 2013 19:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[EarlyBird 
 
In my world ... 
 
Conservatism is remaining firm on a position that applies to all.  Progressivism is an ideology based on Conservative compromise for some. 
 
Compromising Conservative principles is a stepping stone to chaos.  IMO 
 
Think about it.  If Rubio is willing to compromise his former Conservative stand and afford over 11 million &quot;illegal&quot; hispanics benefits/services and ultimately a path to citizenship ... a precident has been established.  What will happen when Rubio is faced with over 11 million &quot;illegal&quot; Muslims demanding amnesty. 
 
Rubio has flip-flopped from his 2009 position regarding &quot;illegal&quot; immigration.  Consider Allen West&#039;s upholding of Rubio at CPAC 2013 ... I am concerned that he has also flip-flopped. 
 
LTC Allen West on Illegal Immigration  
May 18, 2010 
   &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nmn0mFV7xFs&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nmn0mFV7xFs&lt;/a&gt;  
    
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EarlyBird </p>
<p>In my world &#8230; </p>
<p>Conservatism is remaining firm on a position that applies to all.  Progressivism is an ideology based on Conservative compromise for some. </p>
<p>Compromising Conservative principles is a stepping stone to chaos.  IMO </p>
<p>Think about it.  If Rubio is willing to compromise his former Conservative stand and afford over 11 million &quot;illegal&quot; hispanics benefits/services and ultimately a path to citizenship &#8230; a precident has been established.  What will happen when Rubio is faced with over 11 million &quot;illegal&quot; Muslims demanding amnesty. </p>
<p>Rubio has flip-flopped from his 2009 position regarding &quot;illegal&quot; immigration.  Consider Allen West&#039;s upholding of Rubio at CPAC 2013 &#8230; I am concerned that he has also flip-flopped. </p>
<p>LTC Allen West on Illegal Immigration<br />
May 18, 2010<br />
   <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nmn0mFV7xFs" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nmn0mFV7xFs</a>  </p>
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		<title>By: EarlyBird</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[EarlyBird]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Mar 2013 19:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Ah, the &quot;reality&quot; of the &quot;need&quot; to compromise rather than stand up for ideology.&quot; 
 
Yeah, imagine actually working to achieve what is attainable within the context of a pluralistic democracy, rather than creating a break away Republic of Right Wing Infants?   
 
Serious conservatives want to present a loyal opposition to liberals in the White House, not a rear guard action to bring down the US government in the name of &quot;freedom,&quot; something you only want for yourself.    ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Ah, the &quot;reality&quot; of the &quot;need&quot; to compromise rather than stand up for ideology.&quot; </p>
<p>Yeah, imagine actually working to achieve what is attainable within the context of a pluralistic democracy, rather than creating a break away Republic of Right Wing Infants?   </p>
<p>Serious conservatives want to present a loyal opposition to liberals in the White House, not a rear guard action to bring down the US government in the name of &quot;freedom,&quot; something you only want for yourself.    </p>
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		<title>By: EarlyBird</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Mar 2013 18:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cathy, another perfect illustration of how the far right wants to simply shut down governance in the name of purist ideology.   
 
Reality check:  There is simply no practical, moral, legal, or politically possible way to literally eject 11 million illegal immigrants from this country, no matter how much we&#039;d like to.  It&#039;s not going to happen.  Repeat: it&#039;s impossible.   
 
Therefore, ANY solution must include SOME form of amnesty, preferably after we secure the border and enforce strict penalties against hiring illegals.  THAT is the realist, conservative solution.   
 
Conservatism is not just a set of policies; it&#039;s an adult acceptance of the fact that we live in a world of limits.  Pursuing some conservative utopia is idiocy.  We can either pursue as much as we can within the limits of reality, or just accept the broken immigration system we have.   
 
But more likely we&#039;ll have something even worse.  By opting out of the solution making, we&#039;ll simply be overrun with the Dems&#039; &quot;solution.&quot; 
 
Try to grow up, kids. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cathy, another perfect illustration of how the far right wants to simply shut down governance in the name of purist ideology.   </p>
<p>Reality check:  There is simply no practical, moral, legal, or politically possible way to literally eject 11 million illegal immigrants from this country, no matter how much we&#039;d like to.  It&#039;s not going to happen.  Repeat: it&#039;s impossible.   </p>
<p>Therefore, ANY solution must include SOME form of amnesty, preferably after we secure the border and enforce strict penalties against hiring illegals.  THAT is the realist, conservative solution.   </p>
<p>Conservatism is not just a set of policies; it&#039;s an adult acceptance of the fact that we live in a world of limits.  Pursuing some conservative utopia is idiocy.  We can either pursue as much as we can within the limits of reality, or just accept the broken immigration system we have.   </p>
<p>But more likely we&#039;ll have something even worse.  By opting out of the solution making, we&#039;ll simply be overrun with the Dems&#039; &quot;solution.&quot; </p>
<p>Try to grow up, kids. </p>
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