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		<title>By: Keef Wivaneff</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Keef Wivaneff]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 06:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Does the phrase &quot;pedal to the metal&quot; ring a bell?
Why buy a PERFORMANCE CAR if you intend to drive like a granny?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does the phrase &#8220;pedal to the metal&#8221; ring a bell?<br />
Why buy a PERFORMANCE CAR if you intend to drive like a granny?</p>
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		<title>By: awhellno</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 04:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As much as I don&#039;t care about Tesla, that&#039;s not a valid point... cars would never operate at max HP continuously, not even on the autobahn.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As much as I don&#8217;t care about Tesla, that&#8217;s not a valid point&#8230; cars would never operate at max HP continuously, not even on the autobahn.</p>
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		<title>By: Keef Wivaneff</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Keef Wivaneff]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Nov 2013 08:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Seems that I can RESERVE a Tesla https://www.teslamotors.com/en_AU/own#/model-s

Delivery....real soon

Oh dear....I&#039;m afraid I smell a rat!

Model S configurations are distinguished by a combination of range and horsepower. The entry-level version comes with a 60 kWh battery rated for 208 miles of range and a motor rated at 302 horsepower; it starts at $62,400. An additional $10,000 steps you up to an 85 kWh battery with 265 miles of rated range and 362 hp. Another $10,000 on top of that gets you the &quot;P85&quot; model, with the same battery and range but featuring an updated drive inverter that bumps the power up to 416 hp. Finally, $6,500 on top of that buys the &quot;P85+&quot; performance package, which adds a great deal of suspension tuning and some upgraded tires.

M&#039;kay..... 303 Horsepower....awesome!

85Kw-H = 303 Hp for about TEN MINUTES!!

What&#039;s that I smell????
(a clue....it is not roses...but it helps them to grow)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems that I can RESERVE a Tesla <a href="https://www.teslamotors.com/en_AU/own#/model-s" rel="nofollow">https://www.teslamotors.com/en_AU/own#/model-s</a></p>
<p>Delivery&#8230;.real soon</p>
<p>Oh dear&#8230;.I&#8217;m afraid I smell a rat!</p>
<p>Model S configurations are distinguished by a combination of range and horsepower. The entry-level version comes with a 60 kWh battery rated for 208 miles of range and a motor rated at 302 horsepower; it starts at $62,400. An additional $10,000 steps you up to an 85 kWh battery with 265 miles of rated range and 362 hp. Another $10,000 on top of that gets you the &#8220;P85&#8243; model, with the same battery and range but featuring an updated drive inverter that bumps the power up to 416 hp. Finally, $6,500 on top of that buys the &#8220;P85+&#8221; performance package, which adds a great deal of suspension tuning and some upgraded tires.</p>
<p>M&#8217;kay&#8230;.. 303 Horsepower&#8230;.awesome!</p>
<p>85Kw-H = 303 Hp for about TEN MINUTES!!</p>
<p>What&#8217;s that I smell????<br />
(a clue&#8230;.it is not roses&#8230;but it helps them to grow)</p>
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		<title>By: tom Gambeski</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tom Gambeski]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Aug 2013 19:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Refreshing to read the truth about another Obama green company ,soon to be,failure.
There is money being made,primarily by a handful of crony capitalists,individual investors should beware.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Refreshing to read the truth about another Obama green company ,soon to be,failure.<br />
There is money being made,primarily by a handful of crony capitalists,individual investors should beware.</p>
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		<title>By: Myong</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Myong]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jun 2013 01:41:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Fernandes</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fernandes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 May 2013 12:50:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#8217;s funny how you do math.What about the sales tax of the cars? In many states this will cancel out the tax rebate.What about the corporate tax Tesla pays?What about the 3000+ employees that pay tax and spend their earnings?What about the many companies Tesla pays to manufacture parts and the tax those companies and employees pay?Maybe you need to learn a bit about how our economy works before writing ignorant articles such as this. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&rsquo;s funny how you do math.What about the sales tax of the cars? In many states this will cancel out the tax rebate.What about the corporate tax Tesla pays?What about the 3000+ employees that pay tax and spend their earnings?What about the many companies Tesla pays to manufacture parts and the tax those companies and employees pay?Maybe you need to learn a bit about how our economy works before writing ignorant articles such as this. </p>
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		<title>By: mark</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 May 2013 12:49:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don&#8217;t worry poor little frontpagek, those buying this car (and likeminded individuals) are the same ones paying the taxes used for the subsidies. All the mouth-breathers complaining about the tax dollars being spent on clean energy initiatives aren&#8217;t really that burdened with high taxes.These incentives aren&#8217;t Tesla Motors incentives, they&#8217;re available to anyone selling cars. It&#8217;s not their fault they built a better car.Thankfully those who share your opinion will be gone shortly or to busy finding the correct size for your incontinence diaper to bother the rest of us. But hey, way to sound like you&#8217;re not an oil company shill! Good job! ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&rsquo;t worry poor little frontpagek, those buying this car (and likeminded individuals) are the same ones paying the taxes used for the subsidies. All the mouth-breathers complaining about the tax dollars being spent on clean energy initiatives aren&rsquo;t really that burdened with high taxes.These incentives aren&rsquo;t Tesla Motors incentives, they&rsquo;re available to anyone selling cars. It&rsquo;s not their fault they built a better car.Thankfully those who share your opinion will be gone shortly or to busy finding the correct size for your incontinence diaper to bother the rest of us. But hey, way to sound like you&rsquo;re not an oil company shill! Good job! </p>
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		<title>By: Roy Dzigli</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roy Dzigli]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 May 2013 17:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[An interesting little fact is that the highway systems (the paved roads anyway) were initially funded by the car companies. They were called seed roads. And probably as is sort of the Tesla paradigm the first govenment funded Highways were built through car company coercion of corrupted government officials. but thats just a guess. 
My thing is that I loath Al Gore. He just gives me the creeps. Like something that evolved  out of primordial dumpster juice. There&#039;s always something sketchy about any kind of polotician and the ones that succeed are the sketchiest of all. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An interesting little fact is that the highway systems (the paved roads anyway) were initially funded by the car companies. They were called seed roads. And probably as is sort of the Tesla paradigm the first govenment funded Highways were built through car company coercion of corrupted government officials. but thats just a guess.<br />
My thing is that I loath Al Gore. He just gives me the creeps. Like something that evolved  out of primordial dumpster juice. There&#039;s always something sketchy about any kind of polotician and the ones that succeed are the sketchiest of all. </p>
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		<title>By: Roy Dzigli</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roy Dzigli]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 May 2013 17:38:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the info. Never stop inputing data. Whats the chain of supply for solar panels and their impact on the environment? So Tesla&#039;s could be coal powered or solar or hydro or nuclear? 
At this juncture they seem like a rich kids toy funded by taxpayers but that&#039;s only one viewpoint. 
They&#039;re sexy cars anyway. I live in Silicon Valley and count at least 3 a day on 280. Who designed them? They look like De Tomasto&#039;s or other Italian designed cars. Have you seen the Jagiar Type F? Whew! Best looking thing ever.(Excluding certain super models) Hell my Great grandmother owned a Detroit Electric in 1915. I saw a Tesla at a filling station in the De Young Museum parking garage so that one was  a grid parasite anyway. We taxpayers subsidizing rich mens toys is &quot;Alice in Wonderland&quot; Not the tech. Regards,Roy ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the info. Never stop inputing data. Whats the chain of supply for solar panels and their impact on the environment? So Tesla&#039;s could be coal powered or solar or hydro or nuclear?<br />
At this juncture they seem like a rich kids toy funded by taxpayers but that&#039;s only one viewpoint.<br />
They&#039;re sexy cars anyway. I live in Silicon Valley and count at least 3 a day on 280. Who designed them? They look like De Tomasto&#039;s or other Italian designed cars. Have you seen the Jagiar Type F? Whew! Best looking thing ever.(Excluding certain super models) Hell my Great grandmother owned a Detroit Electric in 1915. I saw a Tesla at a filling station in the De Young Museum parking garage so that one was  a grid parasite anyway. We taxpayers subsidizing rich mens toys is &quot;Alice in Wonderland&quot; Not the tech. Regards,Roy </p>
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		<title>By: NotATeslaEmploy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NotATeslaEmploy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 May 2013 08:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sounds like someone is trying to make a sale. 
I guess disclosing that you are somehow affiliated with a company that you&#039;re promoting here, would be against that company&#039;s policy - what with them also lying about the way they make profits. 
 
The market will decide if your car is &#039;the future&#039;, or another pipe dream. So far, Tesla is cheating the market, through the government, and no amount of mental gymnastics on your part is going to turn that around. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like someone is trying to make a sale.<br />
I guess disclosing that you are somehow affiliated with a company that you&#039;re promoting here, would be against that company&#039;s policy &#8211; what with them also lying about the way they make profits. </p>
<p>The market will decide if your car is &#039;the future&#039;, or another pipe dream. So far, Tesla is cheating the market, through the government, and no amount of mental gymnastics on your part is going to turn that around. </p>
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		<title>By: bix2246</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 May 2013 02:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Scumbags....all of them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scumbags&#8230;.all of them.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2013 22:11:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Fossil fuels are finite.&quot; 
In the very, very long term, yes. 
In the next few centuries, no, they&#039;re effectively infinite. Proven reserves are larger now than at any time in recorded history. Like all Lefties, you don&#039;t understand how resources, scarcity, human ingenuity, and technology interact with each other. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Fossil fuels are finite.&quot;<br />
In the very, very long term, yes.<br />
In the next few centuries, no, they&#039;re effectively infinite. Proven reserves are larger now than at any time in recorded history. Like all Lefties, you don&#039;t understand how resources, scarcity, human ingenuity, and technology interact with each other. </p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2013 22:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You don&#039;t understand the word &quot;literally&quot; very well, do you? ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You don&#039;t understand the word &quot;literally&quot; very well, do you? </p>
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		<title>By: F.K. Juliano</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[F.K. Juliano]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2013 21:59:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Typical leftist hysteria in lieu of an actual response, since none is possible. I&#039;m surprised you didn&#039;t call criticism of Tesla&#039;s shenanigans &quot;blasphemy&quot;. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Typical leftist hysteria in lieu of an actual response, since none is possible. I&#039;m surprised you didn&#039;t call criticism of Tesla&#039;s shenanigans &quot;blasphemy&quot;. </p>
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		<title>By: Weapon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Weapon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2013 20:35:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;So these Tesla cars are Coal powered? &quot; 
 
It depends where you live. Coal accounts for around 37% of the grid by US average in all states combined. But again it depends where you live. Example, 10 states have 90% of their power from renewable energy.(renewable energy as of 2012 is around 12% of the grid for all states combined). 
 
the Tesla superchargers are powered by solar. 
 
&quot;Where exactly does the electricity come from when they plug into a wall socket? Hydro power?&quot; 
 
Again, depends where you charge and your circumstances. If you lease a solar panel on your roof, it can be fully solar but if you don&#039;t then it depends on your local grid. 
 
&quot;What exactly are they thinking? The Tesla goes what? 100 miles on a charge? &quot; 
 
Depends on conditions like all things but the 85kwh model s has epa rating of 265 miles. (maybe your confusing the Tesla for some other EV?) 
 
&quot;This is Alice in Wonderland stuff. &quot; 
 
Actually it is more of advancement in science. Tesla&#039;s technology is years ahead of the other EVs as they spent 10 years designing an EV from the ground up. The biggest reason why most EVs are junk are because most manufacturers just took a car, stuck a battery in it and called it a day. It is hard to really explain, the only way to explain it is you need to test drive one. Everything you have known about EVs or cars in general will change. Even people who hated EVs have a complete change of mind after driving a Tesla Model S. 
 
Simply put, forget all positive and negative things you ever heard  about it. It is not even about the environment. Just test drive one, that is the only way to understand. 
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;So these Tesla cars are Coal powered? &quot; </p>
<p>It depends where you live. Coal accounts for around 37% of the grid by US average in all states combined. But again it depends where you live. Example, 10 states have 90% of their power from renewable energy.(renewable energy as of 2012 is around 12% of the grid for all states combined). </p>
<p>the Tesla superchargers are powered by solar. </p>
<p>&quot;Where exactly does the electricity come from when they plug into a wall socket? Hydro power?&quot; </p>
<p>Again, depends where you charge and your circumstances. If you lease a solar panel on your roof, it can be fully solar but if you don&#039;t then it depends on your local grid. </p>
<p>&quot;What exactly are they thinking? The Tesla goes what? 100 miles on a charge? &quot; </p>
<p>Depends on conditions like all things but the 85kwh model s has epa rating of 265 miles. (maybe your confusing the Tesla for some other EV?) </p>
<p>&quot;This is Alice in Wonderland stuff. &quot; </p>
<p>Actually it is more of advancement in science. Tesla&#039;s technology is years ahead of the other EVs as they spent 10 years designing an EV from the ground up. The biggest reason why most EVs are junk are because most manufacturers just took a car, stuck a battery in it and called it a day. It is hard to really explain, the only way to explain it is you need to test drive one. Everything you have known about EVs or cars in general will change. Even people who hated EVs have a complete change of mind after driving a Tesla Model S. </p>
<p>Simply put, forget all positive and negative things you ever heard  about it. It is not even about the environment. Just test drive one, that is the only way to understand. </p>
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		<title>By: Weapon</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2013 20:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is very interesting that you feel violated if your ICE car is taken away yet have no problem taking away EVs from others. 
 
How about letting people who want EVs have their EVs and you can keep your ICE car? Why must there be so much hate on these things when clearly they can co-exist? Just like when cars came out in the first place, did people take away other people&#039;s horses? People still ride horses to this day. 
 
Even if 99% of the cars on the road will be EVs in the future, you can still ride your ICE car. Nobody is going to take it away from you. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is very interesting that you feel violated if your ICE car is taken away yet have no problem taking away EVs from others. </p>
<p>How about letting people who want EVs have their EVs and you can keep your ICE car? Why must there be so much hate on these things when clearly they can co-exist? Just like when cars came out in the first place, did people take away other people&#039;s horses? People still ride horses to this day. </p>
<p>Even if 99% of the cars on the road will be EVs in the future, you can still ride your ICE car. Nobody is going to take it away from you. </p>
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		<title>By: Roy Dzigli</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roy Dzigli]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2013 20:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So these Tesla cars are Coal powered? Where exactly does the electricity come from when they plug into a wall socket? Hydro power? Environmentalists want to get rid of damns. Nuclear? Here again.......... goes without saying thats no good for environazi&#039;s. Solar? I don&#039;t think so. 
What exactly are they thinking? The Tesla goes what? 100 miles on a charge? 
This is Alice in Wonderland stuff.  
This actually happened: A dog crapped on my lawn and the owner didn&#039;t pick it up so I put a little sign on it that said &quot;Free&quot;. The little pile disapeared. I don&#039;t know what that has to do with Tesla other than both stories being about crap. 
Best regards,Roy ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So these Tesla cars are Coal powered? Where exactly does the electricity come from when they plug into a wall socket? Hydro power? Environmentalists want to get rid of damns. Nuclear? Here again&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;. goes without saying thats no good for environazi&#039;s. Solar? I don&#039;t think so.<br />
What exactly are they thinking? The Tesla goes what? 100 miles on a charge?<br />
This is Alice in Wonderland stuff.<br />
This actually happened: A dog crapped on my lawn and the owner didn&#039;t pick it up so I put a little sign on it that said &quot;Free&quot;. The little pile disapeared. I don&#039;t know what that has to do with Tesla other than both stories being about crap.<br />
Best regards,Roy </p>
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		<title>By: Edward Cline</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Edward Cline]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2013 20:05:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, Musk is &quot;real,&quot; and proves that even innovators can be racketeers. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, Musk is &quot;real,&quot; and proves that even innovators can be racketeers. </p>
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		<title>By: Weapon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Weapon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2013 19:37:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To answer your question. Based on 2012 numbers for the entire USA: 
 
37% - coal 
32% - NG 
19% - nuclear 
12% - renewable energy 
 
Based on data for last 4 years, coal is going down, NG and renewable energy is going up. 
 
Who said there is anything wrong with exploiting current technologies? There is nothing wrong with exploiting current technologies but that doesn&#039;t mean we should not push for newer and better technologies. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To answer your question. Based on 2012 numbers for the entire USA: </p>
<p>37% &#8211; coal<br />
32% &#8211; NG<br />
19% &#8211; nuclear<br />
12% &#8211; renewable energy </p>
<p>Based on data for last 4 years, coal is going down, NG and renewable energy is going up. </p>
<p>Who said there is anything wrong with exploiting current technologies? There is nothing wrong with exploiting current technologies but that doesn&#039;t mean we should not push for newer and better technologies. </p>
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		<title>By: Doggwood</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Doggwood]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2013 19:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The subsidies for EV&#039;s were written by a Republican senator from Tennessee, approved by a Republican congress and signed by George W. Bush to lower US trade deficits by replacing foreign oil with US sourced electricity. Replacing foreign oil with US made electricity will ultimately lower tax burdens beyond the payroll, sales and corporate taxes paid, plus jobs created, by EV makers.&quot;  
  
Just because something was done by Republicans doesn&#039;t mean it&#039;s good or should be rubber-stamped by &quot;conservatives&quot;. Indeed, that&#039;s the reason the budget went to hell under GWB; the Republican water-carriers didn&#039;t raise objections because the offense was being perpetrated by the home team. Seems that most people in Washington lose sight of any goal beyond jockeying for power, and to hell with the country.  
  
I certainly applaud the general goals of securing American energy independence and utilizing renewable resources. This serves to bolster ecological and economic and national security needs; something for everyone! But the devil is in the details. The subsidies tend to mask wastage. If we pay many thousands of dollars of public money to save one thousand dollars of personal oil consumption, we&#039;ve taken more resources out of the system than we&#039;ve put into it. The resources that went into making those batteries must be weighed against the savings, but we hide that. The politicians just trumpet one end of the equation and we all feel good, but we haven&#039;t solved any fundamental problems and are still broke. Got to look at the big picture!  
  
Bottom line is the Tesla is a luxury car for rich people, and we&#039;re not going to improve the ecology or save the nation by pouring public money into it. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;The subsidies for EV&#039;s were written by a Republican senator from Tennessee, approved by a Republican congress and signed by George W. Bush to lower US trade deficits by replacing foreign oil with US sourced electricity. Replacing foreign oil with US made electricity will ultimately lower tax burdens beyond the payroll, sales and corporate taxes paid, plus jobs created, by EV makers.&quot;  </p>
<p>Just because something was done by Republicans doesn&#039;t mean it&#039;s good or should be rubber-stamped by &quot;conservatives&quot;. Indeed, that&#039;s the reason the budget went to hell under GWB; the Republican water-carriers didn&#039;t raise objections because the offense was being perpetrated by the home team. Seems that most people in Washington lose sight of any goal beyond jockeying for power, and to hell with the country.  </p>
<p>I certainly applaud the general goals of securing American energy independence and utilizing renewable resources. This serves to bolster ecological and economic and national security needs; something for everyone! But the devil is in the details. The subsidies tend to mask wastage. If we pay many thousands of dollars of public money to save one thousand dollars of personal oil consumption, we&#039;ve taken more resources out of the system than we&#039;ve put into it. The resources that went into making those batteries must be weighed against the savings, but we hide that. The politicians just trumpet one end of the equation and we all feel good, but we haven&#039;t solved any fundamental problems and are still broke. Got to look at the big picture!  </p>
<p>Bottom line is the Tesla is a luxury car for rich people, and we&#039;re not going to improve the ecology or save the nation by pouring public money into it. </p>
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