How Syria Killed the “Arab Spring”

Daniel Greenfield, a Shillman Journalism Fellow at the Freedom Center, is a New York writer focusing on radical Islam. He is completing a book on the international challenges America faces in the 21st century.


assadThe best evidence of the unlamented death of the Arab Spring (2010-2013) was the nervous response in Washington D.C. to the Syrian crossing of the Red Line.

The Red Line had been set up so that Assad would eventually run afoul of it, whether by using chemical weapons or by taking the blame for chemical weapons use by the rebels; as the UN alleges happened. Once the Red Line was crossed, the Liberators of Libya would use the opportunity to enforce the will of the people; at least those people with Qatari RPGs and Turkish machine guns.

But instead of carving out a No Fly Zone and then telling the American people about it three days later, Obama blinked. No sooner did Assad supposedly cross the Red Line than Obama aides rushed out to explain that paying attention to the colorful line was misreading what Obama had really meant to say.

“How can we attack another country unless it’s in self-defense,” one official asked, with no sense of irony. “If he drops sarin on his own people, what’s that got to do with us?”

Two years ago, Obama had declared that he was the defender of Benghazi, protecting it against a massacre that was never going to happen. And once Benghazi was liberated to be under Al Qaeda and Muslim Brotherhood rule, the man who had sent in the air force to protect Benghazi Islamist militias against Gaddafi, couldn’t be bothered to send in the planes to protect his diplomats against the militias.

The Arab Spring may have died on that September 11. Or it may have died when Obama’s aides rushed to retreat across the Red Line. But one thing is certain; it’s deader than Monty Python’s blue parrot.

Obama looked into the Syrian abyss and pulled back. Maybe the timing of the war would have been a distraction from amnesty and gun control, but more likely the responsibility-to-protectors just couldn’t sell anyone on their happy ending.

There is not one single place where a major Arab Spring transformation has led to a happy ending.

Egypt is a political, social and economic disaster. Obama had been counting on Islamists transforming Egypt into another Turkey on a slow and sensible schedule. But Morsi had a little too much in common with Obama. Like Obama, he couldn’t wait a decade to crush his opponents and enact repressive policies that would fracture the country. He could barely wait a month.

Egypt isn’t unique. Tunisia, the birthplace of the Arab Spring, is just as shattered, and one Islamist government has already gone down to be replaced by another. The same tensions between liberals and Islamists are playing out in Morocco. Meanwhile countries like Bahrain or Yemen in the Saudi sphere of influence either suppressed domestic protests or engaged in ritual transfers of power.

The Arab Spring was truly tested in Libya. NATO went in and left behind a country overrun by terrorists whose instability endangers its diplomats, the entire region and the world. Most of the advocates of intervention in Libya understand that the same thing will happen in Syria, but on a much larger scale.

Assad may be the prisoner of Damascus, but so is everyone else. The Syrian Civil War has stalemated all the powers leaving them stuck in a holding pattern. Russia is stuck helping Assad, even though it wishes that a transition could be arranged at the negotiating table, and the NATO powers are stuck trying to arrange some sort of Syrian rebel alliance, even though they know it will just be a gang of militias using Sharia courts and RPGs to fight over bakeries and oil wells.

UK Prime Minister David Cameron, sounding more desperate than ever, has argued that the only way to keep the Al Nusra Front from winning is to arm the moderate opposition. But Cameron knows that there is no moderate opposition. The only options are to choose from a palette of Islamist militias and hope that works out better than it did in Libya or to let Russia control a transition that will put one of its own allies into power. And for the moment, it looks as if Obama and Cameron are going along with that plan.

Whatever happens next, the Syrian Civil War isn’t going anywhere.

Western politicians and pundits completely misread the Arab Spring as a series of popular uprisings. In fact they were austerity protests hijacked by political activists backed by Western democracy establishment NGOs and Islamist plotters backed by Qatar and its Al Jazeera propaganda network.

The Arab Spring was a campaign by Sunni Islamist countries to overthrow the governments of secular countries. With most of those governments overthrown, with two notable exceptions, it has moved into its next phase as a religious war between Sunni Islamists and the Shiite alliance of Syria, Iraq and Iran.

Only an idiot would mistake Hezbollah, Hamas and Al Qaeda shooting it out in the ruins of Syrian cities for any kind of popular indigenous uprising. There are still calls to arm the moderate opposition, but how can there be a moderate opposition when Turkey and Qatar, the two big players of the war, are not moderate except in the imaginations of New York Times columnists?

And how then could the Arab Spring be moderate and democratic when its backers and planners were neither moderate nor democratic?

The dividing lines in the Middle East were never between democracies and dictatorships. They are the sectarian lines that divide Sunni from Shiite and the ethnic nationalisms that divide the old Persian and Turkish empires from the ragged bands of Arab conquerors.

The Arab Spring was not new. It was very old. It was as old as the Islamic conquests that transformed more open Arab cultures into Islamist tyrannies and then repeated the process in historical cycles. The pattern continued with the clashes between Islamists and Arabs giving way to fighting between Sunni and Shiite. And that fighting must inevitably give way to the next phase of Islamist infighting.

This isn’t a new phase of history that will transform the Middle East into some ethnic copy of Europe. It is the same old history of the region repeating itself again and again like footprints in the sand.

The Arab Spring is dead. It was dead a thousand years ago. It isn’t a new idea, but a very old war whose adherents are cursed to battle each other for eternity over the same power struggles.

The desert air breathes out mirages and generations of Westerners have found themselves caught in astonishing vistas of lost kingdoms and flourishing oases, but the harsh realities of war have a way of dissolving illusions.

The Western nations that bought the myth of the Arab Spring from the wily Qatari shopkeeper thought that they were purchasing democracy and stability, when they were actually buying a piece of an old civil war. Now they have a choice between fighting one more war in the hopes of saving an Arab Spring that never existed… or stepping back from the abyss.

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  • Michael Copeland

    As Gates of Vienna website has it, “We are in a new phase of a very old war”.

  • http://www.adinakutnicki.com AdinaK

    The Arab Nightmare, aka "Arab Spring", was never meant to usher in a western style democracy, but it was designed (and there was nothing spontaneous about it) to bring forth the rise of the Muslim Brotherhood Mafia. This is a fact, and its origins lied in his orders to Mubarak – GO NOW – but the cornerstone was set in Cairo during his "outreach" to the Muslim world – http://adinakutnicki.com/2012/08/13/coming-full-c

    But to get from the above to the Syrian fire, one must internalize how R2P was utilized to further usher in the Muslim Mafia, but this time within Syria's morass – http://adinakutnicki.com/2012/11/11/benghazigate-

    Full circle.

    Adina Kutnicki, Israel http://adinakutnicki.com/about/

  • Joeb

    Read this from 2005, Der Spiegel:
    http://www.spiegel.de/international/the-future-of

    Pay attention to the 'phases' described later in the article, and remember the interviews with the Al Qaeda terrorists were done in 2004.

    • Alvaro

      Very interesting. However I think they don't know what they are asking for: "Hussein writes that in the terrorists' eyes, because the rest of the world will be so beaten down by the "one-and-a-half billion Muslims," the caliphate will undoubtedly succeed."

      Please, please declare a war against the rest of the world.

      • http://twitter.com/SpencerSqareArt @SpencerSqareArt

        One thing is for sure, they are not all VOLUNTARY muslims!

        • Defcon 4

          So what? Who cares?

  • Joeb

    I have been saying since the start of the war in Syria that Assad is going precisely nowhere unless the Russians decide he is. Now, wake me up if that happens. Business as usual, otherwise…

  • Texas Patriot

    The so-called Arab Spring is not dead, it's alive and well in Syria with the Al Qaida backed rebels trying to topple yet another secular dictator in the region. But instead of Arab Spring, it should probably be called the Islamist Spring. Ah, but where is Mel Brooks when we need him.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K08akOt2kuo

  • http://twitter.com/karita_feliz @karita_feliz

    I know this might be out of topic, but what happened to Algeria? is it still the only Secular Muslim country of Mid East and North Africa?

    • Defcon 4

      LOL, "secular muslim country", thanks for the laugh.

  • Smote

    What I'm going to say will be hard for some to stomach. I'm sure I will get bashed for this, but I feel I must say this. Obama is a criminal, who should be arrested and charged with high treason.

    What I have to say is this: Maybe the Yanks haven't gone into Syria because maybe, just maybe, someone somewhere decided that since the Syrians have harboured terrorists for decades that, well, the Syrians deserve this. Ronald Reagan wanted to blow Syria off the map!!! I don't know, but maybe this is what they call Karma. Maybe Syria is getting a bit of payback for its sponsorship of terrorism (sorry, I mean Islam). I feel for the Christian communities of Syria who are caught up in this. They are in my thoughts constantly. God help them! As for those 'Muslims', I say let 'em kill themselves. Have at it! Who'd miss their miserable mouths?

    • Steve

      I have an online friend in Yahoo Messenger, Khalil, he's hardly ever on nowadays. He lives in a relatively secure area near the Krac des chevaliers. All I'm saying is all people are just people. 90% of all Syrians are some kind of muslims so your prayers are needed for them also since they have no chance without some friends.

      • Defcon 4

        I don't care how many muslims die, or even if they all do. Because given half the chance that's what they do to anyone and everyone non muslime.

    • EarlyBird

      "…I'm sure I will get bashed for this, but I feel I must say this. Obama is a criminal, who should be arrested and charged with high treason."

      Bashed?! You'll get a prize for idiotic rhetoric like that on this right wing hate site.

      "What I have to say is this: Maybe the Yanks haven't gone into Syria because maybe, just maybe, someone somewhere decided that since the Syrians have harboured terrorists for decades that, well, the Syrians deserve this."

      No, the US hasn't "gone into Syria" i.e., commit to another massive land war in the Arab world, because there is no compelling American interest in doing so. Maybe, just maybe, the US has figured out that acting as the world's policeman is the way to destroy America. Finally!

      There are plenty of Arab nations, and Israelis, which have a much more compelling interest in ensuring their neighborhood doesnt' go up in flames. I wish them the best in mauling the monster in their midst.

  • EthanP

    While I have no doubt that cowardice has much to do with the lack of action by the US, EU, and Arab League, I stated two years ago that the Rebels would get no help. Any intervention by any party to aid the rebels would be condemned as aiding the "Zionist Entity". Also, Syria lack expotable oil reserves. Exportable oil was the real reason for the Libyan intervention. It was never about saving lives. Else there would have been a 'real' intervention in Darfur long ago.

    • EarlyBird

      The only "cowardice" in that scenario is that of the Arab League's. They (and Israel) are the ones who have a primary compelling interest in ensuring that Syria doesnt' become a failed state, not the US or the EU.

      Your point about oil being the only reason nations intervene in humanitarian calamities is cynical foolishness. The US missions to Somalia under Bush I, and the Bosnia under Clinton, had nothing to do with oil, as just two examples.

      • Defcon 4

        So an islamofascist state isn't a failed state? Because Syria has been an islamofascist state for decades.

  • Adrian Rainbow

    What "Arab spring"? There was only ever a "taqiyya sunrise"!

    • Defcon 4

      Erlyturd's Taqiyya Sunrise:

      1. 5 ounces freshly squeezed camel urine, chilled
      2. 2 ounces shaved ice
      3. 1 ounce sparkling water
      4. three jiggers of cherry juice

      after putting the shaved ice into a tumbler add camel urine, then sparkling water and give a vigorous
      swizzle, pour in cherry juice and stir once. Sip and enjoy!

  • ObamaYoMoma

    What Arab Spring?

    There never was a so-called Arab Spring, and the toppling of dictators in the Middle East never had anything to do with the establishment of Western style democracy or freedom and liberty, as those things are abominations in the Islamic world. Indeed, the so-called Arab Spring is a direct result of Western and especially US incompetence and the rise of Islam again. Unfortunately, like unhinged moonbats, both Republican and Dhimmicrat elected politicians alike, see Islam as a "Religion of Peace" and most Muslims, which are all either violent or non-violent stealth and deceptive jihadists, as moderate Muslims. Yeah right!

    Moreover, just like the Reagan administration did during the Iraq – Iran War, the USA should aid both sides of the conflict, i.e., the Sunni Muslim Brotherhood side and the Alawite/Shia side, since Muslims killing Muslims is a good thing for the West and a bad thing for Islam. Indeed, the more Muslims that kill each other, the better for us. Thus, the USA should be encouraging the use of chemical weapons and other weapons of mass destruction in Syria by both sides.

    As a matter of fact, that is what GWB should have done way back in Afghanistan, aided the Northern Alliance and the Taliban in their respective jihads against each other to ensure their respective jihads lasted as long as possible, instead of occupying Afghanistan like a useful idiot fool based on pure and utter fantasies that inevitably turned into one of the biggest strategic blunders ever in American history.

  • logdon

    Oddly enough Obama's intransigence is backed by ME expert and no Obama fan, Daniel Pipes.

    His let 'em get on with it does not follow the Obama philosophy of 'leading from behind' however.

    It is more, let them kill each other and as it's patently clear that this is green on green, both bad as each other why argue?

    And more importantly, whilst indulging in their classic Islamic homicidal hate fests against each other, they're not attacking Israel.

    In fact following Israel's rocket attacks on Hezbollah's imported weaponry, all Assad has done is a spot of futile sabre rattling.

    He's obviously distracted and engaged against his own people and rather than the second front of Israel he is rendered impotent.

    As for the unfortunate plight of Christians consider this. If Obama did intervene it's obvious that AQ and the Salafists would take over, a la Libya. What then of the fate of these people?

    Let's face it, the ME has descended into the nightmare those howwible dictators did such a good job in preventing. And that includes Iraq where Iranian controlled spheres of Shia influence are taking over.

    It would appear, contrary to the decent, but deluded Bush's theories of a democratic domino, the precise reverse is occurring. Seemingly they don't want freedom or authentic democracy because that's a western concept and that would never do.

    So in a Loony Toon episode of sawing the branch they're sitting on we are witnessing, say in Egypt, a demand for the defenestration of a dictatorial Mubarak only for it to be replaced by the far more authoritarian Brotherhood, a Salafist we want Islam now contingent and the snake of al-Qaida watching and awaiting their turn.

    All of this kicked off by Obama's Cairo catastrophe of a speech.

    Quite honestly, the less this overgrown organiser has to do with World affairs the better. He is even dumber than the king of dumb Carter.

    And that certainly is saying something!

    • ObamaYoMoma

      Oddly enough Obama's intransigence is backed by ME expert and no Obama fan, Daniel Pipes.

      Daniel Pipes is the moonbat who first coined the term "moderate Muslim" and of course the world has been searching for them unsuccessfully ever since. Someone needs to tell him that the submission to the will of Allah, which is sharia, that all Muslims must make, is unconditional. Hence, all Muslims are jihadists, either of the violent variety (overall not very many) or of the non-violent stealth and deceptive variety (the astronomically largest majority of them), or otherwise they are blasphemous apostates that per the texts and tenets of Islam must be executed. Hence, there are no so-called "moderate Muslims" as they would necessarily be blasphemers and apostates from Islam, and in which case they must be executed.

      • logdon

        On the contrary, I'd say Bush coined that term together with 'religion of peace'.

        Times are moving fast and as there is a heavily Islamic area about seven miles away from me I have seen a transformation.

        Once reasonably westernised, now full of abeyas, chadors, niqabs huge beards, men in robes and all the other two fingers to Britain.

        Technically you're right and Recep Erdogan, himself has said there is no moderate Islam.

        So what's your answer? Deport the lot? Erect prison camps?

        And there's no point in asking the with us or against us question because they'll lie.

        We have a problem, entirely of our own making.

        Here's one cause
        http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2324112/I

        • ObamaYoMoma

          On the contrary, I'd say Bush coined that term together with 'religion of peace'.

          Actually it was Pipes long before Bush ever was elected President.

          So what's your answer? Deport the lot? Erect prison camps?

          The only way to stop jihad is to ban and reverse mass Muslim immigration ASAP as zero Muslims in America would equal zero jihad. Followed by the rest of the world isolating the Islamic world until it withers away and dies on the vine. Otherwise jihad will torture the world relentlessly forever.

          Here's one cause <a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2324112/I” target=”_blank”>http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2324112/I

          What can I say? Leftism is "Suicidalism." Diversity, multiculturalism, social justice, etc are just recipes for internal suicide. It's what ultimately led to the destruction of the Roman Empire and its what's leading to the destruction of the free world today. If we don't learn from the past, we are doomed to repeat its failures. I believe in united we stand and divided we fall. It's common sense!

          • Guest

            EVERY last muslime must be dropped into the Saudi desert. Let them sort themselves out there. Amen.

          • logdon

            Are you sure about that? Bush was elected quite some time before the post 9/11 upheaval.

            And if you are right, if you read my depiction of the rapid change in Muslim neighbourhoods, there was a moderate or more accurately a lapsed attitude amongst Muslims, therefore Pipes at the time was correct.

            I know my Islam and we could go on all day arguing the semantics. Angels on a pinhead stuff is meat and sustenance within that tortuous faith.

            The rapid speed of change via Saudi infiltration and funding of mosques has resulted in a return to Wahabbi values missing from the South Asian diaspora pre 9/11. That's the upshot.

            Islam is not a monolith, its a hotch potch where even the al-Azhar ulema is regarded as no better than an Egyptian peasant. That is also pure Islam but do you think that they apply that one?

            Let's face it, Islam is right now what they say it is. A chameleon where for instance, although those scriptures may admonish killing the fellow faithful, as we all know it's what they do, all the while hollering praises to god via their allahu akhbars.

            A bit of contradiction there, I'm sure you'll agree?

            Mohammed designed it that way. An illiterate nomad orphan, he knew all the arts of self preservation and his opportunistic contradictions and lies are known by anyone with the slightest knowledge of Islam.

            Now that the lid is blown here, immigration is THE political hot potato and Nigel Farage's UKIP party which espouses a more or less zero policy is bounding up the polls.

            Meanwhile back at your side of the Atlantic Obama has initiated his own policy seemingly to flood America with Muslims.

            They'll typically congregate within self imposed areas and the stuff David Woods endured in Dearborn where both the Mayor and Police Chief sided with shariah imposing thugs will grow like topsy.

            As it happened Woods is made of stern stuff and backed by ace lawyer, David Yerushalmi finally got his apology and an undisclosed amount of compensation.

            He is an exception. Most don't have his gonads or connections.

            And look at how hard it is when faced with dhimmi politicians and lawyers on pushing the anti-foreign law statutes through.

            We are all in this together, that is apart from a substantial number who think we aren't.

            Whilst on December Seven, 1941 Pearl Harbor was the clincher, 9/11, a similar declaration of war is drifting from consciousness. Even Boston was described by Biden as perpetrated by 'knock off jihadis' which in light of events doesn't offer too much about his perception.

            Lets face it, the struggle is a twofold effort. It's not just Islam and Biden is not alone, he's got the alphabet soup stations rooting for his stance. Even Rino McCain castigated his fellow GOP member Michelle Bachman for having the temerity to question Huma Abedin, a proven MB acolyte, on her loyalty.

            I could go on but I hope you catch the drift. I am no islamophile but we need to think before charging in.

          • ObamaYoMoma

            Are you sure about that? Bush was elected quite some time before the post 9/11 upheaval.

            And Pipes has been a scholar of Islam for his entire professional career. Not to mention that he is no spring chicken either.

            And if you are right, if you read my depiction of the rapid change in Muslim neighbourhoods, there was a moderate or more accurately a lapsed attitude amongst Muslims, therefore Pipes at the time was correct.

            For decades much of Islam was in a dormant state because it was too weak and feeble to pursue jihad, but thanks to an infusion of trillions of oil dollars, that era today is long gone. Nevertheless, Pipes still stands by his "moderate Muslim" idiocy.

            The rapid speed of change via Saudi infiltration and funding of mosques has resulted in a return to Wahabbi values missing from the South Asian diaspora pre 9/11. That's the upshot.

            I also don't discount the enormous harm wrought by the Saudis and Gulf States Emirates in facilitating the stealth global jihad and engineering the rejuvenation of Islam, especially with respect to duping our glorious politicians, and I also agree that Islam is not a monolith, but nevertheless the Koran is, and when it comes to jihad in the cause of Allah for the establishment of Islam, all the various divisions of Islam are universally in agreement. That is jihad is the most important pillar of Islam and is a holy obligation incumbent upon all mainstream orthodox Muslims.

            As a matter of fact, can you point to just one Islamic country anywhere in the world that doesn't treat resident non-Muslim infidels, i.e., dhimmis, as second-class citizens? Other than Israel, can you point to just one non-Islamic country anywhere in the world that borders an Islamic country that isn't under assault by jihad? Furthermore, can you point to just one place anywhere in the world where Muslim immigrants actually assimilated, integrated, and matriculated into contributing and productive members of their host infidel societies, instead of forming Muslim enclaves that eventually morph into Muslim no-go zones ruled by sharia as tiny Islamic statelets within the larger host infidel states?

            In fact, you don't have to be an Islamic scholar like Daniel Pipes to understand what Islam actually is. It's obvious as all you have to do is open up your eyes and open up your mind. Indeed, like Communism, Islam is a very rabid form of totalitarianism that intends to take over the world via the imposition of sharia.

            In the Cold War, the West didn't open up it borders for mass Communist immigration in the name of diversity, multiculturalism, and social justice because that would have been incredibly suicidal, yet that is exactly what we are doing today. In Europe it involves mostly Muslims and in the USA it involves open borders, illegal Hispanic immigrants, and mass Muslim immigration all in the name of diversity, multiculturalism, and social justice. It's Leftism run amuck!

          • Mike

            Every Muslim is a potential terrorist: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2u9BNpLThqA&fe

          • ObamaYoMoma

            Thanks!

          • logdon

            Andrew Bostom asks: What in the world happened to Daniel Pipes?
            By Shoebat Foundation on May 14, 2013 in Blog, General

            Daniel Pipes is widely regarded as an invaluable asset when it comes to the need to understand Islam; he’s been at it for years. In fact, if any non-Muslim were to understand the religion that is also a political movement, Pipes should.

            However, as Andrew Bostom points out in his latest article, it appears that Pipes may have moderated his views a bit, as evidenced by a Pipes piece in which he goes after Geert Wilders, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, and Wafa Sultan for… identifying Islam – and not “Islamism” as the source of modern problems.

            Read why Bostom asks, “‘What Went Wrong’ with Daniel Pipes”?

            The “Essentialism” Devil and Daniel Pipes.

            Here is a link to the Pipes article Bostom refers to.

          • ObamaYoMoma

            Well now he has gone full circle and fully morphed himself into a full pledged moonbat today. I wonder how big his checks coming from the Saudis are? His thoroughly unhinged scholarship also ought to make him a hot item in mainstream media circles as well.

          • logdon

            Which is why I copied and pasted it.

            This was what I based my previous stance on

            'Daniel Pipes is widely regarded as an invaluable asset when it comes to the need to understand Islam; he’s been at it for years. In fact, if any non-Muslim were to understand the religion that is also a political movement, Pipes should'.

            However this has changed my mind…

            'However, as Andrew Bostom points out in his latest article, it appears that Pipes may have moderated his views a bit, as evidenced by a Pipes piece in which he goes after Geert Wilders, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, and Wafa Sultan for… identifying Islam – and not “Islamism” as the source of modern problems'.

            I have Wilders, Marked for Death and Hirsi Ali's Infidel, both important in their depiction of Islam and even more importantly, exposing the lengths the Dutch Government would go to in suppressing free speech.

            Interesting also that our useless and proven expenses cheat Jacquie Smith, whilst Home Secretary would ban Wilders yet her previous HS allowed the hate speaking anti-semite Qaradawi in.

            He actually shared a podium with far left London mayor, Ken Livingstone which shows how unhinged these people really are.

          • Defcon 4

            He's gone the way of the Little Green Footballs blogger. He's been compromised.

      • Defcon 4

        Pipes' "moderate muslime" meme is a good propaganda tool for islamofascists.

    • objectivefactsmatter

      "Oddly enough Obama's intransigence is backed by ME expert and no Obama fan, Daniel Pipes. "

      It's not that he's doing the wrong thing in this case, it's his poor leadership. "Red line?" What is that all about?

      It would be trivial if it was an isolated goof. It's not isolated. He's a pure politician with a radical agenda. His agenda in Syria is to do what the Sunni's want without overplaying his hand. We are already intervening, he just can't do it more openly. And then there are his statements used to cover his actual policy decisions.

      We probably do want to stay out of Syria until the last moment and then maybe rescue a weakened Assad. That won't happen. If anything, our support for the Sunni caliphate will become more open.

      Loyal Americans want the Sunni and Shia factions fighting each other until they are neutralized. We want them all to grow weaker fighting towards a stalemate.

  • fanlad

    This is where it gets hard for the American public to understand or even believe, this administration orchestrated the so called "Arab Spring" through covert and overt means, in concert with Saudi Arabia. That is, the toppling of middle eastern governments, even the ones that were allies to the U.S., to erect Muslim brotherhood regimes. Thus, knowingly or unknowingly furthering the attempts to revive a historic Muslim Caliphate.
    Benghazi, was an operation that was set up for this exact purpose. To funnel weapons, and resources from over thrown Libya thru Turkey to Syria. However, this covert operation went bad, real bad, leaving four Americans dead, including an American ambassador. Thus the lies, deception, and cover up on Benghazi. The failed foreign policy of this administration, i.e. The Obama doctrine.
    We will be close to World War III, if this administration continues to push its failed foreign policy efforts in Syria .

  • fanlad

    This failed foreign policy is putting Israel in harms way.

    • EarlyBird

      What "failed foreign policy?" You mean the "failure" of the Obama administration to control every population in the Arab Middle East? Or it's "failure" not to help Mubarak crush a popular revolt in the streets of Cairo in front of international cameras, and help him double down on the oppression of Egyptians? That "failure"?

      Or is it the failure of managing the unmanageable outcomes produced by hundreds of years of Arab Muslim dysfuction topped by 60+ years of US and other Western meddling that was a "failure"?

      Are all realities in the world the product of some omnipotent US, and therefore any unpleasant realities the result of "American foreign policy failure"?

      • fanlad

        The failure is putting the balance of power in the hands of Islamists radicals and terrorist that go up against Israel and other western concerns, every step of the way. The middle East thanks to BO is now a tender box with a fuse. If you were in Israels situation, when would you strike, now or later?
        Thanks to state toppling ordered by BO and Hillary and carried out by covert operations and other means, we now have a Middle East on fire. This does not make Israel or the world any safer. Yes, a failed foreign policy, to put it mildly, at the feet of BO and Hillary. Nuff said.

      • Defcon 4

        Yes, for Erlyturd the "democratically" elected islamo-nazis in Egypt and N. Africa are the very essence of freedom, democracy and liberty. And after all, who cares if hundreds of thousands or millions of kufrs are slaughtered in the process? It's the islamo-nazi people's will!

      • objectivefactsmatter

        "What "failed foreign policy?" You mean the "failure" of the Obama administration to control every population in the Arab Middle East? Or it's "failure" not to help Mubarak crush a popular revolt in the streets of Cairo in front of international cameras, and help him double down on the oppression of Egyptians? That "failure"?"

        The FAILURE of "inclusiveness" with mortal enemies.

  • flowerknife_us

    Arab Spring=Christian Fall. The Administration is completely unconcerned. While proving itself more corrupt and criminal with each passing day.

    Fundamental change in action.

  • Al Lennon

    A 2 year stalemate, 60k lives lost (or probably more by now). It will end eventually but what a cost.
    ____________
    Al Lennon

    • Parenthetical Phrase

      Actually, it's over 70,000 dead. More by the time I finish typing this. It will end when there's either 1) no more explosives, ammo, knives, bats, sticks or hands (hand to hand combat); or 2) the ground opens up and swallows them all.

  • Arius

    Sorry, but the Syrian government didn't use chemical weapons, that line was crossed by the so-called Syrian opposition controlled by the Muslim Brotherhood and Salafis backed by the USA.

  • Empress Trudy

    Now that Russia has sent in a naval force of a dozen ships, sent supersonic anti ship cruise missiles there and asserted they can, have, and will continue to blanket the area with state of the art anti aircraft systems there is nothing anyone can do even if they wanted to. Obama dawdled hoping for someone else to make his decisions for him and they did. It shouldn’t shock anyone if we shortly see Russian Marines coming ashore, or perhaps simply running cover for Iran to land IRGC troops. Iran was getting stretched too thin with Hezbollah who proved to be not much of a match for anyone w/o their 40,000 missiles aimed at the Jews and seemingly w/o the hundreds or thousands of anti armor missiles they used against the IDF in Lebanon. When they have to fight someone as savage and sub human as they are, they lose badly. And so Iran needed to create a space to maneuver larger deployments into place. With Russia’s help they got it. As of today the casualty estimates in Syria are anywhere from 90-120,000. The problem for the rest of us is not that that number will quickly double or triple, but that this will end the war that much sooner leaving Assad in power as a bona fide unapologetic Russian and Iranian client state. Syria has now become the biggest strategic threat to Israel. Bigger than Iran, Hezbollah and Hamas and Egypt.

  • MR.ISLAMOPHOBIC

    Arab spring death toll = 9000 suuni and shiite muslims dead at the hands of each other, conversions one dead body at a time. . . .