Freeloaders or Free Country?

Defeats are never easy to take and yet every defeat is a necessary learning experience. Reading the memoirs of the greatest athletes and generals, you discover that they learned more from their defeats than from their victories because their victories only taught them their strengths while their defeats forced them to confront their weaknesses.

The Republican defeat in 2012 was a difficult blow, especially coming after the victories of 2010, and its lessons are still being argued and absorbed. Different schools of thought have emerged and different conclusions are being drawn from what took place several months ago. These necessary debates confront us with our weaknesses and prepare us to claim the victories to come.

Last month, Bruce Thornton wrote an article for Front Page Magazine containing his diagnosis of the defeat. That article, “It’s Not the Message, It’s Not the Messenger, It’s the Voter,” argued that the conservative message had been properly polished and had reached its intended audience, but that the average voter was not receptive to that message because he was unwilling to give up the comforts of the social safety net and the welfare state.

“Only the stupid or willfully inattentive haven’t heard that we face a financial abyss waiting at the end of our entitlement road, that entitlements need to be reformed, that we have an exploding debt and deficit crisis, that a ‘tax the rich’ policy only produces chump-change for solving that problem, that Obama’s economic policies have bloated the federal government at the expense of jobs and growth, and that Obama himself is the most left-wing, duplicitous, partisan, and incompetent president in modern history,” Thornton wrote.

In a Front Page follow-up article to that, “Messengers, Messages, and Voters, Part 2,” Thornton expanded his theme using historical references to Ancient Greece and the Founding Fathers to depict the universal franchise as an aberration that would always lead people to place their own private good above that of the national good.

“So unless one believes that human nature has evolved beyond passion and self-interest so that today a critical mass of voters will consider principle and the good of the whole even at the cost of their own interests,” Thornton wrote, “we still face the same problem that troubled earlier critics of democracy.”

In response to that first piece, David Horowitz took a different position. In his article, “It’s the Message and Yes the Messengers — NOT the Voters,” he argued that there was indeed a messaging problem at the heart of the defeat. He linked this problem to a continuing underestimation of the left and their tactics, as well as a lack of sufficient aggressiveness on the part of conservative campaigners.

Horowitz contrasts the Democratic Party’s willingness to play the heroes protecting minority groups from the ravages of the Republican Party with the lack of moral outrage and offensive momentum from the Republican Party in pushing back against these dishonest slanders.

“Republicans didn’t lay a finger on Obama and the Democrats for their wars against women, minorities and the middle class. They hardly mentioned the suffering of these groups under Obama’s policies,” he wrote.

This theme is further elaborated on in his new pamphlet in an article that appeared on powerlineblog.com called “Go For the Heart: How Republicans Can Win.” There he writes, “The only way to confront the emotional campaign that Democrats wage in every election is through an equally emotional campaign that puts the aggressors on the defensive; that attacks them in the same moral language, identifying them as the bad guys.”

Horowitz argues that the primary organ is not the head, but the heart, and that rational arguments go nowhere unless they connect to emotional narratives. While the reasoning person may be expected to rationally process and accept a message of small government, low taxes and personal freedom, this message will not connect unless it goes for the heart, rather than the head.

Americans are not a nation of takers, Horowitz says, they are coping with uncertain and difficult times without a clear sense of direction. They have been misled by the left’s false narratives and the ineptness of the right in challenging those narratives.

“When Democrats tell their underdog story it is not an abstraction but a powerful, polarizing, emotionally charged attack on their Republican adversaries. In the Democratic narrative, Republicans are cast as oppressors,” Horowitz warns. “How can you win a war when the other side is using bazookas and your side is using fly swatters?”

Both Horowitz and Thornton agree that the people are not perfect or ideal, but Horowitz argues that this requires a change of tactics. Rather than dismissing the possibility of winning the argument, the Republican Party must instead learn how to make the arguments that bypass the head and go for the heart.

While Thornton focuses on the head as the primary aspect of man, a reasoning creature who thinks and only then acts, and whose actions spring from rational or rationalized motives, Horowitz argues that man should be viewed as less rational and more emotional, as a heart rather than a head. Man thinks less and feels more. It is these feelings that drive him and move him, activating his moral senses and his sense of self-interest.

“The weapons of political campaigns are hope and fear,” Horowitz writes. “Obama won the presidency in 2008 on a campaign of hope; he won re-election in 2012 on a campaign of fear.”

2012 was not an election of thinkers or takers, in Horowitz’s view, but an election that was won on the ability of the left to manipulate emotions, to banish hope and inspire fear. And his advice to conservatives who want to win is to focus less on the rational argument and more on the emotional argument. To tell the story, rather than display the pie chart. To worry less about the head and more about the heart.

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  • WildJew

    D. Horowitz: “How can you win a war when the other side is using bazookas and your side is using fly swatters?”

    And yet, Republican leaders convinced the Republican party faithful to vote (once again) for a guy who used a fly swatter. We got Mitt Romney.

    D. Greenfield wrote: "Reading the memoirs of the greatest….generals, you discover that they learned more from their defeats than from their victories because their victories only taught them their strengths while their defeats forced them to confront their weaknesses…."

    What have we learned Daniel? One of the greatest generals in history looked to God in defeat: "Then Joshua tore his clothes and fell to the earth on his face before the ark of the LORD until the evening, both he and the elders of Israel; and they put dust on their heads. Joshua said, "Alas, O Lord GOD….' (Josh chapter 7)

    I did not see God mentioned once in this piece. And so it goes. I e-mailed D. Horowitz during the Bush years warning that we will be in big trouble because of Bush's anti-Israel / pro-Palestinian jihad policies. Then we got Barack Obama in 2008, America's worst nightmare. Republicans again went for defeat in 2012. Romney championed the Muslim cause against Israel, notwithstanding his kind words in Jerusalem. Romney's kind words were worthless. I watched Romney's actions. The Republican party (my party) has at least since G. W. Bush championed the Muslim cause. Why do you think they are piling on Michele Bachmann? Does anyone know the Republican party supports a Palestinian Muslim-enemy state in the Holy Land since George W. Bush made it official policy in October 2001? And we expect God's blessings on the party of God, family and country? Republicans have gone from the stupid party to the Godless party.

    • WildBiblicalBerean

      WildJew said, "…. we will be in big trouble because of Bush's anti-Israel / pro-Palestinian jihad policies. Then we got Barack Obama in 2008, America's worst nightmare. "

      WJ, -Sen. Schumer is Jewish, but, as is true of almost all liberal American Jews, he is a far cry from being considered a card-carrying member of the Israel Firster crowd. So why do you focus on marginal Christians?

      You can be so irascible and ungenerous toward pew-warming "Christians", while ignoring the declared ANTI-Jewish venomous toxicity spewed by various Jewish and Black Democrats.

      Why is that, madam? Why do you attack the lesser of evil in today's secular world?

      See: Jewish anti-Semitism. – By Rachel Neuwirth at American Thinker
      http://www.americanthinker.com/2004/10/jewish_ant

      Jesus said this: "You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye."
      ~Matthew 7:5 – New International Version (©1984)

      • WildJew

        WildBiblicalBerean, if you followed me on the various forms in which I have posted about Jewish sell-outs and traitors, you might not call me a hypocrite. I plead guilty to hypocrisy when I am and have been a hypocrite. I cannot see the hypocrisy here.

        Neuwirth wrote: "This article deals only with consciously (in my opinion) anti—Semitic Jews and not with those Jews who are only misguided into supporting evil but who do not consciously intend to do harm."

        While I cannot say Sen. Schumer is an anti-Semitic Jew, neither can I say he is simply misguided. Schumer is too well informed to be misguided. Several months back, former libertarian radio talk show host, Neal Boortz (he got lots of pro-Obama African American callers, esp. from the Atlanta area) told his audience he could understand why Black Americans are or want to be proud of their Black president. I called in. I told Boortz if a Jewish president were doing to this country what Obama is doing, I would not be defending him, but screaming to high heaven against him. I have and do condemn Schumer and other (what I call) Jewish traitors.

        You wrote: "You can be so irascible and ungenerous toward pew-warming "Christians", while ignoring the declared ANTI-Jewish venomous toxicity spewed by various Jewish and Black Democrats.

        Why is that, madam? Why do you attack the lesser of evil in today's secular world?"

        Bush is (or was) the lesser evil in today's secular world? The leader of the free world is a lesser evil when he does evil? I condemned former President Bush because, 1) I voted for him and 2) In part I voted for him and expected much from him because he claimed to be a born again Christian; who then ignored God's repeated warnings to His prophets. Barack Hussein Obama is the fruit. The land of Israel was given to the sons of Jacob. No? Moreover as a forty plus year registered Republican, I hold my party and my leaders (especially self-professed believers) to a higher moral standard than I do the Democrats. Why shouldn't we hold them to a higher standard?

        One more thing needs saying. Mitt Romney and the Republican party have continued Bush's pro-Islam policies. Romney fought for the Palestinian and the Muslim world cause against Israel in the December 10, 2011 Iowa debate, on our national party platform and later in a policy address he gave October 2012 at the Virginia Military Institute.

        • Western Spirit

          Call a spade a spade, oops is that racist? Any way call anti Semitic Jews traitors and bench warmer Christians butt-brained because that's what they are. Hypocrites all.

          • WildJew

            Exactly right. A traitor is a traitor. Neither do we need pew-warming "Christians" in positions of leadership in the Republican party, much less in the White House. If one does not accept God's word to His prophets literally (as Bush later claimed in an interview) then don't call yourself a Christian believer. Same holds true for a self-professed religious Jew.

          • WildCherry Pickn'

            WildJew – Please don't choke on any cherry pitz while yer cherry-picking your text arguments and spewing out straw man fallicies.

        • WildCherry Pickn'

          Replying to WildJew – No. I don't "follow" you and do not care to because you have no Godly Wisdom. You are full of yourself.

          Nonetheless, you are off on a wild strawman tangent (again).

          You have a BUSH up your fanny that causes you constipation of context.

  • http://www.adinakutnicki.com AdinaK

    Horowitz gets it right, no pun intended.

    The left preys on the weak-minded and weak-kneed, forever instilling fear of the Republican, non-caring bugaboo. They use the same ploys and mental manipulations regarding Islam, sticking to their mantra via "Islamophobia".

    In this regard, the Repubs have two jobs – to demonstrate how liberty seeking values uplifts all, in tandem, showing how collectivism enslaves the masses, as they are ever dependent on the leadership's "generosity".

    To be sure, one does NOT win a struggle with kid gloves. Brass tacks is the only way to go. Are the Repubs up to the challenge? Detailing how leftist paradigms have led to the moral decline of American must be front and center – http://adinakutnicki.com/2013/01/22/the-moral-dec

    Adina Kutnicki, Israel – http://adinakutnicki.com/about/

    • Johnconrad

      Adina,

      Bobby Kennedy took a tour of the MS Delta in the 60's to highlight the plight of the poor.

      Would not a tour of inner-city America be appropriate now? To highlight the "results" of the Democrat War on Poverty?

      Or our establishment Republicans too afraid that educational reforms might put black kids in THEIR school districts?

      See folks, this IS the problem.

      The door is open. Republicans are too timid to walk through it.

      • Ziggy Zoggy

        Johnhodad,

        why are inner city poor any more important than other poor people? Or more important than women, "minorities" and the middle class?

        Republicans want all these groups to be successful homeowners. Republicans do not even want inner city hellholes to exist, so why do you claim they are the ones who don't want Blacks and Mexicans for neighbors, when it is the democrats who keep them at the bottom as pet voters who they never have to interact with?

        See, "folks" like you are the problem.

        The door is open. Democrats are too crooked to walk through it.

    • mekus milkdud

      people like obaluga and the black leaders will keep pushing for an anti whitey anti republican agenda till our cities are and country is Muslim

  • Robert Quinn

    Whether this is a heart or mind issue only matters in normal times, but we are far beyond normal times.

    There is no act of treason that could be more damaging to our Republic and beneficial to our enemies than to have a man of highly questionable allegiance to our Republic serving as President and Commander in Chief of our Military forces. Particularly so if the man is a half Black Muslim whose only claim to eligibility to hold that office, such as his birth certificate, selective service registration card are law enforcement confirmed forgeries and is using a social security number that was issued to someone else that failed to pass E-verify, who appoints another also corrupt black Attorney General to protect him and his first Executive Order is to permanently seal all of his authentic records from the public.

    This is Obama’s only Achilles Heal and in the face of our corrupt Attorney General, who has in turn corrupted the FBI, the Republican House is the constitutionally designated authority to investigate and expose this criminal usurper and his supporting comrades in the greatest national security threat our Republic has faced since its was founded.

    The evidence has been compiled and confirmed by Sheriff Arpaio and Attorney Orly Taitz. All the House Republicans need to do is to schedule hearings, complete the investigation and expose the truth. Thus far, politically correct treason prevails and the Republicans remain complicit in this cowardly treason.

    • Fred Glass

      When you write "far beyond normal times" I take it to mean we are in a state of virtual war. I agree. And in war the object is to destroy your enemy.

  • WilliamJamesWard

    Bringing Republiicans to victory in elections may not be to hard. If they would stop sucking up
    to Democrats, quit being professional politicians with a slick to smarmy answer that goes around
    with unsatisfactory obliqueness to questions, a start can be made. They need to represent
    and not act like rulers of the people, state positions with facts, stand up for American interests
    without appologizing for it, and further do not compromize with anti-American, Godless,
    degenerate, valuless groops of people that bring us down to the low life they lead. Tradition,
    American values and respect for the Judeo-Christian ethic may make Americans believe
    the Republican politician at least until thier special interests are slipped into law and further
    wreck our income base, the American paycheck……………………………William

  • pierce

    This country has turned into a bunch of freeloaders. There exists no pride, if it existed, you would not see shabbily dressed people outside restaurants begging for handouts. To boot, those same people are lazy, not interested in looking for a job, but waiting for a job to be handed to them. If you are hungry enough, you will find some way of putting food on the table, and not by hook or by crook. No sympathy from here, get off your collective asses.

    • Questions

      That non-Hispanic whites are now less than two-thirds of the U.S. population is not unrelated to the problem. Indeed, it IS the problem.

    • EarlyBird

      What you and so many right wingers nowadays express is contempt for about 80% or more of the American population. You sound like you really don't like America much at all. That's no way to win elections.

      • Ziggy Zoggy

        Girlybird;

        Only 20% of Americans claim to be leftists. As always, you have things @$$ backwards.

  • Gayle

    Effective messaging – and a *fiscally conservative* message – will only convince those in the middle-right and the right to come to the polls – something that was largely missing in 2012.

    As far as the middle-left to left side of the spectrum, take away the Democrats' willingness to funnel taxpayer money to their favored constituent groups, and see how far their vaunted ideas get them in the next election. This constituency has NO interest in ideas or ideas, just money flow.

    You guys have framed this as an either/or; that's a false choice. Make no mistake; the effective messaging is to get OUR side to the polls. THEIR side, no matter what lipstick they may put on their pig, cares only about the money.

  • Gayle

    Should have added: if Republicans want a winning message, they need to advocate that social issues should be decided at the state level, with the fedgov steering the larger ship of state on fiscal and defense issues. Let's get the morality ball off of the federal playing field, and put it where it belongs.

    Win/win.

    • Johnconrad

      Gayle,

      This is simply another abstraction. Been there, done that.

      Horowitz is right.

      My only question is why did he wait until now to tell the full truth to our gutless masters?

      This last election proved something to me.

      The Republicans TRULY are the problem.

      No wonder the libertarians hate them so.

      • Ziggy Zoggy

        Johncanard,

        the only abstraction around here is your failing mental faculties. I know cretinism is fatal but too bad it doesn't work faster.

  • Halfaleague Onward

    Up to this point the GOP has been woefully unable to go on the attack. Either they mostly agree with the left or they are incompetent. I tend to think a bit of both. The GOP is not just a couple times worse at the PR/Marketing/Nastygram media game they are 50 times worse. They have a lot of catching up to do and I am saddened to say that I don't think they are capable of fighting the bad fight that is necessary for them to win in the long haul.

    This whole thing is going to crash and only then will something meaningful happen, when the checks stop arriving and the money tap runs out and it probably won't be pretty.

  • BLJ

    The GOP does need to stop bringing knives to gun fights. They should have went right after Obama's shady character full blast. Romney needed to confront the creep face to face on this in the debates.

    There also needs to be a way to make sure that election fraud is stopped. I don't care what anyone says, those bastards stole the 2012 election. The Dems have perfected the art of stealing and will continue to do so until they are stopped.

    I do agree that a significant percentage of the population are freeloaders, but there are still enough iof us who are not to take this country back from the vermin running things.

    • Johnconrad

      Going after Obama accomplishes nothing.

      Read what Horowitz wrote.

      You're talking about abstractions that no one cares about.

      • BLJ

        Well, since Obama represents the Left and the Democratic Party I would say really going after him would make sense. Especially since no one has really done it on center stage before.

        • Jim_C

          Your president and fellow Chicagoan, Barack Obama (the very finest president of the 21st century) has succeeded through TWO presidential elections. You REALLY think his opponents, from the first primary through the last stomping of Romney, didn't do everything in their power to bring him down? You REALLY think they didn't throw everything they had at him? This is presidential politics, man–not an ice cream social. Do I have to write you a list?

          As for stealing the election, you're welcome to entertain your own delusions, but there's things called facts that have a nasty habit of puncturing delusions. You realize our president, peace be upon him, won by a margin significant enough that voter fraud couldn't possibly be a consideration–especially since NO ONE is seriously claiming voter fraud?

          • Mary Sue

            Except that there was serious voter fraud, but the Media Party won't report on it because it is not in their interests to do so.

          • trickyblain

            Such as….

            In the days after the election, there were a bunch of FPM blog posts linking to claims that, in certain counties, Obama got 110 percent of the vote and so forth. A simple check of the official voter tallies revealed these claims to be wildly absurd. And did Greenfield correct himself when called on it? Of course not.

          • Johnconrad

            Once again, these are all abstractions that no one cares about.

            Did you guys read Horowitz's powerline column?

            Personal attacks against Obama won't work.

            Expressing moral outrage at the ACTUAL MEASUREABLE RESULTS of foolish Leftist utopian policies would have Democrats on defense and unable to win elections.

            But, we want to keep name-calling and looking petty.

            C'mon folks!

          • Ziggy Zoggy

            Johnconrad;
            So is there an "ACTUAL MEASUREABLE RESULT() of foolish Leftist utopian policies" called Obamacare or is it called policycare? Are Obama and all his cabinet members "bad guys" or abstractions? How do you attack an idea without attacking the motivation that produces and espouses it? Ideas do not originate from the ether, they originate in human minds. You are being ridiculous.

            You are misrepresenting Horowitz's opinion whether you realize it or not.

            “When Democrats tell their underdog story it is not an abstraction but a powerful, polarizing, emotionally charged attack on their Republican adversaries. In the Democratic narrative, Republicans are cast as oppressors,” Horowitz warns. “How can you win a war when the other side is using bazookas and your side is using fly swatters?”

            Pretty straightforward, dude.

          • Ziggy Zoggy

            Such as….

            In the days after the election, there were a bunch of FPM blog posts linking to claims that, in certain counties, Obama got 110 percent of the vote and so forth. A simple check of the official voter tallies compared to registered voters revealed these claims to be correct. And did Ickybrain correct herself when called on it? Of course not.

          • Jim_C

            Riiiight….whatever you want to imagine, I guess.

          • Ziggy Zoggy

            Jim =C,

            you are hilarious.

      • Ziggy Zoggy

        Johncanard,

        Obama is the clueless leader of international leftism so going after him accomplishes everything. Gis crimes and slimes are legion but thanks to a worshipful media the public doesn't know of them or believe them.

        You're an abstraction and distraction that no one cares about.

    • EarlyBird

      No, that just makes Republicans look like wingnuts. Drop the "Obama is a secret Muslim!' nonsense, and start working on conservative solutions that are relevant.

      Americans of all backgrounds will respond to conservative ideas. But we need to be relevant: Yes, Global Warming exists, and here's a way that free enterprise can help fix it. Yes, our education system sucks, so here's some tricks out of the free enterprise playbook to incentivize good education. Yes, gun violence is a real problem so let's fix the mental health and criminal system, not destroy the 2nd Amendment, etc.

      And we've got to let what is Caesar's reaming Caesar's and what is God's remain Gods', i.e., we have got to focus on secular responses to our problems, while encouraging love and respect of God.

      • Ziggy Zoggy

        GirlyBird,

        Horiwitz is right when he says the key to republican victories is to expose the Democrats as the bad guys they are, and the commentators on this board are right when they say that the Incompetent in Chief is the worst of the lot. trolling as a Moby conservative Christian doesn't make your comments any less noxious.

        You don't want the Republicans to take this action because you know it would be effective.

        P.S., only lefties like the Liar in Chief use the term "folks." They stupidly think it makes them seem regular guys. Didn't you learn that in trolling 101?

        • EarlyBird

          You're genuinely an idiot.

          • Ziggy Zoggy

            Is there such a thing as a fake idiot? If it weren't for $h!t, you wouldn't have any brains at all. We all know you have no b@lls.

      • Ziggy Zoggy

        Girlybird,

        do you ever get tired of beating off those straw men? And if global warming exists, why hasn't the planet got any warmer in the 30 years or so since the Chicken Little's first screeched that the sky was falling?

        God is not a moon god.

    • Questions

      Look, if Americans are even half as conservative as you imagine, they wouldn't have needed coaxing by Romney, aggressive or otherwise, to vote against Obama. The reality is that we're a center-Left country, largely because of the decreasing portion of whites.

      • Ziggy Zoggy

        They didn't elect McCain either and it had nothing to do with a majority of Americans worshiping the Anointed One at the altar of Marx. The majority of eligible voters sat out the elections in petulance because the @$$hats didn't have the Republican candidate they wanted.

        • EarlyBird

          No, it was because McCain is an unstable, hair-triggered nutjob obsessed with getting us into wars everywhere, unwilling to denounce Bush's foreign policy disasters. And because he committed an unconscionable act of recklessness by putting perhaps the most truly ignorant and shallow person in GOP history, Sarah Palin, in a position to actually become POTUS. If that doesn't make you shudder with fear, you're not human.

          • Mary Sue

            What, you believed all the libellous tripe the Mainstream Media spread about Sarah Palin?

          • Ziggy Zoggy

            The majority of registered voters sat out the election and your girl still barely squeaked by. Give it up, short bus. Frothing out moonbat insanity is no substitute for reasoned debate.

      • EarlyBird

        I believe the vast swath of Americans are apolitical and as such are small "c" conservatives, far more interested in pragmatic concerns than ideology.

        People know we've been slipping behind for a LONG time (hardly in just the Obama years) – not because of liberal policies, but conservative solutions that have ossified. The country has completely absorbed the Reagan Revolution, to the point where a Democratic president was the one to say "big government is over."

        Conservative values are timeless, but specific conservative solutions must be relevant and in touch with the times. We've turned Reaganism into an untouchable religion. Can you imagine ANY GOP candidate in any election saying anything other than "lower taxes and fewer regulations to set the market free and lift all boats"? You don't need a candidate for that, but a tape recorder.

        • Ziggy Zoggy

          Yawn. The majority are assaulted by the subversive media blitz 24/7 and don't bother to fact check, so you think you can get away with your regurgitated DNC lies.

          Stop drinking the bong water, Girlybird.

  • JacksonPearson

    Republicans have to start swinging at the ball at the plate, and not from the dugout.

    They also have to quit plowing the field with establishment blinders on…look around. e.g,; Most Americans are conservative, so they must take a harder look at, and embrace the ideas of the conservative Tea Party Movement. Quit acting like democrats, and push for a balanced budget.

    • Johnconrad

      Another abstraction.

      Balanced budget?

      Who cares?

      The City of Detroit doesn't have the money to bury their dead!

      Think someone has failed there?

      Why not talk about Democrat urban policy and the disgrace faced by minority folks across the nation?

      • JacksonPearson

        "Why not talk about Democrat urban policy and the disgrace faced by minority folks across the nation?"

        Since you brought it up, let's hear what you have to say?

        • Johnconrad

          The City of Detroit does not have enough money to bury their dead.

          The City of Detroit has neighborhoods that are condemned and must be bulldozed.

          The City of Detroit has areas where the police are afraid to enter

          The City of Detroit has gangs roaming free in the streets, pillaging and robbing innocent citizens.

          And, the Democrats – who have been in charge for 80 years – propose their solution.

          Take away the guns from law-abiding citizens.

          It's it time for a change?

          (That's one off the top of my head)

          • trickyblain

            That's pretty good!

            However, you could also make the argument that Hawaii is a pretty fine place to visit, live and play. Low crime rate, clean streets and pretty high per capita income (high cost of living, though). It has been overseen by Dems for just about her entire existence as a state

          • Johnconrad

            I would imagine if you could move the Pacific Ocean to GM headquarters, Detroit would have a bit more latitude to screw things up.

          • JacksonPearson

            Okay, all of that was under corrupt democrat governance, and failed. What's happening in Detroit is being replicated nation wide, because of irresponsible local, liberal governments that gave away or stole more than they took in. Let's hope that the Detroit cancer doesn't spread into the federal level.

            The only way any local government can get back on their feet are with hard conservative measures, and undesirable cuts that they themselves created. Just look at Greece. Liberals can't bring themselves to austerity measures, and the federal government doesn't have enough Keynesian cash to bail all broke American cities out.

            At the present time, the republicans are in fighting, when they should be building fences, and gaining support, or better put, building strong coalitions for the next battle. That was the crux of my above comment of them swinging from the dugout, and not at the plate.

      • Ziggy Zoggy

        Johnhodad;
        We do talk about it but it is a FACT that the vast majority of Americans want a balanced budget. You offer nothing but mindless pettifoggery because you fear the results of a Republican attack against democrat perfidy and failure.

    • Questions

      We did have a Tea Party sensibility. That's why we lost. Romney wouldn't get racial or call for restrictimg immigration.

      • JacksonPearson

        I disagree. Nothing wrong with the Tea Party Movement's principles. I think Romney lost swing states because of voter fraud. The democrats have a play-book that's working for them. The early clue was when Harry Reid (D-NV) defeated Sharron Angle. Nevada is a very small state to track polls in. On election day, Angle had a five point edge on Reid. The final was a five percentage point victory for Reid. That''s a ten point swing. Something stunk there, and still does.

  • cxt

    Great article!

    Still not sure what good it does having a emotional powerful message when the "12th man" ie the media refuses to cover it…..but great point/s.

    Don't think anything is going to really change until the media does its job, takes its thumb off the scale and reports the news.

    • Johnconrad

      They would have to cover it if it was all you said.

      • Ziggy Zoggy

        No, they would have to obfuscate it, distort it and lie brazenly about it to protect and promote their beloved democrats-which is exactly what they do.

  • antisharia

    I'm with Thorton. The American people know what conservatism is and what the GOP stands for and they voted for a man who ran explicitly as a leftist. A man who would raise spending, increase welfare, cut the military, and increase taxes. They knew that and they voted him in. If the American people are that stupid that's their problem.

    • Johnconrad

      They aren't tuned into the moral outrage of what's happened to those they claim to be helping.

      • Jim_C

        That may be, but conservatives certainly haven't made that case.

        • Johnconrad

          That's David's point.

          And, my point is, Washington Conservatives either

          1) Don't believe their own message

          2) Are too timid to promote it

          I'm GLAD Karl Rove is starting this war. It's long overdue.

          • Ziggy Zoggy

            Johnhodad;
            Conservatives know exactly what to do, as this article and comment thread attest. Republicans are the weak kneed fools who refuse to take on the largely detested establishment media and their favored political party of crooks, whackos, liars and other assorted scumbags.

      • Ziggy Zoggy

        they know that immoral outrage is directed at the wrong people, thanks to the pro bono democrat campaign staff in the establishment media.

      • Ziggy Zoggy

        they know that immoral outrage is directed at the wrong people, thanks to the pro bono democrat campaign staff in the establishment media.

    • EarlyBird

      Americans are mostly conservative and have a good long history of voting conservative. Why the sudden lurch left? Because, to paraphrase Reagan, "I didn't leave conservatism, conservatives collectively lost their minds."

      Romney was a pragmatic, thoughtful executive problem solver, just what we needed. But the current batch of "conservatives," meaning hysterical ideologues, didn't let him be himself. He had to contort himself into a "severe conservative" to get the nomination, all while running away from his Mass record, and then he lurched for the middle during the general election. By that time he looked insane and then plastic. Gingrich, Santorum, Bachmann, etc. all looked like the moonbats they were.

      No, purge the current GOP of the New John Birchers, THEN the American people may let them back in the White House.

      • Ziggy Zoggy

        Republicans are so moderate they tilt left nowadays, you imbecile. Between the 24/7 media campaign for the Dhimmiecrats and Republican voter apathy a fringe minority and an indoctrinated minority reelected the worst thing to ever happen to this country.

        • EarlyBird

          "The media!"

          No, Americans realize our infrastructure is falling apart because we haven't invested seriously in it for many decades due to "government is always the problem," nonsense. We have overextended ourselves abroad. We have a perverted and unfair tax system. We have environmental problems, poor education, a middle class that is falling dramatically behind.

          And when these problems get discussed, idiots like you on the far, radical insane right call those people "communists!" Because you're stupid.

          • Ziggy Zoggy

            Girlybird,

            yes the Omamedia was the main influence on moderate voters.

            Obamarx's shovel ready manure projects have built nothing but roadside signs telling us how they signify a non-existent project.

            Absolutely nobody voted for your Obamessiah because of infrastructure graft except his contracting cronies. Everybody else did because he is a "Black" Democrat.

            And when these problems get discussed, idiots like you on the far, radical insane left call those people "right-wingers!" Because you're stupid and guzzling $perm rots the brain.

  • Ziggy Zoggy

    Yes, the Republicans need to expose the Democrats and their left-wing base as the bad guys that they are but let's face it: THE MEDIA WON THE LAST TWO PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS AND IS THE PRIMARY DEMOCRAT CAMPAIGN FORCE. Without the relentless (and deeply subversive) 24/7 media blitz against all things Republican conservative and even moderate, most Americans would barely feel the emotional attacks from the Democrats.

    Yes, if conservatives want the Republicans to start winning more elections they must attack the Democrat party, its individual members and its false narrative. This is true but they must also attack its narrators in the media.

    I think everybody knows this deep down.

    • Johnconrad

      And Republicans keep hoping the media will play nice?

      • Ziggy Zoggy

        No, they fear the extremist establishment media and a President who plays the race card every chance she gets..

    • Jim_C

      Fox News has more viewers than any of those outlets; its ratings put all theirs to shame. Radio has far more conservative talk than progressive (thankfully, this is changing slowly). So explicitly conservative media presence has far more day to day impact than "the media."

      How do you explain your point in light of this?

      • Mary Sue

        The media that the low-information voter tunes into is just plain old CNN or MSNBC. Or just local news, failing that.

        • Loyal Achates

          Low information? Than how do Fox viewers score lower on every quiz relating to objective facts?

          • Ziggy Zoggy

            Disloyal Ephialtes;

            Fox viewers score far higher, not that lefties like you know the difference between objective facts and subjective opinions.

          • Mary Sue

            which biased poll were you reading?

        • EarlyBird

          Conservatives right now are in an information bubble far more so than the left. "Epistemic closure" as the academics call it. Just look at this website, where people come to rant and confirm their most outrageous right wing conspiracy theories, be as radical as they can be, and confirm every bias they have.

          And the right is therefore getting crazier, and smaller.

          • Ziggy Zoggy

            Girlybird,

            citing the anti-intellectual projection of yourself and the marxists in academia who have destroyed scholarship proves only that you are a half-wit.

            There is a lunatic fringe that is getting smaller and crazier within a disinformation bubble inside an echo chamber, alright.

          • EarlyBird

            "Marxists!" "The librul media!" "Black helicopters!" "Terrorist in Chief!"

          • Ziggy Zoggy

            Straw men, all. You're simply recycling more media disinformation unless you believe in "The Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy." If you believe that you are a hopeless loon and simpleton. If you don't believe that it is because you are a hopeless loon and simpleton who knows your 2016 hopeful and all other moonbats are lying sacks of $&it.

            What passes for thought on the left is based on Marxism, so if you have a problem with Marxism stop espousing it over populism.

            There is nothing liberal about the leftist media, Achmed.

            The only black helicopters I ever heard of are the Blackhawks Clinton abandoned to scruffy Somalians. Luckily, less than 100 Americans fought off the entire city of Mogadishu and greased over 1000 of your jihadi bum-buddies in the process.

            The Incompetent/Narcissist/liar/coward/racist/Marxist/weenie-bite in Chief does indeed try to terrorize everybody on his lengthy enemies list but nobody is afraid of him personally. We all know his Wife wears the pants in the family. It's his policies that terrorize ordinary Americans.

            Like all moonbat jihadis, you cry and stamp your dainty little feet when you lose. What will you do when you die and find out that life didn't end your losing streak? Being one of 72 virgins for some big buck demon would suck for most people but I'm sure you'll make the best of it. You probably have a pretty mouth. Think of it as an opportunity. You'll get to meet your prophet lil" Mo personally.

      • Johnconrad

        Limbaugh brags about having 15 million or so listeners.

        How does that compare with how many people actually vote?

        • Ziggy Zoggy

          Johnhodad,

          how do the majority of registered voters who sat out the election compare to the minority who voted?

      • Ziggy Zoggy

        The so called mainstream media are comprised of far more than cable news stations.

        How do you explain your point in light of this?

    • EarlyBird

      Yep, keeping blaming it on the "media," "the left!" "he stole the election!," etc., etc. Keep making excuses and blaming everyone but the Party which ran. And keep losing.

      Greenfield, to his credit, is asking conservatives to be mature and inward looking in order to figure out how to self correct. Children blame others for their failures and therefore continue to fail.

      Hint: conservative values are timeless, but explicit solutions to problems must adapt and adjust to current reality to remain relevant.

      • Ziggy Zoggy

        The establishment media campaign for Obamarx and the Dems reaches every single American every single day while the Republican campaign was fleeting and largely unseen.

        You are lying about what greenfield wrote and children credit themselves with the success of others.

        Hint: The Dem message has nothing to do with reality and values can only be applied by those with a voice.

  • Western Spirit

    Emotion, the gut, wins over reason, the mind, every time. There is no contest. Romney represented to many people the evil CEO sending their jobs overseas and reason couldn't overcome this perception.

    The Republican national organization doesn't have the smarts to stop being Democrat lites so keep going down to defeat time after time. Since the gut wins over the brain the gut is what the Republican establishment should play to and they can do so without compromising Conservative values because most Americans are still Conservative and distain totalitarianism and its authoritarian outlook. What's wrong with playing to this gut feeling?

    • Johnconrad

      This is exactly right.

      A building engineer…smart guy, professional.. came to inspect my house on a refinance.

      I inquired as to his preference in the election – making small talk.

      "No way in hell I vote for a guy stashing money in the Caymans"

      Romney reminded far too many people of the SOB in the corner office that layed them off.

      And, did NOTHING to counter that perception.

      • Ziggy Zoggy

        Your fictional anecdote proves you are a liar twice over. You formerly claimed the media and Dem sleaze had nothing to do with the election results.

        • Western Spirit

          I did WHAT? Never mind I'm not a liar so you must have been zigging and zogging when you should have been thinking and not drinking so much you can't keep your facts straight.

          • Ziggy Zoggy

            It looks like you cant keep your sock-puppet troll aliases straight, dim-bulb. LOL!

  • SFLBIB

    “The only way to confront the emotional campaign that Democrats wage in every election is through an equally emotional campaign that puts the aggressors on the defensive; that attacks them in the same moral language, identifying them as the bad guys.”

    Someone finally gets it. “Don’t try to improve their [the voters’] minds. Appeal to their emotions. Make them laugh; make them cry; make them mad, even if it’s you they get mad at.” – Reporter Jack Burden to candidate Stark, the 1949 production of "All the King’s Men," starring Broderick Crawford as politician Willie Stark.

    “…Because voters are rationally ignorant (the costs of gaining particular kinds of information are greater than the benefits since one vote is essentially meaningless), politicians must employ a language designed to evoke emotion – enough emotion to motivate the right people to turn out and vote. – " Beyond Politics, William C. Mitchell & Randy T. Simmons

  • Fred Glass

    The author, Daniel Greenfield has well framed the debate. I would pose the question: What causes the tipping point in the perennial conflict between head & heart in social affairs?

    • Maxie

      There's growing evidence that it's genetic. http://www.americanthinker.com/archived_blog/../b… genetics_and_politics.html

      • Fred Glass

        Maxie, clicked on your link. Couldn't find article. If you see this reply would appreciate if you could email me a title & date or something: fred.glass@verizon.net

    • Ziggy Zoggy

      Yes, leftism is absolutely a mental disorder.

    • Fred Glass

      Re read the articles by Greenfield, Thornton & Horowitz on this debate characterized by Greenfield as head vs. heart. Occurs to me that this characterization could be refined to the two fold nature of man: On one hand "ambitious, vindictive & rapacious" (as quoted by Thornton of Alexander Hamilton) and the other warm, generous & loving. I have known both in one & the same individual.

      Thornton's second article tells about this debate way back in Ancient Athens some 2,500 years ago. So when we speak of the generalization: the Nature of Man in a political context this two fold nature is more to the point. The conflict between the two is forever part of our nature.

      As an aside, Horowitz' dogmatic "one hundred percent wrong" reference to Thornton's article seems like a left wing mental legacy not yet expunged.

  • Gee

    The Republicans gave away the election. Not once did Romney take the fight to Odumba.

    All Romney had to do was use Odumba's record and he would have been destroyed. Hell he could of even gotten the leftist Jews to not only not endorse Odumba, but also cut him off from his funding with only one question during the debates.

    All Romney had to do was ask Odumba to name the capital of Israel. The election would have been a cake walk. But Romney wasn't very intelligent nor well informed

    • Jim_C

      "Odumba" beat the "Party of Stupid." Twice.

      Second time, he ran on his record.

      • reader

        He did not run on his record, of course. He ran ads about how out of touch and evil Romney was.

      • Ziggy Zoggy

        Obama's empty suit was carried through the election by the media who created his phony image as a leader and he lied his @$$ off about his record while Romney stood there and let him do it.

        Thanks for proving Gee's point.

      • Mary Sue

        No, he blamed it on Bush.

  • Randy CA

    There is much to be said for both head and heart approaches and both should be energetically employed. The problem in 2012, was that both were only half heartily brought on stage, when they made an appearance at all.

    • Fred Glass

      Amen. Reagan used both.

      • Johnconrad

        You simply cannot speak in Imperial Senatese (McCain) and hope anyone will listen.

        I think the Hillary Clinton hearing was "the bottom". But, they keep surprising me and sinking lower.

        • Ziggy Zoggy

          You mean we (not you, of course) cannot treat them (you) with kid gloves.

      • EarlyBird

        Reagan was great because he was a man of his time. And he was not angry and you can tell he loved Americans – even the ones he disagreed with.

        And he was truly conservative in as much as he applied his principles to reality as it existed, and so bent where he needed to, as democracy so often requires, to get as much as he could, where he could, rather than "all or nothing." Today's radical, immature GOP would call him a RINO.

        Today's GOP is just one big snarl. It's "America is going to hell in a handbasket. And I blame about 85% of you for it!" That's no way to win hearts and minds.

        • reader

          May be it's time for you to go troll for Karl Rove. You seem to have come around for that. And, if he manages to keep any of his donors – which I doubt – you may even see some money for doing what you love.

          • EarlyBird

            In other words, "I don't want to be challenged. I want my biases reinforced. You make me think too hard. Go away and leave me in my comfortable right wing bubble."

          • Ziggy Zoggy

            Girlybird,

            You are definitely challenged (that's the latest PC euphemism for stupid, yes?) and living in a bubble.

        • Ziggy Zoggy

          Girlybird;
          Your idiotic distortions of Reagan and the current bunch of Republicans come straight from the DNC and have no basis in reality.

  • Johnconrad

    Nothing, but as you can see from the comments above, the light bulb needs to go on.

    • Ziggy Zoggy

      Johncanard;
      You don't have the brain wattage to power a pen light.

  • crackerjack

    How to win the election? Respect the electorate and address its concerns. Bashing the electorate seldom gains votes from the electorate.

    • EarlyBird

      Amen.

      • Ziggy Zoggy

        All hail Obama! Praise be his name!

    • Ziggy Zoggy

      Crackheadjack;
      Then how did the Anointed One ascend his throne?

      • crackerjack

        By respecting the electorate and addressing its concerns. Romney lost by insulting the electorate and dismissing its concerns, similar to the approach in this article.

        • Mary Sue

          Obama won by playing "Here Comes Santa Claus, Here Comes Santa Claus"

        • Ziggy Zoggy

          Bwah, ha ha! The majority of the electorate didn't even vote and that mincing little elitist doesn't respect anybody-especially the morons and racists who voted for her!

          Forward! Bwah, ha ha!!!!

      • EarlyBird

        "Then how did the Anointed One ascend his throne?"

        Uh…gee. By like, winning an election?

        • Ziggy Zoggy

          Uh….gee, by like, being borne aloft by his pro bono campaign staff in the media and idiotic White guilt?

  • Jim_C

    I love how you guys think you just haven't played enough hardball, or gone after Obama's character, and stuff like that (despite Rev. Wright, birther b.s., Benghazi, "Muslim" "Kenyan" "communist" etc.)

    I'm tickled that you think you made too many appeals to people's intellect, but not their hearts (despite "death panels," "government option," "makers vs. takers," etc.)

    I'm pleased that you think your elected leaders have been too solicitous of Democrats (despite McConnell's "priority," abuse of the fillibuster, and general policy of obstructionism.")

    I'm enjoying the gerrymandering orgy the GOP is hoping to engineer, or the kind of voter suppression Mike Turzai champions. That screams confidence in the GOP message!

    And I especially love how you all try to reconcile this with what Jindal, et al. are saying about how you've been the "Party of Stupid." (no argument, there!)

    I'm loving GOP message wizard Frank Luntz taking sayings like "cut medicare benefits" and turning it into "protect and preserve entitlements;" or getting rid of appeals for "smaller government" in favor of "better, more efficient government." You're even going soft on those illegals! With any luck, pretty soon, your platform will look just like the Democrats'!

    I'm lovin' it! And I can't wait to see what ya got next!

    • reader

      "With any luck, pretty soon, your platform will look just like the Democrats'!"

      That would require an outright lying, and the problem is that you only get away with that, when the media does it for you as well – just like in your medicare example. The fact is that Obamacare actually cuts medicare benefits – simply by virtue of diverting the funds away from i,t – and yet the popular perception is that Paul Ryan was going to destroy the program, which is the opposite of truth.

    • Mary Sue

      They didn't play enough hardball, because millions of Republican voters STAYED HOME rather than vote.

      • EarlyBird

        Mary Sue, I think in their heart of hearts, including those on this board, conservatives realize they are out there and need to rebuild. The GOP currently is not fit to lead. They are ideological zealots, not problem solvers, and they are angry and immature.

        They'll come around. It's a question of how many times they get beaten and how willing to purge the stupidity the leaders of the GOP are.

        • Ziggy Zoggy

          Girlybird,
          your trollish projection is tedious.

      • Ziggy Zoggy

        Mary Sue;
        Exactly right. The majority of registered voters sat out the election and that doesn't even count the eligible voters who don't even bother to register.

        But trolls will be trolls……

        • Jim_C

          You really know how to make excuses, don't you, Ziggy?

    • Maxie

      Jim_C you're drowning in ephemera. It comes down to a simple, overarching dichotomy: Liberty or Tyranny. Leftist ideology demands top-down control and regulation of the public to make its concocted, flawed edicts work. Such edicts, of necessity, breed more 'corrected' but also flawed edicts, etc. Controls and regulations metastisize into an ever-growing regulatory strait jacket Tyranny is the result. Man is not a herd animal.

      • Jim_C

        That is the philosophy, yes. Articulating it and making it real for people who have seen and lived through the opposite–the downsides of deregulation–is the challenge.

    • Ziggy Zoggy

      Jim=(
      if you can explain how Romney and the Republicans exposed Obama/s manifest incompetence, failures, crimes and stupidity I'd "love" to hear it, rather than the sound of crickets.

      What exactly are you loving? Obama will never be able to drag this country into the left-wing sewer, no matter how hard the media try. I couldn't care less what regurgitated DNC talking points you've got next.

      • Jim_C

        Obama was competent enough to get re-elected by margins equal only to FDR, Eisenhower, and Reagan. Competent enough to pass Nixon's health care reform, something no president had been able to do. Competent enough to begin the process of getting us out of the dumbest foreign policy in our history. Competent enough to be the president who made bin Ladin pay for 9/11. Competent enough to put a floor under an economy in freefall when he took office.

        I know you're a fact-averse nitwit but try that on for size.

  • RAILHEAD

    A lot of people are so disgusted with whats going on in the District of Coruption. that they did not vote. The GOP under Bush screwed them selves and then in 2012 they could not beat a President with the worst record in History. come on I don't have much faith in any of them

  • Rostislav

    The thing which baffles me is that the debate pictures American voters as absolutely brainless creatures with no opinion of their own. Even I, a faraway Russian, understand that the US business runs abroad (just like our Russian one, by the way) not because of some evil CEO (Romney or whoever), but because of overtaxing, of over-bureaucracy, of over-nearly-everything. Meanwhile, I'm not an expert, being simply an inquisitive witness of things right before my eyes. Are Americans blind? Of course, not! Then – what's the real cause of our difference? I do not say that the Russian voters are wiser – God save me from such a lie! BUT: as a result of many oppressed, shot and imprisoned generations, our present-day Russian voters are mainly but absolutely cynical. Hence they have one very firm opinion: believe nobody as far as all politicians are against you. To escape possible punishment, vote as they say, run home and live as before, hoping for your own resources only. That's too bad, naturally (exactly this voters' opinion makes all the Putin's victories), but still it IS an opinion, and I'd say, not a brainless one. I can't believe that your voters are just gaping at their screens, waiting for Mr. My Opinion to appear – if the things are really that sad, then any articles and debates are just too late, be Mr. M.O. a very noble Republican, a very vile Communist or some queer Commurep novelty. Rostislav, Saint-Petersburg, Russia.

  • Geppettwo

    The Republicans long ago decided that their best strategy was to take and hold the "high ground." React to mendacious accusations emanating from seemingly everywhere nowadays, by remaining stoic, respectful and humble, excuse and never accuse their adversaries and exercising great self control. Completely analogous to the "enlightened, intellectual, sophisticated" parent who lets little Johnny go unpunished for what most of us got our little backsides whipped for.

    Those representing the Republican's adversaries, pick your favorite label, get away with their outrageous claims because no one of any repute vigorously and angrily calls them on it. How difficult can it be and why has this gone on for so long that the lies have now become accepted dogma?

    What's the result? I have a very good friend who voted for Obama in 2012. I was dumbfounded and asked why. There were two reasons. One, Romney's 47% gaffe. Two, a vote against Obama was mostly motivated by racism. What could possibly be the origin of these opinions? It should be obvious. This person is not stupid but not well informed and had an emotional response to all of the anti-Conservative clap trap broadcast and written daily by Obama's legions in the press, the media and Hollywood, clap trap so outrageous that it leaves one scratching their head in dismay that the Left were not only allowed to get away with it but were aided and abetted in the process. They still are.

    This has got to change. Mr. Horowitz is a former Alinsky style radical himself. He knows the power of the emotional argument. Republicans need to learn to stick to their basic conservative principles, deliver those principles with clarity and conviction, demonstrate how those principles are far and away superior to those that are falsely portrayed as "the way forward" and deliver that message like a punch in the gut. It's long overdue but not too late to take off the kid gloves.

    Of course this requires that the messengers be firmly committed to Conservative principles and capable of delivering that message with clarity, conviction, self confidence and, of course, emotion. Check this out:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50vUx0DfGtE

    But this does not represent a nuanced, sophisticated, intellectual, respectful, mature attitude. No. It's an “in-your-face,” toe to toe, point for point dismantlement of the favorite and perpetually unchallenged mantras of the left by a guy unabashed and unashamed of his American, conservative convictions. The gun debate is throughout but is really discussed in earnest at around the 11:30 mark but the entire ½ hour interview is worth a look. At the end, Nugent demonstrates the absurdity of the gun control argument by proposing to ban water so that there'll be no more deaths by drowning; demonstrating absurdity with absurdity. Not nuanced, not subtle, not sophisticated and delivered with a stiff spine and an air of smug superiority but “in your face.”

    • EarlyBird

      Wow. Republicans lose because they take the high road? Not on this planet. Ever here of John Mitchell, Lee Atwater, Newt Gingrich, Karl Rove, the Swift Boat campaign to slime Kerry as a communist, the campaign to slime multi-amputee Congressman Max Cleland for being "unpatriotic"?

      How about Obama is a secret Muslim terrorist born in Kenya, and all the nonsense that the right wing spews.

      Neither party has the high ground.

      • Drakken

        Yet you continue to shrill for the left, it would be funny as hell if it wasn't so tragic.

      • Ziggy Zoggy

        Girlyturd;
        Spouting that many lies proves who cant take the high ground, alright.

        • Geppettwo

          Lies? Could you be more specific?

          • Ziggy Zoggy

            Obama is a Kenyan muslim terrorists, the Swifties "slimed" that traitor Kerry, etc.

            Could you be specific about any truths Girlybird wrote?

      • Geppettwo

        I suppose this is what they call “engagement” with an adversary. I call it a lot of work likely for nothing other than self gratification.
        Neither party has the high ground? Which high ground are we talking about? The legacy media, academia, Hollywood and the bulk of the entertainment industry are not on the "high ground" I'm referring to. The Republicans have not been granted anywhere near equal ground in that space so the only unchallenged ground left is where they feel they must go. If you interpret my comment as praise for Republicans in this regard then you've missed the point.

        The public is not getting a balanced view from this communications empire. That's the view of many who're working to expose the predominant, so called "Left wing" prejudice being conducted by people who outwardly applaud their self proclaimed, politically correct, multicultural, racial and religious tolerance and respect for diversity, while daily proving they're incapable of practicing what they preach.

        It was incorrect to state that the "high ground" was taken by Republicans, a poor choice of words on my part. Mia culpa.They were put on the ground they're on, pick your own adjective, by the "unbiased" communications monopoly held by the legacy media, academia, Hollywood, the entertainment industry and some very rich people who have either grown up or later learned to hate America. George Soros for example.

        In most cases, when a Republican makes the headlines, like the ones you chose to list, it's because there is at least some evidence, whether pertinent, accurate or not, behind their accusations. This is the Republicans playing politics on a par with their political adversaries but risking being skewered by a legacy media who will work as hard to dispute their "outrageous" charges as they work to protect their ideological contemporaries. Constantly being figuratively slapped in the face and called every derogatory, ad hominem name in the book when you step out of your "pigeon hole" into the media spotlight is not conducive to making idle accusations or threats on the basis of playing politics as usual. The Left's attack machine is brutal and very effective.

        My comment was not intended as praise for my fellow Republicans. It was intended to be critical of their political strategy. Right now their wringing their hands, wallowing in self criticism, bickering, unnerved by the split represented by the Tea Party, the threat to incumbency and the loss to Obama in 2012. Why did they lose? They're searching for answers and looking in all the wrong places. Why? So they can continue their futile quest to gain favor with an alien press, one of those unspoken facts that no Republican will admit is a factor because it demonstrates their impotence to influence the media to modify their message, a message often devoid of relevant content and diametrically opposed to anything of consequence republicans have to say.

        Rather than confront this political firestorm by refuting Obama's fecklessness and risk being labeled racists, they search for a more appealing message, meaning one that will curry favor with a democratic machine from which they cower in fear, preferring to "take the high ground," be above the fray. Let the attack dogs have their say. They're determined to act as though they're above it all. That's condemnation not praise. I'm sure this will do nothing for you but if you're interested in watching a demonstration of where I think the republicans should go, instead of this "high ground," watch the video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50vUx0DfGtE) of Ted Nugent, a conservative, on Peirs Morgan's TV show. He's unapologetically, unabashedly in Morgan's face while Morgan valiantly struggles to do what the legacy media is extremely good at, embarrass and render Nugent as an irrelevant, right wing, knuckle dragging hack. It backfired because Nugent didn't back down, didn't flounder or cringe in embarrassment or fear. He countered Morgan's talking points by politely and forcefully defending his position with facts, not angry, self defeating rhetoric. This is as good an example as any of the ground where the conservatives need to go. It's not the “high ground” you objected to.

      • Geppettwo

        To continue with my reply.

        Republicans are floundering around, searching for the "right message." They already have a better, stronger, more relevant, tried and true message consisting of solutions, not accusatory, vitriolic rhetoric aimed at denigrating the opponent and stifling any meaningful debate. They will undoubtedly not have the ultimate best solutions, America is and always has been a work in progress, but they are demonstrably better on the basis of logic and experience, not some unproven, intellectual, doctoral thesis on radical, societal evolution devoid of experience or consideration of the realities of human nature. America is not an academic playground for radicals hell bent on ruling the world by destroying their host.

        The democrats have a litany of "solutions" to the nations problems. Government stimulus called "investment," Higher taxes on "the rich" who're are "not paying their fair share," spend more, "we don't have a spending problem," get more on government subsidies (the redistribution of wealth), gut the military, make the world a "safer place," The Green Energy initiative, Gun Control, Judicial activism, Card Check, Voter anonymity, Open Border Immigration "reform", Obamacare, no fix for Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, etc. etc.

        The economy stumbles along at a pathetic pace fundamentally ignored by a media that perpetually squeals about "weakness" when the GDP is advancing at normal and above normal levels, the unemployment level is hovering around 5% and the "evil" George W. Bush is president. Does anyone detect a disconnect here?

        They're never challenged by any Republicans, other than in an overly conciliatory fashion and feigned reasonableness, on FOX News and conservative talk radio, both of which are routinely demonized and disparaged as being what they are not but what the accusing cabal is, left wing extremists incapable of objectivity and mired in the socialist/progressive dogma. If the republicans cannot or will not break the stranglehold the legacy media has on public opinion, America will become another failed experiment in the "redistribution of wealth" and dependence on a paternalistic, patronizing government as it continues to ignore the numerous examples of failure around the western world. Socialists, Progressives, Communists always seem to look at the failures of others as incompetence, convinced that they can make the same policies work. And so it goes in a never ending cycle desperately in need of a major directional shift.

  • http://twitter.com/KaitlinSteven @KaitlinSteven

    That screams confidence in the GOP message!

    • Ziggy Zoggy

      Actually, that fact that leftists and Dems have to resort to lies to make their message palatable to the public says much more about the GOP message than your vapid comment.

  • Rhonda

    Many female voters were afraid that Romney was going to make all abortions illegal. Also, the Mexican community was afraid we were going to deport all of the illegals who are related to all of the legals. Romney never stood up and "I'm not going to make abortion illegal". Plain and simple. Yes he and we conservatives are pro life, but we can't reverse Roe vs Wade after such a long time. That is not realistic. We can reverse laws such as killing alive aborted fetuses, which Obama voted FOR. Also, we need to be more realistic about the illegals. We need immigration reform so that it won't take ten years for these people to become citizens. We don't want the criminals, but most of these people are God loving, family oriented and hard workers! That's what we need to lift our economy out of this slump! And btw, in my county, the only new businesses are Mexican businesses!

    • EarlyBird

      "That is not realistic."

      That's the problem right now pretty much with everything the Republicans support: not realistic. They are not wedded to reality, they are wedded to ideology. American voters see that and had no choice but vote for Obama who at least lives on planet earth.

    • Drakken

      Import the 3rd world, you become the 3rd world, so frankly unless you want to become where they come from, to hell with illegals and all the reletives they brought with them, no amnesty period.

  • Lynda Martinez

    the two best political analysts in America today are David Horowitz and Governor Sarah Palin. bar none. They are nobody's fools. They get how to attack the enemy. They need to be listened to above all others.

    • EarlyBird

      Sarah Palin has absolutely no understanding of or interest in how government or governance works. But she is an outstandingly gifted self promoter and demagogue. She was SO very unprepared for the AK governorship, and even her fellow Republicans in the State house saw immediately that she was in way over her head, and miserable on the job. She literally didn't understand the basic functions of government, and found the whole "governor" part of her job tedious.

      She's a lady who believes that all she needs in life is chutzpah and looks. She disdains people with actual knowledge as eggheads. She is an embarrassment to conservatives and an indictment of how low the GOP has sunk. McCain should be jailed for putting her in a position to possibly become Veep, let alone POTUS.

      • Mary Sue

        Uh, what? What can you use to demonstrate this alleged lack of Understanding in Sarah Palin other than a Saturday Night Live skit portrayed by Tina Fey?

  • lynda

    Daniel Greenfield is an extremely important writer.

  • Maxie

    Few people seem to understand that America is in the midst (or near the end?) of an asymmetric political war that has taken us to the brink of revolution. The root of this assymetry is that the Left is Agenda-driven with the focus on establishing international collectivism, nee: Marxism.. It is well-organized and committed with a religious fervor to this objective 24/7/365. In contrast the American Right is not only provincial it is apparently of the larger ambitions of the Left. Furthermore, the domestic Right (i.e.; the GOP) is philosophically divided — conservative vs. RINO — and therefore politically inept and impotent.
    Until and unless the GOP changes this crippling dynamic and VIGOROUSLY fights to maintain our Constitutionality the Left will continue to move us closer to a coercive, authoritarian tyranny.

    • Maxie

      Correction: "In contrast the American Right is not only provincial it is apparently IGNORANT of the larger ambitions of the Left.

  • Ghostwriter

    I think we should wrap an emotional argument with a logical argument. Say for instance that the new healthcare law will destroy the insurance you have now. A logical argument combined with an emotional one. I think it can work and will ultimately help us in the future.

  • EarlyBird

    The GOP has become too ideological to govern. It's that simple.

    Good conservative values like "strong defense, low taxes, low spending, individual initiative, law and order," have hardened into "Bomb our foreign policy troubles away!, ALWAYS cut taxes and NEVER raise them on anyone, ONLY cut our way out of budget deficits, government is the ENEMY, and throw everyone away and lock up the key, including all 11 million illegals!"

    Radicals like many on this website have been so busy pruning RINOs, that "big tent" conservatism has become a pup tent. If you're not JUST like them: Christian, business owner, member of a nuclear family, preferably white, Southern and a hunter – you're the Enemy.

    • Maxie

      Exceptional physical attributes like being quite tall, exceptionally agile, balanced, able to sink a jump shot from the the three point line and run nine second 100 meters have hardened into the NBA. If you're not just like that you're excluded from the BIG salaries that go to those who have those attributes.

      • EarlyBird

        What an odd retort, Maxie. Are you saying, then, that conservative values are the exclusive realm of the people I described? If so, don't wonder why the GOP keeps losing elections.

        • Mary Sue

          The GOP keeps losing elections when the Leadership puts forth bland moderate candidates when the voters want actual conservatives. There is really no more mystery than that.

          Also obama voter fraud sure doesn't help.

  • Barakus abomidas

    Do ya hear that commin? Dats my obbma care law. Its gonna crush you right into poverty, and ya can't stop it. Its the law sukkers! Crakers gonna be crying for dey momma! I'm gonna love watchin dis from my white house while watchin crakers get smoked by slaves.

    • Ghostwriter

      You really are a slug,aren't you,Barakus?

    • EarlyBird

      And you wonder why conservative get a bad rap? Geez.

      • Ghostwriter

        Well,at least I don't sound like some stereotype from the 1930's,EarlyBird.

        • EarlyBird

          That's true, Ghosty!

  • EarlyBird

    Conservatives don't realize how incredibly successful and dominant the Reagan Revolution was. We are soaking in it, for better AND for worse. We have been doing Trickle Down economics for 30+ years. I used to be for it, since it sounds smart on its face. But if it worked, we wouldn't have been falling behind in so many ways for the past 30+ years.

    It is true that the middle class is shrinking dramatically, that the rich are getting incredibly richer while others are just barely holding on. That's not "class warfare," it's facts. There is a sense, right or wrong, that the wealthy elite – regardless of political affliliation – have rigged the system. THAT is what makes conservatives such rich targets for Democrats.

    That does not mean that Obama's paleo-liberal economics makes sense either. But when the answer to ANY economic circumstances are ALWAYS "reduce taxes and regulations so business can thrive and lift all boats," you know this has become orthodoxy, not serious economic analysis.

    • Drakken

      Spoken like a true communist, your understanding of economics is really astounding, for you don't know anything about foreign policy, and know even less about economic, macro or micro , where it concerns govt interaction.

      • EarlyBird

        But you can't really debate the issues I raised, can you Drakken? I'll try to help:

        Do you believe the Reagan Revolution wasn't successfully enacted in America?
        Do you think that the American people have been gaining ground for the past 30 years?
        Do you think US infrastructure, education and competitiveness has been improving for the past 30 years?
        Do you think Republicans have been more creative than I assert?
        Where do you think I'm wrong, specifically?

        I can't do your thinking for you, Drakken. But don't say I haven't tried.

  • Ghostwriter

    But,EarlyBird,sky high tax rates don't always help either. I wish that people like you would understand that.

    • EarlyBird

      I haven't called for "sky high tax rates," have I? For argument's sake, let's say Obama has. The answer in a fiscal situation as bad as ours, in an era where the actual income tax rates on the super rich have been very low over a period of decades, the answer is not "Lower taxes!" like the GOP is screaming.

      We need to cut AND tax our way out of this mess. And we have to do so smartly, or we shoot ourselves in the foot. Everything must be on the table. And let's overhaul the tax code dramatically. To do anything, the Republicans are going to have to drop the obstructionist-pretending-to-be-principled conservatives. They must govern.

      Cut Defense, change Medicare and SSI rules (small ways), raise certain taxes, remove a lot of tax loopholes, and stop listening to Zionist warmongers.

    • EarlyBird

      Oh, let's also recall that after one of the most disastrous banking system collapses we've ever suffered, which put America and the world economy through so much pain, the Republicans fought sensible recalibration of Wall Street rules. That's not sticking to conservative guns; it's suicide.

      • Johnconrad

        Bird,

        I'm glad you're this complacent.

        It makes the job easier.

        • EarlyBird

          Your job being to turn us into current-day Russia?

          • Mary Sue

            I thougth that was your job, you egg mc muffin eating McDonald's mascot.

  • melvin1z

    White Christians are responsible for creating the great Jewish financial wizard; they will trust nobody but a Jew to handle their assets. Senators and congressmen owe their millions to the Chosen People`s investment managers. Only a Schmuck would want anybody but guys with names like Goldberg or Silverman to watch over their money.