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	<title>Comments on: Hagel Proposed 60,000 Man/10 Year US Occupation of Jerusalem and West Bank</title>
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		<title>By: Trevor</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 10:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re Sovereignty. What i want is for you to explain what this is in regards to the WB and East Jerusalem. See i&#039;m one of those people who is undecided on whether Israel is an Apartheid state or not and i&#039;m pretty sure i can come to a conclusion based on your explanation. I would thank you in advance but i&#039;m guessing you can&#039;t or wont give an honest answer. 
 
Re &quot;Authentic&quot;. Declare your &quot;Authentic Historical Accounts&quot;? 
 
 &quot;You can&#039;t bring yourself to denounce Hitler and Haj Amin al-Husseini. Busted. I guess they were just misunderstood souls who knew what a problem those Zionists were&quot;. 
 
Your question has no relevance in the context of this &quot;conversation&quot;. See, if i was, for example, on here waxing lyrical about Yair and his terrorist gang of wannabe nazi collaborators then your question would at least be semi relevant...but i&#039;m not and i&#039;m equally not playing your silly Hasbara game. 
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re Sovereignty. What i want is for you to explain what this is in regards to the WB and East Jerusalem. See i&#039;m one of those people who is undecided on whether Israel is an Apartheid state or not and i&#039;m pretty sure i can come to a conclusion based on your explanation. I would thank you in advance but i&#039;m guessing you can&#039;t or wont give an honest answer. </p>
<p>Re &quot;Authentic&quot;. Declare your &quot;Authentic Historical Accounts&quot;? </p>
<p> &quot;You can&#039;t bring yourself to denounce Hitler and Haj Amin al-Husseini. Busted. I guess they were just misunderstood souls who knew what a problem those Zionists were&quot;. </p>
<p>Your question has no relevance in the context of this &quot;conversation&quot;. See, if i was, for example, on here waxing lyrical about Yair and his terrorist gang of wannabe nazi collaborators then your question would at least be semi relevant&#8230;but i&#039;m not and i&#039;m equally not playing your silly Hasbara game. </p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Mar 2013 10:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;I&#039;ll skip past the parts where you try and muddy the waters by bringing up mythical Sharia in the West, militant Islam so on and so forth.&quot; 
 
Yes. This surprises nobody. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;I&#039;ll skip past the parts where you try and muddy the waters by bringing up mythical Sharia in the West, militant Islam so on and so forth.&quot; </p>
<p>Yes. This surprises nobody. </p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Mar 2013 10:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yea, Zionist mythology doesn&#039;t count as &quot;authenticated&quot;  
 
I guess you don&#039;t know what authenticated means. Using references so that one can authenticate the claims made. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yea, Zionist mythology doesn&#039;t count as &quot;authenticated&quot;  </p>
<p>I guess you don&#039;t know what authenticated means. Using references so that one can authenticate the claims made. </p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Mar 2013 10:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;If you&#039;re going to reply, please leave out your irrational fears of Sharia etc...Mkay!?!&quot; 
 
Whoever told you that you were the moderator was playing a joke on you and you fell for it. It seems like the one with the irrational fear is you. You&#039;re afraid to discuss Islam (or any of your ideological predecessors). It&#039;s fundamental to understanding all of the politics in the Middle East and elsewhere you find its adherents. It&#039;s a totalitarian religion whether you like to admit that or not. 
 
Either you&#039;re afraid to criticize your allies, you&#039;re afraid of allah or you&#039;re simply afraid of losing the arguments more thoroughly. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;If you&#039;re going to reply, please leave out your irrational fears of Sharia etc&#8230;Mkay!?!&quot; </p>
<p>Whoever told you that you were the moderator was playing a joke on you and you fell for it. It seems like the one with the irrational fear is you. You&#039;re afraid to discuss Islam (or any of your ideological predecessors). It&#039;s fundamental to understanding all of the politics in the Middle East and elsewhere you find its adherents. It&#039;s a totalitarian religion whether you like to admit that or not. </p>
<p>Either you&#039;re afraid to criticize your allies, you&#039;re afraid of allah or you&#039;re simply afraid of losing the arguments more thoroughly. </p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Mar 2013 10:19:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;I mentioned S/RES/242; &quot;Emphasizing the inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by war ....&quot; because that is relevant to the occupation. However, there is much, much more i could mention but all i will say is that International law is binding on every nation...hence the name, International law.&quot; 
 
LOL! It is binding on none. Zero. You haven&#039;t a clue. International law is purely theoretical and NON-binding unless a treaty says otherwise and even then there is no international law to enforce the treaties. So therefore NO international law is ever binding in the end. It&#039;s up to the sovereigns and their own interests. 
 
What a more-on. Why don&#039;t you explain the questions I asked about the appellate process or enforcement of &quot;binding&quot; international law? 
 
You&#039;re a bluffer or a fool. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;I mentioned S/RES/242; &quot;Emphasizing the inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by war &#8230;.&quot; because that is relevant to the occupation. However, there is much, much more i could mention but all i will say is that International law is binding on every nation&#8230;hence the name, International law.&quot; </p>
<p>LOL! It is binding on none. Zero. You haven&#039;t a clue. International law is purely theoretical and NON-binding unless a treaty says otherwise and even then there is no international law to enforce the treaties. So therefore NO international law is ever binding in the end. It&#039;s up to the sovereigns and their own interests. </p>
<p>What a more-on. Why don&#039;t you explain the questions I asked about the appellate process or enforcement of &quot;binding&quot; international law? </p>
<p>You&#039;re a bluffer or a fool. </p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Mar 2013 10:16:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You can&#039;t bring yourself to denounce Hitler and Haj Amin al-Husseini. Busted. I guess they were just misunderstood souls who knew what a problem those Zionists were. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can&#039;t bring yourself to denounce Hitler and Haj Amin al-Husseini. Busted. I guess they were just misunderstood souls who knew what a problem those Zionists were. </p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Mar 2013 10:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;However, if you keep claiming Israel has &quot;Sovereignty&quot; [i note you offer no evidence of this]&quot; 
 
I didn&#039;t realize how poorly you understood law and governance. You don&#039;t even know what sovereignty is. 
 
To be &quot;illegal&quot; means to be breaking a law. To create and enforce laws, one needs sovereignty. Get it? 
 
 
sov&#183;er&#183;eign&#183;ty noun \-tē\\ˈs&#228;-v(ə-)rən-tē, -vərn-tē also ˈsə-\ 
1) obsolete : supreme excellence or an example of it 
2) a : supreme power especially over a body politic 
b : freedom from external control : autonomy 
 
I&#039;ve never actually heard anyone argue that Israel is not a sovereign nation. There is no competing sovereign for the territories you allude to. So the burden of proof is on you. If you don&#039;t understand that, then you don&#039;t understand sovereignty. 
 
&quot;The Romans, well as already stated the Romans never coined or invented the name Palestine&quot; 
 
I&#039;ve already articulated the explanation for your feigned misunderstanding. Or you could be that dim. 
 
&quot;Also, you still haven&#039;t explained why Egypt declared war.&quot; 
 
Nobody asked. I&#039;m not a mind-reader.  
  
&quot;All you&#039;ve done is produce a mythical gun and ran your mouth off with some nonsense....Why is that?&quot; 
 
Don&#039;t blame your confusion on me. 
 
&quot;If you&#039;re going to reply, please leave out your irrational fears of Sharia etc...Mkay!?!&quot; 
 
Islam is a religion of peace. Mkay? Everyone knows this, don&#039;t they young child? ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;However, if you keep claiming Israel has &quot;Sovereignty&quot; [i note you offer no evidence of this]&quot; </p>
<p>I didn&#039;t realize how poorly you understood law and governance. You don&#039;t even know what sovereignty is. </p>
<p>To be &quot;illegal&quot; means to be breaking a law. To create and enforce laws, one needs sovereignty. Get it? </p>
<p>sov&middot;er&middot;eign&middot;ty noun \-tē\\ˈs&auml;-v(ə-)rən-tē, -vərn-tē also ˈsə-\<br />
1) obsolete : supreme excellence or an example of it<br />
2) a : supreme power especially over a body politic<br />
b : freedom from external control : autonomy </p>
<p>I&#039;ve never actually heard anyone argue that Israel is not a sovereign nation. There is no competing sovereign for the territories you allude to. So the burden of proof is on you. If you don&#039;t understand that, then you don&#039;t understand sovereignty. </p>
<p>&quot;The Romans, well as already stated the Romans never coined or invented the name Palestine&quot; </p>
<p>I&#039;ve already articulated the explanation for your feigned misunderstanding. Or you could be that dim. </p>
<p>&quot;Also, you still haven&#039;t explained why Egypt declared war.&quot; </p>
<p>Nobody asked. I&#039;m not a mind-reader.  </p>
<p>&quot;All you&#039;ve done is produce a mythical gun and ran your mouth off with some nonsense&#8230;.Why is that?&quot; </p>
<p>Don&#039;t blame your confusion on me. </p>
<p>&quot;If you&#039;re going to reply, please leave out your irrational fears of Sharia etc&#8230;Mkay!?!&quot; </p>
<p>Islam is a religion of peace. Mkay? Everyone knows this, don&#039;t they young child? </p>
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		<title>By: Trevor</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Trevor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Mar 2013 08:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You sure do type a lot without actually having anything to say, and to be frank, you bore me to tears. 
 
&quot;All of my information comes from authenticated historical accounts&quot;. 
 
Yea, Zionist mythology doesn&#039;t count as &quot;authenticated&quot; 
 
I&#039;ll skip past the parts where you try and muddy the waters by bringing up mythical Sharia in the West, militant Islam so on and so forth. 
 
I mentioned S/RES/242; &quot;Emphasizing the inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by war ....&quot; because that is relevant to the occupation. However, there is much, much more i could mention but all i will say is that International law is binding on every nation...hence the name, International law. 
 
Putting that aside, you obviously don&#039;t understand what gives Israel its legitimacy. If you did, you&#039;d understand why the settlements are illegal. However, if you keep claiming Israel has &quot;Sovereignty&quot; [i note you offer no evidence of this] over the West Bank and East Jerusalem then you must also agree with the people who say that &quot;Israel is an apartheid state&quot; 
 
The Romans, well as already stated the Romans never coined or invented the name Palestine...So as we can see you&#039;ve lied out your teeth. No doubt you lied for a &quot;noble cause&quot; ie. you think in your closed  right wing, Islamophobic, bigoted mind that you&#039;re some kinda white knight coming to the aid of fellow hasbarists who have not yet reached your level...But it doesn&#039;t make you any less of a liar. 
 
Also, you still haven&#039;t explained why Egypt declared war. All you&#039;ve done is produce a mythical gun and ran your mouth off with some nonsense....Why is that?  
 
If you&#039;re going to reply, please leave out your irrational fears of Sharia etc...Mkay!?! 
 
 
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You sure do type a lot without actually having anything to say, and to be frank, you bore me to tears. </p>
<p>&quot;All of my information comes from authenticated historical accounts&quot;. </p>
<p>Yea, Zionist mythology doesn&#039;t count as &quot;authenticated&quot; </p>
<p>I&#039;ll skip past the parts where you try and muddy the waters by bringing up mythical Sharia in the West, militant Islam so on and so forth. </p>
<p>I mentioned S/RES/242; &quot;Emphasizing the inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by war &#8230;.&quot; because that is relevant to the occupation. However, there is much, much more i could mention but all i will say is that International law is binding on every nation&#8230;hence the name, International law. </p>
<p>Putting that aside, you obviously don&#039;t understand what gives Israel its legitimacy. If you did, you&#039;d understand why the settlements are illegal. However, if you keep claiming Israel has &quot;Sovereignty&quot; [i note you offer no evidence of this] over the West Bank and East Jerusalem then you must also agree with the people who say that &quot;Israel is an apartheid state&quot; </p>
<p>The Romans, well as already stated the Romans never coined or invented the name Palestine&#8230;So as we can see you&#039;ve lied out your teeth. No doubt you lied for a &quot;noble cause&quot; ie. you think in your closed  right wing, Islamophobic, bigoted mind that you&#039;re some kinda white knight coming to the aid of fellow hasbarists who have not yet reached your level&#8230;But it doesn&#039;t make you any less of a liar. </p>
<p>Also, you still haven&#039;t explained why Egypt declared war. All you&#039;ve done is produce a mythical gun and ran your mouth off with some nonsense&#8230;.Why is that?  </p>
<p>If you&#039;re going to reply, please leave out your irrational fears of Sharia etc&#8230;Mkay!?! </p>
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		<title>By: A.H.Crystall</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2013 19:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nice lies, very nice lies, tomorrow you will report, that the EU plans an invasion and prepares thousands of warships to destroy every church in the USA ...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice lies, very nice lies, tomorrow you will report, that the EU plans an invasion and prepares thousands of warships to destroy every church in the USA &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2013 06:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Erm you seem to be obsessed by Muslims and Islam. No doubt you have an irrational fear of them too. &quot;  
  
Yes, it&#039;s called &quot;Islam-o-phobia.&quot; I have it alright.  
  
&quot;The Romans never coined the name Palestine and besides that the Romans allegedly gave the name &quot;Palestina&quot; to the area&quot;  
  
They coined the name Syria Pal&#230;stina that we now refer to in the English language as Palestine. We&#039;re speaking English here.  
  
&quot;..not Palestine&quot;  
  
That&#039;s an important distinction to you?  
  
&quot;and the name and its derivatives were in use centuries before 135 CE...So no, the Romans never coined the name.&quot;  
  
They coined the name that the Islamic supremacists claim refers to early Muslims, which it does not. Can you understand this point? Any more red herrings in the form of trivial distinctions about etymology? The Romans renamed Judea and the region to refer to the enemies of the Jews. Islamic supremacists claim these were Muslims. They bundle these lies with many other lies. Those are the salient points in this discussion.  
 
&quot;That&#039;s grand but at no time have i mentioned any &quot;Palestinian political movement&quot;.  
  
You&#039;re arguing with all of their lies and deceptions, so you are a part of that movement.   
 
&quot;I&#039;m simply pointing out that only the ignorant or stupid would claim that it was the Romans who coined the name &quot;Palestine&quot;.&quot;  
  
The claim is accurate. The Romans dispersed the Jews and renamed the territory &quot;Provincia Syria Palaestina.&#8221; This had nothing to do with Islamic supremacist Arabs who claim they are the original ancestors of Palestine, regardless of what ethnic language they use. The territory was never known by that name before, and no other territory had been known by that name.  
 
&quot;The fact is, you can&#039;t handle that so you try and muddy up the waters and then divert the convo into something other than the points that show up your Israeli PR.&quot;  
  
All of my information comes from authenticated historical accounts. Some are Israeli, most are not. If writing one&#039;s analysis is also PR, then I guess that&#039;s OK.  
  
As far as me trying to &quot;muddy the waters,&quot; I&#039;m happy to allow any reader to arrive at their own conclusions about any conversations here. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Erm you seem to be obsessed by Muslims and Islam. No doubt you have an irrational fear of them too. &quot;  </p>
<p>Yes, it&#039;s called &quot;Islam-o-phobia.&quot; I have it alright.  </p>
<p>&quot;The Romans never coined the name Palestine and besides that the Romans allegedly gave the name &quot;Palestina&quot; to the area&quot;  </p>
<p>They coined the name Syria Pal&aelig;stina that we now refer to in the English language as Palestine. We&#039;re speaking English here.  </p>
<p>&quot;..not Palestine&quot;  </p>
<p>That&#039;s an important distinction to you?  </p>
<p>&quot;and the name and its derivatives were in use centuries before 135 CE&#8230;So no, the Romans never coined the name.&quot;  </p>
<p>They coined the name that the Islamic supremacists claim refers to early Muslims, which it does not. Can you understand this point? Any more red herrings in the form of trivial distinctions about etymology? The Romans renamed Judea and the region to refer to the enemies of the Jews. Islamic supremacists claim these were Muslims. They bundle these lies with many other lies. Those are the salient points in this discussion.  </p>
<p>&quot;That&#039;s grand but at no time have i mentioned any &quot;Palestinian political movement&quot;.  </p>
<p>You&#039;re arguing with all of their lies and deceptions, so you are a part of that movement.   </p>
<p>&quot;I&#039;m simply pointing out that only the ignorant or stupid would claim that it was the Romans who coined the name &quot;Palestine&quot;.&quot;  </p>
<p>The claim is accurate. The Romans dispersed the Jews and renamed the territory &quot;Provincia Syria Palaestina.&rdquo; This had nothing to do with Islamic supremacist Arabs who claim they are the original ancestors of Palestine, regardless of what ethnic language they use. The territory was never known by that name before, and no other territory had been known by that name.  </p>
<p>&quot;The fact is, you can&#039;t handle that so you try and muddy up the waters and then divert the convo into something other than the points that show up your Israeli PR.&quot;  </p>
<p>All of my information comes from authenticated historical accounts. Some are Israeli, most are not. If writing one&#039;s analysis is also PR, then I guess that&#039;s OK.  </p>
<p>As far as me trying to &quot;muddy the waters,&quot; I&#039;m happy to allow any reader to arrive at their own conclusions about any conversations here. </p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2013 05:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;that&#039;s the final attempt by a loser to conceal their ignorance.&quot; 
 
Deny it. You&#039;re promoting Nazi Muslim ideology in every comment you make. Deny it. Where are you a citizen? 
 
Denounce Hitler and Haj Amin al-Husseini. If you don&#039;t even know your own ideological ancestors while I do, that&#039;s not evidence that I&#039;m the ignorant one in the conversation. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;that&#039;s the final attempt by a loser to conceal their ignorance.&quot; </p>
<p>Deny it. You&#039;re promoting Nazi Muslim ideology in every comment you make. Deny it. Where are you a citizen? </p>
<p>Denounce Hitler and Haj Amin al-Husseini. If you don&#039;t even know your own ideological ancestors while I do, that&#039;s not evidence that I&#039;m the ignorant one in the conversation. </p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2013 05:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;getting frustrated&quot; 
 
Sure. But how did you drift from the point that there is no universal law that rules the globe? 
 
Therefore you STILL lose. You get still get stuffed if you want and you&#039;re still a blowhard. I don&#039;t need to be frustrated to make those notes. You&#039;re also a neo-Nazi Muslim ally, if not a Muslim yourself. You want to attack Western law and advance sharia cloaked in bogus &quot;international law&quot; and the subjective opinions of the OIC-ruled UN. 
 
If won&#039;t work here. 
 
I repeat: 
 
&quot;Erm, the settlements are illegal under law....No high horse needed.&quot;  
 
Not under any laws that matter outside of politics. There is no universal law that rules the globe psycho.  
 
Get stuffed blowhard. Try to address your arguments if you can. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;getting frustrated&quot; </p>
<p>Sure. But how did you drift from the point that there is no universal law that rules the globe? </p>
<p>Therefore you STILL lose. You get still get stuffed if you want and you&#039;re still a blowhard. I don&#039;t need to be frustrated to make those notes. You&#039;re also a neo-Nazi Muslim ally, if not a Muslim yourself. You want to attack Western law and advance sharia cloaked in bogus &quot;international law&quot; and the subjective opinions of the OIC-ruled UN. </p>
<p>If won&#039;t work here. </p>
<p>I repeat: </p>
<p>&quot;Erm, the settlements are illegal under law&#8230;.No high horse needed.&quot;  </p>
<p>Not under any laws that matter outside of politics. There is no universal law that rules the globe psycho.  </p>
<p>Get stuffed blowhard. Try to address your arguments if you can. </p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2013 05:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tell you what. You explain why it was legitimate &quot;self -defense after their shipping was blocked and the UN peacekeeping troops were removed, violating the peace treating arrived at to end the Suez Conflict.&quot;  
 
Casus belli. I described the casus belli, which is the justification for war. 
 
If someone puts a gun in your face, and you take the time to slip your hand in your pocket with your own gun, and you shoot first, it&#039;s still self defense if you can show reasonable fear the gun would have been used against you. It&#039;s not hard to understand. 
 
The only reason anyone even tries to say that Israel started the war is because their first blow was so decisive. People who look only superficially smell another &quot;Jewish conspiracy.&quot; Then it just became part of folklore. That&#039;s what you&#039;re in to: Folklore and repeating lies of Jew-haters. 
 
&quot;Again, i&#039;m not &quot;attacking Israel as a legitimate sovereign&quot; this is just a poor attempt by you to conceal your ignorance.&quot; 
 
Saying that settlements in the West Bank or Jerusalem are &quot;illegal&quot; is attacking Israeli sovereignty. I&#039;m revealing your ignorance when you quote &quot;international law&quot; and talk about your theories behind your emotionally-derived opinions. 
 
Are you supposed to be a citizen of the world or are you afraid to state your citizenship status? 
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tell you what. You explain why it was legitimate &quot;self -defense after their shipping was blocked and the UN peacekeeping troops were removed, violating the peace treating arrived at to end the Suez Conflict.&quot;  </p>
<p>Casus belli. I described the casus belli, which is the justification for war. </p>
<p>If someone puts a gun in your face, and you take the time to slip your hand in your pocket with your own gun, and you shoot first, it&#039;s still self defense if you can show reasonable fear the gun would have been used against you. It&#039;s not hard to understand. </p>
<p>The only reason anyone even tries to say that Israel started the war is because their first blow was so decisive. People who look only superficially smell another &quot;Jewish conspiracy.&quot; Then it just became part of folklore. That&#039;s what you&#039;re in to: Folklore and repeating lies of Jew-haters. </p>
<p>&quot;Again, i&#039;m not &quot;attacking Israel as a legitimate sovereign&quot; this is just a poor attempt by you to conceal your ignorance.&quot; </p>
<p>Saying that settlements in the West Bank or Jerusalem are &quot;illegal&quot; is attacking Israeli sovereignty. I&#039;m revealing your ignorance when you quote &quot;international law&quot; and talk about your theories behind your emotionally-derived opinions. </p>
<p>Are you supposed to be a citizen of the world or are you afraid to state your citizenship status? </p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2013 05:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The law is the law.&quot; 
 
Nope. Not without context. Only then can we test your statement. Some &quot;laws&quot; are not enforceable and no laws can be universally applied throughout the globe. None. Get it now? 
 
&quot;You might not agree with it but still&quot; 
 
I&#039;m not merely disagreeing. I&#039;m stating the facts while you&#039;re stating your wishes that certain UN statements are accepted as universal law. 
 
&quot;...and no, politicians don&#039;t impress me since they seem impotent when it comes to implementing international law.&quot; 
 
They impress you enough so that you defer to the UN. Who do you think renders those opinions? They&#039;re all politicians under the control of other politicians. What are the 3 branches of government in the UN? What is the appellate process in the UN? 
 
&quot;See you were trying to be a &quot;smart azz&quot; with your question and no doubt you are also one of those Hasbarists who assumed that the UN automatically took over the mandate.&quot; 
  
Wrong again. Let&#039;s see if you can provide a straight answer. 
 
&quot;Now if you really want an answer then why don&#039;t you go and read the actual mandate where you will find your answer.....Capiche!?!&quot; 
 
You&#039;re the one that presented this as a salient question. If you want to withdraw your point I&#039;m fine with that. 
 
&quot;Erm, no. I&#039;m not trying to paint Israel as illigitimate,although those who want to claim the mandate do ;). I&#039;m saying that the illegal settlements are illigitimate. Of course you can&#039;t give an answer to support the legality of said settlements therefore you try and pull the old Hasbara chestnut of &quot;omg why are saying Israel is illigitimate&quot; 
  
 
I already told you. Israel is the sole legitimate sovereign. What else does it need to do to be &quot;legal?&quot; The fact that they held out hope to exchange the land for &quot;peace&quot; with totalitarians was a political mistake. That doesn&#039;t undo their sovereignty. You can&#039;t say that they&#039;re illegal if there&#039;s no other contender for sovereignty. Yet that doesn&#039;t stop you. The only way of getting around this is to claim they&#039;re &quot;illegal&quot; because of UN suggestions. We can accurately describe this accurately as a campaign to delegitimize Israel regardless of your own phraseology. Your theory is otherwise incomplete, If the settlements are illegal, who is the victim? The UN? The complainant is the OIC using the UN politically for religious objectives. 
 
 
&quot;Erm, again, no. I already knew the facts and at no time did i mention Islam.&quot; 
 
Exactly. Proof you don&#039;t know the facts. 
 
 
&quot;Again, it was relevant to a point made by JP.&quot; 
 
Fine. You win that point against JP. You&#039;re so awesome, but it&#039;s not worth my time chasing down every red herring you try to come up with. 
 
&quot;No, silly comments that try to muddy the waters [an old Hasbara trick] are in the wrong place.&quot; 
 
It&#039;s silly to worry about Islamic supremacism in your world. Noted. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;The law is the law.&quot; </p>
<p>Nope. Not without context. Only then can we test your statement. Some &quot;laws&quot; are not enforceable and no laws can be universally applied throughout the globe. None. Get it now? </p>
<p>&quot;You might not agree with it but still&quot; </p>
<p>I&#039;m not merely disagreeing. I&#039;m stating the facts while you&#039;re stating your wishes that certain UN statements are accepted as universal law. </p>
<p>&quot;&#8230;and no, politicians don&#039;t impress me since they seem impotent when it comes to implementing international law.&quot; </p>
<p>They impress you enough so that you defer to the UN. Who do you think renders those opinions? They&#039;re all politicians under the control of other politicians. What are the 3 branches of government in the UN? What is the appellate process in the UN? </p>
<p>&quot;See you were trying to be a &quot;smart azz&quot; with your question and no doubt you are also one of those Hasbarists who assumed that the UN automatically took over the mandate.&quot; </p>
<p>Wrong again. Let&#039;s see if you can provide a straight answer. </p>
<p>&quot;Now if you really want an answer then why don&#039;t you go and read the actual mandate where you will find your answer&#8230;..Capiche!?!&quot; </p>
<p>You&#039;re the one that presented this as a salient question. If you want to withdraw your point I&#039;m fine with that. </p>
<p>&quot;Erm, no. I&#039;m not trying to paint Israel as illigitimate,although those who want to claim the mandate do ;). I&#039;m saying that the illegal settlements are illigitimate. Of course you can&#039;t give an answer to support the legality of said settlements therefore you try and pull the old Hasbara chestnut of &quot;omg why are saying Israel is illigitimate&quot; </p>
<p>I already told you. Israel is the sole legitimate sovereign. What else does it need to do to be &quot;legal?&quot; The fact that they held out hope to exchange the land for &quot;peace&quot; with totalitarians was a political mistake. That doesn&#039;t undo their sovereignty. You can&#039;t say that they&#039;re illegal if there&#039;s no other contender for sovereignty. Yet that doesn&#039;t stop you. The only way of getting around this is to claim they&#039;re &quot;illegal&quot; because of UN suggestions. We can accurately describe this accurately as a campaign to delegitimize Israel regardless of your own phraseology. Your theory is otherwise incomplete, If the settlements are illegal, who is the victim? The UN? The complainant is the OIC using the UN politically for religious objectives. </p>
<p>&quot;Erm, again, no. I already knew the facts and at no time did i mention Islam.&quot; </p>
<p>Exactly. Proof you don&#039;t know the facts. </p>
<p>&quot;Again, it was relevant to a point made by JP.&quot; </p>
<p>Fine. You win that point against JP. You&#039;re so awesome, but it&#039;s not worth my time chasing down every red herring you try to come up with. </p>
<p>&quot;No, silly comments that try to muddy the waters [an old Hasbara trick] are in the wrong place.&quot; </p>
<p>It&#039;s silly to worry about Islamic supremacism in your world. Noted. </p>
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		<title>By: Trevor</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Trevor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2013 18:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Erm you seem to be obsessed by Muslims and Islam. No doubt you have an irrational fear of them too. 
 
The Romans never coined the name Palestine and besides that the Romans allegedly gave the name &quot;Palestina&quot; to the area not Palestine and the name and its derivatives were in use centuries before 135 CE...So no, the Romans never coined the name. Glad to clear that up for you. 
 
&quot;But really in the context of these discussions, and as has been explained to you and many other people at many other times, the point is that the &quot;Palestinian&quot; political movement today conflates all historical references to &quot;Palestine&quot; as referring to their Arab Islamic ancestors.&quot; 
 
That&#039;s grand but at no time have i mentioned any &quot;Palestinian political movement&quot;. I&#039;m simply pointing out that only the ignorant or stupid would claim that it was the Romans who coined the name &quot;Palestine&quot;.  
 
The fact is, you can&#039;t handle that so you try and muddy up the waters and then divert the convo into something other than the points that show up your Israeli PR. 
 
To paraphrase the famous &#039;Buggles&#039; song, 
 
I&#039;nternet killed Israeli PR&#039; 
 
 
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erm you seem to be obsessed by Muslims and Islam. No doubt you have an irrational fear of them too. </p>
<p>The Romans never coined the name Palestine and besides that the Romans allegedly gave the name &quot;Palestina&quot; to the area not Palestine and the name and its derivatives were in use centuries before 135 CE&#8230;So no, the Romans never coined the name. Glad to clear that up for you. </p>
<p>&quot;But really in the context of these discussions, and as has been explained to you and many other people at many other times, the point is that the &quot;Palestinian&quot; political movement today conflates all historical references to &quot;Palestine&quot; as referring to their Arab Islamic ancestors.&quot; </p>
<p>That&#039;s grand but at no time have i mentioned any &quot;Palestinian political movement&quot;. I&#039;m simply pointing out that only the ignorant or stupid would claim that it was the Romans who coined the name &quot;Palestine&quot;.  </p>
<p>The fact is, you can&#039;t handle that so you try and muddy up the waters and then divert the convo into something other than the points that show up your Israeli PR. </p>
<p>To paraphrase the famous &#039;Buggles&#039; song, </p>
<p>I&#039;nternet killed Israeli PR&#039; </p>
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		<title>By: Trevor</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Trevor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2013 17:50:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Nazi Muslim alert.&quot; 
 
lol that&#039;s the final attempt by a loser to conceal their ignorance. 
 
Thank you! ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Nazi Muslim alert.&quot; </p>
<p>lol that&#039;s the final attempt by a loser to conceal their ignorance. </p>
<p>Thank you! </p>
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		<title>By: Trevor</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Trevor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2013 17:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[lol the poor little Hasbarist is getting frustrated. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol the poor little Hasbarist is getting frustrated. </p>
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		<title>By: Trevor</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Trevor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2013 17:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;and I replied: In legitimate self-defense after their shipping was blocked and the UN peacekeeping troops were removed, violating the peace treating arrived at to end the Suez Conflict. Not to mention threats broadcast in Hebrew threatening eminent annihilation. 
 
Tell you what. You explain why it was legitimate &quot;self -defense after their shipping was blocked and the UN peacekeeping troops were removed, violating the peace treating arrived at to end the Suez Conflict.&quot; and then i&#039;ll reply. Of course you&#039;re going to have to contradict yourself to do so....aren&#039;t you!?! 
 
&quot;You actually have no legitimate answers. You only have questions and statements you hope will silence people. You have no coherent way to attack Israel as a legitimate sovereign because you only have fragmented, incomplete arguments that fall apart when the entire set of facts is examined coherently. Muslims and Leftists HATE that. So do neo-Nazis.&quot; 
 
Again, i&#039;m not &quot;attacking Israel as a legitimate sovereign&quot; this is just a poor attempt by you to conceal your ignorance. 
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;and I replied: In legitimate self-defense after their shipping was blocked and the UN peacekeeping troops were removed, violating the peace treating arrived at to end the Suez Conflict. Not to mention threats broadcast in Hebrew threatening eminent annihilation. </p>
<p>Tell you what. You explain why it was legitimate &quot;self -defense after their shipping was blocked and the UN peacekeeping troops were removed, violating the peace treating arrived at to end the Suez Conflict.&quot; and then i&#039;ll reply. Of course you&#039;re going to have to contradict yourself to do so&#8230;.aren&#039;t you!?! </p>
<p>&quot;You actually have no legitimate answers. You only have questions and statements you hope will silence people. You have no coherent way to attack Israel as a legitimate sovereign because you only have fragmented, incomplete arguments that fall apart when the entire set of facts is examined coherently. Muslims and Leftists HATE that. So do neo-Nazis.&quot; </p>
<p>Again, i&#039;m not &quot;attacking Israel as a legitimate sovereign&quot; this is just a poor attempt by you to conceal your ignorance. </p>
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		<title>By: Trevor</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Trevor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2013 17:43:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The UN is a political institution. You&#039;re easily impressed by politicians&quot; 
 
The law is the law. You might not agree with it but still...and no, politicians don&#039;t impress me since they seem impotent when it comes to implementing international law. 
 
&quot;You failed to answer my question&quot;. 
 
I can already tell that you&#039;re an odious individual. See you were trying to be a &quot;smart azz&quot; with your question and no doubt you are also one of those Hasbarists who assumed that the UN automatically took over the mandate. Now if you really want an answer then why don&#039;t you go and read the actual mandate where you will find your answer.....Capiche!?! 
 
&quot;What is the topic at hand? You seem to be trying to paint Israel is illegitimate and its actions as that of a usurper. Of course it&#039;s relevant, though inconvenient to your argument.&quot; 
 
Erm, no. I&#039;m not trying to paint Israel as illigitimate,although those who want to claim the mandate do ;). I&#039;m saying that the illegal settlements are illigitimate. Of course you can&#039;t give an answer to support the legality of said settlements therefore you try and pull the old Hasbara chestnut of &quot;omg why are saying Israel is illigitimate&quot;  
 
&quot;You seem to be waking up to some of the facts. Keep drinking that coffee&quot;. 
 
Erm, again, no. I already knew the facts and at no time did i mention Islam. 
 
&quot;The question is why do you think it&#039;s significant? You must think it&#039;s salient regardless of what anyone else says and I&#039;m asking you.&quot; 
 
Again, it was relevant to a point made by JP. So why don&#039;t go read his comment again and then take into account the the mandate for Palestine was a &#039;class A mandate&#039; then work it out for yourself...or maybe you can&#039;t because you&#039;re not as clever as you think. 
 
&quot;Only when relevant. If those topics confuse you, you&#039;re in the wrong place.&quot; 
 
No, silly comments that try to muddy the waters [an old Hasbara trick] are in the wrong place. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;The UN is a political institution. You&#039;re easily impressed by politicians&quot; </p>
<p>The law is the law. You might not agree with it but still&#8230;and no, politicians don&#039;t impress me since they seem impotent when it comes to implementing international law. </p>
<p>&quot;You failed to answer my question&quot;. </p>
<p>I can already tell that you&#039;re an odious individual. See you were trying to be a &quot;smart azz&quot; with your question and no doubt you are also one of those Hasbarists who assumed that the UN automatically took over the mandate. Now if you really want an answer then why don&#039;t you go and read the actual mandate where you will find your answer&#8230;..Capiche!?! </p>
<p>&quot;What is the topic at hand? You seem to be trying to paint Israel is illegitimate and its actions as that of a usurper. Of course it&#039;s relevant, though inconvenient to your argument.&quot; </p>
<p>Erm, no. I&#039;m not trying to paint Israel as illigitimate,although those who want to claim the mandate do ;). I&#039;m saying that the illegal settlements are illigitimate. Of course you can&#039;t give an answer to support the legality of said settlements therefore you try and pull the old Hasbara chestnut of &quot;omg why are saying Israel is illigitimate&quot;  </p>
<p>&quot;You seem to be waking up to some of the facts. Keep drinking that coffee&quot;. </p>
<p>Erm, again, no. I already knew the facts and at no time did i mention Islam. </p>
<p>&quot;The question is why do you think it&#039;s significant? You must think it&#039;s salient regardless of what anyone else says and I&#039;m asking you.&quot; </p>
<p>Again, it was relevant to a point made by JP. So why don&#039;t go read his comment again and then take into account the the mandate for Palestine was a &#039;class A mandate&#039; then work it out for yourself&#8230;or maybe you can&#039;t because you&#039;re not as clever as you think. </p>
<p>&quot;Only when relevant. If those topics confuse you, you&#039;re in the wrong place.&quot; </p>
<p>No, silly comments that try to muddy the waters [an old Hasbara trick] are in the wrong place. </p>
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		<title>By: Jorge Reyes</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jorge Reyes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2013 01:50:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Obama administration is really out of their minds. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Obama administration is really out of their minds. </p>
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