How Many Israelis Must Die for Peace?

Daniel Greenfield, a Shillman Journalism Fellow at the Freedom Center, is a New York writer focusing on radical Islam. He is completing a book on the international challenges America faces in the 21st century.


“War is peace,” entered our cultural vocabulary some sixty-four years ago. Around the same time that Orwell’s masterpiece was being printed up, an armistice was being negotiated between Israel and the Arab invading armies. That armistice began the long peaceful war or the warring peace.

The entire charade did not properly enter the realm of the Orwellian until the peace process began. The peace process between Israel and the terrorist militias funded by the countries of those invading armies has gone on for longer than most actual wars. It has also taken more lives than most actual wars.

War has an endpoint. Peace does not. A peace in which you are constantly at war can go on forever because while the enthusiasts of war eventually exhaust their patriotism, the enthusiasts of peace never give up on their peacemaking.

Warmongers may stop after a few thousand dead, but Peacemongers will pirouette over a million corpses.

Two decades after the peace process has failed in every way imaginable. Two decades after cemeteries on both sides are full of the casualties of peace. Two decades which have created two abortive Palestinian states at war with one another and with Israel.

Two decades later, it’s still time for peace.

Peace time means that it’s time to ring up some more Israeli concessions in the hopes of getting the terrorists back to the negotiating table for another photo op in the glorious album of peacemakers. And if the photos are properly posed, perhaps there will even be another Nobel Peace Prize in it for all the participants.

Every so often I am asked about a solution to the Israeli-Palestinian-Arab-Muslim conflict and the interrogators are baffled when I tell them that there is no solution. As society has become more progressive, it has become progressively more difficult to explain even to intelligent people that the world simply does not work that way.

For two Cold War generations it was nearly impossible to communicate that there really would be no peace with the Soviet Union other than the cold kind maintained by a mutual balance of power. Their children and grand-children appear equally unequipped to understand that most serious wars end with either one side definitively losing and fundamentally changing or both sides maintaining a cold peace that will last only as long as neither side believes that it can squash the other with a surprise attack.

Israel did have peace until it began peace negotiations. It wasn’t a perfect peace, but aside from the minor problems of the Intifada, a comparative pinprick set against the violence that began after that infamous Rose Garden handshake, it was a good time whose like was then not seen again until Israel stopped playing peace process with the terrorists and learned to keep them away instead.

But the relative absence of violence, according to the amateur peacemakers, isn’t peace. A wartime peace isn’t what they want. What they want is a peacetime war. Let there be handshakes and suicide bombings. Let there be bloody bodies scraped off the sidewalk, but let there also be children’s choirs singing about peace. Let a thousand tombstones rise, so long as everyone can believe that peace is at hand.

This vulgar worship of peace as a religion, a creed that restores the faith of faithless men and women in humanity is a combination of empty sentimentality and calculated ignorance.

We must have peace in our time, the peacemakers say. And Israel must provide it. More territorial concessions must be put on the table. More goodwill must be shown so that the peacemakers can have their faith in the goodness of every man, woman, child and suicide bomber restored once again.

Who will Israel make peace with? President Abbas of the Palestinian Authority, who hasn’t run for office since Hamas won the elections, doesn’t want to negotiate. Hamas only wants to negotiate a short-term pause in its campaign to destroy Israel. When he isn’t warring with Hamas, Abbas is declaring that he shares the same view on terrorism as Hamas.

But peacemakers only like the big picture. And the big picture is that there must be an answer. Tens of thousands demanded it in London before the war and Chamberlain delivered it to them. Peace arrived in our time, shortly before the Nazi bombers. Thousands more demanded it of every American president who faced a Communist thug across a negotiating table.

But then the Soviet Union collapsed because a persnickety cowboy wouldn’t give up a missile defense program that every Harvard graduate knew could never work. And now, as another Harvard graduate proudly tries to take credit for Israel’s Iron Dome, they still know it can’t work.

Reagan didn’t end the Cold War with treaties; he ended it by doggedly pursuing superior firepower. And that is why in the name of peace, the Harvard grad looking over Iron Dome on his visit to Israel, has shown Russia his peaceful flexibility by abandoning the final stage of missile defense.

Every Harvard grad knows that missile defense doesn’t bring peace. But what could anyone expect from Reagan? The poor dummy went to Eureka College. How could he know that defeating the USSR wouldn’t work?

Obama wants the same thing from Israel that he’s trying to get by selling out Poland on missile defense. Peace. While the only times Israel had any measure of peace is in the aftermath of a war, Harvard grads and the people who listen to them know that peace only comes about at the tail end of a long string of concessions and appeasement.

Peacemakers don’t really take into account how to make peace with killers. Most countries lock up violent murderers when they kill a dozen people for fun. But when they kill a dozen people in order to liberate other killers or lay claim to a piece of land, then they are worth negotiating with. And the only outcome of the negotiations is establishing murder as a negotiating tactic.

Peace leads to war because peacemaking rewards the warmakers. It rewards the obstinate killers who refuse to stop killing. And the more it rewards them, the more they kill.

So here we are with Obama t-shirts on sale to liberal American Jewish tourists in Jerusalem kiosks, a city whose Jewishness the man on the t-shirts will not recognize because it would harm the prospects for peace. And the question on their minds is how are we finally going to make peace happen.

The rational response is that peace isn’t going to happen. The two terrorist groups in their two states were set up for the sole purpose of destroying Israel. They are funded and supported by those countries that were attacking Israeli farmsteads with tanks around the time that Orwell was putting his final touches on “War is Peace, Slavery is Freedom and Ignorance is Strength.”

They are not going to stop trying to destroy Israel because it’s all they know and it’s their only reason for existence. And if that weren’t enough, they have spent generations teaching their children to hate and there is no sign whatsoever of them putting the brakes on the hate machine, which expresses more clearly than anything else that they do not intend to stop fighting now or even twenty years from now.

Not when their educational system is busy training the suicide bomber of tomorrow.

But ignorance is a particular strength of peacemakers. They don’t want reasons why it can’t happen. Nor do they want to hear that the best kind of peace with people whose religion tells them that they will go to heaven if they die while cutting your throat is the heavily armed peace of cold iron and steel.

War is their peace and ignorance is their strength.

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  • Jim Heller

    Daniel, just saw you on Michael Coren. At least I THINK it was you – he got your name wrong: "David Greenfield"? Anyways, you were sharp, clear and right on the money. Hard to tell if Michael was just pressing ironically as a devil's advocate. Hope he gets your name right and interviews you regularly.

    All the best,

    Jim

    • Daniel Greenfield

      Thanks Jim

    • defcon 4

      Where can we see the Michael Coren interview w/Mr. Greenfield? Was it for Sun TV?

      • Drakken

        That would be correct Defcon.

  • rivkah f.

    This article is 100% correct. You can't make peace with those whose objective is to kill, destroy and obliterate your country. Israel and the West cannot give in but have to wait out their enemies and would-be destroyers from within and from outside and have strong defense systems. And we shouldn'tt listen to the so-called "peace" makers or study phone "peace studies." They are liars or naive dupes who only will bring death, war and destruction. I wish we had a new Ronald Reagan. He knew what he faced and ended a really awful repressive and warmongering system. How I miss him!

  • http://www.adinakutnicki.com AdinaK

    Peace fantasists will never tire of witnessing the bloodied corpses, their "sacrifices for peace". Unfathomably, this is an Orwellian term coined by Israel's peace obsessed President Peres, yes, THAT elder statesman, a Nobel Peace Prize winner too!
    In fact, here is a realistic overview of the damage wrought – http://adinakutnicki.com/2012/07/22/when-leftist-

    On the other hand, as an unapologetic nationalist Zionist, I have my own ideas how to attain peace, and it will come through a victory so astonishing it will leave no room for them to rear their weapons against us. It can be gleaned within – http://adinakutnicki.com/2013/03/20/im-an-israeli

    "Havlaga", restraint is strength (an Orwellian IDF "ethical" doctrine developed by leftist prof, Asa Kasher), NO more!!

    Adina Kutnicki, Israel http://adinakutnicki.com/about/

    • Drakken

      Restraint is weakness, the total war concept needs to be brought to bare and then there will be peace, anything less is fruitless stupidity.

      • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

        The only thing islamic militants respect is overwhelming force.

        • patriothere

          Go sign up and fight them then coward.

          • defcon 4

            If Israel ever forms a foreign legion, I'll happily enlist to fight you islamofascist bastages.

          • patriothere

            If you went there they would attack you for not being one of the "chosen people" just like they did to Furkan Dogan and Rachel Corrie.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            My my, you think they're as bad as muslim militants?

          • patriothere

            I think they are worse than anything you make up about Muslims.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Why would a 'rented mouth' be taken seriously on anything?

  • Larry

    How many Israelis must die for peace?

    If the arabs have their way, and they've been up front about it for years, ALL OF THEM.

    The arabs are after nothing short of the total genocide of a nation.

    • defcon 4

      That's what the charter of Hamas seems to indicate they desire a destruction of Israel and a genocide of Jews.

      • patriothere

        A destruction like the destruction of the soviet union.

        • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

          No, like the destruction of a nation as in… who else have the muslims driven off into the sea?

          • patriothere

            Dr. A said in his own words that he wishes the zionist regime to go the way of the soviet union and the south african regime. No violence, no holocaust. People that say that are just inciting anti-semitism.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Dr. A says a lot of things, like the time he said there were no gays in iran.

            He had a strange look on his face, did he have some guy under the podium while he said that?

          • patriothere

            Are you even trying to have an intelligent discussion? No.

            You can insult Dr. A all you want, it only makes you look more pathetic.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Does the 'rented mouth' have handlers that pretend you're credible?

            6 minutes ago @ Breitbart.com – Protests to greet Ahma… · 1 reply · 0 points
            I'm like jesus, I'm gonna chase you money changers out of the temple and out of town and of course out of this forum. Me and ohsoquiet and a few other REAL AMERICANS who are being PAID to be here like you Israeli PR men. I'm here to chase you filth out.

          • patriothere

            Do you think it's ok to commit genocide and kill children?

            Yeppers!

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Of course not, and I oppose sharia because they do it.

        • Drakken

          You effing muslims really don't understand what is about to be unleashed upon you and your do you?

          • defcon 4

            A nuclear enlightenment is what Islam needs — along w/all the collaborators of same.

          • patriothere

            Islam is here to stay as long as Christianity and judaism are allowed to stay.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Only until they blow each other up.

  • David R

    Most seem to not realize that this is all in God's plan. Nations MUST rise against Israel and Israel MUST be abandoned by all to finally be alone and vulnerable…that's when Messiah steps in for the total destruction of His blessed people's enemies.
    Check out Zechariah 12 in the Holy Scriptures…it's so evident!
    These wild asses of the desert are born to be destroyed…even those that hide behind a Harvard degree and refuse to admit their hatred towards the true Jewish people.

  • Simcha

    One can only say "You do not make peace with your enemy, you make peace with your former enemy."

    • defcon 4

      Israel's peace treaty w/Egypt (for which they gave up the Sinai a SECOND time) doesn't seem to have made Egypt a former enemy as they still rant and rave about Jews, Zionists and Israel.

      • Drakken

        Those fanatics in Egypt will have their jihad holy war with Israel soon enough, because those bloody savages just can't help themselves, well I say give it to them in spades, it would be fun to see Israeli tanks rolling down the main blvd in Cairo and hopefully they destroy every mosque in the country in the process. Especially that islamic university, burn it to the ground as a lesson to the rest of them.

        • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

          It is the only chance the Copts have for survival.

          • patriothere

            The copts are not a real people.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            More real than the pink dancing ponies in your head.

          • patriothere

            They are not a real people.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Of course they are. You muslims avoid calling it apartheid because you're just not good at dealing with reality.

          • patriothere

            They are as real as any other religious group that tries to have an ethnicity or race.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Like the fake allah?

          • patriothere

            Your god demands the slaughter of children and genocide and you stand by it like it's a good thing.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Silly 'rented mouth'. My God doesn't demand that at all.

            But your fake allah? he demands it.

            9:5 Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

          • defcon 4

            The Coptic language used to the national language of Egypt dimbulb. Now it's illegal to even teach the Coptic language in Egypt. All courtesy of islamofascism.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            The Rosetta stone was important because of muslim rule in that land.
            And the Rosetta stone wasn't discovered under a benign muslim ruler.

          • patriothere

            But algebra was.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Excuse me, I was talking to someone that was making sense.

            Does that bother you? Oh yes, I keep forgetting you explained your agenda already.

            6 minutes ago @ Breitbart.com – Protests to greet Ahma… · 1 reply · 0 points
            I'm like jesus, I'm gonna chase you money changers out of the temple and out of town and of course out of this forum. Me and ohsoquiet and a few other REAL AMERICANS who are being PAID to be here like you Israeli PR men. I'm here to chase you filth out.

          • patriothere

            Muslim rule led to scientific enlightenment!

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            in the 8th century perhaps, if you ignore the science and engineering marvels of the Roman Empire, and the previous Copt Egyptian dynasties that build the pyramids.

          • patriothere

            All the marvels of the roman empire and the greeks was destroyed and brought into the dark ages after christianity became the state religion and the state.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Excuse me, I hate to interject some reality. But the pantheon is still there and some of the water aquaducts are still in use.

            Can you say the same about islamic camels?

        • defcon 4

          If they need any volunteers I'd be more than willing to assist in any way possible.

      • patriothere

        That's because israel is still a zionist state occupying stolen land. They have not corrected the wrong doings they have committed.

        • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

          No, it's because the beduin muslims that now claim to be palestinians want to murder everyone that won't bow to a false allah.

          • patriothere

            The Palestinians just want to be free.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            No, they want to kill a nation. And hamas will never allow them to be free. islam won't allow it.

  • WilliamJamesWard

    If I remember correctly America did not make concessions with it's enemies after the
    second World War, America demanded unconditional surrender. There was no
    unconditional surrender is Korea and it hangs as a warning to the falsity of concessions
    as concessions end nothing but continue problems in a new guise that brings about
    the original problems full force or worse. Fight to win and make rules that do not bend
    and do not ameliorate losses by enemies as this restores them and encourages
    continuation of the evil intent of the agressors, agression must be given no hope.
    Israel wants to be liked more than it wants to survive, history screams this out from
    the rooftops given to thier enemies where jihadists are firing thier weapons on Jews.
    William

    • defcon 4

      Maybe MacArthur was right about his proposed end game for the Korean War after all?

      • WilliamJamesWard

        Very true, MacArthur should have been President, we could use a man like him
        today bigtime…….Come to think of it maybe Caroline Glick is free…………………William

      • patriothere

        What? Nuke China?

        You're insane.

        • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

          What, listen to a 'rented mouth'? You're insane just like your handlers.

          • patriothere

            You're insane if you think we should nuke china.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You're insane if you think we should take you seriously.

            6 minutes ago @ Breitbart.com – Protests to greet Ahma… · 1 reply · 0 points
            I'm like jesus, I'm gonna chase you money changers out of the temple and out of town and of course out of this forum. Me and ohsoquiet and a few other REAL AMERICANS who are being PAID to be here like you Israeli PR men. I'm here to chase you filth out.

          • patriothere

            You're insane.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You as a 'rented mouth' paid hack troll would say that just to earn a check and keep your handlers happy.

  • TexRanger

    How many must die? Very easy to answer that one. 100% must die. The Muslims are winning throughout the world because Christians and Jews do not have the guts put a stop to this filth cult so the Muslims will charge right along their merry way. Just look at what we have in the White House.

  • Brujo Blanco

    Peace with so called Palestinians is pure fiction. Palestinians do not.even consider Jews to be human. History and truth is on Israel's side. When the Islamists finish with the Saturday people they will start with the Sunday people. Look to Egypt. They are running out of Jews and now they are killing the Christians.

    • defcon 4

      I've read that the last synagogue in Cairo has closed. The once prosperous and large Jewish population of Egypt has dwindled to nearly nothing because they were tired of Islamic persecution.

  • Rostislav

    Ah, if only it would be for a genuine peace! I can't say about other readers of this article, naturally, but I'd be ready to give my own life for it, even though I'm not a Jew: I think that peaceful development of Israel would be a sure blessing for all the human civilizations (and as sure curse for all the inhuman ones). Alas, Mr. Greenfield's lines and our personal impressions clearly show that there is not a shadow of such a genuine peace in the present-day situation, so to go on with marching along rosy road-maps to fantasy would be sheer madness – both for the lives, lost in vain and for the taxpayers money, dissolved into thin air. Rostislav, Saint-Petersburg, Russia.

  • Mladen Andrijasevic

    “Every so often I am asked about a solution to the Israeli-Palestinian-Arab-Muslim conflict and the interrogators are baffled when I tell them that there is no solution.”

    Well, there is a sort of a solution. My letter to the Jerusalem Post in 2009:
    http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=124325
    The case for strength

    Sir, – Both your May 22 editorial "The week that was" ("Israel needs to ensure that it does not allow itself to be depicted as the obstacle to peace") and Caroline Glick's "Netanyahu's peace plan" (same date), which defined Netanyahu's greatest challenges in office as "prevent(ing) Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons while preventing the Obama administration from blaming Israel for the absence of peace," assume that peace is possible.

    Is this assumption based on reality? Yes, but not the way the Koran defines peace, which is submission by all to Muslim rule. So we need peace defined in a way which would fit both sides.

    Does such a way exist? Yes.

    Muslims are permitted not to wage jihad if the infidel side is perceived as too strong, in which case 10 years of hudna or cease-fire is permitted, after which the conditions for jihad are reevaluated.

    The best we can therefore hope for, until these concepts are rendered obsolete by Muslims themselves, is a perpetual state of back-to-back, 10-year-long hudnas.

    Clearly, amid such a reality, Israel's strength would not be perceived as an obstacle to peace, but as the only viable solution.

  • Bert

    The first step toward peace requires all the political leaders to stop lying. Who is lying? Almost everyone: the Americans, the Arabs and most of all Jewish leaders themselves. When Jewish leaders claim that Israel is occupying Arab land and there must be a Palestinian state inside Israel they have assured there will be no peace. If Jews refuse to tell the truth in their own behalf they are lost. Jewish leaders are, with rare exception, mostly corrupt both politically and spiritually.
    Here is a dose of truth from an unexpected source.
    http://www.templemount.org/quranland.html
    WHAT THE QUR'AN REALLY SAYS
    by Shaykh Prof. Abdul Hadi Palazzi
    THE QUR'AN SAYS THAT ALLAH GAVE THE LAND OF ISRAEL TO THE JEWS
    AND WILL RESTORE THEM TO IT AT THE END OF DAYS

  • Toni_Pereira

    "How Many Israelis Must Die for Peace?" All, if some folks i might mention had their way…

  • Underzog

    A good article. Rabbi Meir Kahane, zt"l said pretty much the same points at a press conference over 30 years ago. As Rabbi Kahane and David Greenfeld pointed out that there can only be a cold peace; however, Rabbi Kahane's idea of throwing the arabs out of Israel is a good one. This will mean less murders of Jews in Israel. The population of Jews in Israel Is now about six million. It draws up an eerie parallel that must never again happen. Transfer is the only solution: http://www.masada2000.org/NoChoice.html

    • patriothere

      Yeah that's good. sharing the ideas of a leader of a terrorist organization.

      • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

        Is that what your handlers pay you to say?

        • JacksonPearson

          They're losing money if they actually pay this fool to post his anti-Semite drivel?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            They have plenty of oil to sell, I wonder when Obama will turn down the keystone pipeline so patriot here can keep posting.

          • patriothere

            Not with the sanctions they don't.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Ah, I feel so bad for them. Not.

            Not when my family had people in the region facing munitions that Iran supplied to insurgents.

          • patriothere

            You should feel bad for them. Their people can't even get medicine for their sick and elderly. Imagine if china was preventing OUR sick and elderly from getting medicine? How would WE feel. Put yourself in their shoes.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Sounds like your leaders really suck. And you can't do a thing or you'll end up like Neda.

          • patriothere

            Sounds like the rest of the world is stupid and doesn't learn from their mistakes.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Like iranians?

          • patriothere

            No, the rest of the world is marching into another war over the same bogus lies. Just like Iraq. They never learn.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Iran is march towards war because their religion demands it.

            9:5 Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

          • patriothere

            Yet Iran has not started a war in more than 400 years.

            Interesting.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Iran has been fighting a low level war for years. How many islamic jihadists so they support even besides Yemen?

          • patriothere

            They have not been doing anything but trying to leave in peace with the rest of the world.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            That's so funny, only people die due to iran waging a low level war in the region. Ask the Yemen authorities.

          • patriothere

            Your family that murdered a bunch of women and children?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            No, they're not like islamic activists in Iran.

            Ask Neda.

          • patriothere

            Yes they are. Ask Rachel Corrie. Ask david koresh.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Do they know Neda?

          • patriothere

            Do they know Furkan Dogan?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            I don't know, is he visiting with that suicide lady Rachael?

          • patriothere

            Rachel corrie was brutally murdered by jewish savages.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Savages? A rented mouth that agreed with stoning a rape victim in Somalia calls someone else a savage?

            Curious how you make words so flexible.

          • patriothere

            Yes. jewish savages. Did I stutter?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            The savages think that marrying goats is accepted universally. Let me quote you…

            3 hours ago @ KTLA-TV – Local Reaction to Obam… · 12 replies · 0 points
            jews do suicide bombs.

            stoning is a jewish thing.

            marrying goats is universal.

            child brides is all three judaic religions.

            sharia is no different than talmudic law.

          • patriothere

            I wouldn't marry a goat or have sex with a horse or a donkey but people do it.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You were just quoted as approving it.

            What's wrong, did the handlers not tell you all the stuff this profile has had on it before they assigned you to work it?

        • patriothere

          kahane was a terrorist and anybody who follows him is a terrorist.

          • defcon 4

            Do you get paid by the lie?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            I'm pretty sure, and maybe by the person he drives off.

          • patriothere

            I'm pretty sure you are stupid.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            The rented mouth pretends to be credible at anything.

            Do your handlers know you made that comment? Dummy me. Of course they do, you're getting paid to make it!

            6 minutes ago @ Breitbart.com – Protests to greet Ahma… · 1 reply · 0 points
            I'm like jesus, I'm gonna chase you money changers out of the temple and out of town and of course out of this forum. Me and ohsoquiet and a few other REAL AMERICANS who are being PAID to be here like you Israeli PR men. I'm here to chase you filth out.

      • Drakken

        Me and mine over you and yours so eff yours.

        • whateverman

          you dont want them to come back to Austria, nichts?

          • Drakken

            I was wondering what happened to you hadji? Did you bang your head on that floor a little to hard during your little mosque session? It really breaks me up hearing about it.

          • defcon 4

            I've read the Iraqi muslimes have been inviting their once large and prosperous Jewish population back (Baghdad once had a majority Jewish population). Back to experience the islamofascist persecution Iraq's Christian population if fleeing in the hundreds of thousands.
            Get stuffed Hajji.

      • defcon 4

        What terrorist organization? How many people did Kahane ever kill or have killed?
        Oh that's right none. Nice try Hajji, but stick to your goat play, it's all your good at.

        • patriothere

          Kahane was a terrorist and his organization was a terrorist organization deemed by the Israeli government and the US government.

          Wasn't Baruch Goldstein a follower of Kahane?

      • Lan Astaslem

        he had islamofascists like you pegged

        • patriothere

          islamofascist is a word made up by some dirty jew. You really show your true colors when you use that word.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You silly paid hacks. Do you think your saying anything makes it true?

            6 minutes ago @ Breitbart.com – Protests to greet Ahma… · 1 reply · 0 points
            I'm like jesus, I'm gonna chase you money changers out of the temple and out of town and of course out of this forum. Me and ohsoquiet and a few other REAL AMERICANS who are being PAID to be here like you Israeli PR men. I'm here to chase you filth out.

          • patriothere

            I know what I say is true.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Only because you are paid to say so.

            And a 'rented mouth' doesn't exactly give you much credibility.
            Saying marriages to goats is accepted universally destroyed what ever you had.

            3 hours ago @ KTLA-TV – Local Reaction to Obam… · 12 replies · 0 points
            "jews do suicide bombs.

            stoning is a jewish thing.

            marrying goats is universal…."

          • patriothere

            If people want to marry goats why should you care? Are you a big spokesperson for goats and goats rights?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            It exposes just where you're coming from.

            Probably a slum not far from Tehran.

  • Indioviejo

    Daniel, you are absolutely right, but the people who need to understand that there is no solution but a total victory against its enemies is the Jewish people. They are the main victims, but they are still in denial. Do you think there is any chance we may see during our life time Israel facing reality ? You can't have peace without a partner.

  • kasandra

    The first thing that has to go in the West is the idea that "Peace" is a policy. It's not. It's a goal of policy. What policy? Well, that is up for debate but I doubt one should seriously believe that Israel can have peace with an entity whose leader's elected term expired four years ago and who just this week issued a posthumous award to the mother of three Palestinian “martyrs,” including one who died committing a 2002 suicide attack that killed five Israelis. You can only achieve "Peace" with such a person if you give in entirely to their demands which means, in Israel's case, commit suicide.

  • kasandra

    I have to say that I find it incredible that our current administration, which considers itself to be "realists" in foreign policy, thinks that the problem is that for 65 years the right formula for "Peace" has simply escaped all who have tried to find it. It should be obvious to all, especially including those that consider themselves to be realists, that the real problem, the only obstacle to a negotiated settlement, is the utter refusal of the Arab states and P.A. (less Jordan and, until now Egypt). to recognize any right for there to be a Jewish state in the Middle East. If they accepted that simple tenant a solution could be found to all other issues in a matter of days. Never let it be forgotten that Mr. Obama's host today, Mahmoud Abbas, has previously and publicly said that he will never accept Israel as a Jewish state.

    • defcon 4

      Does the current leadership of Egypt recognize the right of Israel to exist? Really?

      • kasandra

        Well, in the Israel/Egypt peace treaty, Egypt recognized Israel and Egypt has not yet rescinded the treaty officially. So I'd say that, as a legal matter, yes, Egypt still recognizes the right of Israel to exist. I'm sure Morsi and his government would like to rescind it but they want our money and military equipment so they haven't overtly disaffirmed it.

      • patriothere

        Who cares?

        • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

          Evidently your handlers, if they paid you to comment.

  • Drakken

    There can be no peace with the arab muslims unless the jews want the peace of the grave. Anyone who thinks that there can be peace between muslim and jews is clearly delusional, so with that in mind Israel, quit screwing around with the bloody savages, anything you do they are going to hate you anyway so start off by pushing that rats nest of jihadist in Gaza into the sea and the minute one of those little savages throws a rock in the west bank, throw them into Jordan proper and let them deal with them.It will be a nice lesson to the rest of the muslim savages of what happens when you screw with them.

  • marios

    One more great Mr. Greenfeld article.
    Islam is political ideology to conquer the World. Islam is ideology of supremacy Muslims over all non-Muslims/infidel. There is no word "peace" in Arabic language. There is only word Hudna which is temporary armistice to regroup and enhence Islamists. As many above I agree that only strong Israel can be basis for cold peace. Each concession increase appetite of Islamo-Nazis and embolden those murderers. So bad that leftists everywhere including Jews leftists in Israel who are in on Islamists payroll, support Islamo-Nazis in their goal to destroy that only democracy in the ME, only one our ally there. Israel is country of hope for all Humanity who still not lose ability to think.
    Stand with Israel if you want future for your own children!

  • Aisha22

    You CANNOT negotiate with Jihadists! And Muslims are all Jihadists…..some overt…..some covert!

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

      They have surah 9 telling them they dont' have to keep treaties.

      9:1 Freedom from obligation (is proclaimed) from Allah and His messenger toward those of the idolaters with whom ye made a treaty.

      So, why bother even negotiating with them?

  • mekus milkdud

    it is strange how the jerks that cry racism at the drop of a hat are the first to call for the killing of the devil whites and Jews like obummers buddies farraconvict the panthers and his rev wright

  • Permreader

    Great article! There is additional grave and the vile side of the story: people worn out with WW2,immigration,terror, war for independense and on the other hand the cinical impudent Arab leaders who are ready to sacrifice 10 millions of Arabs and who finds Israel the best mean to unite the Arab world.
    The worn out people realy thirsted for the peace and the naive "Peace now" exists for 6o years as some monument.These feelings exists and iexploited in the country and abroad by dishhonest leftists.

  • LindaRivera

    On Obama's trip he is taking 500 million dollars to give to Hamas-controlled Gaza. It is a REWARD for their constant firing of rockets into Israeli towns and cities.

    The 500 million dollars belongs to the American people! NOT barbaric Muslim terrorists! The money is desperately needed to plant non-GMO, organic avocado, fruit and nut trees and berries in our nation's parks to feed the huge numbers of Americans who will be soon starving thanks to the DELIBERATE DESTRUCTION of the American economy.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Flawed question there paid troll.

    The question is how many will islam demand are sacrificed towards the world wide caliphate.

    • JacksonPearson

      The dope can't stop from eating himself:
      http://i55.tinypic.com/2nlxvv5.jpg

      • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

        If muslim activists were able to reason then we could sit and explain things to them like partners both working towards the goal of making the world a better place.

        I don't see that it's possible with them. It's sad, isn't it.

        • Drakken

          That is why talking to them is an exercise in futility, eliminate the savages and they will respect you.

          • patriothere

            Like the communist chinese do?

          • defcon 4

            Or the muslimes have been doing…for the past 1400 YEARS?

        • patriothere

          You can't explain anything because you are a paid hack troll with zionist talking points.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            From you that's almost funny, almost.

            6 minutes ago @ Breitbart.com – Protests to greet Ahma… · 1 reply · 0 points
            I'm like jesus, I'm gonna chase you money changers out of the temple and out of town and of course out of this forum. Me and ohsoquiet and a few other REAL AMERICANS who are being PAID to be here like you Israeli PR men. I'm here to chase you filth out.

          • patriothere

            Roger 169p · 23 hours ago
            The Almighty gives life and it's His place to take it away. You can't show those Egyptians were perfect and didn't deserve it.

            The account shows God gave them several times to do the right thing

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Yes, and when you're the Almighty you can do things on your own.

            That's different that allah of course.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Yes, and it's still a great comment.

            Too bad you don't worship the Almighty instead of the fake god that demands you do his dirty work.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Another cut and paste from the paid hack. Do you get the same pay when you don't use new propaganda but just copy and paste instead?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Yeppers, and the weak and fake allah couldn't manage to just deal with one small little rag tag bunch of refugees landing on the beach.

          • patriothere

            Yeppers, you're an evil SOB. Yeppers!

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Says the guy who advocated stoning rape victims.

            That more than anything explains who is evil, and it's not me.

            "If it's the law of the land then it is the law of the land and is right according to their laws. yes."

          • patriothere

            You're the one that said this.

            Roger 169p · 23 hours ago
            The Almighty gives life and it's His place to take it away. You can't show those Egyptians were perfect and didn't deserve it.

            The account shows God gave them several times to do the right thing

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Yes, I did. And you keep posting it. You know it's correct.

          • patriothere

            I know it's evil.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Nope, evil is the fake god having his followers use suicide bombs.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            And it's still true, even after your handlers have had you repost it hundreds of times.

          • patriothere

            It's still evil

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Like marrying goats is evil?

            3 hours ago @ KTLA-TV – Local Reaction to Obam… · 12 replies · 0 points
            "jews do suicide bombs.

            stoning is a jewish thing.

            marrying goats is universal…."

          • patriothere

            Why would marrying a goat be evil?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You're muslim, there is no explaining it to someone with an 8th century mindset.

          • patriothere

            You're cotton candy.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Still eyeing a hot goat down at the market place?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Your handlers really don't like the idea of a powerful God standing up to the followers of fake gods, do they?

          • patriothere

            I don't like the idea of people worshiping an evil god that kills children and demands genocide.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Then why don't you oppose sharia?

          • patriothere

            Sharia forbids the murder of children. The ten commandments doesn't!

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Then you're horrible muslims since they do so constantly.

          • patriothere

            The moment they do that they stop becoming Muslims and start being animals. Only animals and monsters kill children.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Of course not, then they become loyal islamic activists in accordance with surah 9, the next to last instructions from mohammed.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Yeppers!

          • patriothere

            Yeppers you're evil.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Nope, unlike you I oppose sharia.

          • patriothere

            That makes you evil. You oppose god given law.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Nope, it makes me civilized.
            Want to take another shot and defending goat marriages?

            3 hours ago @ KTLA-TV – Local Reaction to Obam… · 12 replies · 0 points
            jews do suicide bombs.

            stoning is a jewish thing.

            marrying goats is universal. …

          • patriothere

            It's not very civil to leave people destitute.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            It's not civil to hack heads off like happened to Daniel Pearl either.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            And the paid hack troll repeats a great comment yet again…

            6 minutes ago @ Breitbart.com – Protests to greet Ahma… · 1 reply · 0 points
            I'm like jesus, I'm gonna chase you money changers out of the temple and out of town and of course out of this forum. Me and ohsoquiet and a few other REAL AMERICANS who are being PAID to be here like you Israeli PR men. I'm here to chase you filth out.

          • patriothere

            It's an evil comment.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Why?

            Beause your handlers don't like it?
            That's not enough to make a comment evil. It explains why the Almighty doesn't demand evil like suicide bombs from His people. Unlike your fake allah.

          • patriothere

            Why? Because killing children is evil! Don't you understand that?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Yes, but you can say that and still be an islamic activist that considers killing them as acceptable, ask Neda.

          • patriothere

            No you don't. If you did, you would have never said this.

            Roger 169p · 23 hours ago
            The Almighty gives life and it's His place to take it away. You can't show those Egyptians were perfect and didn't deserve it.

            The account shows God gave them several times to do the right thing

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Giving God His proper role isn't evil.

            That's why I cannot approve of any false god that demands islamic militants use car bombs and suicide bombs. Can't allah fight his own battles? Or isn't he strong enough? Hmmm?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Still a big 10-4!

          • patriothere

            Still a big E-V-I-L.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Boy, your'e cranky. Did you marry the wrong goat?

            3 hours ago @ KTLA-TV – Local Reaction to Obam… · 12 replies · 0 points
            "jews do suicide bombs.

            stoning is a jewish thing.

            marrying goats is universal…."

          • patriothere

            Boy you're stupid, did you pray to that god of yours that murders women and children?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Nope I'm not muslim.

          • patriothere

            I know. That's why I was asking you if you prayed to that god of yours that murders women and children.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Nope, I'm not muslim.
            I wouldn't even consider doing the car bombs in the market places.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Yes, that's accurate and a great comment.

          • patriothere

            It's evil is what it is.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Of course not. Evil is a fake god that demands you use suicide bombs.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Still like to cut and paste my best comments?

            I thought paid hacks would have talking points from their handlers to post.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            And your allah is too weak and failed to do anything on his own. That's why you have suicide bombers, and our God decides life and death issues Himself.

          • patriothere

            And your mind is too full of water on account of you being a water-head product of hillbilly inbreeding.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Why do you think that name calling makes your fake allah any less fake and any less weak?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Yeppers.

          • patriothere

            Yeppers you're evil

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Nope, I'm not muslim.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Still the cheap paid hack that can only use pre-approved talking points?

          • Drakken

            Your an effing muzzy savage, so get bent haji.

        • defcon 4

          Well, it didn't work for the Nazis and it didn't work with Imperial Japan and we all know how that turned out. It's just too bad our government is run mostly by corrupt traitors whose oath to defend and support the Constitution is nothing more than a meaningless formality.

    • patriothere

      It's not a flawed question. It's the truth. The only solution to the Israeli-palestinian problem is democracy. Just like Dr. A Advocates.

      • defcon 4

        Yeah democracy will just erase the Jew hatred found in the following "authentic" hadiths of islam:

        Bukhari:V4B52N177
        "Allah's Apostle said, ‘You Muslims will fight the Jews till some of them hide behind stones. The stones will betray them saying, "O Abdullah (slave of Allah)! There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him."'"

        Ishaq:441
        "Allah's Apostle said, ‘The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."'"

        In Sahih Muslim: Book 041, Number 6985:
        Abu Huraira reported Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.

        • patriothere

          LOL!

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Can't do long words? Or do they not pay you for them?

      • Drakken

        The only solution to to the pali problem is their elimination, period.

        • defcon 4

          I think it might be more PC to just deport the islamofascists from Gaza and Israel proper. Maybe even compensate them for the properties left behind. Because, after all, living in any islamofascist state is a punishment that lasts a lifetime.

          • Drakken

            Never leave your enemy alive to do you harm later.

          • patriothere

            Just like the Nazis had planned for the jews. Brilliant.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Did they pay you to say that, or just hand you the talking point memo?

          • patriothere

            I'm factual.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You're a paid hack, a 'rented mouth'. You're anything your handlers tell you to pretend that moment.

  • David Basch

    Daniel Greenfield is brilliant. Peacekeeping really is war. The only problem is how many of such
    loonies are in the Israeli leadership and is Netanyahu one of them.

  • Snorbak

    To paraphrase David Horowitz; "Peace is a noble goal but an impossible dream". This statement is as true as a statement can be. The only way & I mean ONLY way true peace can be achieved between Israel & her enemies or for that matter between any nation & an enemy government that desires to conquer or destroy you, is to destroy completely the organizations & governments that are hellbent on your destruction.
    As Daniel pointed to in his article, Chamberlain declared peace through appeasement & within months all of Europe was at war with the Nazi regime. Peace was ultimately achieved through the complete & total destruction of Nazi Germany with the outcome being that Germany turned from enemy to ally.
    My point being that for Israel to have peace she must destroy her enemies & break their will to fight. Will there be a loss of life, absolutely & tragically so however, the alternative is the current ongoing punch & counter punch both politically & militarily until such time as the combined Arab/ Muslim world believe that they are strong enough to make a 4th concerted attempt to again, wipe Israel off the map!

    • WilliamJamesWard

      True and next time if the Israeli's allow the time to come the Islamists will use nuclear
      weapons, we live in the time of a real cliffhanger………………..William

      • Snorbak

        So true, only the blind & foolish cant see that a major war is coming between Israel & the Islamic world, its no longer a matter of if but when. No sane person would want war but the Arab/ Muslim world can hardly be referred to as sane. I am firmly of the opinion that a nuclear exchange in not simply possible but tragically, almost guaranteed.

        • defcon 4

          The Doomsday Clock is at 5 'til midnight, but they're too stupidly PC too realize many muslimes would happily use nukes right now given half the chance.

  • Phil

    Once again Einstein's famous words tell it all. Basically. Einstein said that the definition of stupid (or crazy) is to do the same thing over and over and expect different results. With the delusional peace at any price nitwits, the fact that Israel experiences more bloodshed everytime the Jewish state withdraws from territory or enters into an agreement with the Palestinians, means nothing. The fact that pre-6 Day war borders are indefensible because Israel is less than 15 miles wide at certasin points does not matter to these hopeless fools. The fact that giving back the territories to the Palestinians will effectively close Ben Gurion airport does not register with those who see the Palestinians as a rational and civilized people. Leaving gaza has brought thousands of rockets launched against israeli children and creation of a Hamas-led terror state. Signing Oslo with Arafat led to thousands of dead and maimed Israelis and an economic disaster. Peace is just not possible with people who love death more than life and have vowed to exterminate the world's Jews.

    • defcon 4

      The whole land for peace deal has already been shown to be the hollow shell game it really is. Israel gave back the Sinai TWICE AND made Gaza a self-governing islamofascist misery theme park yet the islamofascist acts of terror have NEVER stopped.

  • Ghostwriter

    I think President Obama is living in his own world,not the real one. The price we might pay for this will probably be enormous.

  • Mr. Polly

    The world is in danger of World War III because of the atavistic Zionist project, which only the collectively narcissistic self-obsession of Jews keeps going. Jews have never abandoned the primitive, childish delusion that the universe revolves around them, and now humanity itself is in danger because of the inability of Jews to outgrow the spoiled toddler stage of historical consciousness.

    • Phil

      Are you the illegitimate son of Himmler? Go back to your chicken farmer roots because you can't write without using psychological mumbo jumbo that is as stupid as it is disgusting.

    • defcon 4

      Your description sounds more like muslimes Ahmed. You know, the religion that has slaughtered more people on earth than any other…

    • Drakken

      You effing inbred muslim savages always blame everyone else for your own shortcomings, when you muslims start the next war, we won't be so forgiving of you and yours.

      • Mr. Polly

        I'm a Presbyterian.

        • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

          You're an anti-semetic bigot.

        • defcon 4

          I'll bet you're the only Presbyterian on the planet who bangs his head on the floor five times a day while reciting prayers that curse Jews and Christians.

        • Drakken

          Side with the muzzys, perish with them and good bloody riddance.

    • Ghostwriter

      I agree with Roger. Mr. Polly,you're an anti-semitic bigot.

    • SCREW SOCIALISM

      Polly want a NAKBA?

      You WILL get your NAKBA.

      Eurabia submits, but the US will NEVER submit to socialism or islamofascism.

    • UCSPanther

      Real nice effort, deutsch bag, but you still fail epically…

  • angella newman

    i agree, there is no need for more israeli’s to die. the trouble is that israel, along with its fanatical, radical supporters, will not accept the two state solution as outlined by the world court. so you can paint your propoganda any way you like, but israeli continues to kill, torture and rape, (i know you’ll now use the familiar, thats not true and i’m anti-semitic and self hating label) but all the arguements israel makes is founded on israel’s world view, and not the international court, or united nations or the multitude of reports by amnesty and other human rights organisations views.
    so what can one do. anyone who says something that you don’t like is branded a thief, liar, hater, crazy, etc. if i were to make an arguement, using facts that i selectively pick as the foundation of my arguement, then yes, i will be always right. i find it sad that so many intelligent, liberal and well meaning people, buy into this one sided view, painting the other side as the bottleneck.
    sad sad sad.