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		<title>By: Marylin</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marylin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Apr 2013 02:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[fanttasttic! 
wonderfull thanx 
Yes but any real info? 
Great! ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fanttasttic!<br />
wonderfull thanx<br />
Yes but any real info?<br />
Great! </p>
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		<title>By: Babs</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Babs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Apr 2013 18:09:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And the bigger portion of the right didn&#039;t kill and main countless iraqis and american soldiers?  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the bigger portion of the right didn&#039;t kill and main countless iraqis and american soldiers?  </p>
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		<title>By: anor277</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[anor277]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Apr 2013 22:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What is an &#039;exact measure&#039;?  Measurement is never exact; there is always associated error.  If you think I am being tedious, I am being no more tedious than you are.  If you think there is a problem with tree-ring or ice-core data then quote the original research and criticize. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is an &#039;exact measure&#039;?  Measurement is never exact; there is always associated error.  If you think I am being tedious, I am being no more tedious than you are.  If you think there is a problem with tree-ring or ice-core data then quote the original research and criticize. </p>
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		<title>By: anor277</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[anor277]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Apr 2013 22:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ah, simple facts of which I am ignorant.  Gee, thanks a lot for informing me!  I will certainly bear your data in mind.  And yet another poster has cast doubt on modern ability to measure palaeoclimates.  Also please note that I have never prophesied any apocalypse.   
 
As regards the bankrupting of the economy (and apparently your govt is doing this, not mine) I have no idea.  Do you personally think it might be an idea to reduce the burning of fossil fuels?  The stuff is quite expensive; the petrodollars we all pay funds a lot of terrorism; fossil fuels are necessarily limited in quantity.  Is there arguably a case for conservation? ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, simple facts of which I am ignorant.  Gee, thanks a lot for informing me!  I will certainly bear your data in mind.  And yet another poster has cast doubt on modern ability to measure palaeoclimates.  Also please note that I have never prophesied any apocalypse.   </p>
<p>As regards the bankrupting of the economy (and apparently your govt is doing this, not mine) I have no idea.  Do you personally think it might be an idea to reduce the burning of fossil fuels?  The stuff is quite expensive; the petrodollars we all pay funds a lot of terrorism; fossil fuels are necessarily limited in quantity.  Is there arguably a case for conservation? </p>
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		<title>By: Western Canadian</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Western Canadian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Apr 2013 20:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What dignity?? ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What dignity?? </p>
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		<title>By: Western Canadian</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Western Canadian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Apr 2013 20:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Also ignorance, brain (both cells) washing, and terminal lack of ability to understand basic science. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also ignorance, brain (both cells) washing, and terminal lack of ability to understand basic science. </p>
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		<title>By: Western Canadian</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Western Canadian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Apr 2013 20:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Perhaps you should read the article....  yes, not going away.  But not happening for over ten years, and even quotes the grandcrackpot of GW, the shameful clown from NASA. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps you should read the article&#8230;.  yes, not going away.  But not happening for over ten years, and even quotes the grandcrackpot of GW, the shameful clown from NASA. </p>
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		<title>By: Western Canadian</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Western Canadian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Apr 2013 20:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[13,950 peer reviewed?   More of orestes (spelling??) garbage grade word in  that estimate.  Benny blew that rubbish away a long long time ago. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>13,950 peer reviewed?   More of orestes (spelling??) garbage grade word in  that estimate.  Benny blew that rubbish away a long long time ago. </p>
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		<title>By: Western Canadian</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Western Canadian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Apr 2013 20:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[SSHHHHH!  Not supposed to talk about. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SSHHHHH!  Not supposed to talk about. </p>
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		<title>By: Western Canadian</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Western Canadian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Apr 2013 20:33:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[earlyturd, you pitiable scientific illiterate, cluck does not reply to lies with truth.  He is NOT replying to lies, and what he replies with are smears, displays of ignorance, and a level of hubris that matches your own.  While on the subject, his ignorance also matches your own.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>earlyturd, you pitiable scientific illiterate, cluck does not reply to lies with truth.  He is NOT replying to lies, and what he replies with are smears, displays of ignorance, and a level of hubris that matches your own.  While on the subject, his ignorance also matches your own.  </p>
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		<title>By: anor277</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[anor277]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Apr 2013 18:35:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a matter of fact, tree ring data are highly accurate means to measure dates up to 11000 years before the present.  Why?  Because they are consistent with other forms of archaeological dating, and are internally consistent with the tree-ring data of &#039;historical&#039; trees (the trees used by J. Caesar to cross the Rhine for instance.) 
 
Ice core data can represent climatic conditions for at least 800000 years BP; the pollen and other detritus that is trapped between the layers enables estimates of the actual climatic conditions.  I believe there can be some difference between the ages of the trapped gas and the age of the ice layer.  However, you would have to consult the original literature to see how researchers resolve the problem.  That they would be aware of the problem and allow for it is guaranteed. 
 
Whether you accept these data is up to you.  As a non-specialist, I am perfectly prepared to accept that these data can represent historical and prehistorical climates. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a matter of fact, tree ring data are highly accurate means to measure dates up to 11000 years before the present.  Why?  Because they are consistent with other forms of archaeological dating, and are internally consistent with the tree-ring data of &#039;historical&#039; trees (the trees used by J. Caesar to cross the Rhine for instance.) </p>
<p>Ice core data can represent climatic conditions for at least 800000 years BP; the pollen and other detritus that is trapped between the layers enables estimates of the actual climatic conditions.  I believe there can be some difference between the ages of the trapped gas and the age of the ice layer.  However, you would have to consult the original literature to see how researchers resolve the problem.  That they would be aware of the problem and allow for it is guaranteed. </p>
<p>Whether you accept these data is up to you.  As a non-specialist, I am perfectly prepared to accept that these data can represent historical and prehistorical climates. </p>
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		<title>By: Mary Sue</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mary Sue]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Apr 2013 17:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pollen trapped in ice might indicate what species are around at the time, but depending on the pollen it could have been deposited from so many miles away that you&#039;re not reading the &quot;climate&quot; of the area, but of another area far away. 
 
In order for tree ring data to be meaningful (re: temperature), you have to know what it means.  At best you can get a hopeful temperature range, but certainly not an exact measure. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pollen trapped in ice might indicate what species are around at the time, but depending on the pollen it could have been deposited from so many miles away that you&#039;re not reading the &quot;climate&quot; of the area, but of another area far away. </p>
<p>In order for tree ring data to be meaningful (re: temperature), you have to know what it means.  At best you can get a hopeful temperature range, but certainly not an exact measure. </p>
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		<title>By: Ar&#039;nun</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ar&#039;nun]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Apr 2013 16:06:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well they have learned to speak in generalities so they can&#039;t be pinned down to specific dates. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well they have learned to speak in generalities so they can&#039;t be pinned down to specific dates. </p>
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		<title>By: Ar&#039;nun</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ar&#039;nun]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Apr 2013 16:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Earth is 4.5 Billion Years old. Science has proven at least 5 previous extinction events, all of which included catastrophic climate changes. The one thing all 5 of these events had in common was that they all happened before the invention of Coal Power Plants, SUV&#039;s and even human existance. Oh, and the planet earth survived and became better because of them. IF we are on the verge of the 6th such event, there is nothing puny little earthlings can do to stop it or even slow it down, and there is similarly nothing they could do to cause it either. We are specs of dust in the big picture.  
 
Now that you know these simple facts, do you agree the Government should continue to bankrupt the economy in the name of climate change? ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Earth is 4.5 Billion Years old. Science has proven at least 5 previous extinction events, all of which included catastrophic climate changes. The one thing all 5 of these events had in common was that they all happened before the invention of Coal Power Plants, SUV&#039;s and even human existance. Oh, and the planet earth survived and became better because of them. IF we are on the verge of the 6th such event, there is nothing puny little earthlings can do to stop it or even slow it down, and there is similarly nothing they could do to cause it either. We are specs of dust in the big picture.  </p>
<p>Now that you know these simple facts, do you agree the Government should continue to bankrupt the economy in the name of climate change? </p>
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		<title>By: gerry</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gerry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Apr 2013 14:51:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In Cairns Australia the sea water rises due to  El Nino,but no one has ever noticed. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Cairns Australia the sea water rises due to  El Nino,but no one has ever noticed. </p>
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		<title>By: tagalog</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tagalog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Apr 2013 13:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Prove it. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prove it. </p>
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		<title>By: tagalog</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tagalog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Apr 2013 13:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not so terribly long ago, some crackpot told us that the end of the world was coming on some date. 
 
That date came and went, and the world continued to turn. 
 
Then the fellow told us that he had miscalculated and the end of the world was coming a month or two later than originally prophesied.  That date came and went, and this vale of tears did not pass away.  
 
Then the guy shut up. 
 
If only we could expect the same from the global warming/climate change forecasters. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not so terribly long ago, some crackpot told us that the end of the world was coming on some date. </p>
<p>That date came and went, and the world continued to turn. </p>
<p>Then the fellow told us that he had miscalculated and the end of the world was coming a month or two later than originally prophesied.  That date came and went, and this vale of tears did not pass away.  </p>
<p>Then the guy shut up. </p>
<p>If only we could expect the same from the global warming/climate change forecasters. </p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ron]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Apr 2013 13:03:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;What&quot;,  are you paid by Al Gore. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;What&quot;,  are you paid by Al Gore. </p>
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		<title>By: anor277</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[anor277]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Apr 2013 12:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a matter of fact, tree ring data are a highly accurate means to measure dates up to 11000 years before the present.  Why?  Because they are consistent with other forms of archaeological dating, and are internally consistent with the tree-ring data of &#039;historical&#039; trees (the trees used by J. Caesar to cross the Rhine for instance.) 
 
Ice core data can represent climatic conditions for at least 800000 years BP; the pollen and other detritus that is trapped between the layers enables estimates of the actual climates.  I believe there can be some difference between the ages of the trapped gas and the age of the ice layer.  However, you would have to consult the original literature to see how researchers resolve the problem. 
 
Whether you accept these data is up to you.  As a non-specialist, I am perfectly prepared to accept that these data can represent historical and prehistorical climates.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a matter of fact, tree ring data are a highly accurate means to measure dates up to 11000 years before the present.  Why?  Because they are consistent with other forms of archaeological dating, and are internally consistent with the tree-ring data of &#039;historical&#039; trees (the trees used by J. Caesar to cross the Rhine for instance.) </p>
<p>Ice core data can represent climatic conditions for at least 800000 years BP; the pollen and other detritus that is trapped between the layers enables estimates of the actual climates.  I believe there can be some difference between the ages of the trapped gas and the age of the ice layer.  However, you would have to consult the original literature to see how researchers resolve the problem. </p>
<p>Whether you accept these data is up to you.  As a non-specialist, I am perfectly prepared to accept that these data can represent historical and prehistorical climates.  </p>
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		<title>By: figment</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[figment]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Apr 2013 11:29:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I suggest reading WattsUpwiththat blog. best info on subject.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suggest reading WattsUpwiththat blog. best info on subject.  </p>
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