Civilization and the Knockout Game

Daniel Greenfield, a Shillman Journalism Fellow at the Freedom Center, is a New York writer focusing on radical Islam. He is completing a book on the international challenges America faces in the 21st century.


vioThe Jewish part of Crown Heights is a narrow island a handful of blocks in length and width. Walk one block out of the way and you’re suddenly in a dangerous neighborhood

The names, Empire Boulevard, President Street, Eastern Parkway, Montgomery Street, reflect an old vanished grandeur. The men in top hats and tails walking up the brownstone steps, slightly tipsy after a party, have given way to car alarms and broken glass.

Kingston Avenue is its major commercial street full of bakeries, restaurants, butcher stores, a fish store and children’s clothing shops. Intersecting it is President Street; full of dilapidated mansions from its past history when it was known as Millionaire’s Row.

Eastern Parkway is a corridor that stretches to Prospect Park; Brooklyn’s answer to Central Park complete with lake, swans and even a major museum. Along that corridor you can see elaborate townhouses, some with stairways stretching three stories, brownstones and massive old theaters.

These were the dwelling places and playhouses of an old wealthy Brooklyn elite that considered itself the equal of Manhattan. Its homes were as expensive and tasteful as anything around Central Park. But those homes are now in ghetto territory. There are still graceful old apartment buildings with grand old names with the U’s spelled out in V’s, but they are crumbling, the asphalt outside is cracked and bored gang bangers wander around outside.

Crown Heights is an example of what happens when the expected white flight doesn’t occur leaving a small white neighborhood in the middle of the hood. Even most of the Orthodox Jews fled when the outbreaks of violence began. But one Chassidic group decided to stick it out and they form a ghetto inside the ghetto.

Those streets inside the island were never particularly safe. There were occasional muggings and assaults, forays by huddled packs of teenagers swiftly passing through the area at night, throwing a few punches and then vanishing again.

Giuliani, elected in part because of the Crown Heights Pogrom perpetrated under Mayor Dinkins whose staffer Bill de Blasio will take Bloomberg’s place, helped bring some safety back to the area. Crime rates fell, but the underlying danger never went away. An entire generation of kids has grown up never having seen the old bad Dinkins era or carried a switchblade for the days when the night comes early and even a short walk from the bus stop can have a bloody end.

The Knockout Game existed in my time; but we didn’t have a name for it. It just was. It was something that could happen to you so you had to stay alert. Looking into store windows was an easy trick and adopting the right body posture for when a pack of teenagers was about to pass you came as second nature.

You learned that the attackers liked to strike at people who weren’t looking. There was some instinct in them that made them, even when they outnumbered their victims, want to catch their prey by surprise. It wasn’t as good for them if you looked them calmly in the eyes and did not flinch. It ruined their fun.

They didn’t attack because they hated. The attack was their idea of fun. They only hated when their victims ruined their fun. In their minds, attacking was legitimate, defending against the attack wasn’t. They didn’t resent their victims unless they fought back.

That was life in New York City. It’s about to be life in New York City again.

Today gang culture is online. The existence of World Star Hip Hop and smartphones has made the consequences more public. In the eighties, the Knockout Game wasn’t taped and the average teenage thug pack didn’t have access to portable video cameras or any way to share the recordings of their triumphs.

There’s no doubt that the economy has played its part; but the presence and absence of violence isn’t mere economics. When violence is culture; then it’s a cultural problem. Throw together large amounts of fatherless teenagers with no real goal in life except, briefly to become NBA stars or rappers boasting about selling rock, and the Knockout game is inevitable.

Some of the Knockouters will drift back and forth out of prison, heading back to the old neighborhood to hang out with the old gang, catch a meal and a nap at their mother’s house, before urging their friends to go out looking for trouble. Others will get steady jobs. Some will even marry the mothers of their children.

Catch them two decades down the road and they’ll talk about how they almost wound up going down a bad path before they turned their lives around and they’ll have stories of their friends who went from mugging to dealing to shooting. But often those same men, now amiable and wise, shaking their heads at their past selves, will have left behind a trail of fatherless kids who are repeating the process all over again.

That is the cycle that has to be broken. The neighborhoods around Crown Heights are full of West Indian immigrants who come with united families and give way to a next generation that is as broken as the neighborhood. The social institutions that they build do not hold up. The churches host the elderly and single women. The community centers are where the homeless go. The teen sports leagues occasionally connect a teenage boy with an older mentor; but there are too many fatherless boys and not nearly enough responsible black men to step in and take the place of all those who aren’t.

It’s not just race that divides the residents of Crown Heights. It’s family.

72 percent of black babies are born to unmarried mothers. Chassidic Jews and their black neighbors both share a high birth rate; but they are divided by marriage and family.

On the “right side” of Eastern Parkway there are Chassidic Jewish families; mothers and fathers with babies in strollers, schoolgirls in uniforms and boys in black jackets and crumpled hats. On the other side of the divide are women waiting for their men, their sons and lovers, to come home. They tell their daughters not to be with a boy who won’t marry them and they tell their sons to respect women.

And still the next generation repeats the same cycle..

Civilization is not instinctive. It doesn’t come packaged in our DNA. It doesn’t even come from schools or books. It has to come from the defining human institution; the family.

Where there is no family, men and women wear the coat of civilization loosely and cast it aside easily. They treat violence and sexuality with the casualness that those outside civilization do. It is the family that civilizes violence and sexuality by endowing it with civilizational meaning. Without it, all that’s left are dark streets, single mothers, male wolf packs and Knockout games.

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  • tickletik

    1. Kill welfare. Welfare was instituted primarily to help single mothers. Once it became law, single motherhood became a viable option, that has to change. If a woman is single, then she must only get sustenance from private sources, never the government.

    2. Child support. Child support should only be instituted where the father is the husband of the mother. In cases where the child is out of wedlock, there must be ZERO support whatsoever. This means that if a woman is too lazy, stupid, weak, to bother with any of the literally hundreds of available contraceptives (including keeping her legs closed), then she gets to raise that baby by herself, with NO MONEY. You want to change this culture? STOP PROTECTING MORONS FROM THEIR BAD DECISIONS.

    3. No fault divorce must be cancelled, adultery must be SEVERELY PENALIZED. I know a case where the wife committed adultery and still got the house, the kid, the alimony and the child support. This makes a mockery of the concept of marriage and is the real reason why men are refusing to engage in it. Under these circumstances only a man who is a total idiot or a man with intense religious convictions will get married. See http://dalrock.wordpress.com for an excellent overview of the many problems we all face from these issues.

    4. If Christians want to be strong again, then they must start catering to the men NOT the women. A church composed of mostly old women and a few weak men is a WEAK CHURCH. A church composed of easily shamed men who go along with contradictory nonsense aimed at flattering the women IS A WEAK CHURCH.

    • Guest

      I agree with everything you wrote. The odds of any of this happening though is negligible. But I think that these single black mothers who have kids out of wedlock should rightly be stigmatized by society. They are not victims; they are a large part of the problem.

      • ziggy zoggy

        They should be forced into slave labor.

    • ziggy zoggy

      Good points, especially the one about no fault divorce, which is an abomination. I have a few questions though. Why would a married man pay his wife “child support?” Do you think divorced men should have to pay child (ex-wife) support?

      Most women are perfectly capable of earning a living, and unless a father abandons his children I don’t think he should have to pay his ex-wife a damned penny. When our courts – in all their wisdom – declare that a woman is fit to be the custodial parent, that should mean she is capable of supporting her children. It’s bad enough when courts take a man’s children away, but forcing him to subsidize his ex-wife is obscene. Women aren’t required by law to spend any “child” support money on their kids, you know.

      I also think that any justified child support payments should be in the form of a debit card that can only be used for food, household items such as cleaning supplies, toiletries, etc. and children’s products. No luxury items and gifts for boyfriends.

      Most retailers wouldn’t want the hassle of accepting such cards but places like Walmart would.

      • Seek

        No-fault divorce? Get real. Most black mamas and daddies don’t get married in the first place.

        • ziggy zoggy

          True but no fault divorce is ruining White families all across the country.

          • Debbie G

            My ex and I had shared parenting. We both worked full-time. What would you suggest in my case?

  • dave

    Oh Beautiful America. I weep for your future. Maybe this is the future for all of us. I’m from Australia and we see the beginnings of the same mentality. Culture of entitlement and liberals encouraging certain groups to seek “revenge” against the “oppressors”.

    • lyndaaquarius

      check out and support truthrevolt.org. gotta fight back.all the time. in a way that best suits you.

  • camp7

    I had a discussion with a retired anthropology professor a while ago. He informed me that families developed in early times for the sake of survival. Later, family groups formed into tribes that further developed cultural traits and advanced property conveyance which eventually instituted primitive societies and religious beliefs. It was necessary for the survival of our species. He assured me that religion was merely a meme to strengthen the continuance of the tribes.

    In the new world of materialism, society doesn’t depend on ‘families’ to survive. Or does it? Nowadays, people start families with casual choice, or not. It could be attributed to emotion, tradition, economics, imminent circumstances or whim. More a matter of personal choice than supporting the ‘tribe’. So what protects the survival of marriage and family? Could it be an emphasis on love and trust? Or, could a large part of it be associated with the belief in a higher moral standard, a spiritual will that the professor so secularly defines as a meme for survival. He was closer to the truth than he realized.

    After reading David Greenfield’s poignant article about the principle of family, I handed the screen to my bride. She read it and of course liked it. But she already understood this, she spends most of her life living for her family.

    • Geomani

      Religion is merely a meme? Millions would beg to differ.

      • camp7

        As I differed with the anthropologist. The point being, that what the professor ruled as a meme was in fact a reality of spiritual consciousness. He was close in the assumption that religion has a significant affect on our survival.

    • The March Hare

      About 10 years ago, after reading Thomas Sowell citing another quote from the Communist Manifesto, I decided it was time to read it in full. I had always known what it was about and many specifics, but had never read it.
      It was like reading the platform of the current democrat party. There is the part about breaking up the American family which was a stumbling block to instituting communism. I had always known that and had watched it progress for years, but where we are at today is astounding. Disposing of the morals and religions that held our culture together along with government programs to support those that just reproduce without care for the need of nurturing and guidance provided by an intact family, has put us into being very close to just an unruly mob with their hands out.
      Karl Marx’s words have indeed shaped this world and will probably be the cause of the next world war. Maybe sooner than we think.

      • camp7

        You get it March Hare. God bless you. Family, community and values are the core of our society. War is an extension of beliefs.

        Good post!

    • PAthena

      If the anthropology professor said what you said, he is basically wrong unless he is describing the origins of all families, animals as well. Most animals form families, birds, bees, ants, included.
      You are right about boys who grow up without fathers. They tend become violent, while girls who grow up without fathers tend to become promiscuous. So the cycle perpetuates itself.

    • Daniel Greenfield

      It is a problem. Family is much less necessary. That lowers birth rates and extends marriage ages.

      Socialism provides the support that makes this possible and then faces a birth gap that it tries to fill with immigrants from more tribal societies resulting in everything from multicultural violence to Islamic terrorism.

      • Guy Fromage

        Theodore Dalrymple makes this point conclusively, in “Life at the Bottom.” That some demographics in different countries are more notoriously affected by socialistic policies regrettably breeds some of the race-based sentiments expressed on this thread. I hope conservatives decide to not follow leftists in their “race consciousness” agenda. Anything which artificially divides us as a nation, serves those who would put us all in chains.

        • Daniel Greenfield

          The left’s race consciousness is manipulated and artificial. I do think people should take pride in their roots and their culture and heritage. I don’t think that they should let the left define it for them in wholly meaningless black/white oppressor/oppressed terms.

          • Drakken

            The whole melting pot experiment is now a boiling pot under pressure as a result of progressive policies, now we wait for it to boil over.

          • Daniel Greenfield

            It’ll boil when there’s no more money for free stuff without mass expropriations

  • Bruno

    Sorry, but I wont make excuses for these thugs. There is no valid excuse for savagely attacking an innocent stranger and it isn’t a “game,” it’s a crime. They don’t need to be understood they need to be stopped.

    That’s my $0.02. Keep the change.

    • BS77

      The knock out game is a form of terrorism. People get smart. Watch where you are. Don’t wear head phones. Walk l with someone else. Stay out of the garbage neighborhood. Learn self defense.

    • Paul of Alexandria

      It’s not an excuse, it’s a cause. These kids aren’t doing it because they’re black, they’re doing it because black families have been wrecked by Democrat policies.

      • carpe diem 36

        i say two things did this: bad education and bad welfare.

  • antioli

    Where is the JDL ? Some how it got wiped out most likely by liberal Jewish organizations; maybe the same organizations that threaten local Hadassah with loss of funds if they invite” anti illegal Immigration” speakers .

    • Daniel Greenfield

      It hasn’t existed in a while as a real functioning entity. Liberal Jewish groups who liked the Black Panthers weren’t fond of having a Jewish version of them.

  • P Billingsley

    A cursory examination of the twenty one civilizations built by man argues quite convincingly against the “DNA-is-meaningless” theory.

    • Daniel Greenfield

      I’m referring to civilized behavior.

    • nightspore

      What the hell does that mean?

  • Cathryn D

    Does poverty produce bad behavior or does bad behavior produce poverty? The “knockout game” was unheard of during the Great Depression, a time of extreme poverty.

  • truebearing

    Yet another brilliant piece, Daniel. So evocative, with such focused contrast. A perfect microcosm of the endless struggle between moral people and those who choose evil.
    It certainly comes as no surprise that the sins of these fathers are visited unto the third generation…and anyone living nearby. The question is: what do we do with those who enjoy a culture embedded with evil?

    • Daniel Greenfield

      Thank you. There isn’t much we can do. We can stop catering to bad choices. We can rebuild a moral culture. And hope that makes the difference.

      • Guest

        Daniel – big fan.

        I think black women (obviously) are a big part of the problem. It takes two to tango. They must be penalized and stigmatized for having kids out of wedlock with multiple fathers. I’m not holding my breath though…

        • SCREW SOCIALISM

          Any child born out of wedlock should have a middle name of “BASTARD”.

        • Daniel Greenfield

          It’s a culture. People become interchangeable parts of it.

          • Western_Canadian

            If you go back a half dozen years ago or so, there was a short term variant, called, if memory serves ‘happy slapping’. There was no racial (or more accurately, racist) component to it….. Jerk would approach attended victim, a blow (slap) to the side of the head, victim went down, Jerk would run off laughing, and co-Jerk would record and upload to the internet…. A couple of intended victims went down, but got up and creamed the Jerk, who went down, crying like babies….. It soon died out in that form. When a couple of race haters pick the wrong victim and lose, will it be the beginning of the end of this kind of cowardly thuggery, or would it result in an escalation? I think it would soon die out. Fingers crossed.

      • Charles Martel

        I wish it were that easy, but trying to conquer nature has proven to have disastrous consequences. You must have a high enough overall percentage of higher or medium IQ to achieve a higher moral civilization. Science has shown again and again that blacks on average do not have this.

        I know this sounds very bad, but i am not advocating eliminating blacks. I do advocate quarantining them or finding some other way of helping them while at the same time protecting ourselves.

        To see an example of what i want to avoid, look to South Africa. The brutality the whites are living under is deplorable.

        • Daniel Greenfield

          You need a certain level of intelligence to be aware of moral decisions and to make them. But IQ doesn’t align with morality within the average non-moronic range. If it did, high IQ people would genuinely be “better” and could be trusted to be more ethical.

          • tagalog

            Both Aristotle and Plato (and two and a half millennia worth of their intellectual followers) would disagree that IQ doesn’t align with morality. They would say that the most intelligent are the people best equipped to either see the form of the good (in Plato’s case) or to benefit from experience (in Aristotle’s case) in developing virtue.

          • Rob Hobart

            And they were (and are) wrong.

          • tagalog

            There are a lot of people smarter than you and me put together, who have worked and thought in many different ages, who would disagree. I will make my choice to give them the benefit of the doubt.

          • Anukem Jihadi

            This is just nonsense because if they are better equipped to see morality they are also better equipped to see the potential for immorality.
            In fact studies I’ve heard about confirm that intelligent children are more likely to lie to get what they want.
            Here you are confusing intellectual capacity with some kind of predetermined predilection to do good.
            A kind of romantic notion that the most intelligent are also somehow the most noble since they represent what is finest about man. Sorry to say, nonsense.
            Although as you point out many intelligent men have shared the same conceit. For that is what it is.

          • keithbreedlove

            If there’s no moral compass . . . .

          • tagalog

            What’s nonsense? That intelligent people can be ruled by forces that don’t have anything to do with intelligence?

          • keithbreedlove

            Sure. How many high IQ people were ardent followers of Hitler, Lenin/Stalin/Mao/Che/Castro and look at the deaths they caused. And look at the number of high IQ kool-aid drinkers apologizing for Obama. A high IQ does not mean that they are right, or that they are moral, or that their ideas are any better than “everyman’s.”

          • tagalog

            How many low-IQ people were ardent followers of the same totalitarians murderers? How many low-IQ fans of Obama? Hmmm?

            And in response to the same forces that are not related to intelligence?

          • Nabuquduriuzhur

            It was the people with high IQ’s but no wisdom that put this nation on the course it is.

            For example, most of the “gifted” women I went to high school and college with got into drugs.

          • lyndaaquarius

            The Nazis came out of a highly “civilized”,sophisticated German culture. Your point is right on.

        • ziggy zoggy

          I think you’re confusing low intelligence with high aggression. And you can’t honestly believe Blacks should be quarantined.

          If more Americans were allowed to carry sidearms I’m sure crime rates would drop. A psychological test for all applicants to carry would eliminate most of the people unsuitable for a permit.

          • tagalog

            If more Americans were allowed to carry firearms and crime rates dropped, that would be an argument in favor of a high degree of correlation between IQ and morality.

      • lyndaaquarius

        how could it not?

  • DaCoachK

    Wrong on one point–these people DO hate white folks.

    • A Z

      But it was taught to them.

    • Daniel Greenfield

      They hate them, but that’s not why this happens. Black on black violence is even more common.

      • ziggy zoggy

        Is it? I’d thought that the majority of victims of Black violence are White. Blacks are the main perpetrators of violence against Blacks but not the main victims so far as I know.

        • Johnnnyboy

          Blacks are the main victims. That is well established.

          • ziggy zoggy

            Not according to the FBI’s website.

      • lyndaaquarius

        it’s been glamorized,made “cool” by the Gangsta,prison ,Rap culture.It’s “cool” to be cold-hearted.They are this way because they can be.Also,I’ve noticed a startling lack of Romance. I never see young black teenagers kissing or holding hands.Women aren’t adored.The music in the black community is not about love or yearning for love. This was not the case in the 50′s,60′s 70′s music,which was all about heartbreak and yearning.Maybe MTV had a hand in all this .Many factors. No real consequences. Leftism allowed to run amok.The Leftist policies that ruptured the Black family are rooted in a profound lack of respect for people.

  • http://fdnyretiree.com/ Ed FDNYRetiree

    It ought to be called something else. It is more than just a “knockout game.”

    See HERE: http://fdnyretiree.com/RACE/the_Negro_Knockout_Game.htm

    • laura r

      its this term which feeds the black deniers, the radio hosts etc. also its a violent assault.

  • Thomas J.Stratford

    Everywhere blacks congregate is a “dangerous neighborhood”. The simple fact is, the more blacks in your area the more violent crime you can expect, as this is a statistical constant, with no data to the contrary.

    • Guest

      Yep. And people have to pay the ‘black tax’ in the form of paying for private schools to get away from them. At this point, I think most people are getting fatigued of them

    • laura r

      i lived in an area where there was a small public housing building on the corner. 98% of the 911 calls to police were from that building alone. (fighting amoungst the tenents, stabbings, breakins). i think they were west indian. it was the only corner which had litter all around. since the area was rapidly gentrifying, i doute this project still exists.

    • dennis x

      I live in a Black suburb just outside of a major city . We have NO crime! whites please stay away, we’re just fine.

      • mikeh420

        Sorry, but Whitey is NOT your biggest threat, despite the fact that it’s been drummed into your head since you can remember. For a mere 12% of the nations population, YOUR PEOPLE commit 50+% of crimes.

        • Marlin B. Newburn

          Mike: Note the “x” after the name in the poster. He’s a member of “The Nation of Islam”. You won’t get honesty from the guy so I suggest to not respond to him. After all, we’re the devil, etc.

          • dennis x

            You are an inbred idiot.

          • Drakken

            Now that is funny kafir coming from you.

          • dennis x

            I know the meaning of the word “kafir” unlike the moderator. It’s a good thing your on line.

          • Drakken

            I deal with your kind all the time, I would be happy to be your huckleberry.

          • DENNIS X

            Again, like your mother talk is cheap. Why don’t you go back ti Africa.

          • dennis x

            So exactly how long were you in prison?

          • Drakken

            I used to put people like you in prison, but thanks for playing.

          • dennis x

            Never been and not going. I guess the brothers in South Africa put you and your kind out of business. One farmer , one bullet!

          • ziggy zoggy

            Racist dweeb.

          • Drakken

            So SA should be a prime example of what happens when the savages take over, it is a failed state, just Like Rhodesia, period . Unless your in the Boer regions. In America, you make up 12-13 % of the population, whites make up 72-78 %. You do the math, if you get all Zulu on us, it won’t be good for you and yours.

          • ziggy zoggy

            Denise x,

            Why, would you like to sucker punch him?

          • dennis x

            I live and let die. But if he was in my presence and used that word 1. it wouldn’t be a sucker punch because he’d know it was coming 2. it wouldn’t just be a punch! So, zzbutt do you know what the word means?

          • Drakken

            Funny thing is, you people never attack one on one, it is always in groups. So therefore I have nothing to fear one on one. Though you people can always be depended on for your complete lack of impulse control and it doesn’t take much to provoke you people. Always remember kafir, chance favors the prepared mind.

          • ziggy zoggy

            devil x,

            You can write anything you want on an anonymous message board. And yes, kaffir/kafir is just another inoffensive word for Black people that racist Blacks decided was offensive somehow.

          • Friend

            Ever hear of the “Blackout game”?
            You will.

        • dennis x

          Doing great without you , don’t need you, please stay away.

          • ziggy zoggy

            Denise x,

            I don’t think you have to worry about making any new friends, moron.

      • Drakken

        Yeah kafir, whitey is the problem, maybe you should take a bemused look at any African nation and see what your people are capable of.

      • ziggy zoggy

        Dingus x,

        As usual you are lying out of your @ss. A Black suburb with no crime. Fantasyland is an attraction at Disney, not a suburb.

        • dennis x

          In your mentality challenged racist mind of course you can’t handle the idea of Black People who are not rappers , drug dealers etc. but have money. And no one wants to be your friend zzbutt. I have simply asked that whites stay way.

          • ziggy zoggy

            Drooler x,

            There isn’t a crime free Black suburb in the entire country. In fact, every single Black neighborhood is a scum pit. Decent Blacks prefer to live with Whites and Asians. Not only that, but every Black area relies on Whitey to sustain it.

            No wonder racist turds like you are so frustrated.

          • dennis x

            Good keep thinking it doesn’t exist and that way you’ll stay the hell away!

          • dennis x

            The taxes I pay go to help support your meth habit and allows you to continue having sex with your cousin. Get off that govment cheese and get a job.

          • Drakken

            We feel the same way, stay away from us and we will be just fine.

      • truebearing

        You are lying your fool head off. If you honestly wish to prove your claim, name the suburb and the major city. If not, stop posting here, among your intellectual and moral superiors and go to a website more in line with your malignant beliefs.

        What makes you think whites want to live in your imaginary suburb? And why are you commenting here if you want no whites around? You make no sense.

  • A Z

    “Crown Heights is an example of what happens when the expected white flight doesn’t occur”

    This is what everyone knows, but the left does not care. The left blamers white flight for the death (bankruptcy) of Detroit.

    According to the left cities would be vibrant, schools would not fail, and everything would be better except for white flight. They have added to the sins of white flight to include AGW and unsustainability. They hate strips malls, roads and suburbs. Having a yard with some grass and a garden is a crime.

    The left should not concern itself with unsustainability. If it is happening , they caused it. If energy is not proceed right is is their fault. they set up artificial institution such as Citizen Utility Boards (CUB) to govern the price of energy. Now they bemoan the fact of artificially low energy prices. Now they want to tinker again and we will suffer again.

    The left does not take responsibility. It was not conservatives that set up a CUB.

    Now as Mr Greenfield amply points out we have an example of of the quality of life of white people if they do not migrate.

    • Daniel Greenfield

      The left needs catch 22 villains to blame for its failures. If whites leaves, they’re guilty of white flight. If they stay, they’re guilty of causing racial tensions. If they come back, they’re guilty of gentrification.

      • laura r

        whites are the new jews. if youre jewish & white, watch out.

      • SCREW SOCIALISM

        LOL! Great!

      • A Z

        Nicely said. Oft time I used too many words.

        People say the brevity is the soul of wit and since we are in a culture war, we are going to need all the verbal and logical ammunition we can get.

        Here is the point. Twitter uses 144 characters or less. You comment was 219 characters. It was great and I wish I would have thought of it myself.

        You should consider shortening it and putting it on twitter. You might already be using twitter and I just don’t know.

        Last 3 sentences were 159 characters. Those last 3 sentences so good, people are going to steal them.

        • Daniel Greenfield

          I am on Twitter but brevity is not my strong point. This article started out at nearly 1,800 words. It’s down to around 1,200 now.

          • A Z

            I remember being told “Less is more” at times. We are in a culture war and messaging is important. I just noticed that those last 3 sentences, which you wrote, were close to being perfect.

            Talking about the culture War I went on to the Alexa site and see that FPM has twice as much traffic as a year ago. Grats

          • Daniel Greenfield

            It is important. I dip my toes into Twitter occasionally, but I’m not really 140 characters

          • lyndaaquarius

            good news!

  • tagalog

    Thank you for making the point that the Knockout Game was around for a long time before it was called “the Knockout Game.”

    • Daniel Greenfield

      Nothing is really new. Just the names change.

  • salty2012

    Daniel, did you forget to mention this is black on white crime that, that Obama apparently approves of? Did you cop out on us in this column?

    • Daniel Greenfield

      Do I have to state the obvious each time?

  • keithbreedlove

    Are there similar experiences or pathologies evident in Europe? In parts of Europe (Germany, for example), fatherless births and fatherless households have been accepted for decades yet they don’t seem to have the same extent of lawlessness and anti-social behavior that we see here. Any thoughts?

    • Hymie

      Check out Great Britain. The problem is the same or worse among the white underclass thanks to similar social programs that have been around longer. Reference Dr. Theodore Dalrymple for specifics.

      • Marlin B. Newburn

        Dr. Dalrymple’s book, “Life at the Bottom” should be mandatory reading for all social work and political science majors in universities. It’s a true gem.

    • Daniel Greenfield

      There is. It may not be on the same scale but white areas where both the fatherhood quotient and income quotient are low are not terribly pleasant.

    • Harald Eigerson

      German politzei don’t play from what I’ve seen. My buddy was giving me a ride back to Coleman barracks outside of Mannheim and he got pulled over for speeding. I was watching and listening to my buddy talking to one of the officers and then I started wondering where the other one was. I turned around and realized that the other one had been behind me the whole time providing his partner with over watch by having a pistol pointed at the back of my head. Of the three times that I’ve had a gun head on me, it was the least scary and with the least likely chance of me getting shot.

      As far as racial sensitivity goes the barracks anecdotes indicate that if you whipped out the race card, the polizei would actually beat you harder. Being white wasn’t a pass either. There were plenty of stupid white and anything in between drunk GI’s who tied to resist/flee arrest. They beat you hard enough to break through any alcohol induced fog and make you cry.

      • Drakken

        Ah I miss those days, the Polizei today is not like they were 20 years ago, now they don’t do anything to the minorities because as soon as somebody pulls the race card, all heck breaks lose. 20 years ago they would break your face for just looking at them wrong.

      • Crassus

        Sounds a little like what this corrupt New Orleans cop once said on an episode of 60 Minutes, “We’d take a white man down faster than we would a black. We figured he’d be less likely to sue for some civil rights violation.”

      • keithbreedlove

        Maybe effective policing is the answer. I’ve lived there a lot. I’ve seen and heard the stories. I was there when a group of American kids in Darmstadt were “Steinewerfer” — stone-throwers — who threw a concrete block off of an autobahn overpass and killed a women driving beneath. 8-1/2 yrs. I still think it’s more than that, though, since the pathologies of the young have not risen to the level we see here, and their futures are even more hopeless — pigeon-holed in 3rd (!!) grade as to how far they can advance (or not), limitations in getting jobs because of the difficulty employers have in reducing staff, nanny state, high taxes, etc. Maybe somebody else has some ideas.

        • Drakken

          The more the state takes control of an economy, the sooner it crumbles. Just look in the states, the police have gone from being police who kept order, to being revenue collectors who care more about making people pay for their salaries than keeping order.

          • ziggy zoggy

            Yeah, and they ticket and jail as many people as possible to keep that money coming.

    • Hymie

      British soccer hooligans.

  • iluvisrael

    There’s a ‘daddy’ – the government and all the taxpaying ‘aunts’ and ‘uncles’

    • Daniel Greenfield

      True

  • http://www.clarespark.com/ Clare Spark

    Jewish targets suggest to me both manifest and latent anti-Semitism, which has multiple causes, including black supremacy, supported by the Left. See http://clarespark.com/2012/09/29/index-to-blogs-on-antisemitism/. “Index to blogs on anti-Semitism.” Jews are a symbol of modernity and the rule of money.

  • margstar

    Francis Schaefer wrote about the leftist attacks on western/JudeoChristian values in the early 70s. The cost is higher than we can even imagine.

    • Seek

      Oh, please. I’m 10 times safer around a white freethinker than I am in the company of a black Christian. Liberal “attacks” on Judeo-Christian values are not the issue. Blacks simply are genetically more predisposed toward violence than whites. It has something to do with evolution. That’s not a concept Francis Schaffer would grasp.

      • margstar

        No, Francis Schaefer would not agree with evolution concept. Sounds somewhat racist to me. ALL people are capable of violence and sin, and upbringing, environment has some relevance but so does free will. And a govt that rewards immoral behavior led by leaders who only want power is a time bomb.

        • ziggy zoggy

          All true, but the more freedoms and privileges Blacks have got, the more violent they’ve become.

        • Drakken

          You haven’t been to Africa have you? Same there as it is here. Same behaviors, same attitudes, same brutality.

      • Daniel Greenfield

        Depends on the white freethinker (Lenin) and the Black Christian (Ben Carson)

        There’s still quite a range of variations.

        • Drakken

          Ben Carson and folks like him are the exception, not the rule.

        • Seek

          Lenin was no Freethinker. It’s a great myth that freethinking and atheism mean the same thing. They don’t. A freethinker is simply someone who is skeptical of absolutist claims, whether of Communism, Christianity, Islam, Fascism or some other closed belief system. As for black Christians, plenty have gone bad, including the clergy.

      • Rob Hobart

        There is no scientific evidence whatsoever for your claim.

  • Fishrrman

    From the article:

    [[ Civilization is not instinctive. It doesn’t come packaged in our DNA. It doesn’t even come from schools or books. It has to come from the defining human institution; the family. ]]

    Mr. Greenfield is a brilliant thinker and writer, one of today’s best — but he’s wrong on this one.

    Civilization -is- a product of instinct, and it is “racial”. It -does- come “in the DNA”, as evidenced by the emergence and construction of Western Civilization (and also by the civilizations of North Aisa).

    A hypothetical question:
    Suppose neither European whites, nor Asians, nor islamics, nor even North Africans had ventured south of the Sahara. No contact, none at all, with the populations of sub-Saharan Africa for 700 years. No slave ships. Nothing.

    What would those populations be like today?
    Would they have yet developed the wheel?
    Or written language?

    I contend that the sub-Saharan natives would be little different, or no different at all, to their forebears of 1,000 AD, or of 1,500 AD. Essentially, still [what we in The West once referred to as] “savages”, with a “culture” that embodied little or nothing of what can be referred to as “civilization”.

    Western Civilization exists because the “DNA” of those who created it, gave them the tools from which to create it. Including intellectual tools.

    Our civilization -did- result from our DNA…

    - The Fishrrman

    • laura r

      1/2 dozen of one, 6 of the other. its both biological & cultural. in general i dont gave a damn, i cross the street if i see a group of thug type of teens. no apologies. dont like it? too bad.

    • Charles Martel

      You are correct. Mr. Greenfield did not drill down far enough in his logic. He did not use scientific data that is readily available. The statement, “civilization doesn’t come packaged in our DNA” shows a lack of knowledge of DNA. Our DNA determines our intelligence. It is our intellect which gives us the ability to understand the concept of civilization, and the ability to come up with unique ideas to propagate civilization. So, while civilization does not come packaged in our DNA, the potential for conceptualizing civilization does indeed come packaged in our DNA.

    • Drakken

      Bravo Sir! You nailed it perfectly. I say that if it wasn’t for us westerners they would still be stunted in their development. Frankly, we should bring colonization back again, at least those 4th world countries ran semi-well.

    • ziggy zoggy

      What if the White and Asian barbarians had never come into contact with more advanced White and Asian cultures?

    • Harald Eigerson

      If you want to look at it scientifically as an experiment you could compare the countries of Haiti and the Dominican Republic. They’re both on the same island (Hispaniola) yet they might as well exist in two different worlds.
      One is an AIDS ridden hellhole where violence is rife and people were starving to death. The DR on the other hand has either the second or third best economy in the region based on weather your looking at the Caribbean states or south america as a whole. It is not as if the DR got all good stuff either. The Haitians at one time ruled the entire island until the Dominicans got tired of being slaughtered, raped and plundered.

      The Dominicans have a fair share of West African DNA mixed in with the Taino, Carib, Spanish and other contributors. The big difference from what I can see is that they’ve rejected an identity centered on African identity and nursed grievance of past slavery and colonialism basically black identity politics. Trujillo, in a rare act of decency, offered refuge for up to 100,000 Jews when FDR, Churchill, and Mackenzie King were turning back Jews to Hitler. Is it a coincidence that probably one of the few acts of decency on Trujillo’s part has resulted in a blessing that continues to this day? The DR has problems but it is not the basket case that Haiti is.

  • Seek

    One can assert all one wants about how “family” is driving these crimes. But we all know, deep down, the issue is race. A hundred white kids from “broken” homes put together aren’t as likely to sucker punch an innocent pedestrian as two blacks from a married-couple home. The knockout game in a given neighborhood will cease to exist when the last black turns out the lights.

    • Guy Fromage

      FBI stats don’t bear out your polemic. The substance of this knockout game amounts (usually) to an act of aggravated assault. Whites commit 63.9% of such assaults, while black commit 33.6%. This equate to a per capita rate of approximately 3.5 times greater rate of assaults perpetrated by blacks, than by whites. For your contrived example to bear any resemblance to reality, blacks would have to commit assaults at a rate in excess of 50 times greater than whites.

    • Daniel Greenfield

      White children from single parent homes have higher incarceration rates.

  • Charles Martel

    “72 percent of black babies are born to unmarried mothers. Chassidic Jews and their black neighbors both share a high birth rate; but they are divided by marriage and family.”

    This is one of the outcomes of the problem. It is NOT the root of the problem. You hinted at that when you discussed the culture of violence. What makes black men want to leave so many children fatherless? That is the question. If you look back far into history, and you look at places in Africa and at Haiti, you will see the same violence. Only when black people are left in their native small tribal units do they do well as a family group.

    I do not hate black people. But i realize they are different with differing cultural values unlike the old values that built great modern well functioning societies. Say what you will, but nature and genetics are very difficult to overcome. Either we will die out as a white race, something many such as Oprah are hoping for. We can inter breed until there is only one homogenous race like my young nephew believes we will get to as he marries his black fiancée. Or we can separate.

    • Daniel Greenfield

      That’s a complex question and I don’t think there are easy answers. DNA, like all the other explanations, doesn’t account for all the variations in human behavior.

      • Drakken

        When warfare and survivability are concerned, all morality goes out the window.

        • Daniel Greenfield

          I mean we abandon the idea that people choose to be moral.

          • Drakken

            Ok I understand you now.

          • ziggy zoggy

            George Washington chose to be moral. It was very important to him, and he was smart enough to know he had to strive for it. A great man, in my opinion.

    • Drakken

      We will be forced by circumstance to separate. It really is that simple.

  • v

    All of those thugs know exactly what they are doing. Not having a father, mother, sister or a pet does not excuse criminal behavior, otherwise we are bound to label those who commit those crimes insane due to societal ills. Each of those wretched poor excuse of human beings possesses a braion and a sense of right and wrong, it is just that they are not willing to use it. If we begin to say that society has failed them due to the lack of a father, then we justify their action as legitimate and excuse them. Knocking someone out while not looking just for the fun of it is a caculated, vicious and criminal act not to be condoned, but to be condemned and punished regardless of the reason. We do ned to put some responsibilty on their upbringing, but the overwhelming responsibility rests with the individual committing the act. The fact that they are laughing and make it a game only reflects the fact that they have been desensitized vis a vis violence and killing. We need to turn the table on them and place them in the same predicament by putting in a controlled setting where they are purposefully bullied and attacked and find out how they like it.

    • Daniel Greenfield

      It’s not an excuse. I’m not condoning it. I’m discussing what’s going on.

      And they do come out of those same settings.

  • SCREW SOCIALISM

    Next time the Occupy Wallstreet slobs pitch tent, send a bunch of “Knockout Game” players to the encampment.

    • Crassus

      +1

  • Charles Martel

    I realize my views are certainly not mainstream conservative, but then again, i am a conservative in the late Lawrence Auster camp. But lets debate the issue. Voting me down is okay, but i would like to know your reason why. We are hoefully not liberal lurkers, so we should be able to engage in genuine open discussion without name calling or trying to stop the dialogue by calling someone racist. By the way, calling me racist in no way bothers me.

  • Marlin B. Newburn

    “They didn’t attack because they hated. The attack was their idea of fun. They only hated when their victims ruined their fun. In their minds, attacking was legitimate, defending against the attack wasn’t. They didn’t resent their victims unless they fought back.”

    With all respect to Mr. Greenfield, this paragraph is in error, very much so. If it wasn’t about hate the black mob attackers would keep the fun activity in their own neighborhoods. Theirs is a black toxic-tribal activity.

    Working as a forensic/clinical psychologist and counselor in the prison and criminal justice systems for over 30 years, one learns quickly that black assailants are obsessed with race. They are functionally illiterate, but a message of hate against non-blacks has been communicated to them beginning at a very early age. And they absorbed it.

    When interviewing, counseling, or evaluating them, violent blacks say that non-blacks are racist against black people even though they can say why or how. Most all will also say that blacks can’t be racist. They also can’t explain that comment either. They say they “heard it.”

    When pressed, some will say that they learned about racism, meaning any non-black who criticizes their lifestyle, from listening to assorted national and local race-hustlers on TV, a parent or relative, or leftist politicians; also on the tube. (Television is their window to the world outside of the ghetto.)

    The basis of their resentment is ancestral suffering at the hands of white devil slave masters, and current ways of “keepin’ the bruthas down.” Except for the last quote, I’m paraphrasing.

    None can answer as to who has kept them from getting an education, learning a skill, or from earning a living. And none could answer who enslaved them or a family member. They chuckle or giggle at those questions while looking at the floor. All they believe is that non-blacks, especially whites, have prevented black people from getting ahead in life.

    Black predators, as a group, are completely programmed by those who claim to speak for them. They are the ultimate adult-children sock-puppet “useful idiots.”

    • Daniel Greenfield

      I’m not saying that they didn’t hate. They certainly did. But black on black violence is quite commonplace. Racism is a background here, but casual violence is the driving factor.

      • Marlin B. Newburn

        Chronic violence is a cultural trait among blacks steeped in resentment politics which is to say black communities.

        Said trait, violence-prone people, is also a pathological category noted in the DSM -IV and V. In other words, it’s a sign of group mental illness. Of course blacks assault and kill other blacks, but “The Knockout Game”, meaning assaults specifically against non-blacks is the point of your article, no? It is also used more often now because it’s race-neutral and thus probably an effective dodge from being called a racist.

        The other names for the practice is “Polar Bear Hunting”, or “Beat Whitey Night.” This is a race-specific crime.

    • Drakken

      You should take a trip to Africa, the same behavioral tribal patterns are there as well. So the nurture narrative is basically false.

      • ziggy zoggy

        You make it seem like all Black Africans are the same. They aren’t.

        • Drakken

          Not at all, there are always exceptions to the rule. ie Ben Carson, Thomas Sewell, etc. But their voices are vilified and made null and void by the black community as uncle toms.

          • ziggy zoggy

            I’ve actually had people tell me that so and so is a “Tom” because he “acts White.” Ridiculous. As if speaking American standard English, graduating from high school and living a normal life is “White” and being an anti-social, ret@rded racist is preferable.

            I was referring to Black Africans though, not Americans. I’ve met a lot of nice people from African countries.

          • Drakken

            I have met a lot of nice people from Africa to, but I am not about to embrace a culture that thrives and strives on tribal brutality and witch doctor thinking.

  • mtnhikerdude

    “There isn’t much we can do ” . That is the sad truth .
    Daniel , how do we rebuild a moral culture ? I’m approaching 77 and am afraid
    Marie Louise De La Ramee’s “Take hope from the heart of a man and you make him a beast of prey ” has come home to roost.

    • Daniel Greenfield

      Rebuilding it from the top would be hard. Rebuilding it from the bottom requires conservative cultural networks that create micro-cultures and then try to influence the larger culture.

      To some extent this is taking place already.

    • ziggy zoggy

      Are you implying that punks play the sucker punch game because they’re hopeless?

  • mtnhikerdude

    Daniel ,your readers would welcome a column addressing some viable solutions to the mess America is in.
    Do you believe this administration is maliciously “Detroiting America ?

  • Elizabeth Cape Cod

    Most of these attacks are committed by marauding groups of blacks. Because of this fact, the natural tendency now would be to cross the street if you see a group of blacks coming your way. However, liberals are calling this impulse racist. They would have us stay the course and put ourselves in possible jeopardy so as not to hurt anyone’s feelings.

  • Drakken

    All of this bloody nonsense is going to come to a head sooner or later when someone doesn’t play by the narrative and be a victim and shoots a handful of these feral black youts. Then you going to see all hell break lose as the race grievance theater crowd blame whitey for the problem and whitey not going sit back and take it anymore. There is no melting pot anymore, there is a boiling pot. We are not Americans anymore, we have become Balkanized hyphenated sub groups.

  • fiddler

    Perhaps some kung-fu or tai-kwon-do experts should pose as the elderly and walk through their gauntlet. A couple of shattered forearms ought to cure their need for mischief.

    • Drakken

      God made man, Sam Colt made man equal. A nice 45 through the brain pan works a lot better than getting your hands dirty and you have the added benefit of there will never be a problem again.

  • MarilynA

    Too much emphasis is being put on fatherlessness. The real culprit is idleness. Benjamin Franklin said it best, “Idle Hands are the devil’s workshop.” Child labor laws that prevent children under 16 from earning money to contribute to the family’s well being, along with past government programs that lured people off small family owned, but marginal, farms into big city ghettos called public housing, and provided them with free rent, food, health care, entertainment, and spending money, has created this mess where there is nothing for children to do but hang out on street corners, do and deal drugs and get into trouble. Add to this the concept of white guilt which has been instilled in all our children in our public schools and you get idle children with nothing to do, who think they are within their rights to amuse themselves by doing what they can to get even with those they have been taught are responsible for their not being rich like they think all working people are. This is called an unintended consequence of the Utopian’s ideal society where everyone is provided subsistence whether they work for it or not.. The Pilgrims tried socialism when they first landed at Plymouth Rock. In the Mayflower Pact it said, “To each according to his ability, To Each according to his needs.” After the first year in which they nearly starved to death they replaced that tenet with “If you don’t work, you don’t eat.” Those who are engineering the complete take over and central planning of all our activities should take note and devise a means of making everyone take part in insuring their own survival.

  • Jeff Ludwig

    The collapse of the black family is the real cause of poor academics performance in school. Great article Mr. Greenfield. What else is there to be said?

  • celador2

    The welfare culture gives a lot of leisure time and demands nothing gin return. They live off labor of others and have an entitled attitude only not like titled aristocrats who governed or served in military in days long ago and far away. US welfare subsidizes psychopathy which market forces would not suffer to live.

  • Lord_Cthulhu

    Did not the Roman Emperor Nero go out and mug random people at night for fun?

    • Carlos_Perera

      Yes, when a young man, per Suetonius, Nero would roam the streets of Rome at night with a gang of other young aristocrats, for the thrill of intimidating the general populace and picking fights with gangs of common street toughs. However, I don’t think they were quite so depraved as to knock out elderly women by punching them from behind.

  • Eva

    Thank you so much for this excellent article, Mr. Greenfield. It touched and saddened me for it brought back memories of living in Brooklyn and seeing all this every single day.

    • Daniel Greenfield

      thank you Eva

  • Cuppa

    This article was remarkably silly.

  • nomoretraitors

    Once again Mr. Greenfield distills the issue into a simple sentence

  • Doc Savage

    The opposite solution is as solution: Go after roving black punks, deliberately, sternly, thoroughly. The police have their hands tied by Progressive bed-wetters.