An Islamist Civil War Begins in Turkey


The road to the Caliphate is a long one mainly because the wannabe Caliphs can’t stop stabbing each other in the back. Erdogan had succeeded in doing the seemingly impossible, suppressing and destroying Turkey’s military leadership and turning the Islamist AKP into an unchallenged power.


Lurking behind the curtain was the strange and bizarre Gulen movement. If Prime Miister Erdogan’s blend of crony capitalism and Islam was similar to the relatively familiar Muslim Brotherhood variety, the Gulen movement combines even wackier beliefs, women with blonde hair and enough blackmail material to sink everyone.

Erdogan had avoided fighting Gulen with good reason. And then, just as he was tangled up with…

1. Blowback from the Syrian Civil War, including regional isolation by the countries like Egypt whose takeover he backed and domestic anger from Alevis which he stoked

2. The rising threat of an expanding Kurdistan

3. Domestic secular youth protests resembling those of the Arab Spring

4. Way too much debt

… he decided it would be a good time to take on the man who knows where all the bodies are buried and has deep levels of influence.

How badly is it going? This badly.

“A major political struggle has started in Turkey,” said Soner Cagaptay, director of the Turkish Research Program at The Washington Institute. “Ironically, this battle is being fought within the ranks of the governing party.”

Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan denounced “international groups” and “dark alliances” on Saturday for entangling Turkey in a corruption scandal that has exposed deep rifts between him and a US-based Muslim cleric who helped him rise to power.

Sixteen people, including the sons of two ministers and the head of state-owned Halkbank, were formally arrested on Saturday, local media said, in a corruption inquiry that Erdogan has called a “dirty operation” to undermine his rule.

The furor, which has roiled markets, is seen as reflecting a power struggle between Erdogan and his former ally Fethullah Gulen, who wields influence in the police and judiciary.

Dozens of police chiefs have been removed from their posts since the detentions of bribery suspects began.

Erdogan responded to this with the usual grace and dignity that you expect from a howling lunatic.

Erdogan, just as he did when he faced a wave of protests in the summer, has pointed to foreign hands in the crisis.

Several pro-government newspapers accused the US Embassy of encouraging the move against Halkbank, saying the United States wanted the bank to stop its dealings with Iran.

“Get out of this country,” read Yeni Safak’s headline, with a photo of U.S. Ambassador Francis Ricciardone.

So on top of everything else, Erdogan is picking a fight with the United States.

In the best case scenario, Erdogan and Gulen tear each other apart with the Gulen Movement leaking everything they have on Erdogan’s people, while Erdogan runs around like a mad tyrant spreading more conspiracies and locking everyone up.

  • poetcomic1

    There will have to be at least some sort of human trafficking, drug dealing ‘rump state’ leftover to join the EU. Just a friendly Turkey.

  • Gee

    All I can say is that they deserve far more than what they are getting. Turkey is going to go the same way as Syria.

    This is good news for anybody that hates fascism


      Gee AKBAR!

    • Can Kuzu

      Thanks old chap. I’ll remember that its good news for people who hate fascism when they kill my children.

      You have noticed that 100,000 people have died in Syria, most of them innocent? The AQ terrorists and Assads thugs, are much less likely to die.

      • Gee

        Innocent – hardly. Most of those killed have been combatants.

        I have no intension of fighting for any side in Syria. They are all fascist thugs

        • Can Kuzu

          Maybe you are not seeing it in the press you read. But Turkish opposition press are full of stories of women being raped, and children being murdered by the Al Qaeda affiliated rebels.

          War is disgusting. To wish that a relatively stable country like Turkey, with the potential to solve its democratic deficit, should go the same way as Syria, is extremely nasty and wrong headed.

          Erdogan and his gang deserved to be punished for the damage they are inflicting and the money they are stealing. But 75 million people don’t deserve to have their lives wrecked.

          • Drakken

            Muslims be muslims and whatever they get, they deserve. it back, grab a bourbon and watch as these savages tear each other to pieces.

      • Drakken

        Innocent and muslim in the same sentence is an oxymoron, you effing bloody savages have wrought this upon yourselves and then blame us in the west, well eff you ! The more you kill each the other the better.

    • A Z

      Scratch a Turk find someone with Greek blood. Some Celtish blood also. Even if they were 100% Turkish by heritage I would not wish a civil war on them.

      Best case scenario is that they have a Velvet Revolution and become Christians, humanists or something.

      I do not give the best case scenario much of a chance.

      • Drakken

        It is scratch a turk and you will find a Greek, effit, let them tear each other to pieces.


    What else do you expect from the self proclaimed


  • Greek

    By far, Erdogan is the best PM in the history of Turkey. They have to think twice before criticizing him…

    • Can Kuzu

      Excuse me?

      The guy is a fascist lunatic,

      Even if he were the best; criticizing him is still normal. Unless I have missed the fact that he is a prophet or something

    • Drakken

      It is obvious that a turk bred the Greek outa you.

  • edlancey

    I am shocked by the admittedly slim possibility that “international groups” may refer to Gulen’s shadowy SPECTRE-like organisation.

    I had just naturally assumed this was a coded reference to Israel and the Joos.

    I await confirmation from Erdogan that Gulen is in fact a Donmeh, thereby killing two birds with one stone.

    • Daniel Greenfield

      That’s a given. The only way to fight Gulen is to accuse him of being a Yankee/Zionist puppet which will be easy considering his US base and his occasional “outreach” to Jews and even Israelis.

  • edbx

    Mustafa Kamal Attaturk is puking in his grave.

  • alan

    “Erdogan responded to this with the usual grace and dignity that you expect from a howling lunatic.” This is pretty disrespectful no matter how bad the guy is!!!

    • Daniel Greenfield

      What if he actually is a howling lunatic?