British National Death Care Meets Islamic Fatalism

Sometimes two individually wonderful things are combined, like Peanut Butter and Jelly. And sometimes two individually horrible things are combined together for an even more horrible combination, like the British National Death Care system and Islamic Fatalism.

Death panels sound so much better when Allah is mentioned in them.

The latest articles about the horrifying levels of neglect and abuse in British hospitals, combined with the Liverpool Care Pathway that will eventually come to ObamaCare as health care savings through euthanasia, are already pretty terrible. But one of the problems with the UK’s health care system is the large number of immigrants, both on the giving and the receiving ends.

Murad Ali, 39, accused the nurse, who was also Muslim, of being unprofessional after the incident at the £261m Queen’s Hospital in Romford, Essex.

Mr Ali said his two-year-old daughter began frothing at the mouth the day after being taken by ambulance to hospital with breathing problems. But he said that he and his frantic wife Tamseel Fatimah, 38, were ignored by busy staff at the 939-bed hospital’s A&E department and ward.

Both parents have trained to be doctors although they do not practice. The little girl had been taken twice previously to Queen’s A&E with a fever and cough before returning when she deteriorated on December 17.

Mr Ali, of Barking, Essex, said his little girl was in obvious respiratory distress but staff at the emergency unit, which was this month found by a health watchdog to be compromising patients safety, tried to send her home.

The father-of-two said the shocked couple were told by staff that the six-year-old hospital was short of doctors.
The baby was finally moved onto a children’s ward for treatment but her condition continued to worsen.

“Suddenly I saw my daughter turning blue with froth coming from her mouth,” Mr Ali said.

“I shouted at the nurses’ counter about her condition. At this one of the nurses on duty told me to be a good Muslim and leave the control to Allah.

“The nurse said she was a Muslim. I am a Muslim, too, but I do not expect a nurse to say this when my daughter needs medical help. It’s just not professional.”

It no doubt did not help matters any that we are talking about a little girl in a religion and culture that values boys more than girls.

But as Samuel Huntington noted, Islam is essentially fatalistic. It has a tragic view that accepts the inevitability of negative outcomes. That has unfortunate implications at the medical level, where the individual effort comes to seem meaningless. If Allah wants the little girl to live, she will. If he doesn’t, she won’t. Human effort is almost irrelevant.

What that means when Muslim doctors and nurses treat patients is very troubling. Even with the best of intentions, fatalism seeps into their actions and reactions. Death is inevitable. Medical workers cannot be held responsible for what Allah has chosen to do. What impact such attitudes have on the quality of health care in the UK is a troubling question that should be explored further.

  • Smote

    Britain ceased to be Great long ago. After two years of facing Hitler down, alone, she strove and… won the war. But Britain lost the peace. This is just another example. I bet Hitler is happy.

    • Mary Sue

      britain lost its mind.

      • BS77

        England is so LOST…..what a catastrophe…..brought on by the leftist liberal elites, their immigration delusions, their multicult diversity agendas…..sorry sorry olde Englande, once master of the seas, now a broken down welfare state on the wane

  • Rifleman

    This sounds familiar.

    A friend of mine was training Iraqi pilots after their liberation from the Baath party. Flight Instructors take trainees up to a safe altitude, put them into a bad situation, like a spin, and let them work their emergency procedures until they get out of it, or the ground gets too close and the instructor has to take over. He said if the Iraqi pilots didn’t recover quickly, they would get frustrated, throw their hands in the air, yell, “allah’s will be done,” in Arabic, and they were done trying. That is not the mentality to rely on in a life or death situation.

    • http://www.adinakutnicki.com AdinaK

      Of course, this is what a Sharia adhering army or civilian would think. And it is not the exception, it is the norm. They LOVE death, we LOVE & respect life. Therefore, mothers have no problem placing suicide vests on their kiddies, all for the "glory" of Allah.

      Again, westerners must understand that the sanctity of life, as revered in Judeo-Christian constructs, is an abomination to Islam. This is the way it is, and therein lies the main difference/caveat.

      Islam is attached to blood and is therefore (at least by western standards) barbaric. The evidence is herein – http://adinakutnicki.com/2012/07/13/islam-blood-a

      And how many westerners are looking forward to eating others – literally – http://adinakutnicki.com/2013/02/06/islam-barbari

      The self imposed OMERTA, re how barbaric Islam is, must cease. If not, western civilization will. Knowing what I do obligates to push forward with the above truths. There is no other option.

      Adina Kutnicki, Israel – http://adinakutnicki.com/about/

      • kafir4life

        Since we love life, and they love death, I see the win-win. Head over to the terrorist supporting ummah.com/forum. There you'll see examples of them talking about the wrong "style" of muslims, and those not quite muslim enough. They're really quite humorous over there. giggle-snort!

      • Rifleman

        While I agree with your post, that's not my point. They give up. Juneau-Christian belief is you have one life on this earth and you are obligated to live it as long as you can, while doing what good you can, and fight for your last breath. It isn't exclusive to our or their culture, but it's a huge dividing line, a fault of theirs, and a virtue of ours.

        Soldier discipline will beat large proportions of warrior courage and suicidal passion. The little Roman soldiers proved that against the giants of the North, and even the Greeks, whose culture and knowledge they largely adopted and built on with instructive organizational ability.

        Though you're obviously not among them, many can't comprehend radically different thinking and values and must attribute it to something they can understand.

  • Mary Sue

    I remember about hearing about the "Will of Allah" fatalism from Arabian Nights stories. No wonder their countries are all s***holes. Allah WANTS them to live in poverty and misery!

    • objectivefactsmatter

      "I remember about hearing about the "Will of Allah" fatalism from Arabian Nights stories. No wonder their countries are all s***holes. Allah WANTS them to live in poverty and misery!"

      That is 100% correct. Multiply her reaction many times in most circumstances that simply call for actions that go against tradition and or laziness, and you have…backwardness that is almost impossible to root out without exposing and refuting the root fallacies of Islam itself.

    • kafir4life

      allah HATES muslims.

  • objectivefactsmatter

    “The nurse said she was a Muslim. I am a Muslim, too, but I do not expect a nurse to say this when my daughter needs medical help. It’s just not professional.”

    She took the "Islamic" doctor's oath. Multiculturalism gets more deadly by the day.

  • objectivefactsmatter

    "But as Samuel Huntington noted, Islam is essentially fatalistic. It has a tragic view that accepts the inevitability of negative outcomes."

    Combined with Mo's example, it also leads to impulsiveness that combined with fatalism means that a male can justify any action at all if he's clever enough to know how to use Islam as Mo did. It leads to acute narcissism that Westerners can barely comprehend.

  • Anonymous

    It isn't just fatalism… There was a case in Winnipeg — a dying Jewish patient, Muslim doctors. Do I need to spell out "the conflict"? Then — hideously in Canada– there is the Leftist Death cult which screams for the killing of the terminally ill, under the notion of "right to death" — they, along with their Islamist colleagues, are nothing more than Nazis.

  • Chezwick

    I wonder how long before the Muslim father is ostracized at his local mosque?

    • Keiko_Infidel

      I thought about that, too. Islam is nothing if it isn't one huge mafia.

  • Keiko_Infidel

    How long will it take for non-Muslims to catch on that Islam is bad for humans, period. In every possible way.