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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;If Scientific Models Can’t Project the Last 15 Years, What Does That Mean for their Projections of the Next 100?&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: tagalog</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jun 2013 19:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For my part, I was being ironic.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For my part, I was being ironic.</p>
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		<title>By: anor277</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[anor277]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jun 2013 18:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is it?  I was differentiating here between green plants and chemosynthetic bacteria.  But this is a question of biology.  



At the moment, more than 31,000 million tonnes of carbon dioxide are being pumped into the atmosphere, where it will reside for at least half a millenium.  A greater quantity will be pumped into the atmosphere next year.  Many here think this is immaterial.  The presence of so much carbon dioxide in the atmosphere has already had an ecological consequence.  There is likely more to follow, and this will affect all of us.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it?  I was differentiating here between green plants and chemosynthetic bacteria.  But this is a question of biology.  </p>
<p>At the moment, more than 31,000 million tonnes of carbon dioxide are being pumped into the atmosphere, where it will reside for at least half a millenium.  A greater quantity will be pumped into the atmosphere next year.  Many here think this is immaterial.  The presence of so much carbon dioxide in the atmosphere has already had an ecological consequence.  There is likely more to follow, and this will affect all of us.</p>
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		<title>By: tagalog</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tagalog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jun 2013 16:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, that difference between &quot;most&quot; and &quot;all&quot; is the critical one, eh?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, that difference between &#8220;most&#8221; and &#8220;all&#8221; is the critical one, eh?</p>
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		<title>By: tagalog</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/if-scientific-models-cant-project-the-last-15-years-what-does-that-mean-for-their-projections-of-the-next-100/comment-page-1/#comment-5238295</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tagalog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jun 2013 16:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No, inaccurate in the sense of not reflecting reality in ANY accurate way.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, inaccurate in the sense of not reflecting reality in ANY accurate way.</p>
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		<title>By: anor277</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[anor277]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jun 2013 16:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I thought the question was rhetorical.  Water cannot be declared a pollutant because it&#039;s the basis of all life (also we&#039;d have to concrete over the oceans to prevent its evaporation).  On the other hand, carbon dioxide is also the basis of most life when converted by photosynthesis.  Nevertheless, increased concentrations of carbon dioxide likely has serious environmental consequences.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought the question was rhetorical.  Water cannot be declared a pollutant because it&#8217;s the basis of all life (also we&#8217;d have to concrete over the oceans to prevent its evaporation).  On the other hand, carbon dioxide is also the basis of most life when converted by photosynthesis.  Nevertheless, increased concentrations of carbon dioxide likely has serious environmental consequences.</p>
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		<title>By: tagalog</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/if-scientific-models-cant-project-the-last-15-years-what-does-that-mean-for-their-projections-of-the-next-100/comment-page-1/#comment-5238208</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tagalog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jun 2013 12:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, but at least he didn&#039;t accuse you of being either a liar or illiterate.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, but at least he didn&#8217;t accuse you of being either a liar or illiterate.</p>
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		<title>By: tagalog</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/if-scientific-models-cant-project-the-last-15-years-what-does-that-mean-for-their-projections-of-the-next-100/comment-page-1/#comment-5238207</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tagalog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jun 2013 12:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you know, why are you asking me?  Besides I asked MY question first.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you know, why are you asking me?  Besides I asked MY question first.</p>
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		<title>By: tagalog</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/if-scientific-models-cant-project-the-last-15-years-what-does-that-mean-for-their-projections-of-the-next-100/comment-page-1/#comment-5238206</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tagalog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jun 2013 12:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gravity remains a consensus view that is still, to this day, questioned despite its obvious utility.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gravity remains a consensus view that is still, to this day, questioned despite its obvious utility.</p>
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		<title>By: tagalog</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/if-scientific-models-cant-project-the-last-15-years-what-does-that-mean-for-their-projections-of-the-next-100/comment-page-1/#comment-5238205</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tagalog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jun 2013 12:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I choose illiterate!  Dibs!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I choose illiterate!  Dibs!</p>
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		<title>By: anor277</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/if-scientific-models-cant-project-the-last-15-years-what-does-that-mean-for-their-projections-of-the-next-100/comment-page-1/#comment-5238155</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[anor277]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jun 2013 06:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you&#039;re telling me that measurement is imprecise, I&#039;d be inclined to agree with you.  The best data indicate substantial global warming up to the present.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;re telling me that measurement is imprecise, I&#8217;d be inclined to agree with you.  The best data indicate substantial global warming up to the present.</p>
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		<title>By: anor277</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[anor277]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jun 2013 06:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tell me, what is the difference in volatility between carbon dioxide and water? The boiling/sub. points are about 179 degrees different.  What does the difference in volatility suggest with repsect to persistence in the atmosphere?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tell me, what is the difference in volatility between carbon dioxide and water? The boiling/sub. points are about 179 degrees different.  What does the difference in volatility suggest with repsect to persistence in the atmosphere?</p>
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		<title>By: Cold_Drake_80</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/if-scientific-models-cant-project-the-last-15-years-what-does-that-mean-for-their-projections-of-the-next-100/comment-page-1/#comment-5238097</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cold_Drake_80]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jun 2013 00:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Inaccurate in that their predictions were to optimistic. Things like arctic sea ice melt are happening faster than they thought. I wish they were off in the other direction. It would be nice to not have to deal with climate change on this scale. Reality has other plans and whether you believe it or not means nothing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Inaccurate in that their predictions were to optimistic. Things like arctic sea ice melt are happening faster than they thought. I wish they were off in the other direction. It would be nice to not have to deal with climate change on this scale. Reality has other plans and whether you believe it or not means nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: Cold_Drake_80</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/if-scientific-models-cant-project-the-last-15-years-what-does-that-mean-for-their-projections-of-the-next-100/comment-page-1/#comment-5238094</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cold_Drake_80]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jun 2013 00:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re a liar or you&#039;re illiterate. If you read my previous comments then ziggy&#039;s you&#039;ll see that what I&#039;ve posted is true. I know you won&#039;t because, as a good FPMer, you&#039;ll never sully that mind of yours with real thinking.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re a liar or you&#8217;re illiterate. If you read my previous comments then ziggy&#8217;s you&#8217;ll see that what I&#8217;ve posted is true. I know you won&#8217;t because, as a good FPMer, you&#8217;ll never sully that mind of yours with real thinking.</p>
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		<title>By: tagalog</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/if-scientific-models-cant-project-the-last-15-years-what-does-that-mean-for-their-projections-of-the-next-100/comment-page-1/#comment-5238042</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tagalog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jun 2013 20:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Warmer temps in the United States, or for that matter in the Northern Hemisphere, are NOT, repeat NOT, global warming.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Warmer temps in the United States, or for that matter in the Northern Hemisphere, are NOT, repeat NOT, global warming.</p>
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		<title>By: tagalog</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/if-scientific-models-cant-project-the-last-15-years-what-does-that-mean-for-their-projections-of-the-next-100/comment-page-1/#comment-5238040</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tagalog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jun 2013 20:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Carbon dioxide is known to be a greenhouse gas, and so is water vapor which is far more prevalent in the atmosphere.  Shall we declare water vapor a pollutant?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carbon dioxide is known to be a greenhouse gas, and so is water vapor which is far more prevalent in the atmosphere.  Shall we declare water vapor a pollutant?</p>
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		<title>By: tagalog</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/if-scientific-models-cant-project-the-last-15-years-what-does-that-mean-for-their-projections-of-the-next-100/comment-page-1/#comment-5238031</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tagalog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jun 2013 19:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, and the predictions of every computer model discussed by the IPCC reports (I believe that there are six or seven sets of computer models) are seen, by the unfolding of climatic events in the real world, to be inaccurate.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, and the predictions of every computer model discussed by the IPCC reports (I believe that there are six or seven sets of computer models) are seen, by the unfolding of climatic events in the real world, to be inaccurate.</p>
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		<title>By: tagalog</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tagalog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jun 2013 19:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, yes, they&#039;re all copying you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, yes, they&#8217;re all copying you.</p>
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		<title>By: tagalog</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tagalog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jun 2013 19:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Scientists can and do reach consensuses.  In real science, a consensus forms a target for constant questioning, hypothesizing, experimentation, and amendment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scientists can and do reach consensuses.  In real science, a consensus forms a target for constant questioning, hypothesizing, experimentation, and amendment.</p>
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		<title>By: tagalog</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tagalog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jun 2013 19:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, and the IPCC folks and their allies have proposed a margin of error.  It now seems likely that that proposed margin of error is about to be crossed by real events, and that the predictions of a variety of ill climatic effects are about to reveal themselves as not reflective of what is really going to happen.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, and the IPCC folks and their allies have proposed a margin of error.  It now seems likely that that proposed margin of error is about to be crossed by real events, and that the predictions of a variety of ill climatic effects are about to reveal themselves as not reflective of what is really going to happen.</p>
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		<title>By: tagalog</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tagalog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jun 2013 19:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why should I have to look up the answers myself, when the burden of proof of a proposition, such as the earth is on the verge of human-caused climatic catastrophe if we don&#039;t submit ourselves to global governmental action, is on the proponents of that claim?

For what it&#039;s worth, what I was able to glean on the net about the so-called &quot;Gish Gallop&quot; persuades me that I&#039;m not ANY kind of practitioner of it, good or otherwise.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why should I have to look up the answers myself, when the burden of proof of a proposition, such as the earth is on the verge of human-caused climatic catastrophe if we don&#8217;t submit ourselves to global governmental action, is on the proponents of that claim?</p>
<p>For what it&#8217;s worth, what I was able to glean on the net about the so-called &#8220;Gish Gallop&#8221; persuades me that I&#8217;m not ANY kind of practitioner of it, good or otherwise.</p>
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