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	<title>Comments on: Green Energy Triples UK Fuel Prices, May Kill Thousands over Winter</title>
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		<title>By: figment</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[figment]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Nov 2013 11:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And just like in the US, the sheeple will scream that someone (gvt ) has to DO something ...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And just like in the US, the sheeple will scream that someone (gvt ) has to DO something &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: JVR</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JVR]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Nov 2013 02:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Underlying the green energy boondoggle are some hysteria about the UK&#039;s energy supplies.  While peak oil has fallen a bit out of favour, it does not mean that oil provinces do not experience this phenomenon:  The UK peaked in 1999, and it has been downhill since

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/oilandgas/10255755/North-Sea-faces-record-fall-in-oil-and-gas-production.html


The Blair government tried to ameliorate this by investing in green energy, which is a boondoggle (it would be far better to simply import Gas and Oil), hence the outcome today.  Eventually this reduction in cheap easy oil and gas (fracking and shale oil/gas will eventually prove to be a hard and expensive resource), will have economic consequences, some which you describe above.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Underlying the green energy boondoggle are some hysteria about the UK&#8217;s energy supplies.  While peak oil has fallen a bit out of favour, it does not mean that oil provinces do not experience this phenomenon:  The UK peaked in 1999, and it has been downhill since</p>
<p><a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/oilandgas/10255755/North-Sea-faces-record-fall-in-oil-and-gas-production.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/oilandgas/10255755/North-Sea-faces-record-fall-in-oil-and-gas-production.html</a></p>
<p>The Blair government tried to ameliorate this by investing in green energy, which is a boondoggle (it would be far better to simply import Gas and Oil), hence the outcome today.  Eventually this reduction in cheap easy oil and gas (fracking and shale oil/gas will eventually prove to be a hard and expensive resource), will have economic consequences, some which you describe above.</p>
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		<title>By: A Z</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A Z]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Nov 2013 00:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is the same nonsense as the compact fluorescent bulbs.
Much of the U.S. electrical production goes to lighting.

&quot;EIA estimates that in 2011, about 461 billion kilowatt-hours (kWh) of electricity were used for lighting by the residential and commercial sectors. This was equal to about 17% of the total electricity consumed by both of these sectors and about 12% of total U.S. electricity consumption&quot;

http://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.cfm?id=99


It would ease the loads on power plants, if lighting was not so much of a load.

The thing is that consumers always want to cut their bills.  That is if they ever worked for a living or paid taxes.  So consumers will automatically without prodding or beating, use energy efficient lighting.  

While your typical consumer will not perform a formal cost benefit analysis , when LEDs get cheap enough they will buy them.   They just won&#039;t buy them when they are bleeding edge expensive.

Case in point, whenever I have a light that burns out I buy an LED and my spouse is all over me for the cost of a bulb. So yeah it hurts the pocket book.
But I will buy an LED because I do not have to worry about special disposal of the d_mn compact fluorescent

The liberals screwed up lighting, cars and now heating.

The liberals should let the market take care of it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the same nonsense as the compact fluorescent bulbs.<br />
Much of the U.S. electrical production goes to lighting.</p>
<p>&#8220;EIA estimates that in 2011, about 461 billion kilowatt-hours (kWh) of electricity were used for lighting by the residential and commercial sectors. This was equal to about 17% of the total electricity consumed by both of these sectors and about 12% of total U.S. electricity consumption&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.cfm?id=99" rel="nofollow">http://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.cfm?id=99</a></p>
<p>It would ease the loads on power plants, if lighting was not so much of a load.</p>
<p>The thing is that consumers always want to cut their bills.  That is if they ever worked for a living or paid taxes.  So consumers will automatically without prodding or beating, use energy efficient lighting.  </p>
<p>While your typical consumer will not perform a formal cost benefit analysis , when LEDs get cheap enough they will buy them.   They just won&#8217;t buy them when they are bleeding edge expensive.</p>
<p>Case in point, whenever I have a light that burns out I buy an LED and my spouse is all over me for the cost of a bulb. So yeah it hurts the pocket book.<br />
But I will buy an LED because I do not have to worry about special disposal of the d_mn compact fluorescent</p>
<p>The liberals screwed up lighting, cars and now heating.</p>
<p>The liberals should let the market take care of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Clare Spark</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Clare Spark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Nov 2013 00:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Brits have disavowed Darwin too. See http://clarespark.com/2011/04/14/darwin-and-the-climate-change-debate-the-greens-have-it/. &quot;Darwin and the climate change debate: The Greens have it.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Brits have disavowed Darwin too. See <a href="http://clarespark.com/2011/04/14/darwin-and-the-climate-change-debate-the-greens-have-it/" rel="nofollow">http://clarespark.com/2011/04/14/darwin-and-the-climate-change-debate-the-greens-have-it/</a>. &#8220;Darwin and the climate change debate: The Greens have it.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: herb benty</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[herb benty]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Nov 2013 22:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is nothing bad about Petroleum, it is a very efficient form of ENERGY that powers modern civilization.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is nothing bad about Petroleum, it is a very efficient form of ENERGY that powers modern civilization.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Cape Cod</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Elizabeth Cape Cod]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Nov 2013 20:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When the freezing and desperate take to the streets with torches to burn down the city there will be heat.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When the freezing and desperate take to the streets with torches to burn down the city there will be heat.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed FDNYRetiree</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ed FDNYRetiree]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Nov 2013 20:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is there &lt;strong&gt;anything&lt;/strong&gt; the UK libs have done in the past 10 years that has done anything but cause a decline in their standard of living and brought the country closer to utter ruin?


Perhaps I should ask the same question and substitute &quot;the U.S.&quot; for the UK...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there <strong>anything</strong> the UK libs have done in the past 10 years that has done anything but cause a decline in their standard of living and brought the country closer to utter ruin?</p>
<p>Perhaps I should ask the same question and substitute &#8220;the U.S.&#8221; for the UK&#8230;</p>
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