Guns Don’t Kill People, Obama Voters Kill People

Try and control these guns

Gun control works. That’s why Chicago, which came out for Obama, and has strict gun control laws, is trying to set some kind of gun violence record, while Salt Lake City and Fargo, where guns are legal, isn’t.

It seems as if guns don’t kill people. Obama voters kill people.

According to police data reported by the Sun Times, Chicago experienced a shooting every 3.57 hours in 2012.

The Sun Times reports that the number of murders in the city of Chicago for 2012 was 506, or more than one per day and nearly 10 per week.

The number of shootings however, was almost five times the number of homicides with police reporting 2,460 for the year.

There were 366 days in 2012 or 8,784 hours.  That means that Chicago experienced a shooting every 3.57 hours.

Gun control will do Chicago about as much good as trying to reduce the number of hours in the day. The problem isn’t guns, it’s people. Specifically the types of people who vote for Obama.

Gun violence isn’t a hardware problem. It’s a social problem. As the drug war has already shown us, trying to wipe out a product will not stop the social problem.

Liberals make this same exact argument when it comes to drugs, but take the opposite tack when it comes to guns. But that may be a clash between drug culture on the liberal side and gun culture on the conservative side.

But as Obama pivots from Newtown to Chicago, and from Adam Lanza, who is the atypical face of gun violence, to the Chicago gangs who are the typical face of gun violence, it might be time to start discussing gun violence as a social problem.

  • JacksonPearson

    Clearly, liberal Chicago still doesn't get it, and mayor Rahm Emanuel's more of a trip wire, than a help. He thinks gun laws are going to end the blood shed.

    Other gang infested cities go after the gangs, their members, identifying them, logging their mug shots in catalogs, on-going data bases, harassing them day and night…the guns and crime will gradually disappear.

    • tsalagi_1

      Rahm isn't really concerned about the violence, it gives him an excuse to be a tyrant. Gun control is mostly about who holds the power.

      • JacksonPearson

        Chicago is owned by the rats.

      • AdinaK

        Ahh…Rhambo, the potty mouthed, foul little rat, who happens to swing both ways.

        But never mind, he has some railing to do, and it includes beating up on the rest of the law abiding citizens, those who adhere to their Second Amendment rights, and have ZERO to do with Chicago's killing grounds.

        Rhambo and gang know full well that gun control does nothing, but leave innocent people without self defense. But if the goal is to control the entire population, then grabbing guns is the way to go.

        Nevertheless, there is starting to be push back and that is a good thing! A safety issue too –

        The left shouldn't be so confident about imposing gun control. Not at all.

        Adina kutnicki, Israel –

    • Gee

      Not liberals – leftists. There is a huge difference between the two

  • Chris

    Thats the most honest headline I've read in a long time.

  • Mary Sue

    Yup, the headline is exactly correct, even as leftist bigots and idiots try to pin it on Romney voters, as it were. Or Bush voters.

  • Ernie Kaputnik

    "Guns don't kill people, Obama voters kill people." And now he wants to give citizenship to another 20 million illegal immigrants. That's reason enough for law-abiding citizens to purchase as many guns and as much ammo as possible. Opening the flood gates to third-world savages is just one more nail in the USA's coffin.

  • slider 96

    Oh Daniel , you're really off the rails with your headline …." Obama Voters Kill People " and look at the brainless one's who mindlessly follow you down the rabbit hole .
    Well atleast that supports you paranoia , you've got 51 % of the electorate to worry about . 162 million killers out there man !
    What are you gonna do man !

    • Kate

      Oh slider go check the affiliations, leanings, adorations, etc of those of Jarred Laughner, Adam Lanza, Christopher Dorner the lauded cop killer, the shooter in Aurora. CO…..not ONE of them was a conservative, not ONE lauded FOX news channel and not ONE of them accepted any responsibility for themselves….EVER

      • Mary Sue

        and they all hate glenn beck and rush limbaugh!

      • Questions

        And mental illness had nothing to do with the problem? You're out of synch with reality, Kate. These killers did not kill out of any political motive, save for the blac, Christopher Dorner, whose blackness (NOT liberalism) was the trigger. And where do you assume that watching Fox News is some sort of inoculation against engaging in mass murder?

        Liberals are some of the nicest people I've ever met. They're naive about human nature, which is why I choose to be a conservative. But the idea that they're all murderers in disguise is ludicrous.

    • AnOrdinaryMan

      So do you think that any of the street punks in the movie "Gran Torino" voted for Romney? (Hint: not likely)

    • gerry

      No need to do anything,they will do it themselves and to themselves.

    • Daniel Greenfield

      162 million people voted for Obama?

      Perhaps you should check your numbers.

      • JacksonPearson

        Big numbers confuse him.

      • kafir4life

        slider96 is President Benghazi's point man at FPM. There's a bama-calculator built into his bama-phone. When President Benghazi was on the hard hitting news show "Late nite with david letterman", Stinks (bo) announced his math skills didn't go beyond the 6th grade, and he had no knowledge of any other subject beyond first year high school. So slider's math DOES work out.

  • Questions

    Gun violence isn't a hardware problem. It's an unassimilated Hispanic problem. A picture is worth a thousand words.

    • Mary Sue

      it's an unassimilated ANYTHING problem.

  • Rocco

    It's a feral b-word problem. Eradicate the feral b-words from urban and suburban areas. If they want to act like animals, put them in the woods.

  • Jeff Bargholz

    Obama voters kill people? That's true but not very specific.

    Most Obama voters were White leftists or White Democrats. Neither demographic is responsible for the gun mayhem in Chicago. They aren't responsible for America's high national rate of gun mayhem, either.

    I know it's hard for a responsible and moral Jewish man to do, but It might be time to start discussing gun violence as a predominately racial and ethnic social problem.

    • Rocco

      Mr. Barghollz, I am intrigued by the statement "I know it's hard for a responsible and moral Jewish man to do". Please elaborate. I'm not trying to be facetious or disrespectful. I seriously am curious as to what you mean by that statement.

      Thanking you in advance and very respectfully,


      • kafir4life

        I think what he meant was that it would be difficult for that person (a white leftist Jewish democrat) to apply race and ethninicity as being the "cause" of the problem.

      • Jeff Bargholz

        You're welcome, Rocco. No problem.

        I made that comment because of the Nazis and their attempted "final solution" to ethnic "problems." I figure that a frank discussion about the racial and ethnic origins of most American violence is something that would make most Jews feel very uncomfortable. Hell, it makes me feel uncomfortable, even though the disproportionate amount of violent crime committed by the Black and "Hispanic" demographics is very real, very noticeable and easily verifiable. (It doesn't help that my last name sounds Nazi like.)

        Whenever a realistic discussion is held about the prominent asocial tendencies of those demographics, people (especially Whites) get accused of racism, supremacism, Nazism and worse. Even reasonable and moral people can have a hard time with such discussions, while leftists and racists tend to be be anything but reasonable and moral. It's hard to be taken seriously if people think you're a racist, and anybody except Bill Cosby is sure to be branded as one just for noticing the criminal tendencies of Blacks and "Hispanics."

        I think most people assume that because different demographics produce different and measurable results in the things they do-both good and bad-that those differences mean the groups with better results consider themselves superior. Nobody wants to feel inferior and it causes resentment, whether the feelings are justified or not.

        However touchy a subject racial and ethnic violence has been, it needs to be discussed because no problem can be addressed by denying it exists. But damn, it sure is hard.

        That's just my opinion. I could be wrong. Are you the same Rocco I used to know back in the day?

  • Arlie

    There is something really fishy with the Sandy Hook stories. by Professor Emeritus U of MN Duluth James Fetzer.

    Valentine's Day the DEA special agent Jack Riley named Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzman of the Sinaloa Cartel Public Enemy Number 1. Guzman is worth $1Billion and there is a $5 million reward for him. Riley said that Guzman's ability to corrupt and enforce sanctions are more powerful than Capone ever dreamed of. Since police and detectives in Chicago obviously cant or wont do their job – why are they necessary? They are probably enriching themselves the Chicago way with pay-to-play Guzman. The most dangerous places in the world are "Gun Free Zones" might as well have a sign on your back – everything I have is yours even my life. 0bama's spread the wealth and decrease population at the same time.

    • Dave

      This is way too easy and therefore why it is overlooked. Obama struggled politically until he started getting funds indirectly from the Daly crew. Unions and the mob go hand in glove (sorry OJ for the pun). Obama does not even have to answer questions because no one is asking…

  • Billy Jack

    If a govt can make you 'not own a gun', that can make you do anything, including die when they decide you should.

  • WilliamJamesWard

    Once armies of thugs have a population to rape, pillage and murder they will do so and that
    will happen when there is no funding to pay police. The green light is when assurance of no
    guns in the hands of citizens is secured by leftist traitors in government and all other forms
    of subversives working toward a designer populace in the form of herd cattle………….William

  • Gee

    I have noticed that where there has been a mass shooting – guns where not allowed. Areas where guns are allowed have no mass shootings. In ALL urban centers the gun violence is highest where the guns are illegal. In every city that has had longterm Democratic control there is gun control, huge gun violence, high unemployment and failing schools.

    Does anybody else see a tread?

    "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms..disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed one." – Thomas Jefferson quoting Cesare Beccaria, Criminologist in 1764.

    "The constitutions of most of our States assert that all power is inherent in the people; that… it is their right and duty to be at all times armed."
    –Thomas Jefferson to John Cartwright, 1824.

  • figment

    People living in high crime areas with strict gun control laws fall under a sort of Stockholm syndrome.

    In Camden, NJ there are many places where cops won't even GO, they can't get a witness to come forth when there is a murder/shooting/assault/robbery. The populace sees the police force AS the enemy,rather then the criminal element they are cohabitating with.

    Now that Camden and several other bankrupt cities have slashed their police force, the criminals are emboldened to spread their malice further afield. Frightening times ahead.

  • PhillipGaley

    Production costs don't cause energy prices to skyrocket, . . . Obama voters do, . . . just like Obama said: "Under my administration, energy cost will necessarily, skyrocket."!

  • John

    The arm pitsof america, Chicago, Baltimore, Cleveland, Detroit, are left wing liberal towns run by Democrats and Barry's supporters. Too bad the mainstream media covers for Barry and his useful idiots.

  • MamaLiberty

    By what legitimate authority?
    Posted on February 17, 2013 by MamaLiberty
    The question not being asked by most of us is: By what legitimate authority? How does anyone legitimately gain authority to control the lives and choices of other people against their will?

    Did you ever ask a politician, a gun grabber, a public school teacher, a bureaucrat… “By what legitimate authority do you demand, order, enforce, do these things?”

    I have. Most, of course, cite the “constitution” and/or “the rule of law.” I then ask them how those things can confer LEGITIMATE authority. Where does legitimate authority over people’s lives and property originate?

    So far, NONE of them can answer that, and most become extremely angry when questioned at all. Yet I would think that is the most important question we can ask.

    And it’s the most important question we can ask ourselves. Do we own our lives, or have we given our sovereign and natural authority over ourselves to the rulers and politicians?

    Those who have freely consented to be controlled by the constitution and the layers of ruling class and bureaucracy it created do not need my permission or my blessing. They are free to do so. The problem is that they feel equally or even especially free to impose that on me, even though I have NOT consented to be so ruled. By their own words, they must have the “consent of the governed,” but not one of them is willing to entertain the fact that not consenting -simply opting out – is possible.

    Ask the question. Ask yourself first. Act accordingly.

    Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
    C. S. Lewis
    English essayist & juvenile novelist (1898 – 1963)