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	<title>Comments on: CDC Data Shows Gun Violence is Tied to Unemployment Rates</title>
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		<title>By: Daniel Greenfield</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daniel Greenfield]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 17:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not saying, I&#039;m asking about the gang activity level in Spain. 
 
Gang activity in major American cities is responsible for as much as 80 percent of homicides. Organized crime increases firearm availability even in places where they are banned. 
 
There are going to be a variety of factors influencing homicide rate, many of them cultural, so even if two countries have the same unemployment rate and the same level of firearms availability, it doesn&#039;t mean that they will have the same homicide rate. 
 
This can be seen easily across different parts of the United States. 
 
Just because we&#039;re zeroing in on one of the factors does not mean that there are no other factors. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m not saying, I&#039;m asking about the gang activity level in Spain. </p>
<p>Gang activity in major American cities is responsible for as much as 80 percent of homicides. Organized crime increases firearm availability even in places where they are banned. </p>
<p>There are going to be a variety of factors influencing homicide rate, many of them cultural, so even if two countries have the same unemployment rate and the same level of firearms availability, it doesn&#039;t mean that they will have the same homicide rate. </p>
<p>This can be seen easily across different parts of the United States. </p>
<p>Just because we&#039;re zeroing in on one of the factors does not mean that there are no other factors. </p>
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		<title>By: Swanky</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Swanky]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 14:08:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Okay, but you&#039;re saying that the gang activity must be low in Spain to account for a non-proportional homicide rate. That would mean that unemployment does not equate to income from organized crime, and then to gang activity, so is the connection there specific to America? An application of Occam&#039;s Razor would purport that it&#039;s more likely a variable that directly relates to the outcome is responsible for that outcome, as opposed to a variable that is indirectly related, and only in certain cases. I.E. more guns = more homicides is more elegant than more unemployment = (sometimes) more gang activity = more homicides. The point is, we have to look at everything and gauge the most likely predictors based on research and application of elegance principles, not supposition. I&#039;m not saying guns are definitely the problem, I&#039;m saying that, if Spain DID have higher unemployment, lower gang activity, lower gun availability, and lower homicide, it is more likely the simpler relationship than the more convoluted one. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, but you&#039;re saying that the gang activity must be low in Spain to account for a non-proportional homicide rate. That would mean that unemployment does not equate to income from organized crime, and then to gang activity, so is the connection there specific to America? An application of Occam&#039;s Razor would purport that it&#039;s more likely a variable that directly relates to the outcome is responsible for that outcome, as opposed to a variable that is indirectly related, and only in certain cases. I.E. more guns = more homicides is more elegant than more unemployment = (sometimes) more gang activity = more homicides. The point is, we have to look at everything and gauge the most likely predictors based on research and application of elegance principles, not supposition. I&#039;m not saying guns are definitely the problem, I&#039;m saying that, if Spain DID have higher unemployment, lower gang activity, lower gun availability, and lower homicide, it is more likely the simpler relationship than the more convoluted one. </p>
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		<title>By: Swanky</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Swanky]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 13:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Swanky</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/cdc-data-shows-gun-violence-is-tied-to-unemployment-rates/comment-page-1/#comment-4161311</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Swanky]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 13:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I hate to be so dismissive, but I&#039;m sorry, if you listen to Rush Limbaugh, you lose all credibility with reasonable people and you&#039;re opinion is to be take as seriously as if you had blamed this all on My Little Pony. Anyone who really cares about discussing topics on an intelligent, learned level knows that Rush Limbaugh is not a valid source of any information. The worst part is, I&#039;m convinced he actually looks down on his listeners; he insults their intelligence every single day and bets that they&#039;ll buy what he&#039;s selling. They do, and he rakes in the dough. I bet he doesn&#039;t even really believe half of it. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate to be so dismissive, but I&#039;m sorry, if you listen to Rush Limbaugh, you lose all credibility with reasonable people and you&#039;re opinion is to be take as seriously as if you had blamed this all on My Little Pony. Anyone who really cares about discussing topics on an intelligent, learned level knows that Rush Limbaugh is not a valid source of any information. The worst part is, I&#039;m convinced he actually looks down on his listeners; he insults their intelligence every single day and bets that they&#039;ll buy what he&#039;s selling. They do, and he rakes in the dough. I bet he doesn&#039;t even really believe half of it. </p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Greenfield</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/cdc-data-shows-gun-violence-is-tied-to-unemployment-rates/comment-page-1/#comment-4159284</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daniel Greenfield]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 03:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Unemployment = Income from Organized crime = Gangs ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unemployment = Income from Organized crime = Gangs </p>
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		<title>By: Swanky</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Swanky]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2013 20:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[mindRider&#039;s point is valid and you didn&#039;t address it.  You merely shifted to the gang argument. Which is it? Gangs or unemployment? Because it certainly can&#039;t be guns, can it?  
This is the kind of cherry-picking that researchers like myself loathe.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mindRider&#039;s point is valid and you didn&#039;t address it.  You merely shifted to the gang argument. Which is it? Gangs or unemployment? Because it certainly can&#039;t be guns, can it?<br />
This is the kind of cherry-picking that researchers like myself loathe.  </p>
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		<title>By: Greg RN</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg RN]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2013 20:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One must take into account, That most firearm related Crimes are associated with stolen or illegally obtained firearms, not to Mention the Mentally imbalanced factor, desperation in Light of little HOPE or CHANGE in the availability of JOBS. This economy is a Recipe for Disaster. 
   The primary purpose of the Second Amendment is to Prevent the Tyranny of Shallow Empty Suits or Pantsuits, Be they in Government or University Professorships. So, No, Daniel must not agree, nor do I. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One must take into account, That most firearm related Crimes are associated with stolen or illegally obtained firearms, not to Mention the Mentally imbalanced factor, desperation in Light of little HOPE or CHANGE in the availability of JOBS. This economy is a Recipe for Disaster.<br />
   The primary purpose of the Second Amendment is to Prevent the Tyranny of Shallow Empty Suits or Pantsuits, Be they in Government or University Professorships. So, No, Daniel must not agree, nor do I. </p>
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		<title>By: Mary Sue</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mary Sue]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2013 18:24:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I know, right? 
 
If this is not extreme pie-in-the-sky, head-in-the-clouds utopianist thinking coming out of Obama, it&#039;s absolutely deliberate.   Deliberate because he is a totalitarian Communist at heart. 
 
Rush was saying this morning he couldn&#039;t understand WHY Obama was deliberately riling people up.  I do.  O is a Commie, and he&#039;s &quot;safe&quot; from any further Presidential Elections, and he&#039;s a narcissistic douche.  His EGO is causing him to do this because he has some sort of satisfaction rubbing people&#039;s faces in it. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know, right? </p>
<p>If this is not extreme pie-in-the-sky, head-in-the-clouds utopianist thinking coming out of Obama, it&#039;s absolutely deliberate.   Deliberate because he is a totalitarian Communist at heart. </p>
<p>Rush was saying this morning he couldn&#039;t understand WHY Obama was deliberately riling people up.  I do.  O is a Commie, and he&#039;s &quot;safe&quot; from any further Presidential Elections, and he&#039;s a narcissistic douche.  His EGO is causing him to do this because he has some sort of satisfaction rubbing people&#039;s faces in it. </p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Greenfield</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/cdc-data-shows-gun-violence-is-tied-to-unemployment-rates/comment-page-1/#comment-4157503</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daniel Greenfield]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2013 17:24:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How is the gang violence situation in Spain? 
 
Much of the homicide rate in the US is gang related. 
 
And gangs, like most sectors of organized crime, can always get their hands on what they need. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How is the gang violence situation in Spain? </p>
<p>Much of the homicide rate in the US is gang related. </p>
<p>And gangs, like most sectors of organized crime, can always get their hands on what they need. </p>
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		<title>By: Ar&#039;nun</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ar&#039;nun]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2013 17:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Weren&#039;t we once told by Obama himself that young men in Islamist countries are only terrorists because of their impovershed fate and lack of upward mobility in their societies???  
 
Maybe if we start paying people to blow themselves up in populated areas, we might get Obama&#039;s attention and sympathies. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Weren&#039;t we once told by Obama himself that young men in Islamist countries are only terrorists because of their impovershed fate and lack of upward mobility in their societies???  </p>
<p>Maybe if we start paying people to blow themselves up in populated areas, we might get Obama&#039;s attention and sympathies. </p>
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		<title>By: mindRider</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mindRider]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2013 16:50:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In Spain youth unemployment amount to 57% but I do not think the murder rate by and in that group has increased badly so the easy availability of guns in the USA must be of significant influence in the equation. 
And you Daniel must agree, no matter how dear you hold the constitution that access to guns is way too easy in America. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Spain youth unemployment amount to 57% but I do not think the murder rate by and in that group has increased badly so the easy availability of guns in the USA must be of significant influence in the equation.</p>
<p>And you Daniel must agree, no matter how dear you hold the constitution that access to guns is way too easy in America. </p>
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