French Man Attacked by Muslims for Eating Ham Sandwich


Men and women wait in separate lines to order at McDonald's in Riyadh's Faisaliah mall

This is how Islamic law begins. With threats of violence and intimidation that force everyone to fall in line. The actual totalitarian system just enforces what everyone has already accepted.

The process is not any fundamentally different in Syria, France or Turkey. Enough Muslims willing to engage in violence will force non-Muslims to submit to Islam. That’s the plan. It’s the plan behind September 11 and attacking a man eating a ham sandwich.

That’s the plan. That’s Islam.

A 23-year-old man filed a complaint on the 8th of June after having been attacked the previous evening at 9.30 pm in a city tramway by two strangers. They struck him several times on the face because he was eating a ham sandwich. The two attackers, who claimed to be Muslims, said they were offended by this consumption of pork in front of their eyes before attacking the young man. A witness, a friend of the young man who was present when the incident occurred, has been interviewed by the investigators and has confirmed the reality of the attack. The two attackers, who fled, have not yet been found. The CCTV tapes in the tramway are currently being examined.

I’m sure there will be some talk of combating extremism that will come to nothing. And the cycle of Muslim violence will continue.

This isn’t about foreign policy. It’s not about French troops in Mali or Bali or anywhere else. This is about imposing Islamic values through violence. That’s the source of all Muslim violence, whether it’s terrorism or acid attacks or rapes. It’s about imposing Islam on non-Muslims.

  • tagalog

    Wow, it’s a darn good thing that people in the U.S. don’t have people telling them what they can eat and what they can’t eat, particularly if they’re fat. Hooray for liberty in America! Those tyrannical Muslim no-goods!

    • objectivefactsmatter

      Maybe Bloomberg was come out as a full-on jihadi and start chopping off hands of people eating haram and drinking excessively large sweet drinks, or excessively salty foods.

    • WhiteHunter

      “Telling” is one thing. Smashing a stranger in the face and running away is another. Or do you see no difference?

      • tagalog

        Wow, touché! I wish I’d been smart enough to make that distinction! Thanks for enlightening me! I’ll be sure to be much more careful in my wording in the future!

    • Laura

      If you are in NY you can’t have those…..lol

  • DogmaelJones1

    Tagalog: Unfortunately, we’re under the same Koranic cuisine siege. Butterball turkeys are slaughtered halal style, and the Olive Garden, owned by Darden Industries, buys its meats from companies that use halal slaughtering methods. Which is why I no longer patronize the Olive Garden. God know how many other restaurant chains are doing the same thing.

    • tagalog

      At least the Muslims have religious doctrine behind their demands. Allah tells them what to do about other people eating what they don’t like. In America, we have people demanding that others do what they say because we’re living in a command system economy, including the health care system.

  • glpage

    The 2nd Amendment, concealed carry, and the right to defend oneself might produce a different outcome here.

    • tagalog

      What are you gonna do, shoot somebody who tells you they want to ban 32-ounce sodas?

      • glpage

        I live in Texas. If someone attacks me I have the right to defend myself if I did not provoke the attack and I perceive I am in danger of imminent bodily injury.

        Here’s a link that describes applicable Texas Law:

        http://www.self-defender.net/law3.htm

        • tagalog

          There’s nothing in that statute you linked to about shooting someone for attacking you, except this: “The use of deadly force is not justified under this subchapter except as provided in Sections 9.32, 9.33, and 9.34.”

          The statute says you can use “reasonable force” under the circumstances, but if they’re unarmed, your unit is going to be in the wringer, even in Texas.

          Tell the pharmacy to put a hold on that Vaseline jar.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            “The statute says you can use “reasonable force” under the circumstances, but if they’re unarmed, your unit is going to be in the wringer, even in Texas.”

            You still win as long as you don’t go too far. If they’re unarmed and you’re armed, how are they going to successfully take away your sandwich or drink?

          • SapperSteel

            Tagalog: You need to become familiar with the concept of disparity of force. Two men attacking one is an example. The disparity of force justifies the victim’s use of a weapon in order to achieve sufficient power to stop the attack.

          • tagalog

            You, in your turn, need to become familiar with the law governing the non-criminal use of deadly force in defense of self or others.

          • tickletik

            9.32 – 3 – “(A) to protect himself against the other’s use or attempted use of unlawful deadly force; or
            (B) to prevent the other’s imminent commission of aggravated kidnapping, murder, sexual assault, aggravated sexual assault, robbery, or aggravated robbery.

            I’m not sure if stealing someone’s ham sandwich qualifies as armed robbery, but altho I am not an attorney, I would imagine that one could make the argument that being attacked by two religious fanatics would qualify as a suspicion of robbery or attempted murder.

            Note the word “or” at the end of 9.32.3.A, which again, altho I am not an attorney, implies in English that section 9.32.3.B applies even where deadly force is not being used.

            Note also section 9.31.a, which starts off pointing out that “a person is justified in using force against another when and to the degree he reasonably believes the force is
            immediately necessary to protect himself against the other’s use or attempted use of unlawful force.”, which, once again altho I am not a lawyer, implies that it is my reasonable belief that is the key issue here.

            Whether the two young gentlemen were actually making a prank or simply meant to pretend to be mean is totally irrelevant. That they are making a threat to cause me harm based on what is obviously an insane reason gives me legit cause to suspect that they will attempt to do a lot worse than take my ham sandwich (altho personally i think theft on any level is robbery) – hence, based on this statute anyway, it seems clear (altho I grant that juries and judges are insane) that I have right to pull out my handgun and send them screaming back to hell.

            Now granted that, I will be a bit more blunt. If you want to argue that the law is an ass, and that the truth is the US has become a lawless country, I’ll grant that and thanks for the warning.

            If you are trying to tell us we need to put ourselves at real risk simply to obey a court system that doesn’t give a rats whisker about us, well…

            A man has obligation to live my dear.

          • Brian Hager

            Tickletik, they did not steal anyone’s ham sandwich. They attacked him because he was eating a ham sandwich. If these savages do not like the laws in Europe or in North America, then they should stay the hell away from these continents!! Yes, if they attacked me for no reason, then I would also shoot them.

          • Laura

            You are so right. If and when, God forbid, you get attacked just remember not to defend yourself be all means possible. I, however, will shoot. Better my children keep their mom than my attackers. Selfish yes, but they should not attack. If a small woman attacks me and knows martial arts, I will shoot. If a man, that is not a dwarf, attacks me, I will shoot. If there is more than one of ANY attacker, I will shoot. If someone does not want to get shot, don’t attack.

      • 1Indioviejo1

        Yes.

        • tagalog

          Is that a “Yes” on the giant economy size jar of Vaseline? ‘Cause when you get your 30 years to life sentence, you’re gonna need it.

          • Drakken

            Just because you wouldn’t take action to save your life from harm, doesn’t mean everybody else will react the same as you.

          • tagalog

            Your understanding of my actions matches the understanding of the use of deadly force that is revealed in this thread.

          • Drakken

            When you are attacked by 2 or more folks, there isn’t a prosecutor in the nation that is going to try you in a court by a jury of your peers for protecting yourself from harm, especially in a lot of states that written statute that there is no duty to retreat.

          • tagalog

            Really? If you shoot somebody who is unarmed for assaulting you? Wanna bet on that?

            One of my biggest laughs as a defense attorney is when one of my clients tells me that “no jury in the country would convict me for what I did.” Wanna bet 30 or so years of your life on that claim?

            Juries are usually more willing to throw the book at a defendant who uses deadly force than the judge is. Shooters scare them, especially shooters who fire more than once. Just watch the trials they show on TV carefully, don’t take my word for it.

          • tickletik

            I gave you a thumbs up, because I think the average man needs to make himself aware of the law. Most of us excuse ourselves from this because we aren’t attorneys. Which is how bad law gets legislated.

          • Laura

            Defend the criminal? What do we have to defend ourselves when being attacked. People who say not to defend yourself make me sick. These are the same people who have given criminals rights to attack us, and HOPEFULLY we will survive to testify. Exactly what is wrong with this world.

      • Drakken

        You can articulate anything in a report, just drop a knife by the savages, easy peasy.

        • tagalog

          Right. I know I always carry that handy-dandy throw-away knife.

      • Kyle Kendall

        At least you still have your sandwich!!

      • Philip Murray

        Personally if i was confronted by 2 religious freaks over a ham sandwich I would run amuck on them and leave quickly as they did. Freedom must be defended whenever it is challenged.

  • OfficialPro

    The correct response is: “I don’t give a ***k if you’re offended. Close your eyes.”

    What I find weird is how the muslims even KNOW ham, IN A SANDWICH, from any other meat just by looking at it? While some guy’s eating it?

    • objectivefactsmatter

      “What I find weird is how the muslims even KNOW ham, IN A SANDWICH, from any other meat just by looking at it? While some guy’s eating it?”

      And technically it’s only offensive because others are not obeying sharia. It’s purely about enforcing their totalitarian beliefs. It’s not offensive to muslims when non-muslims observe forbidden activities when they clearly don’t have the ability to object. They’re excused.

      Islam is all about looking for and creating “Islamic grievances” (pretexts for enforcing sharia). That is all anyone needs to understand about these attacks It could have been a turkey or beef sandwich. What’s important is creating a bogus grievance.

    • Drakken

      The correct response should have been one in the head and one in the heart.

      • OfficialPro

        Unfortunately I don’t believe France allows Concealed Carry…

  • 1Indioviejo1

    The man should have stood his ground. Everyone needs to be armed at all times and ready to defend themselves at every opportunity. Barring self defense we will be slaves.

    • Joey1

      You forgot he was French.

  • Nigel Miller

    The next Miss World is being held in Indonesia, a Muslim country. They’ve had to ban bikinis due to pressure from Muslim hardliners. Their country, their rules.

    Last week six men robbed Selfridges, one of the biggest department stores in London, and got away with £1m worth of luxury goods. They were wearing Muslim womens’ burkas which concealed axes and guns.

    France has banned the burka. Yesterday French police tried to arrest a woman wearing one in a Paris suburb. They were attacked and forty riot police had to be called to restore order.

    So much for Islamic tolerance.

    • Chris Smalls

      That’s what they get for banning an article of clothing. What’s next? No turbans? (Sidenote: I’m an Atheist-American)

      • Nigel Miller

        Tell me more about how you can rob a shop by concealing your gender and hiding axes and guns wearing a turban.

        • brolly321

          dunno about the bikini, you could just have a generous endowment, and be pleased to see them.

  • objectivefactsmatter

    “I’m sure there will be some talk of combating extremism that will come to nothing. And the cycle of Muslim violence will continue.”

    We’ve got to end the cycle of violence. Eating a ham sandwich is very offensive to many cultures, and it is morally equivalent to being slapped in the face..or worse. The ham eater started it.

    The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam.

    Thank you for your attention, BO

  • Gawth

    This story is clearly made up and lacks any journalistic integrity.

  • SNLDallas

    Terrorism, violence and hatred is not the teaching of Islam. The fanatic group of Muslims is ruining the peaceful religion, Islam. Please visit http://www.alislam

    • Drakken

      BWAAAAAHAAAAA ! Holy dog sh*t batman ! I haven’t laughed that hard in awhile. So muslim, who are us infidels to believe? You muzzy? Or our lying infidel eyes? Your false cult is an abomination to mankind and a blight upon humanity. Take your false pedophile goat effing profit Mohamed(may you pizz on his dusty bones) and get bent.

    • objectivefactsmatter

      I thought Saturday Night Live was based in New York?

      And it’s not funny any more.

    • R_Pipkin

      Instructions for the overthrow of society are in the koran. I’ve read it and have heard a “muslim scholar” admit the instructions are there.

      Peddle your BS elsewhere…

    • rangerider

      Please show in what way is islam being distorted? This people seem to be true believers and do not deviate at all from the koranic teachings!

  • ziggy zoggy

    I’m going to remember this the next time I see somebody eating hummus or falafel.

    • objectivefactsmatter

      How about the next time they eat without washing their hands properly? We can report them to Bloomberg.

    • Joey1

      I classify hummus and felafel as Armenian foods.

  • http://atlantarofters.blogspot.com The Sanity Inspector

    This is what happens when a lazy, selfish culture aborts itself out of existence, and has to import a hostile culture to do its scutwork.

  • CowboyLogic

    Obviously they weren’t very devout Muslims.

    If they were, the man could have held them at bay with the ham sammich until help arrived…………………..

  • wolfshades

    This story makes me want to go out and grab a full-on Fred Flintstone sized set of pork ribs, and chow down in front of them.

    • objectivefactsmatter

      That’s a hate crime now.

  • Kyle Kendall

    Brings up something that happened to me, in SF, about 15 years ago. I was at a deli, I ordered a bagel with PB and bacon (yes I know, not good for my heart or waist…but its BACON) and this person in front of me turned around with a wierd look. So I asked her what was up, her reply….”That’s not very kosher” and she turned back around. Of course I could not let it go, so I just casually said “Well it’s a good thing I am Catholic then” and she did not respond.

    • WhiteHunter

      Fantastic repartee!

  • irish7_1sg

    What really bothers me is how our politicians and media pander to these heathens and protect them. Are these liberals so stupid that they cannot see this violent behavior will only get worse with appeasement? Or, perhaps they are traitors selling us out to our enemies? Either way, Islam will never stop until it is contained, crushed or destroyed my military force.

  • brolly321

    the irony is, the majority of muslims do consume pork, as it’s derivatives (eg gelatin) are in soap, shampoo, gels and creams which are absorbed into the skin (not to mention the brain or it’s equivalent). It is more than likely in chocolate and other foodstuffs. The hypocrisy of religion reigns.

    • WhiteHunter

      Since when do they ever use soap or shampoo?

  • muslimsforpeace

    Islam does not teach any compulsion in religion.
    http://Www.alislam.org

    • R_Pipkin

      Lebanon was majority Christian 50 years ago. They are now a sliver of a minority because of actions as described above. You are either a fool or a liar. Reality screams these truths: muslims are violent dogs… The world living under islam is your goal…

  • RMorrow

    All Muslims should be deported like yesterday out of the United States. All Mosques should be bulldozed immediately.

    • Muhammed Badawy

      Bravo and that’s how you became the terrorist who believes in democracy, but if you want to talk about Islam you’d better find the Holly Quran and check what it says, and if it’s terrorism or peace, otherwise you will just hear, and in this case look what united states did to many countries and feel shame as many people could generalize as you are doing and say all Americans are….. Sorry i will not do like you…

  • Margarita Jeanne Finch-Paloz

    I am sick of it. I am forced to eat halal in Europe or in America because of Muslims, and now I can’t eat a ham sandwich in a public place because some Muslim does not like it? How and when did it happen? What’s next? I will not be allowed to read the Bible, go to church whenever I want and wear a cross on my neck? Seriously Enough is ENOUGH!!!!

  • Cuda

    What all you arm chair attorney’s are forgetting is the man did not necessarily know the reason or their intent when attacked. By Texas law he would be fully justified in protecting himself, if you live elsewhere the law my be “interpreted” differently when applied but in Texas it means exactly what it states!

  • Philip Murray

    Yes Islam is happy to use intimidation and violence to support there superior attitude towards the world and the rest of humanity. Allah and Mohammed killers of truth and freedom enemies of humanity.

    • Muhammed Badawy

      I think you know nothing about Islam, and i’m not surprised, if you are saying that GOD who created this world is a killer, but may be you don’t know because no one told you, I’m a Muslim, and Muslim means that i believe in GOD, and Islam and Holly Quran didn’t say anything from those things you are talking about or people are sticking to it, by any mean, i bet you if you found something like that, i bet you if you found that it’s not talking about the best rules that any can follow even not Muslims…

      • gregzotta

        Muslims can lie to
        the infidel to promote Islam.

      • Philip Murray

        And I think you know nothing about freedom. Good luck with that Holy Book.

  • Muhammed Badawy

    Hey Hey Hey that’s so sick :) for anyone who might believe such things, I will just say one thing, if ham meat is forbidden for Muslims, attacking someone for such a reason is also forbidden, which simply means those are not Muslims and mostly in my opinion are just paid people, and about 11 September :D i will not talk, many movies proved long time ago that it was just a game, and talked about the Jewish who didn’t attend that day and so on, believe only what you see, and i wish one day will come that all the people who commented in a very bad way will just judge when they see a true Muslim human and to know this human, read his book, and you will simply be sure that Islam doesn’t have anything to do with those stupid actions that they are sticking to this Peaceful religion….
    Thanks…

  • gregzotta

    Islam is
    not just a religion; it is a religious system, a political system and a
    military system. The Muslim Brotherhood calls for a “Civilization-Jihadist
    Process,” in which they would destroy the Western civilization from within.
    Muslims can lie to the infidel to promote Islam. Sharia law is not compatible
    with the US Constitution. Radical Muslims believe Americans are infidels; and
    the infidels will have to convert to Islam, be enslaved or be killed. They
    state, we do not want to democratize Islam, we want to Islamize democracy. That
    is what we want.

  • Yeongsu Isya Jeon

    Is it a big result of muslims’ pretending to be a very pitiful and weak minority group in a foreign country, after the momont of going through the immigration bureau for the first time to leave their such glorious motherland?