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		<title>By: paridell</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Oct 2013 10:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry to correct both you and Bill, Richard, but Goebbels never said what you quote. It is an Internet myth - see: 

http://truthisthegreatestenemyofthestate.blogspot.com.au/2012/04/outline-of-problem.html

Hitler did comment on the &#039;big lie&#039;, but not in the terms Bill quotes. This is what he said:

&quot;[I]n the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods.&quot; (Mein Kampf, vol. 1, chapter x).

Bill may be thinking of another remark by Hitler on what today we would call saturation advertising:

&quot;The receptive powers of the masses are very restricted, and their understanding is feeble. On the other hand, they quickly forget. Such being the case, all effective propaganda must be confined to a few bare essentials and those must be expressed as far as possible in stereotyped formulas. These slogans should be persistently repeated until the very last individual has come to grasp the idea that has been put forward... The aim of propaganda is not to try to pass judgment on conflicting rights, giving each its due, but exclusively to emphasize the right which we are asserting. Propaganda must not investigate the truth objectively and, in so far as it is favourable to the other side, present it according to the theoretical rules of justice; yet it must present only that aspect of the truth which is favourable to its own side.&quot; Mein Kampf, Chapter 6, &quot;War Propaganda&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to correct both you and Bill, Richard, but Goebbels never said what you quote. It is an Internet myth &#8211; see: </p>
<p><a href="http://truthisthegreatestenemyofthestate.blogspot.com.au/2012/04/outline-of-problem.html" rel="nofollow">http://truthisthegreatestenemyofthestate.blogspot.com.au/2012/04/outline-of-problem.html</a></p>
<p>Hitler did comment on the &#8216;big lie&#8217;, but not in the terms Bill quotes. This is what he said:</p>
<p>&#8220;[I]n the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods.&#8221; (Mein Kampf, vol. 1, chapter x).</p>
<p>Bill may be thinking of another remark by Hitler on what today we would call saturation advertising:</p>
<p>&#8220;The receptive powers of the masses are very restricted, and their understanding is feeble. On the other hand, they quickly forget. Such being the case, all effective propaganda must be confined to a few bare essentials and those must be expressed as far as possible in stereotyped formulas. These slogans should be persistently repeated until the very last individual has come to grasp the idea that has been put forward&#8230; The aim of propaganda is not to try to pass judgment on conflicting rights, giving each its due, but exclusively to emphasize the right which we are asserting. Propaganda must not investigate the truth objectively and, in so far as it is favourable to the other side, present it according to the theoretical rules of justice; yet it must present only that aspect of the truth which is favourable to its own side.&#8221; Mein Kampf, Chapter 6, &#8220;War Propaganda&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Fox Fuzzbox</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Oct 2013 05:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, thanks. But don&#039;t you see what religion makes people do to each other? Putting their children in madrasas where they have to sit for years and learn the quran by rote even if they don&#039;t speak the language and have any idea what it means.
Or those who send their kids to hell houses to scare the snot outta them in order to make them obedient.
This does not make happy well adjusted people, -it is brain washing.
And when they are ready they are sent out in the world to kill those other people that they&#039;ve learned to hate.
Does this sound right? to anyone?
Who is mindless here?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, thanks. But don&#8217;t you see what religion makes people do to each other? Putting their children in madrasas where they have to sit for years and learn the quran by rote even if they don&#8217;t speak the language and have any idea what it means.<br />
Or those who send their kids to hell houses to scare the snot outta them in order to make them obedient.<br />
This does not make happy well adjusted people, -it is brain washing.<br />
And when they are ready they are sent out in the world to kill those other people that they&#8217;ve learned to hate.<br />
Does this sound right? to anyone?<br />
Who is mindless here?</p>
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		<title>By: Wolfthatknowsall</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Oct 2013 03:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks.  I shall do so.  I worry about this because my son is both Tea Party and an evangelical.  Of course, he is only one grade from Brigadier (though I don&#039;t expect him to make it in the current environment), but I would hope he knows something about this.

I made it to E-4! ...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks.  I shall do so.  I worry about this because my son is both Tea Party and an evangelical.  Of course, he is only one grade from Brigadier (though I don&#8217;t expect him to make it in the current environment), but I would hope he knows something about this.</p>
<p>I made it to E-4! &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Boots</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Oct 2013 21:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No... If I were still on active duty and at that briefing, I&#039;d ask the same question about divisiveness.  I&#039;d agree with your take on this if the quality of Mr Greenfield&#039;s work over the long term were any worse than stuff published in the New York Times, Boston Globe, Dan Rather and CBS, and any number of other traditional news sources disguised as news but done as editorials through selective editing.  The National Enquirer does the best sourced investigative reporting these days but that&#039;s only because they lose law suits if they can&#039;t defend what they publish.


That said... there&#039;s enough evidence the federal government as a whole is trying to label evangelicals and conservative groups as terrorists... think Janet Napolitano and DHS.,, report &quot;Right-wing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence and Radicalization and Recruitment&quot; April 7, 2009, which labeled virtually all conservative leaning individuals as a suspected terrorist.


Just my opinion but there&#039;s enough institutional hostility towards the right for the anecdotal report by the soldier attending the training to be credible.  If DHS is willing to publish that kind of report and the IRS is willing to harass conservative groups then it&#039;s easy to believe the military could also be politicized.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No&#8230; If I were still on active duty and at that briefing, I&#8217;d ask the same question about divisiveness.  I&#8217;d agree with your take on this if the quality of Mr Greenfield&#8217;s work over the long term were any worse than stuff published in the New York Times, Boston Globe, Dan Rather and CBS, and any number of other traditional news sources disguised as news but done as editorials through selective editing.  The National Enquirer does the best sourced investigative reporting these days but that&#8217;s only because they lose law suits if they can&#8217;t defend what they publish.</p>
<p>That said&#8230; there&#8217;s enough evidence the federal government as a whole is trying to label evangelicals and conservative groups as terrorists&#8230; think Janet Napolitano and DHS.,, report &#8220;Right-wing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence and Radicalization and Recruitment&#8221; April 7, 2009, which labeled virtually all conservative leaning individuals as a suspected terrorist.</p>
<p>Just my opinion but there&#8217;s enough institutional hostility towards the right for the anecdotal report by the soldier attending the training to be credible.  If DHS is willing to publish that kind of report and the IRS is willing to harass conservative groups then it&#8217;s easy to believe the military could also be politicized.</p>
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		<title>By: hiernonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hiernonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Oct 2013 19:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Title 2 limitations are those that apply to all, not simply the military, and deal with how much money may be given to a particular candidate.  If you want the particulars, you can google the refernced statute.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Title 2 limitations are those that apply to all, not simply the military, and deal with how much money may be given to a particular candidate.  If you want the particulars, you can google the refernced statute.</p>
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		<title>By: hiernonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hiernonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Oct 2013 19:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Your &lt;i&gt;first&lt;/i&gt; question to the intel officer is &quot;how well does this single second-hand account represent what was actually said in the briefing?&quot;

&quot;A soldier who attended the Oct. 17th briefing told me...&quot; represents the point at which a blogger publishes, and an actual journalist begins investigating.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your <i>first</i> question to the intel officer is &#8220;how well does this single second-hand account represent what was actually said in the briefing?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;A soldier who attended the Oct. 17th briefing told me&#8230;&#8221; represents the point at which a blogger publishes, and an actual journalist begins investigating.</p>
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		<title>By: Wolfthatknowsall</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wolfthatknowsall]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Oct 2013 16:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So, under 4.1.1.7., above, what would the &quot;limitations&quot; be?


The reason I ask is because I have a son who is a military historian at the Pentagon, with the rank of colonel.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, under 4.1.1.7., above, what would the &#8220;limitations&#8221; be?</p>
<p>The reason I ask is because I have a son who is a military historian at the Pentagon, with the rank of colonel.</p>
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		<title>By: Fox Fuzzbox</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fox Fuzzbox]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Oct 2013 04:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You can believe that, but it is not correct. 
Perhaps you are more interested in your feelings than facts.
I understand the cognitive dissonance can get quite overwhelming when there is no proof for the existence of any deities, -a frustrating situation which finds an emotional outlet.
And the bigotry and pontification is all your own. 
Have a nice day.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can believe that, but it is not correct.<br />
Perhaps you are more interested in your feelings than facts.<br />
I understand the cognitive dissonance can get quite overwhelming when there is no proof for the existence of any deities, -a frustrating situation which finds an emotional outlet.<br />
And the bigotry and pontification is all your own.<br />
Have a nice day.</p>
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		<title>By: hiernonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hiernonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Oct 2013 04:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Men like Galileo, who was a buddy of the Pope and was NOT chastised for his astronomical facts - facts which the Pope and Catholic Church shared.&quot;

 

He was &quot;buddies with the Pope&quot; until Urban became convinced that Galileo was mocking him through the character of Simplicio.  Here&#039;s what the inquisitors had to say about Galileo and the facts &quot;which the Pope and Catholic Church shared&quot; (http://web.archive.org/web/20070930013053/http://astro.wcupa.edu/mgagne/ess362/resources/finocchiaro.html#sentence):

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We:  [names of ten Cardinals] 
      

    By the grace of God, Cardinals of the Holy Roman Church, and especially commissioned by the Holy Apostolic See as Inquisitors-General against heretical depravity in all of Christendom. 
      

    Whereas you, Galileo, son of the late Vincenzio Galilei, 
        Florentine, aged seventy years, were denounced to this Holy Office in 1615 for holding as true the false doctrine taught by some that the sun is the center of the world and motionless and the earth moves even with diurnal motion; for having disciples to whom you taught the same doctrine; for being in correspondence with some German mathematicians about it; for having published some letters entitiled On Sunspots, in which you explained the same doctrine as true; for interpreting Holy Scripture according to your own meaning in response to objections based on Scripture which were sometimes made to you; and whereas later we received a copy of an essay in the form of a letter, which was said to have been written by you to a former disciple of yours and which in accordance with Copernicus&#039;s position contains various propositions against the authority and true meaning of Holy Scripture; 
      

    And whereas this Holy Tribunal wanted remedy the disorder and the harm which derived from it and which was growing to the detriment of the Holy Faith, by order of His Holiness and the Most Eminent and Most 
        Reverend Lord Cardinals of this Supreme and Univesal Inquisition, the Assessor Theologians assessed the two propositions of the sun&#039;s stability and the earth&#039;s motions as follows: 
      

    That the sun is the center of the world and motionless 
        is a proposition which is philosophically absurd and false, and formally heretical, for being explicitly contrary to Holy Scripture; 
      

    That the earth is neither the center of the world 
        nor motionless but moves even with diurnal motion is philosophically equally absurd and false, and theologically at least erroneous in the Faith. 
      

    Whereas however we wanted to treat you with benignity 
        at that time, it was decided at the Holy Congregation held in the presence of His Holiness on 25 Feb 1616 that the Most Eminent Lord Cardinal Bellarmine 
        would order you to abandon this false opinion completely; that if you refused to do this, the Commissary of the Holy Office would give you an 
        injunction to abandon this doctrine, not to teach it to others, not to defend it, and not to treat of it; and that if you did not acquiesce in this injunction, you should be imprisoned.  To execute this decision, the following day at the palace of and in the presence of the above-mentioned Most Eminent Lord Cardinal Bellarmine, after beine informed and warned in a friendly way by the same Lord Cardinal, you were given an injunction 
        by the then Father Commissary of the Holy Office in the presence of a notary and witnesses to the effect that you must completely abandon the said false opinion, and that in the future you could neither hold, nor defend, nor teach it in any way whatever, either orally or in writing; having promised to obey, you were dismissed. 
      

    Furthermore, in order to completely eliminate such 
        a pernicious doctrine, and not let it creep any further to the great detriment of Catholic truth, the Holy Congregation of the Index issued a decree which prohibited books treating of sucy a doctrine and declared it false and wholly contrary to the divine and Holy Scripture. 
      

    And whereas a book has appeared here lately, printed 
        in Florence last year, whose inscription showed that you were the author, the title being Dialogue by Galileo Galilei on the two Chief World Systems, Ptolemaic and Copernican; and whereas the Holy Congregation 
        was informed that with the printing of this book the false opinion of the earth&#039;s motion and the sun&#039;s stability was being disseminated and taking hold more and more every day, the said book was diligently examined 
        and found to violate explicitly the above-mentioned injunction given to you; for in the same book you have defended the said opinion already condemned 
        and so declared to your face, although in the said book you try by means of various subterfuges to give the impression of leaving it undecided and labeled as probable; this is still a very serious error since there 
        is no way an opinion declared and defined contrary to divine Scripture may be probable. 
      

    Therefore, by our order you were summoned to this 
        Holy Office, where, examined under oath, you acknowledged the book as written and published by you.  You confessed that about ten or twelve years ago after having been given the injunction mentioned above, you began writing the said book, and that then you asked for permission to print it without explaining to those who gave you such permission that you were under the injunction of not holding, defending, or teaching such a doctrine in any way whatever. 
      

    Likewise, you confessed that in several places the 
        exposition of the said book is expressed in such a way that a reader could get the idea that the arguments given for the false side were effective enough to be capable of convincing, rather than being easy to refute.  
        Your excuses for having committted an error, as you said so foreign from you intention, were that you had written in dialogue form, and everyone feels a natural satisfaction for one&#039;s own subtleties and showing oneself sharper than the average man by finding ingenious and apparently probable arguments even in favor of false propositions. 
      

    Having been given suitable terms to present your defense, you produced a certificate in the handwriting of the most Eminient Lord Cardinal Bellarmine, which you said you obtained to defend yourself from the calumnies of your enemies, who were claiming that you had abjured and had been punished by the Holy Office.  This certificate says that you had neither abjured nor been punished, but only that you had been notified of the declaration made by His Holiness and published by 
        the Holy Congregation of the Index, whose content is that the doctrine of the earth&#039;s motion and sun&#039;s stability is conterary to Holy Scripture and so can be neither defended nor held.  Because this certificate does not contain the two phrases of the injunction, namely &quot;to teach&quot; and &quot;in any way whatever,&quot; one is supposed to believe that in the course of fourteen or sixteen years you had lost any recollection of them, and that for this same reason you had been silent about the injunction when you applied for the license to publish the book.  Furthermore, one is supposed to believe that you point out all of this not to excuse the error, but in order to have it attributed to conceited ambition rather 
        than to malice.  However, the said certificate you produced in your defense aggravates your case further since, while it says that the said opinion is contrary to Holy Scripture, yet you dared to treat of it, defend 
        it, and show it as probable; nor are you helped by the license your artfully and cunningly extorted since you did not mention the injunction you were under. 
      

    Because we did not think you had said the whole truth 
        about your intention, we deemed it necessary to proceed against you by a rigorous examination.  Here  you answered in a Catholic manner, though without prejudice to the above-mentioned matters confessed by you and deduced against you about your intention. 
      

    Therefore, having seen and seriously considered the 
        merits of your case, together with the above-mentioned confessions and excuses and with any other reasonable matter worth seeing and considering, we have come to the final sentence against you given below. 
      

    Therefore, invoking the most Holy name of Our Lord 
        Jesus Christ and his most glorious Mother, ever Virgin Mary; and sitting as a tribunal, with the advice and counsel of the Reverend Masters of Sacred Theology and the Doctors of both laws, our consultants; in this 
        writen opinion we pronounce final judgment on the case pending before us between the Magnificent Carlo Sinceri, Doctor of both laws, and Prosecuting 
        Attorney of this Holy Office, on one side, and you the above-mentioned Galileo Galilei, the culprit here present, examined, tried, and confessed as above, on the other side: 
      

    We say, pronounce, sentence, and declare that you, 
        the above-mentioned Galileo, because of the things deduced in the trial and confessed by you as above, have rendered yourself according to this Holy Office vehemently suspected of heresy, namely of having held and believed a doctine which is false and contrary to the divine and Holy Scripture: that the sun is the center of the world and does not move from east to west, and the earth moves and is not the center of the world, and that one may hold and defend as probable an opinion after it has been declared and defined contrary to Holy Scripture.  Consequently you have incurred all the censures and penalties imposed and promulgated by 
        the sacred canons and all particular and general laws against such delinquents.  We are willing to absolve you from them provided that first, with a sincere heart and unfeigned faith, in front of us you abjure, curse, and detest the above-mentioned errors and heresies, and every other error and heresy contrary to the Catholic and Apostolic Church, in the manner and form we will prescribe to you. 
      

    Furthermore, so that this serious and pernicious error 
        and transgression of yours does not remain completely unpunished, and so that you will be more cautious in the future and an example for others to abstain from similar crimes, we order that the book Dialogue by Galileo Galilei be prohibited by public edict. 
      

    We condemn you to formal imprisonment in this Holy 
        Office at our pleasure.  As a salutary penance we impose on you to recite the seven penitential Psalms once a week for the next three years.  And we reserve the authority to moderate, change, or condone wholly or 
        in part the above-mentioned penalties and penances. 
      

    This we say, pronounce, sentence, declare, order, 
        and reserve by this or any other better manner or form that we reasonably can or shall think of. 
      

    So we the undersigned Cardinals pronounce:

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Men like Galileo, who was a buddy of the Pope and was NOT chastised for his astronomical facts &#8211; facts which the Pope and Catholic Church shared.&#8221;</p>
<p>He was &#8220;buddies with the Pope&#8221; until Urban became convinced that Galileo was mocking him through the character of Simplicio.  Here&#8217;s what the inquisitors had to say about Galileo and the facts &#8220;which the Pope and Catholic Church shared&#8221; (<a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20070930013053/http://astro.wcupa.edu/mgagne/ess362/resources/finocchiaro.html#sentence" rel="nofollow">http://web.archive.org/web/20070930013053/http://astro.wcupa.edu/mgagne/ess362/resources/finocchiaro.html#sentence</a>):</p>
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<p>We:  [names of ten Cardinals] </p>
<p>    By the grace of God, Cardinals of the Holy Roman Church, and especially commissioned by the Holy Apostolic See as Inquisitors-General against heretical depravity in all of Christendom. </p>
<p>    Whereas you, Galileo, son of the late Vincenzio Galilei,<br />
        Florentine, aged seventy years, were denounced to this Holy Office in 1615 for holding as true the false doctrine taught by some that the sun is the center of the world and motionless and the earth moves even with diurnal motion; for having disciples to whom you taught the same doctrine; for being in correspondence with some German mathematicians about it; for having published some letters entitiled On Sunspots, in which you explained the same doctrine as true; for interpreting Holy Scripture according to your own meaning in response to objections based on Scripture which were sometimes made to you; and whereas later we received a copy of an essay in the form of a letter, which was said to have been written by you to a former disciple of yours and which in accordance with Copernicus&#8217;s position contains various propositions against the authority and true meaning of Holy Scripture; </p>
<p>    And whereas this Holy Tribunal wanted remedy the disorder and the harm which derived from it and which was growing to the detriment of the Holy Faith, by order of His Holiness and the Most Eminent and Most<br />
        Reverend Lord Cardinals of this Supreme and Univesal Inquisition, the Assessor Theologians assessed the two propositions of the sun&#8217;s stability and the earth&#8217;s motions as follows: </p>
<p>    That the sun is the center of the world and motionless<br />
        is a proposition which is philosophically absurd and false, and formally heretical, for being explicitly contrary to Holy Scripture; </p>
<p>    That the earth is neither the center of the world<br />
        nor motionless but moves even with diurnal motion is philosophically equally absurd and false, and theologically at least erroneous in the Faith. </p>
<p>    Whereas however we wanted to treat you with benignity<br />
        at that time, it was decided at the Holy Congregation held in the presence of His Holiness on 25 Feb 1616 that the Most Eminent Lord Cardinal Bellarmine<br />
        would order you to abandon this false opinion completely; that if you refused to do this, the Commissary of the Holy Office would give you an<br />
        injunction to abandon this doctrine, not to teach it to others, not to defend it, and not to treat of it; and that if you did not acquiesce in this injunction, you should be imprisoned.  To execute this decision, the following day at the palace of and in the presence of the above-mentioned Most Eminent Lord Cardinal Bellarmine, after beine informed and warned in a friendly way by the same Lord Cardinal, you were given an injunction<br />
        by the then Father Commissary of the Holy Office in the presence of a notary and witnesses to the effect that you must completely abandon the said false opinion, and that in the future you could neither hold, nor defend, nor teach it in any way whatever, either orally or in writing; having promised to obey, you were dismissed. </p>
<p>    Furthermore, in order to completely eliminate such<br />
        a pernicious doctrine, and not let it creep any further to the great detriment of Catholic truth, the Holy Congregation of the Index issued a decree which prohibited books treating of sucy a doctrine and declared it false and wholly contrary to the divine and Holy Scripture. </p>
<p>    And whereas a book has appeared here lately, printed<br />
        in Florence last year, whose inscription showed that you were the author, the title being Dialogue by Galileo Galilei on the two Chief World Systems, Ptolemaic and Copernican; and whereas the Holy Congregation<br />
        was informed that with the printing of this book the false opinion of the earth&#8217;s motion and the sun&#8217;s stability was being disseminated and taking hold more and more every day, the said book was diligently examined<br />
        and found to violate explicitly the above-mentioned injunction given to you; for in the same book you have defended the said opinion already condemned<br />
        and so declared to your face, although in the said book you try by means of various subterfuges to give the impression of leaving it undecided and labeled as probable; this is still a very serious error since there<br />
        is no way an opinion declared and defined contrary to divine Scripture may be probable. </p>
<p>    Therefore, by our order you were summoned to this<br />
        Holy Office, where, examined under oath, you acknowledged the book as written and published by you.  You confessed that about ten or twelve years ago after having been given the injunction mentioned above, you began writing the said book, and that then you asked for permission to print it without explaining to those who gave you such permission that you were under the injunction of not holding, defending, or teaching such a doctrine in any way whatever. </p>
<p>    Likewise, you confessed that in several places the<br />
        exposition of the said book is expressed in such a way that a reader could get the idea that the arguments given for the false side were effective enough to be capable of convincing, rather than being easy to refute.<br />
        Your excuses for having committted an error, as you said so foreign from you intention, were that you had written in dialogue form, and everyone feels a natural satisfaction for one&#8217;s own subtleties and showing oneself sharper than the average man by finding ingenious and apparently probable arguments even in favor of false propositions. </p>
<p>    Having been given suitable terms to present your defense, you produced a certificate in the handwriting of the most Eminient Lord Cardinal Bellarmine, which you said you obtained to defend yourself from the calumnies of your enemies, who were claiming that you had abjured and had been punished by the Holy Office.  This certificate says that you had neither abjured nor been punished, but only that you had been notified of the declaration made by His Holiness and published by<br />
        the Holy Congregation of the Index, whose content is that the doctrine of the earth&#8217;s motion and sun&#8217;s stability is conterary to Holy Scripture and so can be neither defended nor held.  Because this certificate does not contain the two phrases of the injunction, namely &#8220;to teach&#8221; and &#8220;in any way whatever,&#8221; one is supposed to believe that in the course of fourteen or sixteen years you had lost any recollection of them, and that for this same reason you had been silent about the injunction when you applied for the license to publish the book.  Furthermore, one is supposed to believe that you point out all of this not to excuse the error, but in order to have it attributed to conceited ambition rather<br />
        than to malice.  However, the said certificate you produced in your defense aggravates your case further since, while it says that the said opinion is contrary to Holy Scripture, yet you dared to treat of it, defend<br />
        it, and show it as probable; nor are you helped by the license your artfully and cunningly extorted since you did not mention the injunction you were under. </p>
<p>    Because we did not think you had said the whole truth<br />
        about your intention, we deemed it necessary to proceed against you by a rigorous examination.  Here  you answered in a Catholic manner, though without prejudice to the above-mentioned matters confessed by you and deduced against you about your intention. </p>
<p>    Therefore, having seen and seriously considered the<br />
        merits of your case, together with the above-mentioned confessions and excuses and with any other reasonable matter worth seeing and considering, we have come to the final sentence against you given below. </p>
<p>    Therefore, invoking the most Holy name of Our Lord<br />
        Jesus Christ and his most glorious Mother, ever Virgin Mary; and sitting as a tribunal, with the advice and counsel of the Reverend Masters of Sacred Theology and the Doctors of both laws, our consultants; in this<br />
        writen opinion we pronounce final judgment on the case pending before us between the Magnificent Carlo Sinceri, Doctor of both laws, and Prosecuting<br />
        Attorney of this Holy Office, on one side, and you the above-mentioned Galileo Galilei, the culprit here present, examined, tried, and confessed as above, on the other side: </p>
<p>    We say, pronounce, sentence, and declare that you,<br />
        the above-mentioned Galileo, because of the things deduced in the trial and confessed by you as above, have rendered yourself according to this Holy Office vehemently suspected of heresy, namely of having held and believed a doctine which is false and contrary to the divine and Holy Scripture: that the sun is the center of the world and does not move from east to west, and the earth moves and is not the center of the world, and that one may hold and defend as probable an opinion after it has been declared and defined contrary to Holy Scripture.  Consequently you have incurred all the censures and penalties imposed and promulgated by<br />
        the sacred canons and all particular and general laws against such delinquents.  We are willing to absolve you from them provided that first, with a sincere heart and unfeigned faith, in front of us you abjure, curse, and detest the above-mentioned errors and heresies, and every other error and heresy contrary to the Catholic and Apostolic Church, in the manner and form we will prescribe to you. </p>
<p>    Furthermore, so that this serious and pernicious error<br />
        and transgression of yours does not remain completely unpunished, and so that you will be more cautious in the future and an example for others to abstain from similar crimes, we order that the book Dialogue by Galileo Galilei be prohibited by public edict. </p>
<p>    We condemn you to formal imprisonment in this Holy<br />
        Office at our pleasure.  As a salutary penance we impose on you to recite the seven penitential Psalms once a week for the next three years.  And we reserve the authority to moderate, change, or condone wholly or<br />
        in part the above-mentioned penalties and penances. </p>
<p>    This we say, pronounce, sentence, declare, order,<br />
        and reserve by this or any other better manner or form that we reasonably can or shall think of. </p>
<p>    So we the undersigned Cardinals pronounce:</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Oct 2013 03:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The greatest scientific achievements of mankind were made by Christians trying to understand the universe they believed God created. Men like Newton, Darwin, Edison, Tesla, Bell, Carrier, Einstein and Farnsworth. Men like Galileo, who was a buddy of the Pope and was NOT chastised for his astronomical facts - facts which the Pope and Catholic Church shared.


Your description of God is not based on scripture, belief or reality.


Richard is right. You shouldn&#039;t pontificate about books and subjects you don&#039;t know anything about. Your smugness is misplaced, and so is your anti-Christian bigotry.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The greatest scientific achievements of mankind were made by Christians trying to understand the universe they believed God created. Men like Newton, Darwin, Edison, Tesla, Bell, Carrier, Einstein and Farnsworth. Men like Galileo, who was a buddy of the Pope and was NOT chastised for his astronomical facts &#8211; facts which the Pope and Catholic Church shared.</p>
<p>Your description of God is not based on scripture, belief or reality.</p>
<p>Richard is right. You shouldn&#8217;t pontificate about books and subjects you don&#8217;t know anything about. Your smugness is misplaced, and so is your anti-Christian bigotry.</p>
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		<title>By: ziggy zoggy</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Oct 2013 02:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Forcing agendas on the unwilling is not tolerant! That&#039;s just it: none of the left&#039;s ideology is tolerant. Leftists claim to be tolerant, but practice the complete opposite.


 As for political parties, the Democrats are dominated by the left and most Republicans go along because they are STUPID and think that is what the public wants.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forcing agendas on the unwilling is not tolerant! That&#8217;s just it: none of the left&#8217;s ideology is tolerant. Leftists claim to be tolerant, but practice the complete opposite.</p>
<p> As for political parties, the Democrats are dominated by the left and most Republicans go along because they are STUPID and think that is what the public wants.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Adams</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Adams]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Oct 2013 02:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[DoD Directive 1344.10, Subj: Political Activities by Members of the Armed Forces, February 19, 2008.
4.1.1. A member of the Armed Forces on active duty may: 
4.1.1.7. Make monetary contributions to a political organization, party, or committee favoring a particular candidate or slate of candidates, subject to the limitations under section 441a of title 2, United States Code (U.S.C.) (Reference (d)); section 607 of title 18, U.S.C. (Reference (e)); and other applicable law.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DoD Directive 1344.10, Subj: Political Activities by Members of the Armed Forces, February 19, 2008.<br />
4.1.1. A member of the Armed Forces on active duty may:<br />
4.1.1.7. Make monetary contributions to a political organization, party, or committee favoring a particular candidate or slate of candidates, subject to the limitations under section 441a of title 2, United States Code (U.S.C.) (Reference (d)); section 607 of title 18, U.S.C. (Reference (e)); and other applicable law.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Adams</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Adams]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Oct 2013 02:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry to correct you Bill, but you are citing the wrong source. Here is the entire quote and by whom:
&quot;If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”  -Minister of Propaganda, Joseph Goebbels
I do get your point though. I don&#039;t believe Obama and the rest of the ideologues will be able to continue their lies much longer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to correct you Bill, but you are citing the wrong source. Here is the entire quote and by whom:<br />
&#8220;If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”  -Minister of Propaganda, Joseph Goebbels<br />
I do get your point though. I don&#8217;t believe Obama and the rest of the ideologues will be able to continue their lies much longer.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Adams</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Adams]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Oct 2013 02:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Are you a scientist? In which discipline do you have your training in and are you published? Is atheism, nihilism, and existentialism any more provable theories than a belief in God? Is there any chance that your conclusions are in error due to conformational bias?
You did the ol&#039; bait and switch. If you are going to claim that the prophesies are in error, don&#039;t compare them to the Catholic Church&#039;s refusal to accept in a timely manner the discoveries by Galileo. Apples to apples please.
BTW, here&#039;s a prediction from the bible that will come true. When you die, and you will someday, your soul will either go to heaven or hell. You&#039;ll have to die to find out if this is the truth.
I pray you go to heaven.
Respectively,
RPA]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you a scientist? In which discipline do you have your training in and are you published? Is atheism, nihilism, and existentialism any more provable theories than a belief in God? Is there any chance that your conclusions are in error due to conformational bias?<br />
You did the ol&#8217; bait and switch. If you are going to claim that the prophesies are in error, don&#8217;t compare them to the Catholic Church&#8217;s refusal to accept in a timely manner the discoveries by Galileo. Apples to apples please.<br />
BTW, here&#8217;s a prediction from the bible that will come true. When you die, and you will someday, your soul will either go to heaven or hell. You&#8217;ll have to die to find out if this is the truth.<br />
I pray you go to heaven.<br />
Respectively,<br />
RPA</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Adams</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Adams]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Oct 2013 01:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re entitled to your opinion...even when you espouse ignorance. One would have to read the Bible to be able to make informed and accurate comments without coming off as a mindless vessel.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re entitled to your opinion&#8230;even when you espouse ignorance. One would have to read the Bible to be able to make informed and accurate comments without coming off as a mindless vessel.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Adams</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Adams]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Oct 2013 01:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Calling for a sniper&#039;s bullet to solve your problems is irrational and can get you a visit from the Secret Service. Understanding what is deception and what the laws are will provide greater assistance.
Education and an understanding of the Constitution and your rights is paramount before we start believing every fairy tale that is thrown at us. Be able to see a lie and to know what to do or not do under the law.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Calling for a sniper&#8217;s bullet to solve your problems is irrational and can get you a visit from the Secret Service. Understanding what is deception and what the laws are will provide greater assistance.<br />
Education and an understanding of the Constitution and your rights is paramount before we start believing every fairy tale that is thrown at us. Be able to see a lie and to know what to do or not do under the law.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Adams</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Adams]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Oct 2013 01:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wolf - You would not be in violation for making donations or attending. Please see below:
DoD Directive 1344.10, Subj: Political Activities by Members of the Armed Forces, February 19, 2008.
4.1.1. A member of the Armed Forces on active duty may: 
4.1.1.7. Make monetary contributions to a political organization, party, or committee favoring a particular candidate or slate of candidates, subject to the limitations under section 441a of title 2, United States Code (U.S.C.) (Reference (d)); section 607 of title 18, U.S.C. (Reference (e)); and other applicable law.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wolf &#8211; You would not be in violation for making donations or attending. Please see below:<br />
DoD Directive 1344.10, Subj: Political Activities by Members of the Armed Forces, February 19, 2008.<br />
4.1.1. A member of the Armed Forces on active duty may:<br />
4.1.1.7. Make monetary contributions to a political organization, party, or committee favoring a particular candidate or slate of candidates, subject to the limitations under section 441a of title 2, United States Code (U.S.C.) (Reference (d)); section 607 of title 18, U.S.C. (Reference (e)); and other applicable law.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Adams</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Adams]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Oct 2013 01:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have already posted this above but I want to make sure it is not overlooked.

DoD Directive 1344.10, Subj: Political Activities by Members of the Armed Forces, February 19, 2008.
4.1.1. A member of the Armed Forces on active duty may: 
4.1.1.7. Make monetary contributions to a political organization, party, or committee favoring a particular candidate or slate of candidates, subject to the limitations under section 441a of title 2, United States Code (U.S.C.) (Reference (d)); section 607 of title 18, U.S.C. (Reference (e)); and other applicable law.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have already posted this above but I want to make sure it is not overlooked.</p>
<p>DoD Directive 1344.10, Subj: Political Activities by Members of the Armed Forces, February 19, 2008.<br />
4.1.1. A member of the Armed Forces on active duty may:<br />
4.1.1.7. Make monetary contributions to a political organization, party, or committee favoring a particular candidate or slate of candidates, subject to the limitations under section 441a of title 2, United States Code (U.S.C.) (Reference (d)); section 607 of title 18, U.S.C. (Reference (e)); and other applicable law.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Adams]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Oct 2013 01:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[DoD Directive 1344.10, Subj: Political Activities by Members of the Armed Forces, February 19, 2008.
4.1.1. A member of the Armed Forces on active duty may: 
4.1.1.7. Make monetary contributions to a political organization, party, or committee favoring a particular candidate or slate of candidates, subject to the limitations under section 441a of title 2, United States Code (U.S.C.) (Reference (d)); section 607 of title 18, U.S.C. (Reference (e)); and other applicable law.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DoD Directive 1344.10, Subj: Political Activities by Members of the Armed Forces, February 19, 2008.<br />
4.1.1. A member of the Armed Forces on active duty may:<br />
4.1.1.7. Make monetary contributions to a political organization, party, or committee favoring a particular candidate or slate of candidates, subject to the limitations under section 441a of title 2, United States Code (U.S.C.) (Reference (d)); section 607 of title 18, U.S.C. (Reference (e)); and other applicable law.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan84iel</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan84iel]]></dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[That is what they practice for themselves, yes. But their ruling ideology, that which is forced upon the rest of us, is liberal egalitarianism. It is the ideology that tells us that we &quot;must&quot; allow homosexuals to marry, that we &quot;must&quot; grant millions of illegal aliens amnesty and a pathway to citizenship, and that we &quot;must not&quot; discriminate radical Muslims in the military. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is what they practice for themselves, yes. But their ruling ideology, that which is forced upon the rest of us, is liberal egalitarianism. It is the ideology that tells us that we &#8220;must&#8221; allow homosexuals to marry, that we &#8220;must&#8221; grant millions of illegal aliens amnesty and a pathway to citizenship, and that we &#8220;must not&#8221; discriminate radical Muslims in the military. </p>
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