Gay “Couple” to Sue to Force Churches to Host Gay Weddings

Barrie Drewitt-Barlow

This comes from the UK, but sooner or later the same European madness will end up here as well. Obama already demonstrated total contempt for freedom of religion with the mandate. And there is no doubt that worse is coming.

Barrie Drewitt-Barlow, says he and his civil partner Tony will go to court to force churches to host gay weddings. He told the Essex Chronicle that he will take legal action because “I am still not getting what I want”.

I am still not getting what I want is the motto of the gay rights movement.

Mr Drewitt-Barlow said: “The only way forward for us now is to make a challenge in the courts against the church. “It is a shame that we are forced to take Christians into a court to get them to recognise us.”

It’s a shame that Mr. Ridiculous-Name refuses to use a church that actually recognizes his lifestyle and is instead determined to compel churches that don’t to violate their religion.

He added: “It upsets me because I want it so much – a big lavish ceremony, the whole works… As much as people are saying this is a good thing I am still not getting what I want.”

Me, me, me.

The gay couple shot to fame in 1999 when they became the first British same-sex couple to be named on their children’s birth certificates.

They entered a civil partnership in 2006, and Barrie Drewitt-Barlow has reportedly donated around £500,000 to groups lobbying for same-sex marriage.

 

  • Mike Robinson

    End times….what more can I say?

    • Norman Dostal

      youre an imbecile-end times have been coming for thousands of years

      • tagalog

        .

        • Tina

          I’ve read where they are using this gay thing to make the churches lose their tax exempt status, then close them down.

  • Elizabeth capecod

    If Christianity treated gays the way Islam does, they’d keep quiet and skulk away. They don’t know a good thing when they have it.

    • Norman Dostal

      Elizabeth, you must shut your fat mouth around men, per the bible-thank you

      • Concernedbetamax

        After you have destroyed civilization, where wil you find little boys to abuse? What a joke you are.

        • Matt Cash

          And how many Christians actually abuse children compared those who make it on the news?

          Get a life.

          • johnnydelgado

            Matt Cash, you make me laugh with your stupid comment. By the way, you should move to one of those backward muslim countries. Got that?

          • Rocky Mountain

            How many atheists abuse children but their worldview doesn’t make the news?

      • logdon

        The difference is that Christianity as the preaching of a tolerant Christ evolves.

        Islam as the immutable word of God passed down to a psychopathic killer does not.

        Got that?

        • taliesin319

          Christ is on record as saying that anyone who would harm
          little children would be better off with a millstone around their necks and then tossed into the sea. Mohammud was a child molester all his life and because he did so he gave all the idiots dumb enough to buy his crap not only the right to do so but a duty to do so. every muslim man believes he should pattern his life on the template of mohammud. Christ had no problem taking a bullwhip to a host of money changers. can you imagine the anger he’d have with child molesters of any stripe ?

      • OfficialPro

        Uh, that’s not what the Bible says.

        • Fr. John+

          you expect an unregenerate deviant who approves of sodomy to know the Bible? Christ is the SAME, YESTERDAY, TODAY, FOREVER. He cannot change.
          What has changed is the acceptance of heresy, from the Pope to the President of the Former USA. They are heretics to believe sodomy can ever be normal.

          • Daniel

            Amen!

          • taliesin319

            Thank you, Father

          • johnnydelgado

            Amen.

          • Nathaniel David Masters

            The Pope never said being gay is ok. He said that

  • pupsncats

    What will all the sexual perverts do with their time and money when the capitulation by society to complete deviancy and debauchery becomes the only reality?

    • Norman Dostal

      we’ll start coming after your unattractive children of course

      • tagalog

        You’re already doing that, aren’t you? Unattractive or not?

  • LindaRivera

    There are gay-friendly churches the ‘couple’ can marry in. But this gay UK couple are determined to do whatever they can to DESTROY the true church. The true church that believes in God and in the entire Bible. The gay couple want to FORCE Christians to DISOBEY God.

    The gay ‘couple’ are suing because they are consumed with an intense HATE for God and the Bible. This grave injustice against Christianity must not be allowed to succeed by a ‘couple’ with such rabid HATE for God.

    • Norman Dostal

      dont be a sheep-the story isnt true

      • OfficialPro

        proof plox.

      • unionville

        Tony and Barrie Drewitt-Barlow plan to mount a legal challenge over the government’s decision to ban gay couples from marrying in the Church of England.

        The civil-partnered millionaires say as committed Christians, changes to the law as part of the government’s equal marriage reforms will result in discrimination against them.

        “The government is attempting to enshrine discrimination in law against people just because they are gay,” said Barrie Drewitt-Barlow, father of five.

        “Like many couples, we look forward to being married in our local church, the same church, where our children were baptized. Now we are to be banned in law because we are gay, even if the vicar wanted to marry us”.

        He added: “It’s not just about human rights; it’s about doing what is right?”

        The pair made headlines in 1999 when they became one of the first gay couples in the UK to have children through a surrogate mother.

        Barrister Sophia Cannon, who is representing them, said:

        “The situation before us is an attempt to reconcile the inevitable confrontation between the church and the state on who defines marriage. It was a battle for them to be had, to be argued in parliament then adjudicated by the courts.

        “However, in unilaterally exempting the Church of England and Wales, before it had an opportunity to opt-in; the state has left it to the individual to challenge both institutions on an issue which they themselves have been battling since the establishment of the church.”

        Last Tuesday, Culture Secretary Maria Miller told the Commons she was putting in place a “quadruple lock” of measures to guarantee religious organisations would not have to marry gay couples against their wishes.

        It also meant the Church of England and Church in Wales faced an outright ban in providing marriages to gay couples.

        The decision was quickly criticised by equality campaigners along with the Archbishop of Wales, Dr Barry Morgan, who described it as “a step too far”.

        The former Bishop of Oxford, Lord Harries of Pentregarth, also suggested that the Church of England may one day sanction marriages for gay couples – making the ban undesirable.

        This is from PinkNews.co.uk.

      • JustSayNOtoO

        I always find it HILAROUS when a liberal calls someone a sheep, Bahahahahahaha….

      • Mel

        Oh yeah, I’m proud to be called a “sheep”. Thank you.

        27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:

        28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. (words of Jesus from John 10:27-28)

        • Wentra

          I love that!

      • Tina

        Please give me your sources for saying the story isn’t true. I’m not being sarcastic- I really want to know. Thanx

    • DilloTank

      Christianity is open to all who repent of their sins. Most people that fail to live up to the Christian teaching on sex and marriage are heterosexuals.

      Notice, most heterosexuals do not demand that the Church compromise it’s teaching and practice to accomodate their incongruent lifestyles.

    • Jesse Hutson

      Love your comment, and agree. But, just consider this…the True Church will never give in. We may see hundreds of churches cave in, but churches that really know, love, and believe God’s Word will never submit. A real Christ honoring church would close it’s doors and revert to the early Christian methods of small groups and home meetings etc. Every church has the option of doing this way before it gives into gay bullying and anti Christ agendas. And, ultimately it will come to that. So this is just the beginning. We need to be prepared as the Church to “flee into the wilderness” or go underground. This will be scripture fulfilled.

      • Gerard Neumann

        One holy catholic and apostolic. It’s here, and it won’t cave.

        • taliesin319

          Don’t be too sure. There is an immense Homosexual contingent actively practicing in both the Hierarchy and the lower ranks. The last 7 Pontiffs have not done anything to remove them and so they continue to infect the Church at its core., Read ‘ The Rite of Sodomy ” Thirteen years in the writing and extensive documentation. Five volumes follows the money trail, the prelates involved are named, the coverups in regard to moving the sexual offenders from parish to parish makes it abundantly clear just how many and who in particular did these things. Every Pontiff,
          from Paul VI ( primary archetect of Vatican II ) onward knew that the seminarys were rife with homosexual instructors who either turned a blind eye or practiced actively within the walls of their schools.
          The author is Randy Engels and any Roman Catholic who reads it knows just how serious this problem is. You may download this work to your kindle, if you belong to amazon Prime you can borrow it free of Charge from the readers lending Library included with Prime membership. Be informed, can’t solve a problem until you know just what it is. If anyone solves this problem it will be the laity not the perpertraitors of this ongoing cancer in the Holy Roman Apostolic Church the only Christian Church founded BY Jesus Christ.

      • Hisvryown

        yup!

      • taliesin319

        The Churches who perform these ceremonies, I don’t say marriages for they have no such distinction, are no longer adhering to the Bible or The Ten Commandments. Sodomy is not negotiable. No marriage of Homosexuals has ever taken place since it doesn’t have what it takes to make it valid. To marry anything to any other thing, person or product, the parts must be fused together to act as one entity and in so doing create the potential to form a product. The state has given these folks the right to hook up, live in the same dwelling, and receive the same perks given to the married. The state has no interest in where one ” Hides the sausage If indeed one has a sausage to hide ”
        It only cares about what that sausage produces. If it produces a human being the state has a vested interest in the citizen produced. No 2 women alone or 2 men alone can produce a child. A third party is necessary. This has led surrogates, to bear a child, or sperm donors. Money is exchanged in the cases of surrogacy and sperm donations. Thus the child is bought and sold like a commodity.

    • Wentra

      You are spot on. They hate the bible because it does not support their lifestyle.

    • Sara

      I love how people forget parts of the lessons from the bible for parts that are more favorable to there own thoughts and opinions. I was taught the golden rule, treat others as though would like to be treated. I was taught that god loves all his children and that it’s not our place to judge others and place judgement upon them. I was taught that we are all made in the image of the lord and that ALL are welcome in his church. Maybe these are lessons that best be remembered to create peace, show love, and allow for judgements to be cast aside.

      • LindaRivera

        Indeed, Sara, ALL are welcome in Jesus’ church!

        Christians and Jews believe very deeply in the Golden Rule!

        This does not mean we are to DISOBEY God and DISOBEY His Word. In the Bible, in the very beginning, God instituted marriage between a man and a woman. Who are we to CHANGE what God instituted and go against Almighty God?

      • LindaRivera

        I replied to this and my comment appears to be gone!

        Christians believe very deeply in the Golden Rule! ALL are indeed, welcome in Jesus church!

        In the very beginning, it was God who instituted marriage between a man and a woman. God gave Eve to Adam. I’m sure they were both EXTREMELY DELIGHTED! Viva la difference!

        As it was God who instituted marriage between a man and a woman, who are we to CHANGE what Almighty God instituted?

      • michelelebelle

        We do not judge others. That’s the entire mis=perception of Christians. The general population believes we are judging homosexuals, but in fact, we are discerning to that behavior/lifestyle because it is our belief in the Word from the Bible. It’s quite simple, yet we are accused of bigotry, which is so far from THE Truth.

    • Tina

      And because the gov’t is putting them up to it- cuz the gov’t wants to destroy familis, G-d, all of it.

    • Trevor

      I am not defending them, they are horribly wrong, and clearly evil for thinking that the government should use the force of law to persecute religions. But really? You, just like author of this article, think that because your religion demands you disapprove of their lifestyle that you change the meaning of words? They are not a ‘couple’, they are a couple. Any pair of people referenced in a situation are a couple; they do not have to be in a biblically-approved relationship. It is unnecessarily inflammatory and helps no one.

  • MT Geoff

    The Unitarian Church will be glad to host their wedding. I’d suggest finding a denomination that wants to do this rather than demanding that a church perform anathema.
    Just as I favor the UUA having the right to solemnize any marriage they choose, I stand to guard the Catholic Church’s right to refuse to perform heresy.

    • Kathy Bever

      Their whole point is to create havoc. They don’t want a church that “recognizes” gays to marry them. What they want is notoriety and to force their lifestyle on Christians, when they complain that society or Christians have forced its lifestyle on them. They could care less.

  • Norman Dostal

    silly and lies-no one wants ot get married in a church that doesnt want them-in the US churches are protected so relax, little sheep-just keep paying your tithes

    • logdon

      You’re an idiot.

    • tagalog

      But they want to have their unions recognized as marriage in a society that doesn’t want that — how can we know what they’ll want next? Just wait until the next cultural spasm?

      In the U.K., it appears that acceptance from a Church that doesn’t want them is exactly what they’re after. How long do you think it will be before that kind of thing gets to the U.S.?

      I mean, in the U.S., they’re already after Christian bakeries that don’t want to make wedding cakes for gay marriages; can the churches be all that far behind?

    • Jim Carroll

      The religious preaching may be protected, but the physical churches may not be. If the church has a basement, for example, that’s used as a parish hall that is rented out not just for wedding parties but other group meetings, the courts may decide that the churches may no longer refuse to rent the parish halls to organizations that are in conflict with that church’s beliefs.

    • objectivefactsmatter

      Nobody ever sues churches. Come on you guys. That can’t happen.

      • tagalog

        Hosanna-Tabor v. EEOC et al. (2012).

  • tagalog

    Why should Christians recognize gays?

    What does it mean to “recognize” someone?

    Under what rationale does a church HAVE to do anything other than aid its acolytes to practice their beliefs?

    Do gays recognize the Christian church? Do they have to?

    • objectivefactsmatter

      “Why should Christians recognize gays? What does it mean to “recognize” someone?”

      Watch: OMG those gays expect us to marry them? It’s very easy to recognize how ridiculous that is.

      • tagalog

        Ridiculous NOW. Later, who knows?

  • UCSPanther

    They should try doing the same with forcing a mosque to allow them to get married on its grounds.

    Probably wouldn’t end well for them…

    • elimelek

      Hey! That’s a great idea! I’d love to see them try.

    • Hisvryown

      I LOVE this comment!!!

    • Wentra

      Yep. It’s much easier to bully Christians than Muslims.

      • taliesin319

        Then we as Christians should make that a whole lot harder to do.
        There is nothing wrong with our voices. start supporting those Christian lawyers who call the bluff of these clowns and countersue them. They are a small group with big mouths and loud voices they can be made to choose their battles.

        • Wentra

          It’s easier to bully us because we don’t react with murder and riots. But, yes. They are a small noisy group that is pandered to by the media and ultra rich celebrities.

    • DunthorpeMD

      I think the govt should make them eat pork … see how that flies

    • Abduk

      Muslims kill sodomites. It’s Sharia law! Blacks kill sodomites, it’s street justice! White’s pulverize sodomites, because they are an
      abomination to the Most High God! But the spirit of evil, Satan, is now in control of national leaders; who have made right wrong and wrong right, just as the scriptures reveal. The muslims will be the last group to yield to the abomination of homosexuality. All Christian organized religions will cave-in and fall away from the truth of God .Most will not recognize the descending and miraculous anti=Christ. God hates the behaviors of sodomites and will judge then accordingly and sentence then to everlasting suffering, God is fare! All “in your face” queers will be summarily terminated under Gog’s law. Obama, himself, shall be a prime targeted sodomite, as well. His physical death will release him from his captive, Satan.

      • Tina

        But did you know that all Muslim men are pedophiles? Yes, it’s true, they hide it, but they practise it, it’s even in the Koran.
        See Anne Barnhard’ts 4-part series on this. Mind blowing.
        The UN lifted the ban on pedophilia for them- look it up!

  • elimelek

    Is it not a reasonable suggestion to ask why they don’t develop their own churches, ordain their own ministers, etc…? With all the money they put into lawsuits, they could build some really fantastic locations to hold their celebrations. I did a Google search on “atheists sue God”. I easily found a list of at least 15 different lawsuits in the last two years. So much money wasted on making a nuisance of themselves where they’re not wanted. How long before they start suing to enter our homes? Remember Lot, in the Bible.

    • tagalog

      You mean like when the archangel came to Lot, and Lot had to protect the angel from being used by the Sodomites?

    • obxpatriot

      They couldn’t care less about a “church wedding”, they’re all about changing laws!

    • Process Server

      atheists sue God
      How do they serve process on Him?

  • Carlos SpicyWeener

    It’s not about this “couple’s” Marriage: it’s about re-defining marriage for everyone else and forcing their ideology down the throat (no pun intend..er… who am I kidding?) of those who have different beliefs.

  • Carlos SpicyWeener

    But still, once you concede that Marriage is a “Right”, all else follows. Even marriage with animals, furniture, sex toys or (insert here the object of your depravity).

  • PAthena

    How can Barrie Drewitt-Barlow and his civil partner Tony be the “first British same-sex couple to be named on their children’s birth certificates.” ? Has the UK gone crazy? Sorry, two men cannot be the parents of children.

    • OfficialPro

      They probably adopted. Or one or both had kids prior to their relationship.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bryan-Schmick/100000836170959 Bryan Schmick

        I can’t see either being a reason to alter a birth certificate.

        • objectivefactsmatter

          New levels of insanity all the time.

  • hrkahler

    Do the churches have any money? They’ll be shut down. If this isn’t proof that the end is near..then I don’t know what to tell you. This is gay fascism. A Satanic agenda.

  • DilloTank

    Genesis 18 – (notice The Trinity)

    1 And the Lord appeared unto him [Abraham] in the plains of Mamre: and he sat in the tent door in the heat of the day; 2 And he lift up his eyes and looked, and, lo, three men stood by him: and when he saw them, he ran to meet them from the tent door, and bowed himself toward the ground, 3 And said, My Lord, if now I have found favour in thy sight, pass not away, I pray thee, from thy servant:……………

    20 And the Lord said, Because the cry of Sodom and Gomorrah is great, and because their sin is very grievous; 21 I will go down now, and see whether they have done altogether according to the cry of it, which is come unto me; and if not, I will know. 22 And the men turned their faces from thence, and went toward Sodom:

  • Liz

    Sounds like a 2 year old. I want, I want, gimme, gimme.

    • Wentra

      Most of them are very self-centered, immature and dramatically emotionally based on my personal experience.

  • Jenn

    “It
    is a shame that we are forced to take Christians into a court to get
    them to recognise us.” Oh, we recognize you and so does God, just maybe
    not in the all inclusive warm and fuzzy way you are hoping for.

  • MrsSpooky

    I KNEW this would happen. Civil unions, ok. But “marriages?” Marriage is a religious institution. You had to know that someone would come along and do something like this.

  • lady liberty

    Are they suing mosques?

  • http://teresainfortworth.wordpress.com/ Teresa in Fort Worth, TX

    Ummm…..can’t this dude get his “big, lavish ceremony” at just about any hall that’s available for rent? Plenty of couples get married OUTSIDE of churches, even if they are “religious” weddings…..

  • Ace Steele

    Yeah. F*ck him/them. Here’s a suggestion for “Mr. Bride to be Wannabe”, Go join a church, become part of it’s congregation, and go get married at that one. To attempt to force a church to let you do something in their sanctuary, that doesn’t jibe with their chosen doctrine is not only ignorant and self serving, it’s also an extremely douchey move. To attempt to inflict your personal lifestyle on an entity that you obviously loathe, on THEIR turf is Ignorance. What if the church sued him to be able to hold religious services at his gay bar? Would he find that just a bit improper?

  • Oilfart1

    he might not get what he wants, just what he deserves. These people should be aligned with Obama and his war on Christianity. I don’t know if they are suing a Christian church or the church of England, but suing Christian churches to gain access is just wrong.

  • JustSayNOtoO

    I want to know why Barrie isn’t trying to get married in a Temple? synagogue? Mosque?? This is just another example of the war on Christians. Why would you want to get married in a Christ when you KNOW that they considered your lifestyle a SIN??

  • http://wsimpson.wordpress.com William D Simpson

    They are not “gay” nor are they happy people! Homosexuals are the true bigots of our time.

  • Matt_F6

    Mr. Greenfield,

    You are a Shillman Journalism Fellow? I see now, one reason why journalism is in the sad state that it is: People like you claim to be journalists.

    1. “Your” article is less than half your own words or reporting.
    2. Your grammar is atrocious. You have run-on sentences, fragments, and improper punctuation.

    3. You have taken the actions of one couple and applied it to an entire section of society.
    4. You only use one source for your article, another journalist whom you do not credit.
    5. You use 2 of your few original sentences for grade-school level insults.

    Please, do the world a favor.

    1. Stop passing yourself off as a journalist.
    2. Go back to school to learn the English language.

    • logdon

      ‘I see now, one reason why journalism is in the sad state that it is: People like you claim to be journalists’.

      And you claim to speak English?

      My, my, Matt. That weird little comma. That cap P after a colon. Come on. Was ‘must do better’ a recurring problem?

      There are few things worse on blog comments than a grammar tyrant, especially an illiterate one.

      Matt, you are that moron.

      • Matt_F6

        I am not, and never claimed to be a journalist. Mr. Greenfield does. I see that you skipped over the other major deficiencies in Mr. Greenfield’s “article”. Apparently, you agree.

  • Fed Up

    Create your own church boys. Let’s see……..what should it be called? Anyone, anyone? Then, run to the media and tabloids and see how much your stupid mugs are in the “news”. Meanwhile, get ready to be beheaded in England as Islam takes over. Prime targets, the both of you.

    • Wentra

      The Church of Narcissism

  • gingerdog

    “He added: ‘It upsets me because I want it so much – a big lavish
    ceremony, the whole works… As much as people are saying this is a good
    thing I am still not getting what I want.’

    Did this remind anyone else of a petulant child/teenager throwing a tantrum?

  • Conservefreedom

    Guess I will sue Vegan restaurants and force them to serve me a juicy steak!

  • Matt Garrett

    whether true or not, that step is coming, gang. don’t kid yourselves.

  • S. Granite

    Churches will just stop granting legal documentation to certify a marriage has taken place. This means you will still be able to have your ceremony in a church, in the eyes of God but you will still have to appear before a JOTP. I say get the government out of marriage. Let the people marry as they would like but the government cannot keep expanding the definition of marriage. Where will it end? Group marriage, object marriage, livestock marriage, child marriage?

    • unionville

      The problem I have with what you suggest is that it would not protect businesses owned by Christians that provide services that are used by people getting married such as florists and caterers. They would still face lawsuits by the “aggrieved” homosexual gaystapo. Just because the government gets out of the marriage business doesn’t mean that it is not going to have to preside over the “equality” issue between traditional marriage and homosexual marriage. In order to preserve maximum freedom and not violate the 1st amendment rights, there would have to be an ironclad law that would allow for freedom of conscience and the opting out of providing those services to homosexuals if it violates your faith. And, frankly, I don’t think there is any such thing as an ironclad law. Look at what’s happening to the 1st and second amendments now in this country.

      • S. Granite

        I don’t disagree, like a conscientious objector at war time. Lets hope enough are willing to stand their ground. This battle has already been fought and lost in my state. Some have paid big fines for refusing service.

  • Michele Hriscko Cook

    We knew it was coming……………………….

  • Wentra

    They don’t just want equal marital rights. They want attention,coddling, pats on the back and special recognition. They also want to destroy the Church of Christ.

    There is no reason they can’t have their dream wedding at a Unitarian church or a lavish hotel or country club for that matter. Are they really that religious?

    No!

    The agenda is very clear and I am beginning to think that the gay lifestyle is
    synonymous with narcissism. They don’t care who or what they destroy to
    get everything they “want.” I am feeling less and less sympathetic
    towards them as they bully their way to what they “want” and attack everything that my family, friends, neighbors and I hold dear.

    • Tina

      Took the words right out of my mouth- couldn’t have said it better.

  • Lorcul10

    Why would they care to get married in a CHURCH anyway?!?!!! These guys have nothing better to do with their time. Their starting a lawsuit over something they can’t prove…..

  • RFlanary

    Dear Homosexual “Community”:

    You have every right to engage in your sick, twisted, disgusting lifestyle.

    However, you right ends where the rights of Christians begin. You do not have any right to impose your lack of morality on anyone else, just as they do not have any right to force you to not engage in your “lifestyle”. That is the essence of TOLERANCE.

    Tolerance does not mean forcing people to into abandoning their beliefs and embracing yours.

    Go find or establish a “church” that will perform your “marriage”, and leave those that disapprove alone.

    Oh, yeah, one more thing – GROW THE HELL UP!!! No one, ever, gets everything they want.

  • objectivefactsmatter

    “Mr Drewitt-Barlow said: “The only way forward for us now is to make a challenge in the courts against the church. “It is a shame that we are forced to take Christians into a court to get them to recognise us.””

    I recognize you. You just don’t like it when I do.

  • objectivefactsmatter

    But first you have to get the mob to scream for it. It doesn’t take long for that. We call it “moral progress.”

  • melissa

    If he has all that freaking money why doesn’t he start his own church so he’ll “get what he wants….”

  • Alex

    Why is couple in quotes? Are you trying to imply that they are not a couple? Or are you just unintelligent?

    • Daniel Greenfield

      Obviously they’re not a couple. Maybe a couple of somethings, but not a couple

  • Neena Lane

    This clearly isn’t about equal rights. I can’t go to a Catholic church and get married because I’m not Catholic. Wouldn’t even ask. I wouldn’t ask unless I belonged to the church. Are these guys Christian? Are they members of a Christian church?

  • Peter Raymond Hamilton

    I myself am gay. I would not want to get married in a church that wouldn’t want to marry me in the first place. It is an entirely different story, being denied access to a public service, or even being refused to be served by a private establishment. But with a religion and church you are buying into their philosophy. It would be like joining the NRA and asking them to not be pro gun, why would you join when you oppose their mission?

    And for those who are complaining in the comments below about this couple being hateful towards god or religion I find it ironic that you don’t like hate when it is directed at you!

    How would you feel if hate was directed towards you and your loved ones? You don’t like it don’t you?

    • http://doityourselfcomputing.com/ Robbi

      I believe in the right of my friends to marry,
      to love who they want to love and to be able to enjoy the same rights
      that I do as regards marriage. BUT.. here’s where we part company
      folks.. FORCING a religion to marry you when they don’t believe in gay
      marriage is just you being a spoiled brat to get your
      own way. It is someone trying to cause their rights to supersede those of another. it doesn’t work that way.

    • Tina

      You’ve got part of it right: you understand private vs public. But you need to grow up: maybe we just don’t want to be around you. Thats not hate, thats PREFERENCE.
      Go to a gay church, and LEAVE US ALONE. YOURE THE HATEFUL ONES

      • Peter Raymond Hamilton

        Tina I think you misread my comment. I’m basically am saying a church can refuse to marry you if you violated their doctrine just like those who been divorced or those who had an abortion.

  • Peter Raymond Hamilton

    And many of you use the word tolerant as if is an admiring quality! Its NOT!

    People tolerate their hour and half long commute in traffic.
    They tolerate their evil boss.
    And people tolerate slow people driving in the left lane

    • Daniel Greenfield

      That’s a good point.

  • gwm68

    Need to take a long walk on a short pier.

    • gwm68

      Hand in hand..

  • Ronnie Dauber

    This couple can sue the church organization all they want, but that will not change the standards or law set out by God. (1 Cor. 6:9). A church that is not preaching the true gospel of Jesus Christ might modify it’s own standards to appease its members in all kinds of situations, but the true church of God will not be moved because God will not be moved and He is head of His church.

  • cdawg516

    2 observations and a proposal:
    First, the author made a very interesting point. “I am still not getting what I want is the motto of the gay rights movement.” I don’t know if that’s quite it, but how would you put “we don’t care about anything else the church has to say about us so we’re going to pretend to care about this one thing so they can be guilty of discrimination” into a pithy motto?
    Second, they’re the first Brit homosexual couple to be listed on their kid’s birth certificate?!?! Seriously?! Which one of them gave birth to the kid?! The word birth is on the paper right?
    May I humbly suggest we start a group with the sole purpose of promoting only heterosexual monogamous marriage and adoption . Then we find some homosexual event planner and ask him to plan some big party for us, being sure to talk it up to him. You know ask him to go around to his sources of banners or skywriting and ask for the words “Gay Marriage is wrong” to be spelled out I. Big pretty letters. Lots of glitter. If or when he refuses we can sue, right? I mean that’s their same logic.

  • Hugh Beaumont

    How can you take these people seriously?

    • tagalog

      Do you see much of Barbara Billingsley these days?

      • Hugh Beaumont

        Last I heard she ran off with Eddie.

  • MuslimsLoveGays

    They should absolutely sue the churches…..and they should not forget to sue the mosques while they are at it as well.

  • David Clough

    They are just trying to force the churches to close their doors. Really, if what you believe does not go with the religious beliefs, then you are not part of the religion, no matter how many stupid thoughts you have !

  • charlachico

    They will NEVER make us believe that living the gay lifestyle is a good thing!! No matter how hard they try! God will have HIS way! FREEDOM FOR THE PEOPLE!!

  • LindaRivera

    Exactly!

  • Spartacus

    “He added: “It upsets me because I want it so much – a big lavish
    ceremony, the whole works… As much as people are saying this is a good
    thing I am still not getting what I want.”

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    I can’t till I get what I want – which is scum like these tortured to death.

  • TheWhiteVoice

    It would be nice to force them to get AIDS.

  • Tyuhb

    They look gay.

  • Persephone Sixty-Six

    You do realize that England has state-sanctioned religion, right?

    Look I don’t what to repeat myself so here’s a video where I pwn Gordon Klingenschmitt on the subject. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axrPtsTe-E8

  • 187thAHCDoorgunner

    Fact: The opposite of straight is not “gay”. The opposite of straight is warped. Warped is an aberration. Forcing the aberrant on the rest of us in not acceptable. The cause of the common pejoratives applied to these people is as a result of their own actions and the disgust those actions cause. Do I think that people who are “gay” deserve to be dragged behind a pickup truck? No. Can I understand why some people might be inclined to do so? Unfortunately, yes. Sew dissent; be not surprised to reap dissension.